Current Events > Remember how we used to pretend Indonesia was a moderate Islamic country?

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Callixtus 08/10/17 4:34:50 PM #1:	A 100-foot statue depicting a Chinese deity was covered with an enormous sheet this past weekend in East Java Province, Indonesia, after Muslims threatened to tear the colossus down amid mounting ethnic and religious tensions across the country. The Islamist campaign against the statue, a depiction of the third-century general Guan Yu, who is worshiped as a god in several Chinese religions, began online and soon spread to the gates of a Chinese Confucian temple in Tuban, near the Java Sea coast, where the figure was erected last month. On social media, Muslims assailed the statue as an “uncivilized” affront to Islam and the island’s “home people,” and a mob gathered this week outside the East Java legislature in the city of Surabaya to demand its destruction. Statues deemed un-Islamic have been destroyed or vandalized around Indonesia in recent years, and several Chinese temples have been set on fire. Covering the statue with a large white tarp was a stopgap measure proposed by the temple’s officials after a governmental religious body pushed them to find a solution. Read more: https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/10/world/asia/indonesia-chinese-statue-islam-muslims-protest-guan-yu.html --- KhanofKhans, KhanJohnson, Saloonist, Basileos <cite>Callixtus posted [p:884540362] in Remember h... [t:75657728]...</cite> <quote><quote>A 100-foot statue depicting a Chinese deity was covered with an enormous sheet this past weekend in East Java Province, Indonesia, after Muslims threatened to tear the colossus down amid mounting ethnic and religious tensions across the country. The Islamist campaign against the statue, a depiction of the third-century general Guan Yu, who is worshiped as a god in several Chinese religions, began online and soon spread to the gates of a Chinese Confucian temple in Tuban, near the Java Sea coast, where the figure was erected last month. On social media, Muslims assailed the statue as an “uncivilized” affront to Islam and the island’s “home people,” and a mob gathered this week outside the East Java legislature in the city of Surabaya to demand its destruction. Statues deemed un-Islamic have been destroyed or vandalized around Indonesia in recent years, and several Chinese temples have been set on fire. Covering the statue with a large white tarp was a stopgap measure proposed by the temple’s officials after a governmental religious body pushed them to find a solution.</quote> Read more: https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/10/world/asia/indonesia-chinese-statue-islam-muslims-protest-guan-yu.html</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
YourAlt 08/10/17 4:37:40 PM #2:	Gaun Yu kicks ass in Destiny Of An Emperor, Dynasty Tactics, and Romance Of The Three Kingdoms --- AMP Currently playing: Tokyo Mirage Sessions #FE, Final Fantasy 15, Breath Of The Wild, Overwatch <cite>YourAlt posted [p:884540510] in Remember h... [t:75657728]...</cite> <quote>Gaun Yu kicks ass in Destiny Of An Emperor, Dynasty Tactics, and Romance Of The Three Kingdoms</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Anarchy_Juiblex 08/10/17 4:40:02 PM #3:	Reza Aslan =/= we No one that isn't an ignorant and dishonest fool would make that claim. --- "Tolerance of intolerance is cowardice." ~ Ayaan Hirsi Ali <cite>Anarchy_Juiblex posted [p:884540629] in Remember h... [t:75657728]...</cite> <quote>Reza Aslan =/= we No one that isn't an ignorant and dishonest fool would make that claim.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ThePrinceFish 08/10/17 4:41:04 PM #5:	I visited a Chinese Buddhist temple last semester and it had an awesome statue of Gaun Yu guarding the front gates. --- Dielman on Rivers: "I've tried to get him to say s--- or f--- and all he'll ever do is say, 'Golly gee, I can't do that." <cite>ThePrinceFish posted [p:884540687] in Remember h... [t:75657728]...</cite> <quote>I visited a Chinese Buddhist temple last semester and it had an awesome statue of Gaun Yu guarding the front gates.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Callixtus 08/10/17 4:41:13 PM #6:	Anarchy_Juiblex posted... Reza Aslan =/= we No one that isn't an ignorant and dishonest fool would make that claim. 10 to 15 years ago it was a credible claim --- KhanofKhans, KhanJohnson, Saloonist, Basileos <cite>Callixtus posted [p:884540696] in Remember h... [t:75657728]...</cite> <quote><cite>Anarchy_Juiblex posted...</cite> <quote>Reza Aslan =/= we No one that isn't an ignorant and dishonest fool would make that claim.</quote> 10 to 15 years ago it was a credible claim</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Axiom 08/10/17 4:41:33 PM #7:	I don't remember this at all <cite>Axiom posted [p:884540713] in Remember h... [t:75657728]...