Current Events > Big NY donor calls black Democrat worse for black people than the KKK

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Specifically, because she opposes charter schools
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/10/nyregion/democrats-new-york-blacks.html

The hedge fund manager Daniel S. Loeb, a prominent supporter of charter schools and a major financial backer of Gov. Andrew M. Cuomo and congressional Republicans, accused the African-American woman who leads the Democrats in the New York State Senate of having done “more damage to people of color than anyone who has ever donned a hood.”

Mr. Loeb made the reference, apparently to the Ku Klux Klan, in a posting on Facebook in response to an article in The New York Times this week in which the Democratic leader, Senator Andrea Stewart-Cousins, confronted Mr. Cuomo about prejudging her based upon race and gender.

In a private meeting last month, The Times reported, Ms. Stewart-Cousins said to Mr. Cuomo during a debate over who best understands suburban voters: “You look at me, Mr. Governor, but you don’t see me. You see my black skin and a woman, but you don’t realize I am a suburban legislator.”

Mr. Loeb weighed in on behalf of Senator Jeffrey D. Klein of the Bronx, the leader of a group of Democrats that has split from Ms. Stewart-Cousins.

“Thank God for Jeff Klein and those who stand for educational choice and support Charter funding that leads to economic mobility and opportunity for poor knack kids,” Mr. Loeb wrote, with “knack” apparently a typographical error for “black.” “Meanwhile hypocrites like Stewart-Cousins who pay fealty to powerful union thugs and bosses do more damage to people of color than anyone who has ever donned a hood.”

After The Times reported on his Facebook remarks, Mr. Loeb deleted them late Thursday night.

“I regret the language I used in expressing my passion for educational choice,” he said in a statement. “I apologize to Senator Stewart-Cousins and anyone I offended. I have taken down the post from Facebook.”

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I literally can't think of any positive things about charter school programs.
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Racist millionaire republicans continue to be racist, More at 11
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Antifar posted...

opportunity for poor knack kids

We do need to help poor Knack kids. They don't know good games.
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OpheliaAdenade posted...

I literally can't think of any positive things about charter school programs.

As a teacher, there is some merit in having let restrictions on your instruction, but that's about the extent of the benefits of some charters
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It's interesting how this narrative has started playing out in the last couple of years or so. The big one of course being Trump asking black people "What have you got to lose [by voting for me]?"
It's not like Democrats have been amazing for black people, but they've generally been better than Republicans have been.

If this is how Republicans plan to get black voters, I don't see why it'd actually work. Much better would be to actually appeal to the conservative religious types, of which many make up the black community.
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The democrats have been horrible for black people. I see his point.
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UncleBourbon33 posted...

The democrats have been horrible for black people. I see his point.

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UnfairRepresent posted...

UncleBourbon33 posted...

The democrats have been horrible for black people. I see his point.

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OpheliaAdenade posted...

I literally can't think of any positive things about charter school programs.

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Antifar posted...

The hedge fund manager Daniel S. Loeb, a prominent supporter of charter schools and a major financial backer of Gov. Andrew M. Cuomo and congressional Republicans, accused the African-American woman who leads the Democrats in the New York State Senate of having done “more damage to people of color than anyone who has ever donned a hood.”

Why do republicans and people who back them always say the dumbest shit. Every ridiculous statement that comes out of politicians mouths such as "Women's bodies shut down when legitimately raped so they won't have a baby" or "Maybe cooperating with ISIS is a good thing" can be traced back to a republican

UncleBourbon33 posted...

The democrats have been horrible for black people. I see his point.

the GOP has ran the country for the past two decades
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This whole weird thing the alt-right/conservatives are spewing "Dems are racist and their economic programs keep minorities in crappy life situations on purpose" is one of the more mind-boggling things I've seen
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coolboy11 posted...

UncleBourbon33 posted...

The democrats have been horrible for black people. I see his point.

the GOP has ran the country for the past two decades

matter of fact outside of NY Maryland and Illinois, every other state with a huge black population is solidly in the hands of the GOP, why can't they you know run better programs in most of the black heartland to improve the lives of large swathes of black folks?
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Taught at a charter.

