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darkphoenix181 08/16/17 12:57:24 PM #1:	should statues of Andrew Jackson be taken down? yes, all racists must go! yes, just him though no, he was the president no, stop taking down statues don't care View Results http://www.latimes.com/opinion/readersreact/la-ol-le-andrew-jackson-new-orleans-20170501-story.html https://www.wsj.com/articles/amid-toppled-confederate-statues-andrew-jackson-stands-tall-1490393581 http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/a-national-monument-is-not-a-statue-and-andrew-jackson_us_5909ff8de4b03b105b44be35 So should this be fair next? --- sigless user is me or am I? <cite>darkphoenix181 posted [p:884884498] in should sta... [t:75677005]...</cite> <quote> should statues of Andrew Jackson be taken down? yes, all racists must go! yes, just him though no, he was the president no, stop taking down statues don't care View Results http://www.latimes.com/opinion/readersreact/la-ol-le-andrew-jackson-new-orleans-20170501-story.html https://www.wsj.com/articles/amid-toppled-confederate-statues-andrew-jackson-stands-tall-1490393581 http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/a-national-monument-is-not-a-statue-and-andrew-jackson_us_5909ff8de4b03b105b44be35 So should this be fair next?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Damn_Underscore 08/16/17 1:00:49 PM #2:	This is the slippery slope. Now our own history is being trashed because it isn't up to modern progressive standards. --- Shenmue II = best game of all time Shenmue = 2nd best game of all time <cite>Damn_Underscore posted [p:884884696] in should sta... [t:75677005]...</cite> <quote>This is the slippery slope. Now our own history is being trashed because it isn't up to modern progressive standards.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkphoenix181 08/16/17 1:01:52 PM #3:	Damn_Underscore posted... This is the slippery slope. Now our own history is being trashed because it isn't up to modern progressive standards. not necessarily explain why you want Andrew to stay up other than slippery slope plz --- sigless user is me or am I? <cite>darkphoenix181 posted [p:884884756] in should sta... [t:75677005]...</cite> <quote><cite>Damn_Underscore posted...</cite> <quote>This is the slippery slope. Now our own history is being trashed because it isn't up to modern progressive standards.</quote> not necessarily explain why you want Andrew to stay up other than slippery slope plz</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ToonLinkWithGun 08/16/17 1:04:24 PM #4:	Take them all down. --- Wombo Combo! http://i.imgur.com/fToefC5.jpg <cite>ToonLinkWithGun posted [p:884884895] in should sta... [t:75677005]...</cite> <quote>Take them all down.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkphoenix181 08/16/17 1:07:55 PM #6:	ToonLinkWithGun posted... Take them all down. what do you mean by them? all Andrew Jackson statues or all statues period? --- sigless user is me or am I? <cite>darkphoenix181 posted [p:884885093] in should sta... [t:75677005]...</cite> <quote><cite>ToonLinkWithGun posted...</cite> <quote>Take them all down.</quote> what do you mean by them? all Andrew Jackson statues or all statues period?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Damn_Underscore 08/16/17 1:08:49 PM #7:	The only thing you could criticize Andrew Jackson for as president is the Indian Removal situation, and that was a lose-lose situation. He was a war hero and did many great things as president. The one article mentions that he was a slave-owner... so were most of the Founding Fathers. --- Shenmue II = best game of all time Shenmue = 2nd best game of all time <cite>Damn_Underscore posted [p:884885132] in should sta... [t:75677005]...</cite> <quote>The only thing you could criticize Andrew Jackson for as president is the Indian Removal situation, and that was a lose-lose situation. He was a war hero and did many great things as president. The one article mentions that he was a slave-owner... so were most of the Founding Fathers.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 08/16/17 1:09:12 PM #8:	Depends what they are honoring. --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:884885149] in should sta... [t:75677005]...</cite> <quote>Depends what they are honoring.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NadYobWoc 08/16/17 1:10:06 PM #9:	Damn_Underscore posted... The only thing you could criticize Andrew Jackson for as president is the Indian Removal situation, and that was a lose-lose situation. He was a war hero and did many great things as president. The one article mentions that he was a slave-owner... so were most of the Founding Fathers. "Indian removal situation" That's an interesting was to say genocide. --- Cowboy Dan's a major player in the cowboy scene <cite>NadYobWoc posted [p:884885205] in should sta... [t:75677005]...</cite> <quote><cite>Damn_Underscore posted...</cite> <quote>The only thing you could criticize Andrew Jackson for as president is the Indian Removal situation, and that was a lose-lose situation. He was a war hero and did many great things as president. The one article mentions that he was a slave-owner... so were most of the Founding Fathers.</quote> "Indian removal situation" That's an interesting was to say genocide.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
