Current Events > Should statues of Native Americans who fought against Americans be removed?

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The Admiral
08/18/17 8:15:20 AM
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Should they be removed?


Like these:
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Let's summarize the actions of the Native Americans:
- Killed thousands of American settlers across numerous battles
- Lost the various wars they fought in (to quote CE, "why do they get a participation trophy?")
- Had many customs that are barbaric by modern standards (scalping, genocide of other tribes, human sacrifice in very extreme cases)
- Are justified as memorials to the dead warriors, without any thought to how it might make Americans feel who had distant family members killed

Since we're at the point of re-evaluating these things, is it time to tear down these Native American statues?
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Doom_Art
08/18/17 8:16:53 AM
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Fighting us because we occupied their land is not the same as seceding to create a treasonous slave state.
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emblem boy
08/18/17 8:17:34 AM
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This should be an interesting topic
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pegusus123456
08/18/17 8:18:44 AM
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Doom_Art posted...
Fighting us because we occupied their land is not the same as seceding to create a treasonous slave state.

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littlebro07
08/18/17 8:19:51 AM
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pegusus123456 posted...
Doom_Art posted...
Fighting us because we occupied their land is not the same as seceding to create a treasonous slave state.

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ProfDE
08/18/17 8:20:28 AM
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It is part of history so it should stay. You can't just pretend something didn't happen.
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CircleOfManias
08/18/17 8:20:29 AM
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littlebro07 posted...
pegusus123456 posted...
Doom_Art posted...
Fighting us because we occupied their land is not the same as seceding to create a treasonous slave state.

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QwelzaarKane
08/18/17 8:21:13 AM
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littlebro07 posted...
pegusus123456 posted...
Doom_Art posted...
Fighting us because we occupied their land is not the same as seceding to create a treasonous slave state.

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anth0ny
08/18/17 8:21:52 AM
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this topic is pretty "barbarous" u reaching little flea
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Foppe
08/18/17 8:22:56 AM
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Yes, we must censor history so the future will believe that they were nice guys that gave us their land for free.
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Antifar
08/18/17 8:23:28 AM
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Context is a thing that exists.
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Philoktetes
08/18/17 8:23:52 AM
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no

only white people are bad
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OpheliaAdenade
08/18/17 8:23:53 AM
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littlebro07 posted...
pegusus123456 posted...
Doom_Art posted...
Fighting us because we occupied their land is not the same as seceding to create a treasonous slave state.

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LightningAce11
08/18/17 8:24:28 AM
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@UnfairRepresent what do you make of this?
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FrenchCrunch
08/18/17 8:25:06 AM
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Did you think this was a really good point or something
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Doom_Art
08/18/17 8:27:32 AM
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FrenchCrunch posted...
Did you think this was a really good point or something

Right now the right wing doesn't have much of a defense so they're just tossing shit at a wall to see what can stick.
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anth0ny
08/18/17 8:27:40 AM
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a black woman yanked a confederate statue in the year of our lord trump, get over it.

(this would have never happened with Hillary and it's pretty great)
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Zero_Destroyer
08/18/17 8:27:41 AM
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why is it that the right wingers defending the monuments can't even come up with good arguments for it

Like, they exist. I'm liberal. I don't support the removal of the statues because I think they hold great historical importance and should serve as a reminder of our pretty ugly history.

Why bother making a terrible equivalency?

Native American situation: Europeans (generations later, Americans) invade and progressively genocide and stomp out native population: Native population fought back where they could, violently so.

Civil War: Confederacy attempted to save its economically lucrative slave trade by splitting from the U.S., caused entire conflict over their perceived right to own people.

not comparable at all
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Horus_Leftfield
08/18/17 8:34:55 AM
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This might be the most scum bag topic you ever made Admiral
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DanHarenChamp
08/18/17 8:38:50 AM
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Fucking rekt by the first reply.
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iosifsvoboda
08/18/17 8:41:24 AM
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OpheliaAdenade posted...
littlebro07 posted...
pegusus123456 posted...
Doom_Art posted...
Fighting us because we occupied their land is not the same as seceding to create a treasonous slave state.

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BilalPowell
08/18/17 8:42:55 AM
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We should take down the statue of liberty. It was made by somebody who never made a pro-gay tweet in his life.
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thelovefist
08/18/17 8:43:04 AM
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iosifsvoboda posted...
OpheliaAdenade posted...
littlebro07 posted...
pegusus123456 posted...
Doom_Art posted...
Fighting us because we occupied their land is not the same as seceding to create a treasonous slave state.

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Horus_Leftfield
08/18/17 8:43:30 AM
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Why is Admiral still allowed to come here... Like why isn't he IP banned by now. Do the admins give him special treatment or something.
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OpheliaAdenade
08/18/17 8:43:53 AM
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this topic was a mistake admiral.
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anth0ny
08/18/17 8:44:49 AM
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This land would have been so much better if they could win.

If only Europe had more room for their own stupid shit imho
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Dathrowed1
08/18/17 8:49:24 AM
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ProfDE posted...
It is part of history so it should stay. You can't just pretend something didn't happen.