Mismanaged and seemed to exist just to suck funding. Less benefits than public school. I taught with an emergency credential despite no teaching experience because they were desperate for a science teacher.

Got me to drop out of teaching and return to engineering.

coolboy11 posted...

UncleBourbon33 posted...

The democrats have been horrible for black people. I see his point.

the GOP has ran the country for the past two decades

Longer than that. Almost 4
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Doom_Art posted...

This whole weird thing the alt-right/conservatives are spewing "Dems are racist and their economic programs keep minorities in crappy life situations on purpose" is one of the more mind-boggling things I've seen

Especially when a majority of the black population live in red states.
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Doom_Art posted...

coolboy11 posted...

UncleBourbon33 posted...

The democrats have been horrible for black people. I see his point.

the GOP has ran the country for the past two decades

Longer than that. Almost 4

this is somewhat disputable in the 70's and 80's legislatures at the state level were still largely Dem though large swathes of those wings were pretty damn right wing.
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UncleBourbon33 posted...

The democrats have been horrible for black people. I see his point.

This. Dems have made things far worse for minorities.
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coolboy11 posted...

UncleBourbon33 posted...

The democrats have been horrible for black people. I see his point.

the GOP has ran the country for the past two decades

Who has been running the high-population black cities for the past five decades
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Mal_Fet posted...

Who has been running the high-population black cities for the past five decades

Detroit, MI
Jackson, MS
Miami Gardens, FL
Birmingham, AL
Baltimore, MD
Memphis, TN
New Orleans, LA
Flint, MI
Montgomery, AL
Savannah, GA

Lookin pretty red to me
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Doom_Art posted...

Mal_Fet posted...

Who has been running the high-population black cities for the past five decades

Detroit, MI
Jackson, MS
Miami Gardens, FL
Birmingham, AL
Baltimore, MD
Memphis, TN
New Orleans, LA
Flint, MI
Montgomery, AL
Savannah, GA

Lookin pretty red to me

All of those cities are at least heavily Democrat...

And the poorest, most violent cities are permanently Democrat
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Mal_Fet posted...

All of those cities are at least heavily Democrat...

Most of which are in heavily red states.
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Also it's rather telling that Mal's opinion of black people is such that he believes a significant portion of them are "too stupid" to recognize such an obvious con by Democrats
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Doom_Art posted...

Also it's rather telling that Mal's opinion of black people is such that he believes a significant portion of them are "too stupid" to recognize such an obvious con by Democrats

That Baltimore topic made his opinion on black people quite clear

Axiom posted...

That Baltimore topic made his opinion on black people quite clear

Summary?
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Doom_Art posted...

Mal_Fet posted...

All of those cities are at least heavily Democrat...

Most of which are in heavily red states.

Is all the poverty and violence in, say, Louisiana coming from the red parts of the state, or is it all coming out of New Orleans?

Ditto for Detroit in Michigan, Birmingham in Alabama, etc.
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Doom_Art posted...

Also it's rather telling that Mal's opinion of black people is such that he believes a significant portion of them are "too stupid" to recognize such an obvious con by Democrats

Don't be like that, you fell for the Democrats' lies too.
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Mal_Fet posted...

Is all the poverty and violence in, say, Louisiana coming from the red parts of the state, or is it all coming out of New Orleans?

Most of Louisiana is a shitshow, yes

Ditto for Alabama

I'd argue they're worse tbh

Rural Michigan is also depressing
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Mal_Fet posted...

Don't be like that, you fell for the Democrats' lies too.

I like how ya didn't deny it :P
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Doom_Art posted...

Mal_Fet posted...

Is all the poverty and violence in, say, Louisiana coming from the red parts of the state, or is it all coming out of New Orleans?

Most of Louisiana is a shitshow, yes

Ditto for Alabama

I'd argue they're worse tbh

Rural Michigan is also depressing

And yet the extreme poverty, wealth disparity, and crime are all centralized in the Democrat cities within the red states.

Weird, huh?
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Doom_Art posted...

Axiom posted...

That Baltimore topic made his opinion on black people quite clear

Summary?

