Current Events > lmao casuals are upset that Dragon Ball Fighter Z isn't a button masher

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I've seen tons of people complaining that fireball motions are too difficult. Paging Super Yan lmaooo

@ManSpread
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lmao dude check out any of the DBZ subs for like xenoverse and shit

YUUUUUGE salt over fireballs and the amount of buttons

https://www.reddit.com/r/dbz/comments/6qst40/botamo_and_magetta/dl069tb/
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Yeah that's what I'm talking bout hahah

They expect a massive roster too
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and lmao super yan, too bad thirsty didnt eat that ass like he was offered
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it really triggers me, I remember I saw one of the new trailers posted for it on yt and it was mostly disliked and the comments were like "wtf is this shit bring back tenkaichi"

ugh
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ManSpread posted...

and lmao super yan, too bad thirsty didnt eat that ass like he was offered

hahah social awkwardness btfo
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MemeDaddy posted...

They expect a massive roster too

this is a bad thing?
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Why do people compare this to Xenoverse? Xenoverse isn't a fighting game
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Number39 posted...

Kaname_Madoka posted...

MemeDaddy posted...

They expect a massive roster too

this is a bad thing?

Of course not!

We all want fan favorites like

Vegeta (Scouter with tail)
Vegeta (Scouter without tail)
Vegeta (Armor with no scouter)
Vegeta (damaged armor)
Vegeta (casual clothing)
Vegeta (Buu saga)
Vegeta (Super)
Vegeta (GT)

I think usually when people want a big roster, they're talking about having a large variety of individual characters. So they can play as their favorites. Not that sort of thing you're talking about. I'm really pumped for this game though. It's been so long since DBZ had a real decent fighter, and nobody does anime fighters better than Arc Sys.

does it even have android 18, 17 or 16?

should have no clones, but lots of characters like gotenks, kid buu, maybe kid goku, tien, roshi, beerus, yamucha, krillin, chiaotzu, satan, etcetera.

@Number39

edit: honestly what a lazy post. i clearly meant that there should be 10 vegetas instead of an actual big roster right?
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Kaname_Madoka posted...

MemeDaddy posted...

They expect a massive roster too

this is a bad thing?

No but it's completely unrealistic for a 1st iteration of a serious fighter to have a large roster. Even Marvel vs Capcom 3 vanilla was pretty small.
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MemeDaddy posted...

No but it's completely unrealistic for a 1st iteration of a serious fighter to have a large roster.

This. It's standard Arc Sys fair because they actually want the characters to be balanced. The first BlazBlue game only had 12 characters but after 6 years and countless revisions later, it ended up with 36 characters.
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It;'s been 9 years since Calamity Trigger.
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LMAO yall thought this game was not gonna have its own haters? Must be new to video games.
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An ArcSys game that might actually not suck? Awesome!

DKFjalfe posted...

An ArcSys game that might actually not suck? Awesome!

I bet you think Dead or Alive is a good fighter.
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s0nicfan posted...

DKFjalfe posted...

An ArcSys game that might actually not suck? Awesome!

I bet you think Dead or Alive is a good fighter.

Never played it

People who expect a roster like Budokai Tenkaichi 3 are insane.

Shouldn't waste time and resources just so we can have multiple versions of one character. One Goku.
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Number39 posted...

Kaname_Madoka posted...

MemeDaddy posted...

They expect a massive roster too

this is a bad thing?

Of course not!

We all want fan favorites like

Vegeta (Scouter with tail)
Vegeta (Scouter without tail)
Vegeta (Armor with no scouter)
Vegeta (damaged armor)
Vegeta (casual clothing)
Vegeta (Buu saga)
Vegeta (Super)
Vegeta (GT)

The funny thing is this game is made by the company that made Saint Seiya: Soldiers' Soul and if you look at, for example, Dragon Shiryu, you have...

Shiryu (Cloth)
Shiryu (Cloth Divested)
Shiryu (Plainclothes)
Shiryu (Cloth no Helmet)
Shiryu (Second Cloth)
Shiryu (Bronze Gold Cloth)
Shiryu (Leo Cloth)

and maybe another that I can't think about ATM.

But they're all skins for the same character.
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Funny 'cause non-casuals are still complaining about it being too simple.

DBF seems to have struck the perfect balance of complaining.
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Here's what a proper roster looks like.

Goku
Gohan
Krillin
Tien
Piccolo
Vegeta
Captain Ginyu
Freeza
Android 17
Android 18
Perfect Cell
Fat Boo
Beerus
Whis

Probable DLC:
Hit
Goku Black
Merged Zamasu
Jiren
Broly
Janemba
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Number39 posted...

Kaname_Madoka posted...

MemeDaddy posted...

They expect a massive roster too

this is a bad thing?

Of course not!

We all want fan favorites like

Vegeta (Scouter with tail)
Vegeta (Scouter without tail)
Vegeta (Armor with no scouter)
Vegeta (damaged armor)
Vegeta (casual clothing)
Vegeta (Buu saga)
Vegeta (Super)
Vegeta (GT)

Albel-Nox posted...

Number39 posted...

Kaname_Madoka posted...

MemeDaddy posted...

They expect a massive roster too

this is a bad thing?

Of course not!

We all want fan favorites like

Vegeta (Scouter with tail)
Vegeta (Scouter without tail)
Vegeta (Armor with no scouter)
Vegeta (damaged armor)
Vegeta (casual clothing)
Vegeta (Buu saga)
Vegeta (Super)
Vegeta (GT)

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If Goku Black is in the game I will buy it.

