Current Events > Trump: Racism is evil

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So are all you butthurt liberals content now? I doubt it. inb4complaints
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Here's what they'll say:

"He called himself evil!"
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He should have denounced it before it happened.
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Were_Wyrm posted...

He should have denounced it before it happened.

lol I knew you guys would find something to bitch about.
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Marco Rubio is a butthurt liberal.
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Wow, he took such a brave stand. No other president would dare call racism evil.
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Mernardi posted...

Wow, he took such a brave stand. No other president would dare call racism evil.

He's definitely not pandering either. Nope. Definitely not
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I'm content. :u yes. I'm glad he finally addressed the issue by name. He probably had Steve Bannon groveling at his feet not to condemn his brothers like that, but he did it anyway. Good on you Trump.
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Gojak_v3 posted...

Were_Wyrm posted...

He should have denounced it before it happened.

lol I knew you guys would find something to bitch about.

That was always the complaint. Everyone knew some campaign advisor would get through to him eventually and he'd read some speech about it.

People were upset he had to be convinced to do it. You can't erase the past. Your actions have consequences, even when you flip flop on everything.
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Mernardi posted...

Wow, he took such a brave stand. No other president would dare call racism evil.

So first you bitch about him not saying anything, and when he does say something, you still complain.
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This is a pretty shallow and disingenuous take on the subject matter. Liberals wanted an unequivocal condemnation of Saturday's events, but sooner than the Monday proceeding the affair. There's an entire topic devote to the subject; why don't you go read it?

Caution999 posted...

Mernardi posted...

Wow, he took such a brave stand. No other president would dare call racism evil.

So first you bitch about him not saying anything, and when he does say something, you still complain.

Did... did you forget about that topic? The one where you spent hours conversing and absorbing WHY people are still upset?
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Also Trump: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/08/14/trump-seriously-considering-pardon-for-sheriff-joe-arpaio.html
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Caution999 posted...

Mernardi posted...

Wow, he took such a brave stand. No other president would dare call racism evil.

So first you bitch about him not saying anything, and when he does say something, you still complain.

I'm just stating that a president shouldn't be pressured into saying racism is evil.

And I personally don't care. I'm just pointing out how ridiculous this topic is.
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This whole thing is ridiculous. The only thing that we should be focusing on are the radicals in this country that use violence.

Instead it turns into a Trump issue.
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Caution999 posted...

Mernardi posted...

Wow, he took such a brave stand. No other president would dare call racism evil.

So first you bitch about him not saying anything, and when he does say something, you still complain.

It's the same thing about Trump's tweets. If he doesn't tweet he's a bad person, if he does tweet he's a bad person. It's a funny site to see.
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Caution999 posted...

This whole thing is ridiculous. The only thing that we should be focusing on are the radicals in this country that use violence.

Instead it turns into a Trump issue.

The people that use violence can be handled at a local level with the courts and justice. You can't arrest and prosecute an idea, though. The idea is the problem, and Trump is part of it.

WameisJinston posted...

Caution999 posted...

Mernardi posted...

Wow, he took such a brave stand. No other president would dare call racism evil.

So first you bitch about him not saying anything, and when he does say something, you still complain.

It's the same thing about Trump's tweets. If he doesn't tweet he's a bad person, if he does tweet he's a bad person. It's a funny site to see.

If he didn't tweet with such regularity and establish a pattern of behaviour, we wouldn't notice when he does something so completely out of character to the rest of his tweets.
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Caution999 posted...

This whole thing is ridiculous. The only thing that we should be focusing on are the radicals in this country that use violence.

Instead it turns into a Trump issue.

He could act like a normal person and everyone wouldn't need to complain about him suddenly swallowing his tongue after a Nazi rally terror attack.
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Ok, shall we arrest Bernie Sanders for spreading the radicalized notions that Antifa believe too?

This is absurd.
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The Deadpool posted...

Gojak_v3 posted...

Were_Wyrm posted...

He should have denounced it before it happened.

lol I knew you guys would find something to bitch about.

That was always the complaint. Everyone knew some campaign advisor would get through to him eventually and he'd read some speech about it.

People were upset he had to be convinced to do it. You can't erase the past. Your actions have consequences, even when you flip flop on everything.

I don't think he had to be convinced to do anything. It's completely understandable how distraught everyone is, but Trump has always kind of taken his time to craft his words carefully when responding to serious situations. The idea that he had to be pressured into it is ridiculous.
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Caution999 posted...

Ok, shall we arrest Bernie Sanders for spreading the radicalized notions that Antifa believe too?

This is absurd.

Wheee, more deflecting. People are allowed to be unmitigated shitlords across all specturms. It's not an either/or situation. They aren't mutually exclusive.
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You know what this comes down to? Personal responsibility for one's actions.

It's time people stop using scapegoats to explain their actions. These radicalized people made a personal choice and you can't blame another figure-head which does not agree with their use of violence.

You make your bed in this country and then you gotta sleep in that bed.
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WameisJinston posted...

Caution999 posted...

Mernardi posted...