nativengine 08/16/17 1:15:55 PM #10:	Andrew Jackson did terrible, awful thing to my people. I wouldn't want to see his statues come down. Despite my personal feelings on the guy, he's a hero to a lot of Americans and I can accept that. <cite>nativengine posted [p:884885549] in should sta... [t:75677005]...</cite> <quote>Andrew Jackson did terrible, awful thing to my people. I wouldn't want to see his statues come down. Despite my personal feelings on the guy, he's a hero to a lot of Americans and I can accept that.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Damn_Underscore 08/16/17 1:25:40 PM #11:	NadYobWoc posted... Damn_Underscore posted... The only thing you could criticize Andrew Jackson for as president is the Indian Removal situation, and that was a lose-lose situation. He was a war hero and did many great things as president. The one article mentions that he was a slave-owner... so were most of the Founding Fathers. "Indian removal situation" That's an interesting was to say genocide. Do you even know the history? The Supreme Court said that the Indian Tribes who lived in Georgia would be allowed to keep their land. Andrew Jackson feared war between the Georgia militia and the Federal Government (who would defend the decision of the Court) + the Indian tribes, so he ignored the Supreme Court's decision and negotiated a deal with the Tribes by the Indian Removal Act, which was passed by Congress, to give them the land that is now Oklahoma. Most people went to Oklahoma, but many refused to go and stayed in their home lands. Eventually there was a deadline for them to leave and everyone eventually left. But the people who left at the final deadline took the same paths as everyone else, so there was a lack of food & supplies and the paths were very crowded, which caused disease to spread. That is the Trail of Tears. Andrew Jackson can be criticized for the situation, but not nearly as much as he is today by some people. --- Shenmue II = best game of all time Shenmue = 2nd best game of all time <cite>Damn_Underscore posted [p:884886174] in should sta... [t:75677005]...</cite> <quote><cite>NadYobWoc posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Damn_Underscore posted...</cite> <quote>The only thing you could criticize Andrew Jackson for as president is the Indian Removal situation, and that was a lose-lose situation. He was a war hero and did many great things as president. The one article mentions that he was a slave-owner... so were most of the Founding Fathers.</quote> "Indian removal situation" That's an interesting was to say genocide.</quote> Do you even know the history? The Supreme Court said that the Indian Tribes who lived in Georgia would be allowed to keep their land. Andrew Jackson feared war between the Georgia militia and the Federal Government (who would defend the decision of the Court) + the Indian tribes, so he ignored the Supreme Court's decision and negotiated a deal with the Tribes by the Indian Removal Act, which was passed by Congress, to give them the land that is now Oklahoma. Most people went to Oklahoma, but many refused to go and stayed in their home lands. Eventually there was a deadline for them to leave and everyone eventually left. But the people who left at the final deadline took the same paths as everyone else, so there was a lack of food & supplies and the paths were very crowded, which caused disease to spread. That is the Trail of Tears. Andrew Jackson can be criticized for the situation, but not nearly as much as he is today by some people.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
eston 08/16/17 1:26:44 PM #12:	Dude was a monster tbqh --- http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i215/estonc/grizzly_bear_chairs_2.jpg http://i.imgur.com/8kjZU.jpg <cite>eston posted [p:884886240] in should sta... [t:75677005]...</cite> <quote>Dude was a monster tbqh</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NadYobWoc 08/16/17 2:09:04 PM #13:	Damn_Underscore posted... NadYobWoc posted... Damn_Underscore posted... The only thing you could criticize Andrew Jackson for as president is the Indian Removal situation, and that was a lose-lose situation. He was a war hero and did many great things as president. The one article mentions that he was a slave-owner... so were most of the Founding Fathers. "Indian removal situation" That's an interesting was to say genocide. Do you even know the history? The Supreme Court said that the Indian Tribes who lived in Georgia would be allowed to keep their land. Andrew Jackson feared war between the Georgia militia and the Federal Government (who would defend the decision of the Court) + the Indian tribes, so he ignored the Supreme