Current Events > Canada is the country with the best reputation in 2017. Guess how low the US is.

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s0nicfan
08/08/17 3:49:02 PM
#51:


creativerealms posted...

Can't really say we have much a science influence anymore when the people in change pretty much said screw you to science.


And if we're being really honest with ourselves, the US were pioneers in engineering, but science was always the realm of Europe, and some of the best US breakthroughs were done by imported English and German scientists. We're a country of blue-collar go-getters more than thinkers.
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mustachedmystic
08/08/17 3:50:18 PM
#52:


38 aint so bad, considering that a lot of people love ragging on the top dog. Also the way some people talk, you'd think we're hated more than Myanmar, or N. Korea.
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TheVipaGTS
08/08/17 3:50:20 PM
#53:


GiftedACIII posted...
TheVipaGTS posted...
GiftedACIII posted...
only get 2 years.

that's no different than some cases in the US....hell sometimes here the woman doesn't even get Jail Time. just probation...

You don't get charged for crimes against fictional children in those states though.

Eh, I feel like if the book was written JUST about that and intended to be ONLY about that its a problem..why would you want to read that? For example, Stephen King's IT has an orgy scene but its not what the book is about. The people in the book being underrage isn't the emphasis...if the book is about putting an emphasis on the fact that it has children in it i'd question the person interested in reading that shit too.
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IfGodCouldDie
08/08/17 3:51:21 PM
#54:


WesternMedia posted...
IfGodCouldDie posted...
WesternMedia posted...
IfGodCouldDie posted...
WesternMedia posted...
IfGodCouldDie posted...
theregister posted...
if giving money to convicted terrorists and kicking out special needs children out of the country is a "good rep" then whats a "bad rep"

Who did that?

Canada

Citation needed

https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/400-current-events/75606864
http://globalnews.ca/news/3573619/omar-khadr-canada-compensation/

Oh so you are just misrepresenting facts or blatantly ignoring the truth. Keep doing that I guess.

That's what happened though, even if there are other underlying circumstances. That's probably why the only thing you can resort to being is bitter and defensive and not actually pointing out the supposed blatant truth ignoring.

First of all, I haven't been bitter or defensive, so thanks for pointing out falsehoods again. It really helps solidify you as a liar/troll. And I know you blatantly misrepresented facts you don't have to tell me that's what happened as I am the one that originally pointed it out. I don't understand what you are trying to accomplish by ignoring the truth.
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DoctorVader
08/08/17 3:51:48 PM
#55:


The US influences the whole planet through media and technology. It's probably the most influential country on the planet.
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WesternMedia
08/08/17 3:56:25 PM
#56:


IfGodCouldDie posted...
WesternMedia posted...
IfGodCouldDie posted...
WesternMedia posted...
IfGodCouldDie posted...
WesternMedia posted...
IfGodCouldDie posted...

Who did that?

Canada

Citation needed

https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/400-current-events/75606864
http://globalnews.ca/news/3573619/omar-khadr-canada-compensation/

Oh so you are just misrepresenting facts or blatantly ignoring the truth. Keep doing that I guess.

That's what happened though, even if there are other underlying circumstances. That's probably why the only thing you can resort to being is bitter and defensive and not actually pointing out the supposed blatant truth ignoring.

First of all, I haven't been bitter or defensive, so thanks for pointing out falsehoods again. It really helps solidify you as a liar/troll. And I know you blatantly misrepresented facts you don't have to tell me that's what happened as I am the one that originally pointed it out. I don't understand what you are trying to accomplish by ignoring the truth.

Ok, so now you've just started shitposting. I'm asking what exactly I am falsifying. Your posts so far has contained no substance and are just ad hominems. What did I lie about? And yes, you are clearly being bitter and defensive right now.
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GiftedACIII
08/08/17 3:58:12 PM
#57:


TheVipaGTS posted...
GiftedACIII posted...
TheVipaGTS posted...
GiftedACIII posted...
only get 2 years.

that's no different than some cases in the US....hell sometimes here the woman doesn't even get Jail Time. just probation...

You don't get charged for crimes against fictional children in those states though.

