Board 8 > Politics Containment Topic 129: Harvey Wallbuilder

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Jakyl25
08/25/17 2:55:43 PM
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Stay safe Texas
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scarletspeed7
08/25/17 2:57:08 PM
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How can we stay safe with Zeke suspended 6 games?

Anyways, I heard some reports that a lot of people are reconsidering travelling to safety for the storm; all of the buses have left for New Braunfels from some smaller coast cities, too. Sort of a disaster waiting to happen.
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SgtSphynx
08/25/17 3:00:41 PM
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I saw a tweet earlier related to the Texas hurricane. Let me see if I can find it again
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Eddv
08/25/17 3:01:15 PM
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Well hopefully nothing too bad happens - I literally dont trust this President to effectively respond to a disaster so the only thing we can hope for is no disaster to begin with even more than usual.
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Regaro
08/25/17 3:05:57 PM
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Eddv posted...
Well hopefully nothing too bad happens - I literally dont trust this President to effectively respond to a disaster so the only thing we can hope for is no disaster to begin with even more than usual.

Yep. I don't trust Abbott to respond effectively either, though I think he'll at least try to.
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UltiXX
08/25/17 3:07:06 PM
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The liberals on twitter happy about this hitting Texas are as pukey as conservatives happy that girl got run over. I hate both sides of this crap.

http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_5995afe4e4b056a2b0ef038c?ncid=engmodushpmg00000003

Welp, you had a good run Tony. But you served, so obviously that makes you racist now.
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MenuWars
08/25/17 3:08:04 PM
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News at 11. People are shit.
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SgtSphynx
08/25/17 3:09:17 PM
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Found it!

https://twitter.com/GammaCounter/status/901078566246416385
"I will never forget that my responsibility is to keep you-the American people-safe." DT, February 3, 2017.
http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/aboutstaff.shtml


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DIFGK3sXsAEbywC.jpg
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MoogleKupo141
08/25/17 3:11:34 PM
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UltiXX posted...
The liberals on twitter happy about this hitting Texas are as pukey as conservatives happy that girl got run over. I hate both sides of this crap.

http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_5995afe4e4b056a2b0ef038c?ncid=engmodushpmg00000003

Welp, you had a good run Tony. But you served, so obviously that makes you racist now.


that's not what the article says

To hear that these veterans claim they were ‘radicalized’ in Iraq and Afghanistan during their tours of duty is one of the more unfortunate things to come to light regarding the side-effects of serving your country.

it's about specific veterans who came back racister
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Jakyl25
08/25/17 3:12:16 PM
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Hey, Vacant has been a very respectable WWE Champion before.
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Jakyl25
08/25/17 3:12:53 PM
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MoogleKupo141 posted...
that's not what the article says


Then why respond?
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Peace___Frog
08/25/17 3:13:03 PM
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Like i said before, he hasn't appointed people to necessary positions. But he's going to try to blame democrats for preventing him from doing so. Consider it called.
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LordoftheMorons
08/25/17 3:14:48 PM
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The Kasich unity ticket seems much more likely to be a spoiler that keeps the Dem from winning than one with a realistic shot of winning (especially if Trump maintains strong disapproval approaching 50%)
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MoogleKupo141
08/25/17 3:17:48 PM
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Jakyl25 posted...
MoogleKupo141 posted...
that's not what the article says


Then why respond?


public service letting everyone know no one actually wrote an article saying all military people are racist
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Eddv
08/25/17 3:20:52 PM
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LordoftheMorons posted...
The Kasich unity ticket seems much more likely to be a spoiler that keeps the Dem from winning than one with a realistic shot of winning (especially if Trump maintains strong disapproval approaching 50%)


I see it as a failsafe.

If the Democratic primary is a shit show again or if Hillary is the nominee I can see it.
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Not_an_Owl
08/25/17 3:23:20 PM
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Eddv posted...
Well hopefully nothing too bad happens - I literally dont trust this President to effectively respond to a disaster so the only thing we can hope for is no disaster to begin with even more than usual.

I wouldn't trust the Trump administration to organize a drinking party in a brewery.
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The Mana Sword
08/25/17 3:47:43 PM
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LordoftheMorons
08/25/17 3:55:42 PM
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Big alt-right rallies are planned in SF and Berkeley this weekend

Really hoping nothing bad happens
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scarletspeed7
08/25/17 3:58:56 PM
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As Trump boarded Marine One for his 3rd trip to Camp David since taking office, he offered these following words of comfort to the citizens of Texas:

"Good luck."
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LordoftheMorons
08/25/17 3:59:44 PM
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"Glhf!"
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scarletspeed7
08/25/17 4:02:30 PM
#21:


Hags!
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Peace___Frog
08/25/17 4:11:25 PM
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I know how much we hate anecdotal junk here, but I found it interesting that a white girl i went to hs with who now lives outside of Houston, and was fervently pro trump all throughout the campaign and mostly silent the last few months except for the sporadic meme, has been vocally bashing trump with regards to how he's preparing for Harvey.
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LordoftheMorons
08/25/17 4:12:44 PM
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Peace___Frog posted...
I know how much we hate anecdotal junk here, but I found it interesting that a white girl i went to hs with who now lives outside of Houston, and was fervently pro trump all throughout the campaign and mostly silent the last few months except for the sporadic meme, has been vocally bashing trump with regards to how he's preparing for Harvey.

