Poll of the Day > 47 y/o Michigan Man who MURDERED a GAY Man in 1995 is being RELEASED!!!

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Jonathan Schmitz was 24 years old when he murdered his 32 y/o GAY ACQUAINTANCE, Scott Amedure in Michigan in 1995 after Scott expressed "romantic interest" in him on national television of the Jenny Jones show...3 days later he SHOT him out of "humiliation"!!

Scott said on the show, which has not been aired, that he had romantic interest in Jonathan..but Jonathan said he was not gay and flipped his lid 3 days later after appearing on the show with him and murdered him by shooting him 3 times in Lake Orion

He turned himself into police and was sentenced to 25-50 years in priosn for 2nd degree murder

Jonathan was granted parole after a March hearing and is now going to be RELEASED NEXT WEEK!!

Scott's brother, Frank said he's troubled by the parole decision and unsure if Jonathan has learned his lesson. He said "I wanted assurance that the parole board's decision was not based on just good behaviour in prison. I'd lke to know that he learned soething, that he's a changed man, is no longer homophobic and has gotten psychological care"

Geoffrey Fieger who was the attorney said that everybody involved on the show deserves imprisoment and said "That show set him up and certainly took Scott Amedure's life for no reason"

The Jenny Jones show was cancelled in 2003 after it had the lowest ratings in history..

Do you actually believe Jonathan is a "changed" man?.

Scott - Murdered

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Jonathan - Being Released

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http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2017/08/18/18/435C0A0400000578-0-image-a-9_1503076081363.jpg

Jenny Jones Show -

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When you serve your sentence, you get out. Really not a hard concept. Frankly, he should have been released at 40 since that's enough time in there and he could go on to be a productive member of society.

mrduckbear posted...

Jonathan Schmitz was 24 years old when he murdered his 32 y/o GAY ACQUAINTANCE, Scott Amedure in Michigan in 1995 after Scott expressed "romantic interest" in him on national television of the Jenny Jones show...

That's all kinds of fucked up. Even if he thought Schmitz was a closeted gay, that's the wrong way to go about things.
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That's all kinds of fucked up. Even if he thought Schmitz was a closeted gay, that's the wrong way to go about things.

Sometimes I feel you look for things to be annoying about

mrduckbear posted...

Do you actually believe Jonathan is a "changed" man?

Probably not. Very worrying that such a small thing would cause him to murder someone.
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wwinterj25 posted...

mrduckbear posted...

Do you actually believe Jonathan is a "changed" man?

Probably not. Very worrying that such a small thing would cause him to murder someone.

Disagree. People can change.

I dont think it was some small thing... This man took him in front of a live television audience and graphically described his homosexual fantasies he had with him(report mentioned whipped cream, strawberries, champagne) http://murderpedia.org/male.S/s/schmitz-jonathan.htm

Also according to that the man left a sexually suggestive note on his doorstep 3 days after the taping and then the killer confronted the man with a shotgun in response to the note.

I just think its very dangerous to put men in that situation.. .Men are wired very differently by nature than women. Put a woman in that position which is pretty clear sexual harassment she probably withdraws, feels unsafe, maybe calls the police or files a restraining order.

A man is hard wired to react with conflict, not to mention, the stigma... particularly in the 90s of a homosexual relationship at the time was something to be laughed at and jeered... mind you this is way before LBGT... he was probably completely humiliated as the audience laughed and giggled at these ridiculous descriptions of homosexual foodplay and the harassing note well after he stated he was not gay and not interested probably sent him over the line.


Killing him was obviously way too far but I feel like if he had just went over there and beat the guys ass that wouldve seen a normal, justified end to the story.

An aside, this is one of the issues with guns in society but thats another story alltogether

OmegaTomHank posted...

A man is hard wired to react with conflict

Guess I'm not a man then.

OmegaTomHank posted...

not to mention, the stigma... particularly in the 90s of a homosexual relationship at the time was something to be laughed at and jeered

No different than it is now really.
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Somehow knew this would be about the Jenny Jones case. The show was stupidly irresponsible, but it's no one's fault but his that he killed the guy.
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MICHALECOLE posted...

That's all kinds of fucked up. Even if he thought Schmitz was a closeted gay, that's the wrong way to go about things.

Sometimes I feel you look for things to be annoying about

Sometimes I feel that you pick the wrong instance to make a long-held observation.

wwinterj25 posted...

mrduckbear posted...

Do you actually believe Jonathan is a "changed" man?

Probably not. Very worrying that such a small thing would cause him to murder someone.

He was in his early 20s when young men are more volatile and put into a position that might provoke a reaction from even a more emotionally mature man. Even if he learned nothing in prison, his range of emotions should naturally have cooled.

OmegaTomHank posted...