</cite> <quote>I don't remember this at all</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Callixtus 08/10/17 4:43:14 PM #8:	Axiom posted... I don't remember this at all People still claiming this today: http://www.cnn.com/2017/04/20/politics/mike-pence-indonesia-islam/index.html --- KhanofKhans, KhanJohnson, Saloonist, Basileos <cite>Callixtus posted [p:884540792] in Remember h... [t:75657728]...</cite> <quote><cite>Axiom posted...</cite> <quote>I don't remember this at all</quote> People still claiming this today: http://www.cnn.com/2017/04/20/politics/mike-pence-indonesia-islam/index.html</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Admiral 08/10/17 4:43:32 PM #9:	Axiom posted... I don't remember this at all If you want to know if Islam, democracy, modernity and women’s rights can coexist, go to Indonesia. Guess who said it? ~~http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/19/washington/19diplo.html~~ --- - The Admiral <cite>The Admiral posted [p:884540807] in Remember h... [t:75657728]...</cite> <quote><cite>Axiom posted...</cite> <quote>I don't remember this at all</quote> <quote>If you want to know if Islam, democracy, modernity and women’s rights can coexist, go to Indonesia.</quote> Guess who said it? http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/19/washington/19diplo.html</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Axiom 08/10/17 4:45:46 PM #10:	Callixtus posted... http://www.cnn.com/2017/04/20/politics/mike-pence-indonesia-islam/index.html I am extremely confused right now <cite>Axiom posted [p:884540936] in Remember h... [t:75657728]...</cite> <quote><cite>Callixtus posted...</cite> <quote>http://www.cnn.com/2017/04/20/politics/mike-pence-indonesia-islam/index.html</quote> I am extremely confused right now</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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darkphoenix181 08/10/17 4:48:29 PM #12:	guess they wanted puts on glasses yu guan --- sigless user is me or am I? <cite>darkphoenix181 posted [p:884541087] in Remember h... [t:75657728]...</cite> <quote>guess they wanted puts on glasses yu guan</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
s0nicfan 08/10/17 4:49:03 PM #13:	There isn't a single truly civilized Islamic majority country. The "very best" examples we can find are simply not complete hellholes but still have awful human rights records, and they produce nothing of value to the rest of the world in terms of science or engineering. The fact the Indonesia was ever being held up as an example of what "good" Islam looks like is laughable and tells you everything you need to know about the religion. --- "History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz <cite>s0nicfan posted [p:884541118] in Remember h... [t:75657728]...</cite> <quote>There isn't a single truly civilized Islamic majority country. The "very best" examples we can find are simply not complete hellholes but still have awful human rights records, and they produce nothing of value to the rest of the world in terms of science or engineering. The fact the Indonesia was ever being held up as an example of what "good" Islam looks like is laughable and tells you everything you need to know about the religion.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Callixtus 08/10/17 4:51:00 PM #14:	-Gavirulax- posted... Mike Pence is a religious idiot, he would like how Islam completely dictates that country. As Addy's link shows, this is a bipartisan illusion. --- KhanofKhans, KhanJohnson, Saloonist, Basileos <cite>Callixtus posted [p:884541258] in Remember h... [t:75657728]...</cite> <quote><cite>-Gavirulax- posted...</cite> <quote>Mike Pence is a religious idiot, he would like how Islam completely dictates that country.</quote> As Addy's link shows, this is a bipartisan illusion.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mal_Fet 08/10/17 4:53:13 PM #15:	Every leftist airhead who defends Islam on Bill Maher also uses Indonesia to defend Islam. --- Freedom is the right to tell people what they do not want to hear. -George Orwell <cite>Mal_Fet posted [p:884541398] in Remember h... [t:75657728]...</cite> <quote>Every leftist airhead who defends Islam on Bill Maher also uses Indonesia to defend Islam.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Looked gf 08/10/17 4:53:59 PM #16:	darkphoenix181 posted... guess they wanted puts on glasses yu guan >< --- http://i.imgur.com/otLaOxa.gifv <cite>Looked gf posted [p:884541452] in Remember h... [t:75657728]...</cite> <quote><cite>darkphoenix181 posted...</cite> <quote>guess they wanted puts on glasses yu guan</quote> ><</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Axiom 08/10/17 4:54:35 PM #17:	-Gavirulax- posted... Mike Pence is a religious idiot, he would like how Islam completely dictates that country. Yeah that makes sense but it's wild seeing the VP of an administration that has taken such a hardline towards muslims praise any kind of Islam <cite>Axiom posted [p:884541496] in Remember h... [t:75657728]...</cite> <quote><cite>-Gavirulax- posted...</cite> <quote>Mike Pence is a religious idiot, he would like how Islam completely dictates that country.</quote> Yeah that makes sense but it's wild seeing the VP of an administration that has taken such a hardline towards muslims praise any kind of Islam</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Balrog0 08/10/17 4:55:04 PM #18:	does this incident show it isnt? --- He would make his mark, if not on this tree, then on that wall; if not with teeth and claws, then with penknife and razor. <cite>Balrog0 posted [p:884541527] in Remember h... [t:75657728]...</cite> <quote>does this incident show it isnt?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