Eh, I feel like if the book was written JUST about that and intended to be ONLY about that its a problem..why would you want to read that? For example, Stephen King's IT has an orgy scene but its not what the book is about. The people in the book being underrage isn't the emphasis...if the book is about putting an emphasis on the fact that it has children in it i'd question the person interested in reading that shit too.

Why would it be a crime? Who's getting hurt for that? You could say it could be a reason to issue a warrant into searching their computers and homes but by itself it's a victimless thought crime. But that's beside the point. If Canada wants to be authoritarian like that, then that's their perogative. The extra irony is when ACTUAL child rapists get such a low sentence.
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hyperpowder
08/08/17 4:25:25 PM
#58:


Why do foreigners hate the US? Jealousy?

Like I get we are reputation isnt the best, but Mexico ahead of us? Cmon now....now you just look like a pathetic ex girlfriend.
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ShiningFetus
08/08/17 4:26:30 PM
#59:


Bullet_Wing posted...
apocalyptic_4 posted...
MakoReizei posted...
meanwhile the rest of the world will still come begging for our help when shit hits the fan


It's actually the opposite.

This. We come pushing help as Team America: World Police, and the world says fuck off

apocalyptic_4 posted...
MakoReizei posted...
meanwhile the rest of the world will still come begging for our help when shit hits the fan


It's actually the opposite.



These. USA should just pull out of NATO. America's disengagement from the world will lead to EU and Russia harmony. Islamic reform and decimation of African and South American poverty.
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IfGodCouldDie
08/08/17 4:48:48 PM
#61:


WesternMedia posted...
Ok, so now you've just started shitposting. I'm asking what exactly I am falsifying. Your posts so far has contained no substance and are just ad hominems. What did I lie about? And yes, you are clearly being bitter and defensive right now.

Please point out what I am bitter and/or defensive about, and while you're at it please point out the ad hominem you are accusing me of.
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WesternMedia
08/08/17 4:57:50 PM
#62:


IfGodCouldDie posted...
WesternMedia posted...
Ok, so now you've just started shitposting. I'm asking what exactly I am falsifying. Your posts so far has contained no substance and are just ad hominems. What did I lie about? And yes, you are clearly being bitter and defensive right now.

Please point out what I am bitter and/or defensive about, and while you're at it please point out the ad hominem you are accusing me of.


You apparently got very defensive because I proved you wrong and didn't follow the formula you wanted me to. I gave you two links to what the original poster was referring to which showed he was technically correct despite other underlying conditions obviously. You got upset and started rambling over nothing. You called me a liar and a troll for no reason too. It looks like you're referring to yourself since you're the one that's ignoring the truth.
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Bandit_Keith
08/08/17 4:58:19 PM
#63:


IfGodCouldDie posted...
WesternMedia posted...
Ok, so now you've just started shitposting. I'm asking what exactly I am falsifying. Your posts so far has contained no substance and are just ad hominems. What did I lie about? And yes, you are clearly being bitter and defensive right now.

Please point out what I am bitter and/or defensive about, and while you're at it please point out the ad hominem you are accusing me of.

As an observer of the thread, I hope you know your post came across as a "I know you are but what am I" while still not addressing his claims. I'm just staying. You're looking no better than he right now.
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ModLogic
08/08/17 5:06:00 PM
#64:


Asherlee10 posted...
Ilishe posted...
ShiningFetus posted...
I find it funny that China, US, and India are so low and yet they dominate the cultural landscape of the regions around them. US culture in particular dominates the whole world.


What would you say US culture entails?


All kinds of things depending on the region.

- Hollywood
- Cowboys
- Certain music
- Certain art
- Certain writers
- Technology influence
- Science influences

whining
bullying
committing war crimes
invading other people's land
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ShiningFetus
08/08/17 5:07:14 PM
#65:


committing war crimes
invading other people's land

For god's sake Canada NZ and AUS are top five.
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twitterfriends
08/08/17 5:07:47 PM
#66:


I'm surprised its that high, the world hates Trump
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IfGodCouldDie
08/08/17 5:20:54 PM
#67:


WesternMedia posted...
IfGodCouldDie posted...
WesternMedia posted...
Ok, so now you've just started shitposting. I'm asking what exactly I am falsifying. Your posts so far has contained no substance and are just ad hominems. What did I lie about? And yes, you are clearly being bitter and defensive right now.