I didn't read anything more than OP and the very last posts which was a mess of blaming black people for the state it's in. One guy got suspended for saying how much he hated black people and eventually the topic got deleted for whatever reason

Doom_Art posted...

Mal_Fet posted...

Don't be like that, you fell for the Democrats' lies too.

I like how ya didn't deny it :P

He also said the red areas were the economic areas of blue states. Lol. Mal has no idea what he's talking about and he never learns nor grows up

CruelBuffalo posted...

He also said the red areas were the economic areas of blue states.

Nooo, I said that the poverty is in blue areas, not red areas.

You gotta learn to read.
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Mal_Fet posted...

I said that the poverty is in blue areas, not red areas

Poverty is in red areas though. Hence why it's awash with drugs, inequality, and brain drain.

decades of mismanagement by the GOP will do that to you
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If Republicans stood up for African Americans, African Americans would vote for them.

There doesn't seem to be much to the Republican platform other than contempt for the "other" these days though, I'm afraid.

Glass_Phantom posted...

If Republicans stood up for African Americans, African Americans would vote for them.

Noooo it's clearly because they're brainwashed or too stupid to realize that Democrats are keeping them in a lesser life position for reasons.

Glass_Phantom posted...

There doesn't seem to be much to the Republican platform other than contempt for the "other" these days though, I'm afraid.

Honestly, it's simply a lack of care or acknowledgement.
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I think it's funny that people will talk about how the left are the real racists and don't care about black people, but no one ever explains how the right is better for them or any solutions at all. Are we just pointing out both sides are bad or what? Is that supposed to be a win for Republicans?
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Doom_Art posted...

Noooo it's clearly because they're brainwashed or too stupid to realize that Democrats are keeping them in a lesser life position for reasons.

They can't help they aren't as strong willed as Mal. Few people can break free of liberal brainwashing like he.
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hockeybub89 posted...

I think it's funny that people will talk about how the left are the real racists and don't care about black people, but no one ever explains how the right is better for them or any solutions at all. Are we just pointing out both sides are bad or what? Is that supposed to be a win for Republicans?

You can't have made a mistake if you've never done anything at all
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Doom_Art posted...

Poverty is in red areas though. Hence why it's awash with drugs, inequality, and brain drain.

Are you actually suggesting that rural areas have high crime and wealth inequality?

Dude go look up "US cities most crime" or "cities most wealth inequality". They're ALL democrat hubs.
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Mal_Fet posted...

Are you actually suggesting that rural areas have high crime and wealth inequality?

Yes?

I'd maybe concede on crime, but I'd absolutely make the argument towards poverty, inequality, brain drain, and drug use.
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As a teacher you can make far more money at a charter school, but practically zero job security and benefits.

It's all about generating profits, they're no different than a for profit higher educational "college".
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Hilarious how all the people who have no interest in sympathizing with black people and will go out of their way to denigrate things that are black interests, and who all seem to coincidentally side with Republican side of arguments seem to think they have a clue on the minority experience, let alone how the laws that are passed have been argued or voted.
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Democrats' economic and social policies have been terrible for black people, and gradually, everyone else. The writings of Thomas Sowell are a great start on this matter.
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Doom_Art posted...

This whole weird thing the alt-right/conservatives are spewing "Dems are racist and their economic programs keep minorities in crappy life situations on purpose" is one of the more mind-boggling things I've seen

Well yeah that's stupid, but the Democrats have joined the Republicans to pass awful conservative legislation that actually HAS disproportionately hurt minorities in the past.
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This topic and the arguments in it are, uh, interesting in light of the rally last night in Virginia.
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"You look at me, Mr. Governor, but you don’t see me. You see my black skin and a woman, but you don’t realize I am a suburban legislator.”

Yeah she sounds like a total bitch. Fuck race baiters. Cuomo is as liberal as they come.
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Antifar posted...

This topic and the arguments in it are, uh, interesting in light of the rally last night in Virginia.

please clarify with an actual argument
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daftpunk_mk5 posted...

Cuomo is as liberal as they come.

So liberal he wants to take pensions and annuities AWAY from blue collar/middle class workers.
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