Court's decision and negotiated a deal with the Tribes by the Indian Removal Act, which was passed by Congress, to give them the land that is now Oklahoma. Most people went to Oklahoma, but many refused to go and stayed in their home lands. Eventually there was a deadline for them to leave and everyone eventually left. But the people who left at the final deadline took the same paths as everyone else, so there was a lack of food & supplies and the paths were very crowded, which caused disease to spread. That is the Trail of Tears. Andrew Jackson can be criticized for the situation, but not nearly as much as he is today by some people. wow --- Cowboy Dan's a major player in the cowboy scene <cite>NadYobWoc posted [p:884888808] in should sta... [t:75677005]...</cite> <quote><cite>Damn_Underscore posted...</cite> <quote><cite>NadYobWoc posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Damn_Underscore posted...</cite> <quote>The only thing you could criticize Andrew Jackson for as president is the Indian Removal situation, and that was a lose-lose situation. He was a war hero and did many great things as president. The one article mentions that he was a slave-owner... so were most of the Founding Fathers.</quote> "Indian removal situation" That's an interesting was to say genocide.</quote> Do you even know the history? The Supreme Court said that the Indian Tribes who lived in Georgia would be allowed to keep their land. Andrew Jackson feared war between the Georgia militia and the Federal Government (who would defend the decision of the Court) + the Indian tribes, so he ignored the Supreme Court's decision and negotiated a deal with the Tribes by the Indian Removal Act, which was passed by Congress, to give them the land that is now Oklahoma. Most people went to Oklahoma, but many refused to go and stayed in their home lands. Eventually there was a deadline for them to leave and everyone eventually left. But the people who left at the final deadline took the same paths as everyone else, so there was a lack of food & supplies and the paths were very crowded, which caused disease to spread. That is the Trail of Tears. Andrew Jackson can be criticized for the situation, but not nearly as much as he is today by some people.</quote> wow</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Damn_Underscore 08/16/17 2:12:51 PM #14:	What does wow mean? --- Shenmue II = best game of all time Shenmue = 2nd best game of all time <cite>Damn_Underscore posted [p:884889042] in should sta... [t:75677005]...</cite> <quote>What does wow mean?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HypnoCoosh 08/16/17 2:13:16 PM #15:	I hope they keep pushing this agenda. Just keep on pushing guys I swear everything is gonna be alright. --- We make men without chests and expect from them virtue and enterprise. We laugh at honor and are shocked to find traitors in our midst. - C.S. Lewis <cite>HypnoCoosh posted [p:884889069] in should sta... [t:75677005]...</cite> <quote>I hope they keep pushing this agenda. Just keep on pushing guys I swear everything is gonna be alright.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Vyrulisse 08/16/17 2:13:47 PM #16:	Damn_Underscore posted... What does wow mean? History is offensive apparently. --- http://i.imgur.com/6VeX04D.jpg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UEdFxjje7dI <cite>Vyrulisse posted [p:884889096] in should sta... [t:75677005]...</cite> <quote><cite>Damn_Underscore posted...</cite> <quote>What does wow mean?</quote> History is offensive apparently.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NadYobWoc 08/16/17 2:16:42 PM #17:	Vyrulisse posted... Damn_Underscore posted... What does wow mean? History is offensive apparently. It's dumb to justify and defend someone who contributed to genocide. --- Cowboy Dan's a major player in the cowboy scene <cite>NadYobWoc posted [p:884889264] in should sta... [t:75677005]...</cite> <quote><cite>Vyrulisse posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Damn_Underscore posted...</cite> <quote>What does wow mean?</quote> History is offensive apparently.</quote> It's dumb to justify and defend someone who contributed to genocide.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Philoktetes 08/16/17 2:17:32 PM #18:	it wasn't genocide it was relocation it was a sad tragedy so many indians died on the trail of tears but that wasn't the goal --- I don't think so, Tim. ~~ Pizza Crew ~~ <cite>Philoktetes posted [p:884889319] in should sta... [t:75677005]...</cite> <quote>it wasn't genocide it was relocation it was a sad tragedy so many indians died on the trail of tears but that wasn't the goal</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NadYobWoc 08/16/17 2:19:11 PM #19:	Philoktetes posted... it wasn't genocide it was relocation it was a sad tragedy so many indians died on the trail of tears but that wasn't the goal The relocation was part of the larger genocide. --- Cowboy Dan's a major player in the cowboy scene <cite>NadYobWoc posted [p:884889400] in should sta... [t:75677005]...</cite> <quote><cite>Philoktetes posted...</cite> <quote>it wasn't genocide it was relocation it was a sad tragedy so many indians died on the trail of tears but that wasn't the goal</quote> The relocation was part of the larger genocide.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