VectorChaos 08/10/17 4:55:07 PM #19:	darkphoenix181 posted... guess they wanted puts on glasses yu guan YEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAHH! --- PSN VectorChaos http://i.imgur.com/ftMERkZ.jpg XBL Vector Chaos http://i.imgur.com/10hWZ95.png http://i.imgur.com/MZMOLx0.jpg http://i.imgur.com/R2jRl8F.jpg <cite>VectorChaos posted [p:884541530] in Remember h... [t:75657728]...</cite> <quote><cite>darkphoenix181 posted...</cite> <quote>guess they wanted puts on glasses yu guan</quote> YEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAHH!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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iPhone_7 08/10/17 5:01:17 PM #21:	The Admiral posted... Axiom posted... I don't remember this at all If you want to know if Islam, democracy, modernity and women’s rights can coexist, go to Indonesia. Guess who said it? ~~http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/19/washington/19diplo.html~~ That was said in 2009. A lot has changed in recent years in that country. --- Sig User Logic http://i.imgur.com/lA5fm7w.jpg <cite>iPhone_7 posted [p:884541888] in Remember h... [t:75657728]...</cite> <quote><cite>The Admiral posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Axiom posted...</cite> <quote>I don't remember this at all</quote> <quote>If you want to know if Islam, democracy, modernity and women’s rights can coexist, go to Indonesia.</quote> Guess who said it? http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/19/washington/19diplo.html</quote> That was said in 2009. A lot has changed in recent years in that country.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkphoenix181 08/10/17 5:02:23 PM #22:	The Admiral posted... Axiom posted... I don't remember this at all If you want to know if Islam, democracy, modernity and women’s rights can coexist, go to Indonesia. Guess who said it? ~~http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/19/washington/19diplo.html~~ lmao --- sigless user is me or am I? <cite>darkphoenix181 posted [p:884541947] in Remember h... [t:75657728]...</cite> <quote><cite>The Admiral posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Axiom posted...</cite> <quote>I don't remember this at all</quote> <quote>If you want to know if Islam, democracy, modernity and women’s rights can coexist, go to Indonesia.</quote> Guess who said it? http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/19/washington/19diplo.html</quote> lmao</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bloodychess 08/10/17 5:05:14 PM #24:	iPhone_7 posted... The Admiral posted... Axiom posted... I don't remember this at all If you want to know if Islam, democracy, modernity and women’s rights can coexist, go to Indonesia. Guess who said it? ~~http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/19/washington/19diplo.html~~ That was said in 2009. A lot has changed in recent years in that country. What has changed, Muslims becoming a majority? --- Sweet dreams are made of cheese Who am I to diss a brie? <cite>Bloodychess posted [p:884542125] in Remember h... [t:75657728]...</cite> <quote><cite>iPhone_7 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>The Admiral posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Axiom posted...</cite> <quote>I don't remember this at all</quote> <quote>If you want to know if Islam, democracy, modernity and women’s rights can coexist, go to Indonesia.</quote> Guess who said it? http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/19/washington/19diplo.html</quote> That was said in 2009. A lot has changed in recent years in that country.</quote> What has changed, Muslims becoming a majority?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gamer167 08/10/17 5:06:54 PM #25:	Lol Islam --- https://i.imgflip.com/1jhnka.jpg <cite>gamer167 posted [p:884542211] in Remember h... [t:75657728]...</cite> <quote>Lol Islam</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