I dont think it was some small thing... This man took him in front of a live television audience and graphically described his homosexual fantasies he had with him(report mentioned whipped cream, strawberries, champagne) http://murderpedia.org/male.S/s/schmitz-jonathan.htm

Also according to that the man left a sexually suggestive note on his doorstep 3 days after the taping and then the killer confronted the man with a shotgun in response to the note.

And I thought it was fucked up before. Who the hell would leave a note like that if they already put somebody through that shit and consequently knew they weren't interested? Not that it justifies shooting anybody, especially when you can just take out a restraining order.

Golden Road posted...

Somehow knew this would be about the Jenny Jones case. The show was stupidly irresponsible, but it's no one's fault but his that he killed the guy.

At the same time, the show is culpable for putting people into this kind of situation. So while the guy's guilty of murder, it would be nice if the show's creators could get charged with something as well.
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wwinterj25 posted...

OmegaTomHank posted...

A man is hard wired to react with conflict

Guess I'm not a man then.

OmegaTomHank posted...

not to mention, the stigma... particularly in the 90s of a homosexual relationship at the time was something to be laughed at and jeered

No different than it is now really.

You may have more patience than others but if you were put in a position where you were uncomfortable then see what happens.


You need to understand that humans have been around a long time and a large portion of that time people would constantly be trying to steal your shit and rape your wife and enslave your children.... especially depending on you culture..

Hell Native American culture was like this as recent as 600 years ago. Thats why warrior culture was so important to the natives.. not because they were mindless savages but because they legit lived in a lawless world of survival of the fittest and they had to protect their lives and families.

Thats not something that just goes away, its hard ingrained in primates. The silverback gorilla behaves similarly... he defends the group from predators, resolves conflicts within the tribe with sheer physical force and intimidation, etc.

OmegaTomHank posted...

You may have more patience than others but if you were put in a position where you were uncomfortable then see what happens.

Hot.
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OmegaTomHank posted...

I dont think it was some small thing... This man took him in front of a live television audience and graphically described his homosexual fantasies he had with him(report mentioned whipped cream, strawberries, champagne) http://murderpedia.org/male.S/s/schmitz-jonathan.htm

Also according to that the man left a sexually suggestive note on his doorstep 3 days after the taping and then the killer confronted the man with a shotgun in response to the note.

I just think its very dangerous to put men in that situation.. .Men are wired very differently by nature than women. Put a woman in that position which is pretty clear sexual harassment she probably withdraws, feels unsafe, maybe calls the police or files a restraining order.

A man is hard wired to react with conflict, not to mention, the stigma... particularly in the 90s of a homosexual relationship at the time was something to be laughed at and jeered... mind you this is way before LBGT... he was probably completely humiliated as the audience laughed and giggled at these ridiculous descriptions of homosexual foodplay and the harassing note well after he stated he was not gay and not interested probably sent him over the line.


Killing him was obviously way too far but I feel like if he had just went over there and beat the guys ass that wouldve seen a normal, justified end to the story.

An aside, this is one of the issues with guns in society but thats another story alltogether

Right, because a man who is enough of a homophobe to kill or beat somebody due to their advances was somehow more acceptable in the 1990s. Are you 14-years-old or just willing to speak out about things that you have little to no insight on?

No; I don't think he's changed. Though I suspect he'd think twice about murder if he found himself in that situation again.
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I wonder if the murderer was secretly gay. I mean, that's a huge overreaction for somebody to have. Another person likes you, that just means you've got redeeming qualities... I guess. I've had a couple of gay dudes like me, it was flattering despite my complete disinterest. You don't need to be a jerk, let alone kill the person.... He seems dangerous and unstable.

He served his time though, that's the rule.
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its funny how liberals usually leap to the "PRisoN is BaD ANd It DOeSnT RehABILitaTE! RelEASe ALl PrISOnErs!" until its a case with someone who opposes their values.
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TheCyborgNinja posted...

I wonder if the murderer was secretly gay. I mean, that's a huge overreaction for somebody to have.

Not really. Young men tend to be more sensitive than every other group when it comes to accusations of homosexuality.

TheCyborgNinja posted...

I guess. I've had a couple of gay dudes like me, it was flattering despite my complete disinterest. You don't need to be a jerk, let alone kill the person.... He seems dangerous and unstable.

Keep in mind that this didn't just happen in a private setting but in front of a large audience with video cams going. Pretending that it's comparable to getting hit by strangers on at a bar is ridiculous. Then, after being subjected to that, the much older man chose to further harass the kid with a note after already seeing his reaction which is just rubbing salt in the wound.

You've never been put in a situation like that. I've never been put in a situation like that. Nobody on this board has been in a situation like that. And hopefully none of us will, because revealing shit like that on a tv show is just a dick move and then taunting somebody afterward is a really shitty thing to do.
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