Board 8 > So it turns out Nick Robinson from Polygon is a piece of shit.

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StealThisSheen
08/06/17 3:16:49 AM
#201:


Wanglicious posted...
where does he pat himself on the back,


"There is a guy out there who is going to celebrate you for exactly who you are, someone who will love you like I love my Sarah."

That is extremely self back pat-ish
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Jakyl25
08/06/17 3:17:49 AM
#202:


It's funny how he brings feminism into it too.

It's like maybe he half paid attention to a single feminism lecture because this is not most people's feminism
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iiicon
08/06/17 3:19:05 AM
#203:


MoogleKupo141 posted...
also he just seems like he sucks so it'a fun to pile on him

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DGa7yxaVoAIZgzZ?format=jpg&name=large

https://twitter.com/nomchompsky/status/893523652951633921

yeah it seems like they both deserve each other
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ChaosTonyV4
08/06/17 3:19:22 AM
#204:


CaptainOfCrush posted...
Hypothetical question about the Nick Robinson situation: suppose the woman who shared their messages via Twitter had actually met up with him and hooked up voluntarily (let's say she gave me that bj she claims he asked for). Then later, she looks back on it with regret and emotional pain, claiming that he had manipulated her. Would he look even worse right now, or would his advances seem less indecent since she reciprocated to the point of consent?


I think the public perception and talk would be about statuatory rape, considering the awkward flirting DM's are being called sexual harassment.

She already admitted she sent him lewds, but people seem to be overlooking that.
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Wanglicious
08/06/17 3:19:34 AM
#205:


StealThisSheen posted...

The tone is a little... Interesting. Like, what's the point of continually pointing out things and how they're flaws to people


well, he does start with addressing how they were always told to him that they were flaws, that he was teased about it when he was younger, and that he learned over time they weren't.

so starting with that makes sense.
then he points out that they aren't flaws and they're things that make fat chicks great.

Jakyl25 posted...


Pointing out everything societally undesirable about your wife in the process of telling her how much you love her regardless is a really shitty way to compliment someone


it's not "love her regardless."
it's "loves the way she looks, including that."
none of those things are undesirable to him and he doesn't feel any of them should be undesirable to anyone.

his argument on that is directly stating that society's got it wrong. this is the difference of "in spite" and "because," more or less. former's negative, latter's positive. he's saying the positive, you're taking the negative.
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Jakyl25
08/06/17 3:20:38 AM
#206:


iiicon posted...
MoogleKupo141 posted...
also he just seems like he sucks so it'a fun to pile on him

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DGa7yxaVoAIZgzZ?format=jpg&name=large

https://twitter.com/nomchompsky/status/893523652951633921

yeah it seems like they both deserve each other


Oh fucking hell
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Jakyl25
08/06/17 3:24:44 AM
#207:


Wanglicious posted...


it's not "love her regardless."
it's "loves the way she looks, including that."
none of those things are undesirable to him and he doesn't feel any of them should be undesirable to anyone.

his argument on that is directly stating that society's got it wrong. this is the difference of "in spite" and "because," more or less. former's negative, latter's positive. he's saying the positive, you're taking the negative.


Okay then, pointing out everything societally undesirable about your wife in the process of telling her how much he, the enlightened one, appreciates her jelly rolls is a really shitty way to compliment someone.
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Wanglicious
08/06/17 3:26:46 AM
#208:


MoogleKupo141 posted...

Movie characters and porn stars can just as easily refer to real human women who are conventionally attractive, since the whole thing is about how is wife doesn't fit into that convention. He also references women on the cover of Cosmo, which again, are real human beings. Mannequin is the outlier here, and it's use is just to reinforce the "fakeness" of the conventionally attractive women he's deriding.


they could refer to standard lean women (who he does reference, sure) but why would mannequin be the outlier? and he didn't reference any old mannequin, he specifically talked about the bikini ones. as in the ones that tend to have a giant rack and a slim body. if you read a sentence that includes that and porn stars, are you thinking of the ones who are slim or the ones with giant fake tits? you aren't thinking of these things in the whole "perpetrating unrealistic beauty standards" way that Barbie/cartoons get thrown into as well? something Hollywood is constantly accused of?

StealThisSheen posted...

"There is a guy out there who is going to celebrate you for exactly who you are, someone who will love you like I love my Sarah."