Please point out what I am bitter and/or defensive about, and while you're at it please point out the ad hominem you are accusing me of.


You apparently got very defensive because I proved you wrong and didn't follow the formula you wanted me to. I gave you two links to what the original poster was referring to which showed he was technically correct despite other underlying conditions obviously. You got upset and started rambling over nothing. You called me a liar and a troll for no reason too. It looks like you're referring to yourself since you're the one that's ignoring the truth.

How did I get defensive though, and your links don't actually prove what TC is talking about as the family wasn't kicked out of Canada, nor is Kadar a convicted terrorist.
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IfGodCouldDie
08/08/17 5:21:55 PM
#68:


Bandit_Keith posted...
IfGodCouldDie posted...
WesternMedia posted...
Ok, so now you've just started shitposting. I'm asking what exactly I am falsifying. Your posts so far has contained no substance and are just ad hominems. What did I lie about? And yes, you are clearly being bitter and defensive right now.

Please point out what I am bitter and/or defensive about, and while you're at it please point out the ad hominem you are accusing me of.

As an observer of the thread, I hope you know your post came across as a "I know you are but what am I" while still not addressing his claims. I'm just staying. You're looking no better than he right now.

Ok... I don't see how.
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Gojak_v3
08/08/17 5:22:49 PM
#69:


Liberals and their need for the US to be the popular kid on the block.
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Looked gf
08/08/17 5:30:43 PM
#70:


WhinyZach posted...
Are American's shocked the rest of the world doesn't think highly of them? Surely not everyone in the US is this deluded to think the reputation of their country is pristine across the globe.

you're on CE
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WesternMedia
08/08/17 5:31:17 PM
#71:


IfGodCouldDie posted...
WesternMedia posted...
IfGodCouldDie posted...
WesternMedia posted...
Ok, so now you've just started shitposting. I'm asking what exactly I am falsifying. Your posts so far has contained no substance and are just ad hominems. What did I lie about? And yes, you are clearly being bitter and defensive right now.

Please point out what I am bitter and/or defensive about, and while you're at it please point out the ad hominem you are accusing me of.


You apparently got very defensive because I proved you wrong and didn't follow the formula you wanted me to. I gave you two links to what the original poster was referring to which showed he was technically correct despite other underlying conditions obviously. You got upset and started rambling over nothing. You called me a liar and a troll for no reason too. It looks like you're referring to yourself since you're the one that's ignoring the truth.

How did I get defensive though, and your links don't actually prove what TC is talking about as the family wasn't kicked out of Canada, nor is Kadar a convicted terrorist.


They were denied further residency which is the same thing, as being deported is what would legally happen if they refused to leave, and Kadar WAS convicted of terrorism even if it was later overturned though many still believe he did it. So, despite other underlying conditions, he wasn't wrong.
Also, it wasn't TC who made the post, it was theregister.
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KobeSystem
08/08/17 5:35:55 PM
#72:


Asherlee10 posted...
Ilishe posted...
ShiningFetus posted...
I find it funny that China, US, and India are so low and yet they dominate the cultural landscape of the regions around them. US culture in particular dominates the whole world.


What would you say US culture entails?


All kinds of things depending on the region.

- Hollywood
- Lakers
- Certain music
- Certain art
- Certain writers
- Technology influence
- Science influences


fix'd
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IfGodCouldDie
08/08/17 6:01:56 PM
#73:


WesternMedia posted...
IfGodCouldDie posted...
WesternMedia posted...
IfGodCouldDie posted...
WesternMedia posted...
Ok, so now you've just started shitposting. I'm asking what exactly I am falsifying. Your posts so far has contained no substance and are just ad hominems. What did I lie about? And yes, you are clearly being bitter and defensive right now.

Please point out what I am bitter and/or defensive about, and while you're at it please point out the ad hominem you are accusing me of.