Evolician posted...

Here's what a proper roster looks like.

Goku
Gohan
Krillin
Tien
Piccolo
Vegeta
Captain Ginyu
Freeza
Android 17
Android 18
Perfect Cell
Fat Boo
Beerus
Whis

Probable DLC:
Hit
Goku Black
Merged Zamasu
Jiren
Broly
Janemba

ASW said their focus with the roster is variety and selecting from the full DB timeline. I would expect at least a few DB reps in there, like Android 8, General Blue, young Yamcha, Tambourine, Launch, etc.
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Most of the complaining I've heard has been about the roster from people who don't understand actual fighting games. They want a million characters without realizing all of those characters need to be balanced and that the only reason most DBZ fighters have so many characters is because every character in them are 70% identical to each other
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s0nicfan posted...

Evolician posted...

Here's what a proper roster looks like.

Goku
Gohan
Krillin
Tien
Piccolo
Vegeta
Captain Ginyu
Freeza
Android 17
Android 18
Perfect Cell
Fat Boo
Beerus
Whis

Probable DLC:
Hit
Goku Black
Merged Zamasu
Jiren
Broly
Janemba

ASW said their focus with the roster is variety and selecting from the full DB timeline. I would expect at least a few DB reps in there, like Android 8, General Blue, young Yamcha, Tambourine, Launch, etc.

Maybe General Blue and Tambourine but I can't imagine Launch getting in or how'd she would play.

Also I forgot Future Trunks <_<
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Evolician posted...

Maybe General Blue and Tambourine but I can't imagine Launch getting in or how'd she would play.

Make her a stance dancer with a variety of weapons. Or do a heat meter like RoboKy where she builds up tension and then snaps into angry Launch mode? ASW could do all kinds of interesting things.
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it at least better have 18 and/or 17, yamcha (pref desert bandit clothes) and tien
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Kaname_Madoka posted...

it at least better have 18 and/or 17, yamcha (pref desert bandit clothes) and tien

17 was accidentally confirmed by his voice actor.
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Evolician posted...

Here's what a proper roster looks like.

Goku
Gohan
Krillin
Tien
Piccolo
Vegeta
Captain Ginyu
Freeza
Android 17
Android 18
Perfect Cell
Fat Boo
Beerus
Whis

Probable DLC:
Hit
Goku Black
Merged Zamasu
Jiren
Broly
Janemba

What about Future Trunks?
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oh nice. it should also have gotenks imo
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i also find it very lolworthy that you think wanting lots of characters is a casual mindset. id say that only wanting ten characters or whatever is the casual thing.
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l33t_iRk3n_Rm33 posted...

Funny 'cause non-casuals are still complaining about it being too simple.

DBF seems to have struck the perfect balance of complaining.

ASW said there's gameplay mechanics and another system that hasn't been shown publicly yet. The test version are simpler. If you watch the original E3 trailer, your assists can actually fight each other and there might be the possibility of calling multiple assists.
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MemeDaddy posted...

l33t_iRk3n_Rm33 posted...

Funny 'cause non-casuals are still complaining about it being too simple.

DBF seems to have struck the perfect balance of complaining.

ASW said there's gameplay mechanics and another system that hasn't been shown publicly yet. The test version are simpler. If you watch the original E3 trailer, your assists can actually fight each other and there might be the possibility of calling multiple assists.

I really hope the E3 demo version was some basic super-alpha build or something because if you take out the DB characters nobody would be playing this game.
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Assists that collide would just null each other out in that build and nothing would happen. In the reveal trailer, you had assists fighting so clearly the E3 demo version isn't close to done. The producer even said that demo was 20% of the final game.
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MemeDaddy posted...

Assists that collide would just null each other out in that build and nothing would happen. In the reveal trailer, you had assists fighting so clearly the E3 demo version isn't close to done. The producer even said that demo was 20% of the final game.

I'm just worried that "assists fighting each other" means something similar to the scripted sequences of rapid strikes that the active characters do to each other on certain collisions.

However that could also be some kind of unfinished feature that was in the E3 build.
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ChromaticAngel posted...

MemeDaddy posted...

Assists that collide would just null each other out in that build and nothing would happen. In the reveal trailer, you had assists fighting so clearly the E3 demo version isn't close to done. The producer even said that demo was 20% of the final game.

I'm just worried that "assists fighting each other" means something similar to the scripted sequences of rapid strikes that the active characters do to each other on certain collisions.

However that could also be some kind of unfinished feature that was in the E3 build.

I would assume it'd be another way to spend meter. One of the primary goals of ASW is to make this an Evo main stream title, so I don't imagine there to be a ton of scripted sequences. This will be a serious fighter.
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It cant be as boring as injustice or sfv
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MemeDaddy posted...

I would assume it'd be another way to spend meter. One of the primary goals of ASW is to make this an Evo main stream title, so I don't imagine there to be a ton of scripted sequences. This will be a serious fighter.

Scripting may have been kind of a poor choice of words. The scripting of the rapid strikes is pretty short. It's got more in common with grapple-type moves in the sense that there is basically nothing you can do until the animation finishes playing out, but they aren't grapples and aren't initiated like grapples. In addition to hitting someone with the rapid strikes thing, it's also possible to "tie" when they hit at the same time in which case it causes a kind of distance reset after a short sequence where the characters trade and block strikes.
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Dragon Rush

ManSpread posted...

It cant be as boring as injustice or sfv

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