This is how his base will eventually turn on him: by being personally affected by his gross incompetence.
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Peace___Frog
08/25/17 4:22:54 PM
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The Mana Sword posted...
don't worry texas, easy d's got your back

https://twitter.com/TreyYingst/status/901160024696901632

Here it is on video.


https://twitter.com/ABC/status/901166628976689157
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HaRRicH
08/25/17 4:25:23 PM
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It's like when immigration laws being enforced meant communities were losing who they believed to be "one of the good ones."

It happens with every party because everybody has their own perception of what a President will do, but Donald's base will be hit particularly hard.
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SupremeZero
08/25/17 4:31:19 PM
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Peace___Frog posted...
The Mana Sword posted...
don't worry texas, easy d's got your back

https://twitter.com/TreyYingst/status/901160024696901632

Here it is on video.


https://twitter.com/ABC/status/901166628976689157

Who's the kid he's dragging along?
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Panthera
08/25/17 4:44:44 PM
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Peace___Frog posted...
I know how much we hate anecdotal junk here, but I found it interesting that a white girl i went to hs with who now lives outside of Houston, and was fervently pro trump all throughout the campaign and mostly silent the last few months except for the sporadic meme, has been vocally bashing trump with regards to how he's preparing for Harvey.


I think it's pretty much par for the course that everyone likes their politician of choice until they themselves are negatively affected by their policies, at which point that politician is clearly awful
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HaRRicH
08/25/17 5:13:55 PM
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Anecdotes are great, please share them! Just don't extrapolate them to mean all people without broader information to back it up.
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Jakyl25
08/25/17 5:15:02 PM
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LordoftheMorons posted...
Big alt-right rallies are planned in SF and Berkeley this weekend

Really hoping nothing bad happens


Who organized these ones? Or do you know?
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LordoftheMorons
08/25/17 5:20:15 PM
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Jakyl25 posted...
LordoftheMorons posted...
Big alt-right rallies are planned in SF and Berkeley this weekend

Really hoping nothing bad happens


Who organized these ones? Or do you know?

http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-bay-area-protests-police-tactics-20170825-story.html

They claim to be the less extreme alt-righters:

Organizers for both rallies have said that the white supremacists and neo-Nazis who surfaced in Charlottesville are not welcome at their events. Joey Gibson, the founder of the Patriot Prayer group leading the San Francisco event, has demanded that white nationalist figures such as Richard Spencer and Nathan Damigo stay away.

Last week, Gibson told The Times he was concerned that some extreme or racist figures might try to co-opt his rally, a fear shared by experts who track hate groups. He has repeatedly denied the assertion that his event is a “white supremacist” demonstration and criticized politicians who branded it as such.


But the article goes on to say that some big name nutjobs have indicated that they're coming:

Complicating matters is the planned attendance of some controversial figures from the far-right who have been linked to white supremacist gatherings and other controversial rallies.

Augustus Invictus, described by the Anti-Defamation League as a Florida-based white supremacist, has also said on Twitter that he plans to speak at the Berkeley rally. Invictus filmed himself among a mob of torch-carrying demonstrators chanting “blood and soil,” a known Nazi refrain, in Charlottesville.

Kyle Chapman, a Daly City resident who gained infamy and the nickname “Based Stickman” after he was filmed battling anti-facists with a shield and staff in Berkeley earlier this year, plans to speak at both rallies. Chapman, who has declined a request for comment from The Times and suggested reporters “can all go to hell” on Twitter recently, is currently facing felony weapons charges in Alameda County.

Jack Posobiec, who hawked the false “Pizzagate” conspiracy that led to a shooting in Washington, D.C., and has been accused of hurling anti-Muslim slurs at former Hillary Clinton aide Huma Abedin, will also attend Sunday’s rally in Berkeley, according to Joanna Mendelson, the senior investigative researcher with the Anti-Defamation League’s Center On Extremism.

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Jakyl25
08/25/17 5:23:50 PM
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Yeah, Invictus and Chapman were both featured at the Charlottesville rally...
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Jakyl25
08/25/17 5:28:24 PM
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LOL the article says the one in Berkeley is calling itself an "anti-Marxist rally." They couldn't be more openly baiting Antifa to come start shit and look bad.