That is extremely self back pat-ish


okay yeah, that one's fair.
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Jakyl25
08/06/17 3:27:01 AM
#209:


Like, let's look at how smooth R&B crooner John Legend says it:

"Love your curves and all your edges
All your perfect imperfections"

Vs enlightened feminist on Instagram
"I love the way your jeans barely fit your paunch"
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StealThisSheen
08/06/17 3:27:35 AM
#210:


Somebody said it earlier and it kinda got ignored, but it really is basically like going "I love my husband despite his tiny penis. Society normally looks down on tiny penises, but my husband's nearly microscopic penis is adorable. Men with tiny penises, hold out hope that you'll find somebody that loves tiny penises as much as I do."
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CaptainOfCrush
08/06/17 3:27:55 AM
#211:


I was about to post "I'd be surprised if his wife wasn't pissed at him for that post," but she has her own website that is at least partially focused on body positivity and really embracing her curvy figure (and using it to sell stuff). So yeah, it's a business for this couple. They probably couldn't be more thrilled.

BACK TO NICK ROBINSON
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Jakyl25
08/06/17 3:28:56 AM
#212:


Wanglicious posted...
if you read a sentence that includes that and porn stars, are you thinking of the ones who are slim or the ones with giant fake t***?


This is really dissecting things out but there's nothing inherently wrong with those women either.
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Jakyl25
08/06/17 3:29:58 AM
#213:


StealThisSheen posted...
Somebody said it earlier and it kinda got ignored, but it really is basically like going "I love my husband despite his tiny penis. Society normally looks down on tiny penises, but my husband's nearly microscopic penis is adorable. Men with tiny penises, hold out hope that you'll find somebody that loves tiny penises as much as I do."


Yeah I kinda wanted to do a whole re-write of the post from that POV but I'm sure that already exists
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Jakyl25
08/06/17 3:33:37 AM
#214:


CaptainOfCrush posted...
BACK TO NICK ROBINSON


He likes women who have a hentai body just like in his Japanese animes so I'm gonna guess he doesn't agree with chubby chaser
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Wanglicious
08/06/17 3:34:10 AM
#215:


nah, it's not. for one, tiny dick acceptance is a long ways away from banging a fat chick and has a pretty direct limiting factor with sex when it comes to being able to pleasure your partner. you also can't really do anything about it, you're kinda stuck with what you got. being fat differs greatly in that you can gain or lose weight. this carries its own set of problems and bad habits (e.g., eating disorders) that are issues at varying levels, whereas having a tiny dick just means you'd better be the best guy at making knots with cherries stems.

i get the desire to make the comparison but it makes a lot more sense to switch the roles around and make it a fat dude. seems pretty direct.
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Jakyl25
08/06/17 3:39:48 AM
#216:


Deformed scrotum that hangs low then

Also I actually just looked at the picture of his wife

She's not even really fat

Like yeah she's "thicc" as the youth say but seriously dude no one is laughing at you for being attracted to a size 10
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CaptainOfCrush
08/06/17 3:40:36 AM
#217:


Wanglicious posted...
tiny dick acceptance is a long ways away from banging a fat chick

Any man who is publicly outed for having a small penis (assuming he's a regular dude and did nothing to arouse the ire of the internet) will receive nothing but overwhelming sympathy from people, and the wife who outed him will be completely scorned.
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Wanglicious
08/06/17 3:40:48 AM
#218:


Jakyl25 posted...

This is really dissecting things out but there's nothing inherently wrong with those women either.


sure, but the point he's making there is that such things are unrealistic standards. that's why i ask if Barbie and cartoon would've magically changed it, since this all falls under the same umbrella. you're just asking for a specific nuance that seems unreasonable here as it's taking what he's saying too literally and not what he's meaning to say. he ain't a poet, it's on the level of teenage poetry, but that just says he's gotta get better at it.

CaptainOfCrush posted...
I was about to post "I'd be surprised if his wife wasn't pissed at him for that post," but she has her own website that is at least partially focused on body positivity and really embracing her curvy figure (and using it to sell stuff). So yeah, it's a business for this couple. They probably couldn't be more thrilled.