You apparently got very defensive because I proved you wrong and didn't follow the formula you wanted me to. I gave you two links to what the original poster was referring to which showed he was technically correct despite other underlying conditions obviously. You got upset and started rambling over nothing. You called me a liar and a troll for no reason too. It looks like you're referring to yourself since you're the one that's ignoring the truth.

How did I get defensive though, and your links don't actually prove what TC is talking about as the family wasn't kicked out of Canada, nor is Kadar a convicted terrorist.


They were denied further residency which is the same thing, as being deported is what would legally happen if they refused to leave, and Kadar WAS convicted of terrorism even if it was later overturned though many still believe he did it. So, despite other underlying conditions, he wasn't wrong.
Also, it wasn't TC who made the post, it was theregister.

No they were denied permanent residency, which means they can still apply for the visa they are clearly living here on and they were not kicked out. The decision is also being appealed which means it isn't final.

A confession under duress is not the same thing as a legitimate conviction during a trial. It's appalling that someone could even think they are the same thing in any way shape or form.

So no you haven't proved anything wrong, nice try though.
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Kineth
08/08/17 6:05:26 PM
#74:


Cool, I can say I'm Mexican when I'm overseas and be viewed more favorably.

Really though, I'm a cool person and will still say I'm American.
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WesternMedia
08/08/17 6:18:31 PM
#75:


IfGodCouldDie posted...
WesternMedia posted...
IfGodCouldDie posted...
WesternMedia posted...
IfGodCouldDie posted...
WesternMedia posted...
Ok, so now you've just started shitposting. I'm asking what exactly I am falsifying. Your posts so far has contained no substance and are just ad hominems. What did I lie about? And yes, you are clearly being bitter and defensive right now.

Please point out what I am bitter and/or defensive about, and while you're at it please point out the ad hominem you are accusing me of.


You apparently got very defensive because I proved you wrong and didn't follow the formula you wanted me to. I gave you two links to what the original poster was referring to which showed he was technically correct despite other underlying conditions obviously. You got upset and started rambling over nothing. You called me a liar and a troll for no reason too. It looks like you're referring to yourself since you're the one that's ignoring the truth.

How did I get defensive though, and your links don't actually prove what TC is talking about as the family wasn't kicked out of Canada, nor is Kadar a convicted terrorist.


They were denied further residency which is the same thing, as being deported is what would legally happen if they refused to leave, and Kadar WAS convicted of terrorism even if it was later overturned though many still believe he did it. So, despite other underlying conditions, he wasn't wrong.
Also, it wasn't TC who made the post, it was theregister.

No they were denied permanent residency, which means they can still apply for the visa they are clearly living here on and they were not kicked out. The decision is also being appealed which means it isn't final.

A confession under duress is not the same thing as a legitimate conviction during a trial. It's appalling that someone could even think they are the same thing in any way shape or form.

So no you haven't proved anything wrong, nice try though.


It said right in the article that "Karalynn was deemed inadmissible to Canada on health grounds" and that they're going to have to leave their community they've worked up behind.
And sure, but it also doesn't mean they didn't do it. He WAS convicted and sentenced so saying he's a convicted terrorist isn't technically wrong, especially if you still harbor feelings that he likely did it, which theregister probably does.
Which is something you thought TC posted, so even if the other points are debatable, I factually proved you wrong here
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IfGodCouldDie
08/08/17 6:38:44 PM
#76:


WesternMedia posted...
It said right in the article that "Karalynn was deemed inadmissible to Canada on health grounds" and that they're going to have to leave their community they've worked up behind.
And sure, but it also doesn't mean they didn't do it. He WAS convicted and sentenced so saying he's a convicted terrorist isn't technically wrong, especially if you still harbor feelings that he likely did it, which theregister probably does.
Which is something you thought TC posted, so even if the other points are debatable, I factually proved you wrong here

Goal post at the beginning of this discussion "ll"
Now "l l"
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WesternMedia
08/08/17 6:55:51 PM
#77:


IfGodCouldDie posted...
WesternMedia posted...
It said right in the article that "Karalynn was deemed inadmissible to Canada on health grounds" and that they're going to have to leave their community they've worked up behind.
And sure, but it also doesn't mean they didn't do it. He WAS convicted and sentenced so saying he's a convicted terrorist isn't technically wrong, especially if you still harbor feelings that he likely did it, which theregister probably does.
Which is something you thought TC posted, so even if the other points are debatable, I factually proved you wrong here