You'd be surprised how easily we forget history.
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FrenchCrunch
08/18/17 8:51:20 AM
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Horus_Leftfield posted...
Why is Admiral still allowed to come here... Like why isn't he IP banned by now. Do the admins give him special treatment or something.

dude can you like chill please
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DragonJumpKick
08/18/17 8:51:28 AM
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How long until you can close a topic again? I always forget
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Doom_Art
08/18/17 8:52:02 AM
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DragonJumpKick posted...
How long until you can close a topic again? I always forget

I think it's 5 mins
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ZMythos
08/18/17 8:59:26 AM
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You conservatives are trying really hard here.

"Should MLK statues be removed because he was supposedly against gay marriage?"

"Should George Washington statues be removed because he owed slaves?"

"Should native American statues be removed because they did... iunno... things?"

All of you hyper right people are acting like butthurt nutjob strawmen.
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ooger
08/18/17 9:02:55 AM
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OpheliaAdenade posted...
littlebro07 posted...
pegusus123456 posted...
Doom_Art posted...
Fighting us because we occupied their land is not the same as seceding to create a treasonous slave state.

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Bluebomber182
08/18/17 9:03:51 AM
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yet another example of addys shitposting where he gets rekt and will deny it ever happened
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_OujiDoza_
08/18/17 9:08:22 AM
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ooger posted...
OpheliaAdenade posted...
littlebro07 posted...
pegusus123456 posted...
Doom_Art posted...
Fighting us because we occupied their land is not the same as seceding to create a treasonous slave state.

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apocalyptic_4
08/18/17 9:08:23 AM
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One fought for slavery the other against foreign Invaders.

What is the point of this topic.
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TommyG663513
08/18/17 9:11:40 AM
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_OujiDoza_ posted...
ooger posted...
OpheliaAdenade posted...
littlebro07 posted...
pegusus123456 posted...
Doom_Art posted...
Fighting us because we occupied their land is not the same as seceding to create a treasonous slave state.

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That_Happened
08/18/17 9:17:28 AM
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I don't know if TC is the right guy to complain about double standards.

After all, he said of the Nazis marching through Charlottesville with rifles and chanting "blood and soil"

The Admiral posted...
No. They actually behaved civilly


but when a black man in Detroit was wrongly arrested for carrying a rifle as part of an "open-carry protest" Admiral said,

The Admiral posted...
I have no idea why people need to be carrying around assault weapons like that. It's incredibly threatening to other people, and I guarantee it's just being done so these impotent losers can feel powerful.



But post #2 already nailed it:

Doom_Art posted...
Fighting us because we occupied their land is not the same as seceding to create a treasonous slave state.

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K181
08/18/17 9:18:36 AM
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TommyG663513 posted...
_OujiDoza_ posted...
ooger posted...
OpheliaAdenade posted...
littlebro07 posted...
pegusus123456 posted...
Doom_Art posted...
Fighting us because we occupied their land is not the same as seceding to create a treasonous slave state.

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Horus_Leftfield
08/18/17 9:18:53 AM
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FrenchCrunch posted...
Horus_Leftfield posted...
Why is Admiral still allowed to come here... Like why isn't he IP banned by now. Do the admins give him special treatment or something.

dude can you like chill please

Umm what makes you think I'm not?
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Zodd3224
08/18/17 9:19:01 AM
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Doom_Art posted...
Fighting us because we occupied their land is not the same as seceding to create a treasonous slave state.

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apocalyptic_4
08/18/17 9:19:44 AM
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Someone should screenshot his posts. He contradicts himself and outright denies it ever happening.
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ssj3vegeta_
08/18/17 9:22:03 AM
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ooger
08/18/17 9:23:18 AM
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BilalPowell posted...
We should hurrfy durrf durrf durfff.


#republican't logic
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Dathrowed1
08/18/17 9:23:27 AM
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apocalyptic_4 posted...
Someone should screenshot his posts. He contradicts himself and outright denies it ever happening.

He doesn't deserve that kind of attention
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ooger
08/18/17 9:23:58 AM
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ssj3vegeta_ posted...
Why does admiral hate non white people iyo

Because he's a knuckle dragging, Dumpy Trumpy loving, racist.
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anth0ny
08/18/17 9:25:52 AM
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ssj3vegeta_ posted...
Why does admiral hate non white people iyo

what else would there be to live for imho
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Milkman5
08/18/17 9:28:07 AM
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just get rid of all statues since a lot of historical human beings were actually garbage in some aspect or another
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The Admiral
08/18/17 9:28:28 AM
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Horus_Leftfield posted...
Why is Admiral still allowed to come here... Like why isn't he IP banned by now. Do the admins give him special treatment or something.


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Irony.

apocalyptic_4 posted...
Someone should screenshot his posts. He contradicts himself and outright denies it ever happening.


Feel free. Much preferred over you guys having to make stuff up all the time.

Doom_Art posted...
Fighting us because we occupied their land is not the same as seceding to create a treasonous slave state.


The north was the aggressor in the Civil War. Both the Native Americans and the South were responding to being attacked on their home soil. In both cases the aggressor wanted rights over the land it was attacking.

But keep mindlessly quoting this.
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