Wow, he took such a brave stand. No other president would dare call racism evil.

So first you bitch about him not saying anything, and when he does say something, you still complain.

It's the same thing about Trump's tweets. If he doesn't tweet he's a bad person, if he does tweet he's a bad person. It's a funny site to see.

"It's great that Trump doesn't take crap from anyone and tells it like it is unlike other loser politicians. This terror attack though? Vague statements about everyone needing to start loving each other are perfectly acceptable."
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He didn't specifically say what racism! And he took too long to say it!
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Caution999 posted...

You know what this comes down to? Personal responsibility for one's actions.

It's time people stop using scapegoats to explain their actions. These radicalized people made a personal choice and you can't blame another figure-head which does not agree with their use of violence.

You make your bed in this country and then you gotta sleep in that bed.

All true, but this isn't even part of the current conversation. People are upset because Trump took so long to issue an unequivocal takedown of what happened on Saturday. They were already upset at the people who were already at the rally doing these things.
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DifferentialEquation posted...

Trump has always kind of taken his time to craft his words carefully when responding to serious situations.

can someone sig this
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DifferentialEquation posted...

but Trump has always kind of taken his time to craft his words carefully when responding to serious situations.

you're making yourself a little too obvious when you take it this far.
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Alucard188 posted...

This is a pretty shallow and disingenuous take on the subject matter. Liberals wanted an unequivocal condemnation of Saturday's events, but sooner than the Monday proceeding the affair. There's an entire topic devote to the subject; why don't you go read it?

When are liberals going to give an unequivocal condemnation for Antifa and BLM for doing the following:
Pepper spraying people unprovoked
Throwing water bottles and water balloons filled with shit, piss, and paint inside them.
Going after people with aerosol flamethrowers
Throwing smoke bombs into a crowd
?
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BillyKidd posted...

Alucard188 posted...

This is a pretty shallow and disingenuous take on the subject matter. Liberals wanted an unequivocal condemnation of Saturday's events, but sooner than the Monday proceeding the affair. There's an entire topic devote to the subject; why don't you go read it?

When are liberals going to give an unequivocal condemnation for Antifa and BLM for doing the following:
Pepper spraying people unprovoked
Throwing water bottles and water balloons filled with shit, piss, and paint inside them.
Going after people with aerosol flamethrowers
Throwing smoke bombs into a crowd
?

If you can't find the difference between radicals taking things too far (which should be called out on) and an ideology that races other than white should be killed, I feel sorry for you.
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BillyKidd posted...

When are liberals going to give an unequivocal condemnation for Antifa and BLM for doing the following:
Pepper spraying people unprovoked
Throwing water bottles and water balloons filled with shit, piss, and paint inside them.
Going after people with aerosol flamethrowers
Throwing smoke bombs into a crowd
?

Never because it's not our jobs.

Caution999 posted...

You know what this comes down to? Personal responsibility for one's actions.

You probably won't believe me, but honestly hope you remember this when you try to associate all Muslims with radicals, all protesters with BLM or ANTIFA, and all liberals with SJWs.

Honestly
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It's more than just "you liberals"...try the entire sane world.
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When the hell have I grouped in all Muslims with the radical Muslims?

That's why I always specify Radical Muslims. I understand you guys hate my guts, but good lord. I have never grouped in Muslims as an entire entity as being terrorists.
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BillyKidd posted...

Alucard188 posted...

This is a pretty shallow and disingenuous take on the subject matter. Liberals wanted an unequivocal condemnation of Saturday's events, but sooner than the Monday proceeding the affair. There's an entire topic devote to the subject; why don't you go read it?

When are liberals going to give an unequivocal condemnation for Antifa and BLM for doing the following:
Pepper spraying people unprovoked
Throwing water bottles and water balloons filled with shit, piss, and paint inside them.
Going after people with aerosol flamethrowers
Throwing smoke bombs into a crowd
?

Yay, more deflections. One wrong doesn't mitigate or absolve the other wrong. Honestly, address the issue instead of always going "Yeah, but...".
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Mernardi posted...

BillyKidd posted...

Alucard188 posted...

This is a pretty shallow and disingenuous take on the subject matter. Liberals wanted an unequivocal condemnation of Saturday's events, but sooner than the Monday proceeding the affair. There's an entire topic devote to the subject; why don't you go read it?

When are liberals going to give an unequivocal condemnation for Antifa and BLM for doing the following:
Pepper spraying people unprovoked
Throwing water bottles and water balloons filled with shit, piss, and paint inside them.
Going after people with aerosol flamethrowers
Throwing smoke bombs into a crowd
?

If you can't find the difference between radicals taking things too far (which should be called out on) and an ideology that races other than white should be killed, I feel sorry for you.

where did i say that? oh that's right, i didn't. C+ for the effort tho.
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Alucard188 posted...

BillyKidd posted...

Alucard188 posted...

This is a pretty shallow and disingenuous take on the subject matter. Liberals wanted an unequivocal condemnation of Saturday's events, but sooner than the Monday proceeding the affair. There's an entire topic devote to the subject; why don't you go read it?

