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--kresnik--
08/25/17 2:41:42 PM
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A57c1st


Hypocrite. Unlike Taylor Swift, she has too pile on pounds of makeup.
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Trigg3rH4ppy
08/25/17 2:42:48 PM
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It's a little different when you've got thousands of weirdos wanting to rape you though.
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_BlueMonk
08/25/17 2:43:15 PM
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i dont think thats what she meant.
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NibeIungsnarf
08/25/17 2:44:39 PM
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If I were to make the same tweet Katy Perry did you could just as well say I'm a hypocrite because I lock my doors at night.

What a stupid response and what a stupid topic.
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Anarchy_Juiblex
08/25/17 2:44:55 PM
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Foreign, domestic, and immigration policy of our governments aren't meant to be applied to our personal lives?!
YOU DON'T FUCKING SAY?!@!!
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--kresnik--
08/25/17 2:45:42 PM
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NibeIungsnarf posted...
If I were to make the same tweet Katy Perry did you could just as well say I'm a hypocrite because I lock my doors at night.

What a stupid response and what a stupid topic.

Wow, don't let this ruin your day, br0
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Esrac
08/25/17 3:00:19 PM
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_BlueMonk posted...
i dont think thats what she meant.


She literally says no barriers, no walls.

People who advocate for no walls or barriers for the larger, national community, but then live in walled-off communities separate from the common rabble are hypocrites.

Now, one might argue she lives in a walled off community with armed security because letting anyone come and go could be dangerous. And that is the kind of argument people who oppose open-borders would make: letting anyone and everyone cross your national border is dangerous.
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DoomSwell
08/25/17 3:07:44 PM
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She's saying that's the ideal we should aim for but... we're not there yet, so that's why she has walls and guards.
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Caution999
08/25/17 3:08:22 PM
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"Look at me, I'm a celebrity! My opinion is somehow more valid than anyone else!"
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TheVipaGTS
08/25/17 3:09:24 PM
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TC you don't understand context, do you?
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Doom_Art
08/25/17 3:09:39 PM
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why is it that trump supporters get overly literal/pedantic when people talk about their dissenting opinions
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Nomadic View
08/25/17 3:09:58 PM
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NibeIungsnarf posted...
If I were to make the same tweet Katy Perry did you could just as well say I'm a hypocrite because I lock my doors at night.

What a stupid response and what a stupid topic.


Yeah, if you take actions to prevent people from walking into your house while saying "no barriers no walls" then you are a hypocrite.
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TheVipaGTS
08/25/17 3:10:21 PM
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Caution999 posted...
"Look at me, I'm a celebrity! My opinion is somehow more valid than anyone else!"

why do you have a right to post your idiotic opinions on CE or wherever but she doesn't have the right to say hers? where did she say hers is more valid...You on the other hand constantly think your opinion is the only right one...
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Doom_Art
08/25/17 3:11:52 PM
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Nomadic View posted...
Yeah, if you take actions to prevent people from walking into your house while saying "no barriers no walls" then you are a hypocrite.

Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
Foreign, domestic, and immigration policy of our governments aren't meant to be applied to our personal lives?!

:o
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Caution999
08/25/17 3:11:53 PM
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Lol I never think that.

I bring a different view point into a debate, and everyone here goes "NAZI!!!!"
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Doom_Art
08/25/17 3:13:13 PM
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Caution999 posted...
I bring a different view point into a debate

i'm gonna be perfectly honest, caution, you bring absolutely nothing to the table
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tennisdude818
08/25/17 3:13:48 PM
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Liberals are amazing. The small government crowd just wants the government to defend borders and property rights. Leftists want the government to everything BUT defend borders and property rights.

It's like the inverse of what the US government was supposed to be.
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Caution999
08/25/17 3:14:00 PM
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Oh, and you and your cronies bring something to the table?
Please inform me, what your buddy Kim Kusanagi brings to the table.
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UrCa1988
08/25/17 3:14:13 PM
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Doom_Art posted...
why is it that trump supporters get overly literal/pedantic when people talk about their dissenting opinions

But remember, Donald "tells it like it is" Trump requires nuance and context to understand when he says things.
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Mal_Fet
08/25/17 3:14:13 PM
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Trigg3rH4ppy posted...
It's a little different when you've got thousands of weirdos wanting to rape you though.