Goal post at the beginning of this discussion "ll"
Now "l l"


You're the one that's doing that hypocrite. At face value, his post was correct. It's only when you start nitpicking and going into the specifics (goal post moving) where you can consider his statement inaccurate.
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IfGodCouldDie
08/08/17 7:10:34 PM
#78:


WesternMedia posted...
IfGodCouldDie posted...
WesternMedia posted...
It said right in the article that "Karalynn was deemed inadmissible to Canada on health grounds" and that they're going to have to leave their community they've worked up behind.
And sure, but it also doesn't mean they didn't do it. He WAS convicted and sentenced so saying he's a convicted terrorist isn't technically wrong, especially if you still harbor feelings that he likely did it, which theregister probably does.
Which is something you thought TC posted, so even if the other points are debatable, I factually proved you wrong here

Goal post at the beginning of this discussion "ll"
Now "l l"


You're the one that's doing that hypocrite. At face value, his post was correct. It's only when you start nitpicking and going into the specifics (goal post moving) where you can consider his statement inaccurate.

What? Are you sure you know what you are talking about because it really seems like you don't.
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Darmik
08/08/17 7:14:37 PM
#79:


Tbh the US deserves to at least be in the 21-25 range.
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Xelltrix
08/08/17 7:16:46 PM
#80:


Blah blah US hate blah.
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awesome999
08/08/17 7:17:23 PM
#81:


Thanks Trump
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Dark_Spiret
08/08/17 7:24:30 PM
#82:


pfft, ahaha. ok.
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WesternMedia
08/08/17 7:25:00 PM
#83:


IfGodCouldDie posted...
WesternMedia posted...
IfGodCouldDie posted...
WesternMedia posted...
It said right in the article that "Karalynn was deemed inadmissible to Canada on health grounds" and that they're going to have to leave their community they've worked up behind.
And sure, but it also doesn't mean they didn't do it. He WAS convicted and sentenced so saying he's a convicted terrorist isn't technically wrong, especially if you still harbor feelings that he likely did it, which theregister probably does.
Which is something you thought TC posted, so even if the other points are debatable, I factually proved you wrong here

Goal post at the beginning of this discussion "ll"
Now "l l"


You're the one that's doing that hypocrite. At face value, his post was correct. It's only when you start nitpicking and going into the specifics (goal post moving) where you can consider his statement inaccurate.

What? Are you sure you know what you are talking about because it really seems like you don't.


That's you, you seem really confused. Or just trolling
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IfGodCouldDie
08/08/17 7:35:02 PM
#84:


WesternMedia posted...
IfGodCouldDie posted...
WesternMedia posted...
IfGodCouldDie posted...
WesternMedia posted...
It said right in the article that "Karalynn was deemed inadmissible to Canada on health grounds" and that they're going to have to leave their community they've worked up behind.
And sure, but it also doesn't mean they didn't do it. He WAS convicted and sentenced so saying he's a convicted terrorist isn't technically wrong, especially if you still harbor feelings that he likely did it, which theregister probably does.
Which is something you thought TC posted, so even if the other points are debatable, I factually proved you wrong here

Goal post at the beginning of this discussion "ll"
Now "l l"


You're the one that's doing that hypocrite. At face value, his post was correct. It's only when you start nitpicking and going into the specifics (goal post moving) where you can consider his statement inaccurate.

What? Are you sure you know what you are talking about because it really seems like you don't.


That's you, you seem really confused. Or just trolling

Umm no, when you have to distinguish between face value and the truth you are admitting you are wrong.
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SGT_Conti
08/08/17 7:44:56 PM
#85:


WesternMedia posted...
IfGodCouldDie posted...
WesternMedia posted...
It said right in the article that "Karalynn was deemed inadmissible to Canada on health grounds" and that they're going to have to leave their community they've worked up behind.
And sure, but it also doesn't mean they didn't do it. He WAS convicted and sentenced so saying he's a convicted terrorist isn't technically wrong, especially if you still harbor feelings that he likely did it, which theregister probably does.
Which is something you thought TC posted, so even if the other points are debatable, I factually proved you wrong here

Goal post at the beginning of this discussion "ll"
Now "l l"


You're the one that's doing that hypocrite. At face value, his post was correct. It's only when you start nitpicking and going into the specifics (goal post moving) where you can consider his statement inaccurate.