lilORANG 08/16/17 2:19:22 PM #20:	No. He's a president --- Mars ain't the kind of place to raise your kids. <cite>lilORANG posted [p:884889412] in should sta... [t:75677005]...</cite> <quote>No. He's a president</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Scorsese2002 08/16/17 2:20:17 PM #21:	All statues should be taken down, cause that's the trend. --- R.I.P. GameFAQs Throwback Mode <cite>Scorsese2002 posted [p:884889472] in should sta... [t:75677005]...</cite> <quote>All statues should be taken down, cause that's the trend.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Garioshi 08/16/17 2:20:43 PM #22:	The only good thing that Andrew Jackson has ever done is win the Battle of New Orleans. Literally everything else he's done is a stain on America's record. --- "The only things I can trust right now are myself and this big gun." - Eric from Zero Time Dilemma http://steamcommunity.com/id/Garioshi/wishlist <cite>Garioshi posted [p:884889500] in should sta... [t:75677005]...</cite> <quote>The only good thing that Andrew Jackson has ever done is win the Battle of New Orleans. Literally everything else he's done is a stain on America's record.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ZombiePelican 08/16/17 2:23:59 PM #23:	Garioshi posted... The only good thing that Andrew Jackson has ever done is win the Battle of New Orleans. Literally everything else he's done is a stain on America's record. This what regressive lefties actually believe --- http://i.imgur.com/J1Fi0Cw.jpg http://i.imgur.com/MCC79Ov.jpg http://i.imgur.com/iEMaJl1.jpg http://i.imgur.com/grqvrr9.png <cite>ZombiePelican posted [p:884889680] in should sta... [t:75677005]...</cite> <quote><cite>Garioshi posted...</cite> <quote>The only good thing that Andrew Jackson has ever done is win the Battle of New Orleans. Literally everything else he's done is a stain on America's record.</quote> This what regressive lefties actually believe</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ChromaticAngel 08/16/17 2:25:05 PM #24:	Garioshi posted... The only good thing that Andrew Jackson has ever done is win the Battle of New Orleans. Literally everything else he's done is a stain on America's record. This is bullshit and you know it. --- https://puu.sh/tcLsT/24f4611235.png <cite>ChromaticAngel posted [p:884889742] in should sta... [t:75677005]...</cite> <quote><cite>Garioshi posted...</cite> <quote>The only good thing that Andrew Jackson has ever done is win the Battle of New Orleans. Literally everything else he's done is a stain on America's record.</quote> This is bullshit and you know it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dondre_X 08/16/17 2:27:25 PM #25:	Philoktetes posted... it wasn't genocide it was relocation it was a sad tragedy so many indians died on the trail of tears but that wasn't the goal According to my Family history, if they refused to leave they were murdered. --- Dondre...... FC:0104-4075-8605 IGN Donnell <cite>Dondre_X posted [p:884889860] in should sta... [t:75677005]...</cite> <quote><cite>Philoktetes posted...</cite> <quote>it wasn't genocide it was relocation it was a sad tragedy so many indians died on the trail of tears but that wasn't the goal</quote> According to my Family history, if they refused to leave they were murdered.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Philoktetes 08/16/17 2:28:22 PM #27:	then they shouldn't have refused to leave? --- I don't think so, Tim. ~~ Pizza Crew ~~ <cite>Philoktetes posted [p:884889923] in should sta... [t:75677005]...</cite> <quote>then they shouldn't have refused to leave?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
glitteringfairy 08/16/17 2:28:34 PM #28:	I live less than two miles from the Hermitage. Come at me bros --- "How come you can believe in God but not Bigfoot?" V-E-G-Y http://i.imgur.com/AqR3aeX.jpg http://i.imgur.com/vvuUXpp.jpg <cite>glitteringfairy posted [p:884889938] in should sta... [t:75677005]...</cite> <quote>I live less than two miles from the Hermitage. Come at me bros</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Duncanwii 08/16/17 2:28:53 PM #29:	So no one notes the fact that he ignored the Supreme Court? You don't do that. Genocide or not he deserved to be impeached for that alone. --- This is my year of Pokemon! Pokemon games I'm playing: Platinum and Black 2. <cite>Duncanwii posted [p:884889966] in should sta... [t:75677005]...</cite> <quote>So no one notes the fact that he ignored the Supreme Court? You don't do that. Genocide or not he deserved to be impeached for that alone.