iPhone_7 08/10/17 5:16:51 PM #26:	Bloodychess posted... What has changed, Muslims becoming a majority? Well for one thing, the Islamic Defenders Front has been making a comeback, and it doesn't help that ISIS and their propaganda had spread throughout the Muslim world infecting young minds. Indonesia has had a long history of Islamic extremism but it's making a resurgence. --- Sig User Logic http://i.imgur.com/lA5fm7w.jpg <cite>iPhone_7 posted [p:884542763] in Remember h... [t:75657728]...</cite> <quote><cite>Bloodychess posted...</cite> <quote>What has changed, Muslims becoming a majority?</quote> Well for one thing, the Islamic Defenders Front has been making a comeback, and it doesn't help that ISIS and their propaganda had spread throughout the Muslim world infecting young minds. Indonesia has had a long history of Islamic extremism but it's making a resurgence.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ModLogic 08/10/17 5:17:31 PM #27:	this topic gonna result in a lot of moderations when that certain butthurt mod discovers it --- http://i.imgur.com/hEL2qQYh.jpg http://i.imgur.com/lbSi0U3.png http://i.imgur.com/FA2GxDS.jpg http://i.imgur.com/xaRYKZM.png http://i.imgur.com/ZngbqJn.jpg <cite>ModLogic posted [p:884542808] in Remember h... [t:75657728]...</cite> <quote>this topic gonna result in a lot of moderations when that certain butthurt mod discovers it</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
VectorChaos 08/10/17 5:46:43 PM #28:	ModLogic posted... this topic gonna result in a lot of moderations when that certain butthurt mod discovers it Let's place some bait. Garbage behavior is what you get from a religion/ideology founded by a pedophile warlord. --- PSN VectorChaos http://i.imgur.com/ftMERkZ.jpg XBL Vector Chaos http://i.imgur.com/10hWZ95.png http://i.imgur.com/MZMOLx0.jpg http://i.imgur.com/R2jRl8F.jpg <cite>VectorChaos posted [p:884544490] in Remember h... [t:75657728]...</cite> <quote><cite>ModLogic posted...</cite> <quote>this topic gonna result in a lot of moderations when that certain butthurt mod discovers it</quote> Let's place some bait. Garbage behavior is what you get from a religion/ideology founded by a pedophile warlord.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ModLogic 08/10/17 11:03:07 PM #29:	VectorChaos posted... --- http://i.imgur.com/hEL2qQYh.jpg http://i.imgur.com/lbSi0U3.png http://i.imgur.com/FA2GxDS.jpg http://i.imgur.com/xaRYKZM.png http://i.imgur.com/ZngbqJn.jpg <cite>ModLogic posted [p:884561569] in Remember h... [t:75657728]...</cite> <quote><cite>VectorChaos posted...</cite> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
chill02 08/10/17 11:19:10 PM #30:	@apolloooo --- Ave, true to Caesar. <cite>chill02 posted [p:884562452] in Remember h... [t:75657728]...</cite> <quote>@apolloooo</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
iosifsvoboda 08/10/17 11:22:11 PM #31:	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yFOeZv4BDVk --- ^_^ <cite>iosifsvoboda posted [p:884562615] in Remember h... [t:75657728]...</cite> <quote> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yFOeZv4BDVk</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lonestar2000 08/10/17 11:23:16 PM #32:	LOL religion. --- Rumble Roses. Someone enters the room. Them: O_O Me: What?! I always play games without my pants on!- Inmate 922335 #ImpeachTrump <cite>Lonestar2000 posted [p:884562670] in Remember h... [t:75657728]...</cite> <quote>LOL religion.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
apolloooo 08/10/17 11:25:47 PM #33:	Bloodychess posted... What has changed, Muslims becoming a majority? They are always a majority, but fundamentalism has really been on the rise lately. Back in the suharto dictatorship, these kind of religious fundamentalism are not allowed, you dont even allowed to wear hijab. When reformation happened, people get alot of freedom, and in that, more religious dogma got freedom in spreading the more harmful beliefs. It doesnt help that conglomerates and politician use these religious organization to further their agenda and lobby. Ahok's case is one of the biggest example and it succeded so they keep doing the same thing. It is a fucking mess. I hope to get out of here for real --- http://i.imgtc.com/iJyp6bF.png http://i.imgtc.com/ZBw36Qh.png Thanks for the peeps that made the pics <3 if i make typos it means i am on phone <cite>apolloooo posted [p:884562783] in Remember h... [t:75657728]...</cite> <quote><cite>Bloodychess posted...</cite> <quote> What has changed, Muslims becoming a majority?</quote> They are always a majority, but fundamentalism has really been on the rise lately. Back in the suharto dictatorship, these kind of religious fundamentalism are not allowed, you dont even allowed to wear hijab. When reformation happened, people get alot of freedom, and in that, more religious dogma got freedom in spreading the more harmful beliefs. It doesnt help that conglomerates and politician use these religious organization to further their agenda and lobby. Ahok's case is one of the biggest example and it succeded so they keep doing the same thing. It is a fucking mess. I hope to get out of here for real</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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