Those details change everything though. It's like saying a man killed someone else but left out the part where he was jumped by a gang and only killed in self-defense. It's a deliberately misleading presentation of what actually happened.

Khadr didn't really have a proper trial, basically being a kangaroo court of the US military and no jury, and confessions made were done after torture. In no circumstances in both the US or Canada would that have been considered a proper carriage of justice but that seems to be what's happening here.
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DanHarenChamp
08/08/17 7:45:55 PM
#86:


lol we are right at the border of decent countries and terrible countries
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WesternMedia
08/08/17 7:47:34 PM
#87:


IfGodCouldDie posted...
WesternMedia posted...
IfGodCouldDie posted...
WesternMedia posted...
IfGodCouldDie posted...
WesternMedia posted...
It said right in the article that "Karalynn was deemed inadmissible to Canada on health grounds" and that they're going to have to leave their community they've worked up behind.
And sure, but it also doesn't mean they didn't do it. He WAS convicted and sentenced so saying he's a convicted terrorist isn't technically wrong, especially if you still harbor feelings that he likely did it, which theregister probably does.
Which is something you thought TC posted, so even if the other points are debatable, I factually proved you wrong here

Goal post at the beginning of this discussion "ll"
Now "l l"


You're the one that's doing that hypocrite. At face value, his post was correct. It's only when you start nitpicking and going into the specifics (goal post moving) where you can consider his statement inaccurate.

What? Are you sure you know what you are talking about because it really seems like you don't.


That's you, you seem really confused. Or just trolling

Umm no, when you have to distinguish between face value and the truth you are admitting you are wrong.


Unlike you, who needs to move goalposts to get a truth that you like to hear?

SGT_Conti posted...
Those details change everything though. It's like saying a man killed someone else but left out the part where he was jumped by a gang and only killed in self-defense. It's a deliberately misleading presentation of what actually happened.

Except he did kill someone. That would be a fact. Somebody would be correct if he stated that. Him being jumped by a gang is extra context that explains it but stating that he killed someone is still correct
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IfGodCouldDie
08/08/17 7:49:52 PM
#88:


WesternMedia posted...
IfGodCouldDie posted...
WesternMedia posted...
IfGodCouldDie posted...
WesternMedia posted...
IfGodCouldDie posted...
WesternMedia posted...
It said right in the article that "Karalynn was deemed inadmissible to Canada on health grounds" and that they're going to have to leave their community they've worked up behind.
And sure, but it also doesn't mean they didn't do it. He WAS convicted and sentenced so saying he's a convicted terrorist isn't technically wrong, especially if you still harbor feelings that he likely did it, which theregister probably does.
Which is something you thought TC posted, so even if the other points are debatable, I factually proved you wrong here

Goal post at the beginning of this discussion "ll"
Now "l l"


You're the one that's doing that hypocrite. At face value, his post was correct. It's only when you start nitpicking and going into the specifics (goal post moving) where you can consider his statement inaccurate.

What? Are you sure you know what you are talking about because it really seems like you don't.


That's you, you seem really confused. Or just trolling

Umm no, when you have to distinguish between face value and the truth you are admitting you are wrong.


Unlike you, who needs to move goalposts to get a truth that you like to hear?

What goal posts did I move?
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WesternMedia
08/08/17 7:53:22 PM
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IfGodCouldDie posted...
WesternMedia posted...
IfGodCouldDie posted...
WesternMedia posted...
IfGodCouldDie posted...
WesternMedia posted...
IfGodCouldDie posted...

Goal post at the beginning of this discussion "ll"
Now "l l"


You're the one that's doing that hypocrite. At face value, his post was correct. It's only when you start nitpicking and going into the specifics (goal post moving) where you can consider his statement inaccurate.