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Garioshi 08/16/17 2:33:54 PM #31:	Damn_Underscore posted... Absolutely the Trail of Tears is a terrible tragedy, as is the way this country treated Native Americans in general. But to act like Andrew Jackson killed these people is wrong and dishonest. Absolutely the Holocaust is a terrible tragedy, as is the way Germany treated Jews in general. But to act like Adolf Hitler killed these people is wrong and dishonest. Do you see how ridiculous you sound? --- "The only things I can trust right now are myself and this big gun." - Eric from Zero Time Dilemma http://steamcommunity.com/id/Garioshi/wishlist <cite>Garioshi posted [p:884890293] in should sta... [t:75677005]...</cite> <quote><cite>Damn_Underscore posted...</cite> <quote>Absolutely the Trail of Tears is a terrible tragedy, as is the way this country treated Native Americans in general. But to act like Andrew Jackson killed these people is wrong and dishonest.</quote> Absolutely the Holocaust is a terrible tragedy, as is the way Germany treated Jews in general. But to act like Adolf Hitler killed these people is wrong and dishonest. Do you see how ridiculous you sound?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Damn_Underscore 08/16/17 2:36:29 PM #33:	Accidentally deleted that post above: Here it is: Absolutely the Trail of Tears is a terrible tragedy, as is the way this country treated Native Americans in general. But to act like Andrew Jackson killed these people is wrong and dishonest. - And to respond to Garioshi, you are being dishonest. Please stop it. Read my post earlier ITT if you want a basic idea of the history of the Trail of Tears. --- Shenmue II = best game of all time Shenmue = 2nd best game of all time <cite>Damn_Underscore posted [p:884890452] in should sta... [t:75677005]...</cite> <quote>Accidentally deleted that post above: Here it is: Absolutely the Trail of Tears is a terrible tragedy, as is the way this country treated Native Americans in general. But to act like Andrew Jackson killed these people is wrong and dishonest. - And to respond to Garioshi, you are being dishonest. Please stop it. Read my post earlier ITT if you want a basic idea of the history of the Trail of Tears.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ChromaticAngel 08/16/17 2:45:45 PM #34:	Garioshi posted... Absolutely the Holocaust is a terrible tragedy, as is the way Germany treated Jews in general. But to act like Adolf Hitler killed these people is wrong and dishonest. Hitler relocated Jews to slave camps where they were forced to work to support the war effort of the country that enslaved them. Jackson relocated Cherokees to federally reserved land and generally didn't bother them once they got there. Hitler built an army and encouraged that army to kill Jews. Jackson did nothing, people found gold on the Cherokee land and formed independent militia to exterminate them on their own. In theory, Jackson could have turned the US military on the militia that was going to murder all the cherokees, but we'd likely be having a very different conversation about why Jackson was a horrible president today if he did. Hitler butchered his own people. The Cherokee nation was not part of the USA. It was native land that was conquered like the rest of America under any other president. --- https://puu.sh/tcLsT/24f4611235.png <cite>ChromaticAngel posted [p:884891017] in should sta... [t:75677005]...</cite> <quote><cite>Garioshi posted...</cite> <quote>Absolutely the Holocaust is a terrible tragedy, as is the way Germany treated Jews in general. But to act like Adolf Hitler killed these people is wrong and dishonest.</quote> Hitler relocated Jews to slave camps where they were forced to work to support the war effort of the country that enslaved them. Jackson relocated Cherokees to federally reserved land and generally didn't bother them once they got there. Hitler built an army and encouraged that army to kill Jews. Jackson did nothing, people found gold on the Cherokee land and formed independent militia to exterminate them on their own. In theory, Jackson could have turned the US military on the militia that was going to murder all the cherokees, but we'd likely be having a very different conversation about why Jackson was a horrible president today if he did. Hitler butchered his own people. The Cherokee nation was not part of the USA. It was native land that was conquered like the rest of America under any other president.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LittleRoyal 08/16/17 2:49:09 PM #35:	NadYobWoc posted... Damn_Underscore posted... The only thing you could criticize Andrew Jackson for as president is the Indian Removal situation, and that was a lose-lose situation. He was a war hero and did many great things as president. The one article mentions that he was a slave-owner... so were most of the Founding Fathers. "Indian removal situation" That's an interesting was to say genocide. It was very bad but not genocide and yes is sad and monstrous but literally we wouldn't be here if he didn't do that --- I-I really needed this~~ Time to stomp some faces!!! <cite>LittleRoyal posted [p:884891239] in should sta... [t:75677005]...