Like in Rotherham?
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mattnd2007
08/25/17 3:16:49 PM
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I agree with her in theory. In practice if we had this I'd probably be dead. Someone would have raped my mom. My little brother would be sold into the drug trade
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Balrog0
08/25/17 3:18:14 PM
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tennisdude818 posted...
Liberals are amazing. The small government crowd just wants the government to defend borders and property rights. Leftists want the government to everything BUT defend borders and property rights.


you conservatives who pretend to be libertarian get more annoying every day on this board
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Esrac
08/25/17 3:19:17 PM
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DoomSwell posted...
She's saying that's the ideal we should aim for but... we're not there yet, so that's why she has walls and guards.


Sounds like she isn't doing her part to achieve that goal then. Heh.

But seriously, do you have somd greater context to add to her quotation? These types of thing are vulnerable to cutting segments out of more comprehensive statements. From this, it seems like your typical, "no walls, no borders" nonsense we often hear from the Left.
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Esrac
08/25/17 3:19:51 PM
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Mal_Fet posted...
Trigg3rH4ppy posted...
It's a little different when you've got thousands of weirdos wanting to rape you though.

Like in Rotherham?


Don't forget Rochdale.
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Balrog0
08/25/17 3:21:18 PM
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Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
Foreign, domestic, and immigration policy of our governments aren't meant to be applied to our personal lives?!
YOU DON'T FUCKING SAY?!@!!
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maybe not, but if you pretend to like inclusivity and you live in a rich, gated community, there is a good chance you're a hypocrite imho

this applies less to public figures, though
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creativerealms
08/25/17 3:22:33 PM
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Coexistence is nice but its not that easy. Everyone has to be willing to work toward co existence and until that day comes, if it ever does, it's just a dream. Now I still think a wall is a horrible idea and a huge waste of tax payer dollars but boarders are a necessary thing. At least for now.
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Esrac
08/25/17 3:23:12 PM
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Balrog0 posted...
Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
Foreign, domestic, and immigration policy of our governments aren't meant to be applied to our personal lives?!
YOU DON'T FUCKING SAY?!@!!
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maybe not, but if you pretend to like inclusivity and you live in a rich, gated community, there is a good chance you're a hypocrite imho

this applies less to public figures, though


I'll be honest, this kind of thing does rub me the wrong way.

It's like saying "I believe in no walls or borders. Let everyone be free to be where they want to be...but not here!"
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--kresnik--
08/25/17 3:25:49 PM
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TheVipaGTS posted...
TC you don't understand context, do you?

TheVipaGTS posted...
Caution999 posted...
"Look at me, I'm a celebrity! My opinion is somehow more valid than anyone else!"

why do you have a right to post your idiotic opinions on CE or wherever but she doesn't have the right to say hers? where did she say hers is more valid...You on the other hand constantly think your opinion is the only right one...


You're literally trying to censor somebody because his nonviolent views are different than yours.

And viper, I just wanted to see you guys try to justify silly things.
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TheVipaGTS
08/25/17 3:26:57 PM
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Caution999 posted...

I bring a different view point into a debate

You bring nothing to the table just like in this topic.
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Caution999
08/25/17 3:29:51 PM
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It's like you guys don't even read your own posts sometimes.

All right whatever. You're all on the right side of history, unquestionably, on every single issue, and you're all wise beyond your years.
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Doom_Art
08/25/17 3:30:33 PM
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Caution999 posted...
It's like you guys don't even read your own posts sometimes.

well we certainly aren't going to start reading yours if that's what you're getting at
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--kresnik--
08/25/17 3:31:07 PM
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Doom_Art posted...
Caution999 posted...
It's like you guys don't even read your own posts sometimes.

well we certainly aren't going to start reading yours if that's what you're getting at

So you admit you shitpost people without even reading what they say? That makes sense.
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Caution999
08/25/17 3:32:04 PM
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Obviously it was a mistake for me to take Doom_Art off of my ignore list.

Ah well.
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Doom_Art
08/25/17 3:32:41 PM
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oh no

caution is putting me on

*gasp*

an ignore list


whatever will i do
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tennisdude818
08/25/17 3:33:33 PM
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Balrog0 posted...
tennisdude818 posted...
Liberals are amazing. The small government crowd just wants the government to defend borders and property rights. Leftists want the government to everything BUT defend borders and property rights.


you conservatives who pretend to be libertarian get more annoying every day on this board


Am I conservative pretending to be libertarian? I've criticized Trump numerous times for his actions in Syria and Afghanistan. Yesterday I made the topic, "why are we still in Afghanistan?"
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Caution999
08/25/17 3:36:34 PM
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Doom_Art posted...
oh no

caution is putting me on

*gasp*

an ignore list


whatever will i do



You're so intolerant of another person's view point that all you have left is personal attacks. College used to be a place where you would respect another person's view point, counter with another argument, and maybe both people learn something in the process.