When are liberals going to give an unequivocal condemnation for Antifa and BLM for doing the following:
Pepper spraying people unprovoked
Throwing water bottles and water balloons filled with shit, piss, and paint inside them.
Going after people with aerosol flamethrowers
Throwing smoke bombs into a crowd
?

Yay, more deflections. One wrong doesn't mitigate or absolve the other wrong. Honestly, address the issue instead of always going "Yeah, but...".

The ONE guy that drove his car into a group of people was a piece of shit. No deflection. The DOZENS of people slinging their poo around like a wild monkey are also pieces of shit.

You want a man who has denounced, disavowed, and condemned white supremacists DOZENS of times before he was even president to do it again, for what? ONE GUY being an evil asshole. Meanwhile, liberals have all these violent assholes representing them and they refuse to denounce what they are doing. Who's the one deflecting?
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Giant_Aspirin posted...

DifferentialEquation posted...

but Trump has always kind of taken his time to craft his words carefully when responding to serious situations.

you're making yourself a little too obvious when you take it this far.

I said serious situations. I know that Trump is quick to fire off a tweet when he hears something he doesn't like from Hillary or Obama, for example. But the types of situations where he does impulse tweet aren't comparable to this.
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BillyKidd posted...

The ONE guy that drove his car into a group of people was a piece of shit. No deflection. The DOZENS of people slinging their poo around like a wild monkey are also pieces of shit.

You want a man who has denounced, disavowed, and condemned white supremacists DOZENS of times before he was even president to do it again, for what? ONE GUY being an evil asshole. Meanwhile, liberals have all these violent assholes representing them and they refuse to denounce what they are doing. Who's the one deflecting?

I hadn't realised that all Liberals had the same moral authority and responsibility that the President of the United States does. You know damn well that this weekend's problems were started far before the "One guy being an evil asshole" bit. The President of Moral Authority took to Twitter after each other major tragic loss of life on American soil to be unequivocal about its condemnation and impact much sooner than he did this one, so what's so different about this one? He denounced and disavowed it before, right? Why does he need to keep doing it then?

DifferentialEquation posted...

I said serious situations. I know that Trump is quick to fire off a tweet when he hears something he doesn't like from Hillary or Obama, for example. But the types of situations where he does impulse tweet aren't comparable to this.

How quickly did he tweet out after the Orlando nightclub shooting? Seems like a pretty serious situation to me. Did he take time to formulate and process his words properly?
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Alucard188 posted...

This is a pretty shallow and disingenuous take on the subject matter.

What's shallow and disingenuous was the hysteria over the weekend when he condemned the violence on all sides and liberals somehow twisted that into mean not the nazis/racists.
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Gojak_v3 posted...

Alucard188 posted...

This is a pretty shallow and disingenuous take on the subject matter.

What's shallow and disingenuous was the hysteria over the weekend when he condemned the violence on all sides and liberals somehow twisted that into mean not the nazis/racists.

The people from the Daily Stormer took it as Trump not condemning them for the weekend, either. That's what happens when you make lukewarm and milquetoast statements about something.

https://twitter.com/BryanDawsonUSA/status/897115666267897858
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Why you nipping on liberals balls sack. lol Trump sucks, get used to it.
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Trump is a clown of a President. It doesn't matter what he spews from his mouth.
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faizan_faizan posted...

Trump is a clown of a President. It doesn't matter what he spews from his mouth.

Which in a way is sorta the point. He condemned all sides of the violence but that didn't matter to a lot of you. Nothing will ever be good enough for you. Case in point the level of bitching in this topic.
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Gojak_v3 posted...

He condemned all sides of the violence

http://c.o0bg.com/rf/image_960w/Boston/2011-2020/2017/08/14/BostonGlobe.com/Politics/Images/wasserman-1992.jpg
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Better late then never.
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Gojak_v3 posted...

Alucard188 posted...

This is a pretty shallow and disingenuous take on the subject matter.

What's shallow and disingenuous was the hysteria over the weekend when he condemned the violence on all sides and liberals somehow twisted that into mean not the nazis/racists.

The well known liberal hardline Republican congressmen.
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Caution999 posted...

That's why I always specify Radical Muslims. I understand you guys hate my guts, but good lord. I have never grouped in Muslims as an entire entity as being terrorists.

And for the rest of those statements? You clamming the Dallas shooter was a member and representative of BLM? Or the victim of that vicious attack in Chicago, despite police and the FBI saying there was zero evidence of them being involved? Look, if you really want to practice this whole "I don't associate the extremists with the whole" it has to cross all lines and you can't pick and choose. Both the alt-right neo nazis and antifa both suck and don't represent their side as a whole. The reason Trump is taking heat from this, on BOTH sides, is because for supposedly having such a heavy hand he pussy footed around and didn't give a declarative statement. If he really wanted to trash both sides he could have easily named them both by name. And instead he didn't, and you had the neo nazi side actually celebrate his words and claim "he wasn't attacking us at all and he appreciated us!".

If you don't see how he fucked his whole reaction up there's really not much else that can be said.
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