</cite> <quote><cite>NadYobWoc posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Damn_Underscore posted...</cite> <quote>The only thing you could criticize Andrew Jackson for as president is the Indian Removal situation, and that was a lose-lose situation. He was a war hero and did many great things as president. The one article mentions that he was a slave-owner... so were most of the Founding Fathers.</quote> "Indian removal situation" That's an interesting was to say genocide.</quote> It was very bad but not genocide and yes is sad and monstrous but literally we wouldn't be here if he didn't do that</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NadYobWoc 08/16/17 3:05:12 PM #36:	LittleRoyal posted... NadYobWoc posted... Damn_Underscore posted... The only thing you could criticize Andrew Jackson for as president is the Indian Removal situation, and that was a lose-lose situation. He was a war hero and did many great things as president. The one article mentions that he was a slave-owner... so were most of the Founding Fathers. "Indian removal situation" That's an interesting was to say genocide. It was very bad but not genocide and yes is sad and monstrous but literally we wouldn't be here if he didn't do that It was genocide, and "we wouldn't be here" is a horrible justification. Also, I should clarify that I'm not saying Andrew Jackson personally committed genocide. He contributed to something that was going on before and after him. --- Cowboy Dan's a major player in the cowboy scene <cite>NadYobWoc posted [p:884892291] in should sta... [t:75677005]...</cite> <quote><cite>LittleRoyal posted...</cite> <quote><cite>NadYobWoc posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Damn_Underscore posted...</cite> <quote>The only thing you could criticize Andrew Jackson for as president is the Indian Removal situation, and that was a lose-lose situation. He was a war hero and did many great things as president. The one article mentions that he was a slave-owner... so were most of the Founding Fathers.</quote> "Indian removal situation" That's an interesting was to say genocide.</quote> It was very bad but not genocide and yes is sad and monstrous but literally we wouldn't be here if he didn't do that</quote> It was genocide, and "we wouldn't be here" is a horrible justification. Also, I should clarify that I'm not saying Andrew Jackson personally committed genocide. He contributed to something that was going on before and after him.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LittleRoyal 08/16/17 3:10:21 PM #37:	NadYobWoc posted... LittleRoyal posted... NadYobWoc posted... Damn_Underscore posted... The only thing you could criticize Andrew Jackson for as president is the Indian Removal situation, and that was a lose-lose situation. He was a war hero and did many great things as president. The one article mentions that he was a slave-owner... so were most of the Founding Fathers. "Indian removal situation" That's an interesting was to say genocide. It was very bad but not genocide and yes is sad and monstrous but literally we wouldn't be here if he didn't do that It was genocide, and "we wouldn't be here" is a horrible justification. Also, I should clarify that I'm not saying Andrew Jackson personally committed genocide. He contributed to something that was going on before and after him. I'm not saying his actions are okay, but in saying they were a vital part of our history and as far as we go as a country, yeah we may be better off with it. Sad as it is just think for a minute. --- I-I really needed this~~ Time to stomp some faces!!! <cite>LittleRoyal posted [p:884892612] in should sta... [t:75677005]...</cite> <quote><cite>NadYobWoc posted...</cite> <quote><cite>LittleRoyal posted...</cite> <quote><cite>NadYobWoc posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Damn_Underscore posted...</cite> <quote>The only thing you could criticize Andrew Jackson for as president is the Indian Removal situation, and that was a lose-lose situation. He was a war hero and did many great things as president. The one article mentions that he was a slave-owner... so were most of the Founding Fathers.</quote> "Indian removal situation" That's an interesting was to say genocide.</quote> It was very bad but not genocide and yes is sad and monstrous but literally we wouldn't be here if he didn't do that</quote> It was genocide, and "we wouldn't be here" is a horrible justification. Also, I should clarify that I'm not saying Andrew Jackson personally committed genocide. He contributed to something that was going on before and after him.</quote> I'm not saying his actions are okay, but in saying they were a vital part of our history and as far as we go as a country, yeah we may be better off with it. Sad as it is just think for a minute.