Now it's "I need a safe space." and "Everyone that disagrees with me is a Nazi!"
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EverDownward
08/25/17 3:36:42 PM
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I feel like what she's asking for is total unity between the races on our planet, and while that's a nice dream it ultimately isn't going to happen. There will always be dissent, we wouldn't be human otherwise.
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Doom_Art
08/25/17 3:37:16 PM
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Caution999 posted...
College

i haven't been in college in years what does this have to do with anything?
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Caution999
08/25/17 3:37:49 PM
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That's where you're supposed to learn how to tolerate another view point.

Ah well.
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--kresnik--
08/25/17 3:38:00 PM
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Idealism kills every time.
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Doom_Art
08/25/17 3:39:02 PM
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Caution999 posted...
That's where you're supposed to learn how to tolerate another view point.

Ah well.

this is where you're supposed to learn how to make better posts

ah well.
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TheVipaGTS
08/25/17 3:45:08 PM
#43:


"You're so intolerant of other views!..*puts other views on ignore and attacks other views because they came from a celebrity*
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Balrog0
08/25/17 3:45:35 PM
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tennisdude818 posted...
Am I conservative pretending to be libertarian?


yes

tennisdude818 posted...
I've criticized Trump numerous times for his actions in Syria and Afghanistan. Yesterday I made the topic, "why are we still in Afghanistan?"


this gives you roughly the same libertarian bona fides as pat buchanan
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tennisdude818
08/25/17 3:50:39 PM
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Balrog0 posted...
tennisdude818 posted...
Am I conservative pretending to be libertarian?


yes

tennisdude818 posted...
I've criticized Trump numerous times for his actions in Syria and Afghanistan. Yesterday I made the topic, "why are we still in Afghanistan?"


this gives you roughly the same libertarian bona fides as pat buchanan


Well I read Rothbard, follow the Mises Institute, and listen to people like Tom Woods. I'm not sure if you're a liberal or a Gary Johnson voter, but somewhere along the line you made the wrong assumption about me.
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--kresnik--
08/25/17 3:53:41 PM
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Balrog, you make things up to fit your narrative.
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Balrog0
08/25/17 3:54:54 PM
#47:


tennisdude818 posted...
Well I read Rothbard, follow the Mises Institute, and listen to people like Tom Woods.


so you're christopher cantwell circa 2012

also lol @ tom woods
http://bad.eserver.org/reviews/2005/tomwoods.jpg

--kresnik-- posted...
Balrog, you make things up to fit your narrative.


when did I do that?

--kresnik-- posted...
Balrog, you make things up to fit your narrative.


when did I do that?
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tennisdude818
08/25/17 4:03:31 PM
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Balrog0 posted...
tennisdude818 posted...
Well I read Rothbard, follow the Mises Institute, and listen to people like Tom Woods.


so you're christopher cantwell circa 2012

also lol @ tom woods
http://bad.eserver.org/reviews/2005/tomwoods.jpg


I don't know who Cantwell is. Tom Woods talks about succession and nullification all the time. You must be a liberal because you posted a picture of Woods with the League of the South instead of making an actual point. Hardcore Gary Johnson fans can make lazy points, but not that lazy.
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Balrog0
08/25/17 4:07:14 PM
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I'm neither of those things, I'm an actual libertarian.

What point do you want? You're praising a paleocon and an organization he works with that is a hotbed for alt-right white supremacists and other blood and soil types. The picture with the league of the south is germane, because Tom Woods' main 'contribution' to libertarianism in both thought and deed is to dog-whistle it to racists along with Rockwell and Ron Paul.

There are peopel affiliated with the LvMI that aren't awful, but Tom Woods is
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Caution999
08/25/17 4:08:13 PM
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TheVipaGTS posted...
"You're so intolerant of other views!..*puts other views on ignore and attacks other views because they came from a celebrity*



I haven't even ignored you. At least you typically don't take personal shots at me and use some logic and reasoning. Doom isn't even ignored yet. There are a few cronies that constantly try to identify me as "X" - and so I had them ignored for a while.

Things had gotten so sour between me and some users here that I retired from delving into politics anymore.

Celebrities typically have horrible opinions. Really - just stating the obvious with that one. They don't live in the real world like you or me.
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