Current Events > 'Malaysian Atheists should be hunted down' says Malaysian Minister

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https://sg.news.yahoo.com/atheists-malaysia-hunted-down-minister-says-100400984.html

Atheists in Malaysia should be “hunted down” by authorities as there is no place for groups like this under the Federal Constitution, a minister said today.

Minister in the Prime Minister’s Department Datuk Seri Shahidan Kassim said the public should aid authorities in locating groups like the Kuala Lumpur chapter of Atheist Republic so that action could be taken.

MP added that most of these Malaysians especially Muslims turn into atheists as they lack religious education.

“They actually don’t want to be atheists but it happens because of the lack of religious education. They are misled with a new school of thought,” Shahidan said.
He also urged religious groups especially the muftis to help educate Muslims who have become atheists.

“We need to return them to the faith and correct their aqidah if they are Muslims. To all Mufti’s and state exco’s, take note,” Shahidan stressed.

A photo of the gathering by the Kuala Lumpur chapter, or “consulate”, has caused uproar from some in the Muslim community recently after it was highlighted by pro-Islamist blogs, leading to violent and death threats on social media.

Deputy minister in charge of Islamic affairs Datuk Dr Asyraf Wajdi Dusuki said yesterday Putrajaya will investigate the local group, even roping in the Malaysian Communications and Multimedia Commission, as it allegedly involved the faith of Muslims in the country.

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Why do religious people get in power anyway?
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religion and education shouldn't be used together
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LightningAce11 posted...

Why do religious people get in power anyway?

The more people who believe in your belief, the more justified one feels in it.
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B-b-but Islam doesn't hate apostates!!!
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LightningAce11 posted...

Why do religious people get in power anyway?

I think I'm wrong but were you in the religious topic with @kewldude475 yesterday?
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“We need to return them to the faith and correct their aqidah if they are Muslims.

but... they're atheists
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religion of peace

ThyCorndog posted...

“We need to return them to the faith and correct their aqidah if they are Muslims.

but... they're atheists

To my understanding, everyone in Malaysia is ethnically Muslim(I guess in the same sense that everyone born into a Jewish family is technically Jewish).

Though I haven't verified this. Saw it in a comment section
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ThyCorndog posted...

“We need to return them to the faith and correct their aqidah if they are Muslims.

but... they're atheists

In Islam, everyone is born a Muslim at heart. And that is especially true if you were literally a Muslim at any point in your life - when you leave the faith, Islam doesn't consider you as having left the faith. You're still a Muslim, just one in need of correction.
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wackyteen posted...

ThyCorndog posted...

“We need to return them to the faith and correct their aqidah if they are Muslims.

but... they're atheists

To my understanding, everyone in Malaysia is ethnically Muslim(I guess in the same sense that everyone born into a Jewish family is technically Jewish).

Though I haven't verified this. Saw it in a comment section

No such thing as "ethnically Muslim"
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Transcendentia posted...

No such thing as "ethnically Muslim"

I misremembered.

Under the Constitution of Malaysia, all ethnic Malays are Muslim, regardless of what they personally think or believe. It is not legally possible for an ethnic Malay to convert away from Islam in Malaysia.

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wackyteen posted...

Under the Constitution of Malaysia, all ethnic Malays are Muslim, regardless of what they personally think or believe. It is not legally possible for an ethnic Malay to convert away from Islam in Malaysia.

This is also inaccurate - Islam itself teaches this concept.
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wackyteen posted...

ThyCorndog posted...

“We need to return them to the faith and correct their aqidah if they are Muslims.

but... they're atheists

To my understanding, everyone in Malaysia is ethnically Muslim(I guess in the same sense that everyone born into a Jewish family is technically Jewish).

Though I haven't verified this. Saw it in a comment section

ethnically Jewish exists because Judah was a tribe not a religion

Jewish meant of the tribe of Judah and Benjamin

Muslim has no such meaning
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jew_(word)

The term Jew passed into the English language from the Greek Ioudaios and Latin Iudaeus, from which the Old French giu was derived after dropping the letter "d", and later after a variety of forms found in early English (from about the year 1000) such as: Iudea, Gyu, Giu, Iuu, Iuw, Iew developed into the English word “Jew.” It thus ultimately originates in the Biblical Hebrew word Yehudi meaning "from the Tribe of Judah", "from the Kingdom of Judah", or "Jew". The Jewish ethnonym in Hebrew is %u05D9%u05D4%u05D5%u05D3%u05D9%u05DD%u200E, Yehudim (plural of %u05D9%u05D4%u05D5%u05D3%u05D9%u200E, Yehudi).

so Jewish is like saying you are American or African or Mexican

it is just that the religion gets tied to it for various reasons
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Just #moderateislam things

Thanks for the clarification, darkphoenix.

I'm woefully ill-informed on this subject so most anything I say should be taken with a grain of salt
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