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NadYobWoc 08/16/17 5:40:51 PM #38:	LittleRoyal posted... NadYobWoc posted... LittleRoyal posted... NadYobWoc posted... Damn_Underscore posted... The only thing you could criticize Andrew Jackson for as president is the Indian Removal situation, and that was a lose-lose situation. He was a war hero and did many great things as president. The one article mentions that he was a slave-owner... so were most of the Founding Fathers. "Indian removal situation" That's an interesting was to say genocide. It was very bad but not genocide and yes is sad and monstrous but literally we wouldn't be here if he didn't do that It was genocide, and "we wouldn't be here" is a horrible justification. Also, I should clarify that I'm not saying Andrew Jackson personally committed genocide. He contributed to something that was going on before and after him. I'm not saying his actions are okay, but in saying they were a vital part of our history and as far as we go as a country, yeah we may be better off with it. Sad as it is just think for a minute. lol shut the fuck up --- Cowboy Dan's a major player in the cowboy scene <cite>NadYobWoc posted [p:884901179] in should sta... [t:75677005]...</cite> <quote><cite>LittleRoyal posted...</cite> <quote><cite>NadYobWoc posted...</cite> <quote><cite>LittleRoyal posted...</cite> <quote><cite>NadYobWoc posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Damn_Underscore posted...</cite> <quote>The only thing you could criticize Andrew Jackson for as president is the Indian Removal situation, and that was a lose-lose situation. He was a war hero and did many great things as president. The one article mentions that he was a slave-owner... so were most of the Founding Fathers.</quote> "Indian removal situation" That's an interesting was to say genocide.</quote> It was very bad but not genocide and yes is sad and monstrous but literally we wouldn't be here if he didn't do that</quote> It was genocide, and "we wouldn't be here" is a horrible justification. Also, I should clarify that I'm not saying Andrew Jackson personally committed genocide. He contributed to something that was going on before and after him.</quote> I'm not saying his actions are okay, but in saying they were a vital part of our history and as far as we go as a country, yeah we may be better off with it. Sad as it is just think for a minute.</quote> lol shut the fuck up</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
nativengine 08/16/17 5:44:12 PM #39:	LittleRoyal posted... NadYobWoc posted... LittleRoyal posted... NadYobWoc posted... Damn_Underscore posted... The only thing you could criticize Andrew Jackson for as president is the Indian Removal situation, and that was a lose-lose situation. He was a war hero and did many great things as president. The one article mentions that he was a slave-owner... so were most of the Founding Fathers. "Indian removal situation" That's an interesting was to say genocide. It was very bad but not genocide and yes is sad and monstrous but literally we wouldn't be here if he didn't do that It was genocide, and "we wouldn't be here" is a horrible justification. Also, I should clarify that I'm not saying Andrew Jackson personally committed genocide. He contributed to something that was going on before and after him. I'm not saying his actions are okay, but in saying they were a vital part of our history and as far as we go as a country, yeah we may be better off with it. Sad as it is just think for a minute. Do you have any idea how bad life on most reservations is to this day? Did you know I have to file to stay Native American every 4 years? That's right, we expire being Indians. <cite>nativengine posted [p:884901384] in should sta... [t:75677005]...</cite> <quote><cite>LittleRoyal posted...</cite> <quote><cite>NadYobWoc posted...</cite> <quote><cite>LittleRoyal posted...</cite> <quote><cite>NadYobWoc posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Damn_Underscore posted...</cite> <quote>The only thing you could criticize Andrew Jackson for as president is the Indian Removal situation, and that was a lose-lose situation. He was a war hero and did many great things as president. The one article mentions that he was a slave-owner... so were most of the Founding Fathers.</quote> "Indian removal situation" That's an interesting was to say genocide.</quote> It was very bad but not genocide and yes is sad and monstrous but literally we wouldn't be here if he didn't do that</quote> It was genocide, and "we wouldn't be here" is a horrible justification. Also, I should clarify that I'm not saying Andrew Jackson personally committed genocide. He contributed to something that was going on before and after him.</quote> I'm not saying his actions are okay, but in saying they were a vital part of our history and as far as we go as a country, yeah we may be better off with it. Sad as it is just think for a minute.</quote> Do you have any idea how bad life on most reservations is to this day? Did you know I have to file to stay Native American every 4 years? That's right, we expire being Indians.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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