What? Are you sure you know what you are talking about because it really seems like you don't.


That's you, you seem really confused. Or just trolling

Umm no, when you have to distinguish between face value and the truth you are admitting you are wrong.


Unlike you, who needs to move goalposts to get a truth that you like to hear?

What goal posts did I move?


That he only confessed under duress. What goalposts have I moved?
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MoreRpgs
08/08/17 7:54:48 PM
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Damn lower than Mexico XD
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SGT_Conti
08/08/17 8:00:59 PM
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WesternMedia posted...
Except he did kill someone. That would be a fact. Somebody would be correct if he stated that. Him being jumped by a gang is extra context that explains it but stating that he killed someone is still correct

If you want to be specific, he confessed to throwing a grenade that killed someone, but that was done after he was promised he'd be repatriated to Canada and after over half a decade of torture. Torture invalidates any confession.

"I dunno, he might have threw it, I guess" would absolutely not fly in court. There's a presumption of innocence in the trial of any civilized nation and unless you can prove beyond a reasonable doubt that he was the one who threw the grenade, there would be a finding of not guilty. The only definitive thing you can charge him for was those IEDs he crafted, as was recorded on video, but nothing else beyond that. If I recall, the US military said they managed to retrieve those IEDs without any casualties, so it's not like he killed anyone through those either.
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WesternMedia
08/08/17 8:05:06 PM
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SGT_Conti posted...
WesternMedia posted...
Except he did kill someone. That would be a fact. Somebody would be correct if he stated that. Him being jumped by a gang is extra context that explains it but stating that he killed someone is still correct

If you want to be specific, he confessed to throwing a grenade that killed someone, but that was done after he was promised he'd be repatriated to Canada and after over half a decade of torture. Torture invalidates any confession.

"I dunno, he might have threw it, I guess" would absolutely not fly in court. There's a presumption of innocence in the trial of any civilized nation and unless you can prove beyond a reasonable doubt that he was the one who threw the grenade, there would be a finding of not guilty. The only definitive thing you can charge him for was those IEDs he crafted, as was recorded on video, but nothing else beyond that. If I recall, the US military said they managed to retrieve those IEDs without any casualties, so it's not like he killed anyone through those either.

Like I said, there's a lot of underlying circumstances but at the end of the day, he factually was convicted with charges of terrorism.
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SGT_Conti
08/08/17 8:07:48 PM
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I suppose, just like Otto Warmbier was factually convicted of hostile acts against the nation of North Korea.

But nobody should take those charges at face value, the same way nobody should take the trial of Omar Khadr at face value either.
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MrMallard
08/08/17 8:08:56 PM
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theregister posted...
if giving money to convicted terrorists and kicking out special needs children out of the country is a "good rep" then whats a "bad rep"

The "terrorist" sued the country in its own Supreme Court for human rights violations and won, and the girl with epilepsy and her family were trying to immigrate to Canada but were denied.
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refmon
08/08/17 8:10:14 PM
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apocalyptic_4 posted...
No surprise when you travel Americans lie and say they're Canadian.

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FreedomEtrtment
08/08/17 8:10:52 PM
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MrMallard posted...
theregister posted...
if giving money to convicted terrorists and kicking out special needs children out of the country is a "good rep" then whats a "bad rep"

The "terrorist" sued the country in its own Supreme Court for human rights violations and won, and the girl with epilepsy and her family were trying to immigrate to Canada but were denied.

Strict immigration policies and low birth rates are a bad combination. They'll be like Japan soon.
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Transcendentia
08/08/17 8:11:02 PM
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thompsontalker7 posted...
>31. Brazil

Yeah okay

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IfGodCouldDie
08/08/17 8:11:29 PM
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WesternMedia posted...
That he only confessed under duress. What goalposts have I moved?

And how is that moving a goal post?

You claimed to have been technically correct because I misremembered who the original poster was in our chain of discussion which you basically claimed to have proved me wrong factually, when in fact that actually is irrelevant in our discussion.
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Axiom
08/08/17 8:13:50 PM
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I knew world opinion of America was at an all time low but damn that's worse than I expected >_>
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