Gotta look into the Patriot group running the SF one.
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SgtSphynx
08/25/17 5:35:13 PM
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I saw something about a bunch of 4-chan trolls setting up fake rallies to try and wear down people.
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Jakyl25
08/25/17 5:36:09 PM
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Okay, seems like they started sketchy but as of late have cleaned their act up

From SPLC:

At his most recent rally, in Seattle on Aug. 13, Gibson openly denounced white supremacism and neo-Nazis. In subsequent interviews, he has taken lengths to explain that he now works to actively exclude them. There were no visible signs of white-nationalist members at the Seattle rally.


So that's good
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Jakyl25
08/25/17 5:41:50 PM
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SgtSphynx posted...
I saw something about a bunch of 4-chan trolls setting up fake rallies to try and wear down people.


For what purpose?

Ha ha we made the world so oversaturated with hate that people stopped caring!
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ChaosTonyV4
08/25/17 5:43:19 PM
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Peace___Frog posted...
The Mana Sword posted...
don't worry texas, easy d's got your back

https://twitter.com/TreyYingst/status/901160024696901632

Here it is on video.


https://twitter.com/ABC/status/901166628976689157


Can you imagine the "Patriots" response to Obama if he said this?
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Jakyl25
08/25/17 5:43:35 PM
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Kenri
08/25/17 5:46:27 PM
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What's even the point of being alt-right if you denounce white supremacism and nazism?

I guess you can still hate women, but...

Jakyl25 posted...
SgtSphynx posted...
I saw something about a bunch of 4-chan trolls setting up fake rallies to try and wear down people.


For what purpose?

Ha ha we made the world so oversaturated with hate that people stopped caring!

I mean, yeah, you pretty much nailed it. Except replace "hate" with "Nazism" or something so we all understand the gravity of it.
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LordoftheMorons
08/25/17 5:46:37 PM
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I don't know if being denied a permit necessarily means it won't happen!
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Jakyl25
08/25/17 5:47:03 PM
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ChaosTonyV4 posted...
Peace___Frog posted...
The Mana Sword posted...
don't worry texas, easy d's got your back

https://twitter.com/TreyYingst/status/901160024696901632

Here it is on video.


https://twitter.com/ABC/status/901166628976689157


Can you imagine the "Patriots" response to Obama if he said this?


Barack Obama doesn't care about white people
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Not_an_Owl
08/25/17 5:49:39 PM
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Kenri posted...
What's even the point of being alt-right if you denounce white supremacism and nazism?

I guess you can still hate women, but...

Hating women isn't something the alt-right has a monopoly on - the regular right wing does it too!
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Jakyl25
08/25/17 5:50:36 PM
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Kenri posted...
What's even the point of being alt-right if you denounce white supremacism and nazism?

I guess you can still hate women, but..


It's all about image and branding

That's why the "new-right" broke off from the alt-right. Too many alt-righters were being stupid about how openly racist they are, and the thought leaders in the movement could no longer associate with them and pretend it wasn't about race.

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SgtSphynx
08/25/17 5:53:06 PM
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Found the screen grabs I saw...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DIALGHTXoAAij1y.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DIALGHVW0AArn-b.jpg

Like, it's fucking stupid, but it is not outside the realm of possibility
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Jakyl25
08/25/17 5:54:05 PM
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I mean, as awful as they both are, relative to each other in a vacuum,

"we need to do what's necessary to keep all nations racially homogenous by eliminating non-white races from historically white countries"
is technically better than
"Whites are the master race and all brown people need to be killed."
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LordoftheMorons
08/25/17 5:54:39 PM
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This probably isn't really a fair thing for which to assign blame to Trump, but of course this would happen:
https://twitter.com/danpfeiffer/status/901197915175010304
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Jakyl25
08/25/17 5:57:39 PM
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LordoftheMorons posted...
This probably isn't really a fair thing for which to assign blame to Trump, but of course this would happen:
https://twitter.com/danpfeiffer/status/901197915175010304


That's a very narrow minded look at it. In the long run, people and businesses PULLING OUT of Trump-owned spaces because of his handling of the rally has cost him more

I mean HIS KIDS, its cost HIS KIDS more, he's fully divested, surely! <_<
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Jakyl25
08/25/17 5:58:40 PM
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SgtSphynx posted...
Found the screen grabs I saw...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DIALGHTXoAAij1y.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DIALGHVW0AArn-b.jpg

Like, it's fucking stupid, but it is not outside the realm of possibility



It's really really stupid to think Antifa would start destroying things if there was literally no one there opposing them
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SgtSphynx
08/25/17 5:59:15 PM
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I know, but that wouldn't necessarily stop the trolls from making the fake protests
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Jakyl25
08/25/17 6:00:39 PM
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Also the idea that Boston was "mass chaos" is weird

It's almost like they only get biased news
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LordoftheMorons
08/25/17 6:01:06 PM
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Jakyl25 posted...
It's really really stupid to think Antifa would start destroying things if there was literally no one there opposing them

I'm not sure that's the case. In Berkeley at least I think they used the Milo rally as an excuse for violence they wanted to commit anyway (otherwise they would not have been breaking bank windows, for example, a mile away from the planned location of the speech).
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