BACK TO NICK ROBINSON


this doesn't surprise me in the least. i assume she liked what he wrote too.
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MoogleKupo141
08/06/17 3:41:46 AM
#219:


hey could refer to standard lean women (who he does reference, sure) but why would mannequin be the outlier? and he didn't reference any old mannequin, he specifically talked about the bikini ones. as in the ones that tend to have a giant rack and a slim body. if you read a sentence that includes that and porn stars, are you thinking of the ones who are slim or the ones with giant fake t***? you aren't thinking of these things in the whole "perpetrating unrealistic beauty standards" way that Barbie/cartoons get thrown into as well? something Hollywood is constantly accused of


Mannequin is there mixed in with the actual human women because he wants to establish the women who don't look like his wife as fake. Fat wife is better than them because only fat wife and other heavy women are somehow "real".

Which comes back to him coming across like he thinks he's a hero. It's not just about him being a guy who likes his thicc wife, it's about him triumphantly escaping society's fake beauty standards by loving a "real" woman. He says
the media marginalizes women by portraying a very narrow and very specific standard of beauty (thin, tall, lean) I realized how many men have bought into that lie.
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Jakyl25
08/06/17 3:45:46 AM
#220:


Wanglicious posted...
he ain't a poet, it's on the level of teenage poetry, but that just says he's gotta get better at it.


And when you post your teenage poetry on the internet intending for it to open peoples' eyes, it's gonna get mocked
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MoogleKupo141
08/06/17 3:46:40 AM
#221:


and to be clear, I don't think this guy is some monster or that he doesn't really love his wife or whatever, I just think he wrote it more as an act of self-promotion than as an act of love for her.
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Wanglicious
08/06/17 3:46:56 AM
#222:


Jakyl25 posted...

Like yeah she's "thicc" as the youth say


fuck no she's not.
thicc has better thighs, slimmer waist, and bigger boobs. ironically it's also an unrealistic beauty standard that isn't doable in 3D very well but 2D has been perfecting it.

i will reject that being called thicc. she's chubby and not at all curvy but that's it.

CaptainOfCrush posted...

Any man who is publicly outed for having a small penis (assuming he's a regular dude and did nothing to arouse the ire of the internet) will receive nothing but overwhelming sympathy from people, and the wife who outed him will be completely scorned.


right, because everyone understands it's a permanent problem that's beyond his control and something he's 100% self conscious on. it's pointing out a major flaw in his sexual ability that can't be controlled. but that's not acceptance, that's just feeling sorry for the guy. it's people going "well, you got dealt the literal short straw, sucks to be you."

all of this is different from "hey, dude banged a fattie."
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Jakyl25
08/06/17 3:52:32 AM
#223:


Like from his post I seriously expected this woman to be obese and she's barely even overweight
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Jakyl25
08/06/17 4:00:21 AM
#224:


Also Wang I think you're twisting the hypothetical

It would be like this guy's post; the wife would be gushing about how she is in love with his tiny penis, it's super attractive, and other women have it wrong.

You're making it out like she's exposing it maliciously
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Wanglicious
08/06/17 4:02:19 AM
#225:


Jakyl25 posted...

And when you post your teenage poetry on the internet intending for it to open peoples' eyes, it's gonna get mocked


yeah and i'm fine with that. i'm totally on board with mocking him too, though more in the sense of 'that ain't a curve but you do you' kind of way, not really in the sense of putting him down for not using the right words when the meaning still comes out.
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Lightning Strikes
08/06/17 4:13:32 AM
#226:


MoogleKupo141 posted...
Lightning Strikes posted...
I've been to that place. It's like a 20 minute walk from my family home. Does this mean I suck?.


kinda, but less than the guy who chose that as the one place he wanted to go on his trip. The concept of a cereal bar is hipster nonsense and I hate it irrationally.


Well it's on Brick Lane so if you go there you have to be down with that sort of thing. Actually if you're going to a major city nowadays you should probably embrace a certain level of hipsterdom. Dare I say that's just what modern culture is.
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Wanglicious
08/06/17 4:15:50 AM
#227:


Jakyl25 posted...

It would be like this guy's post; the wife would be gushing about how she is in love with his tiny penis, it's super attractive, and other women have it wrong.

You're making it out like she's exposing it maliciously


nothing to do with malice there, just that even if it were attempted to being in the same way it wouldn't work as a fair comparison. he's stuck with that, he doesn't have control of that, it's a clear limiting factor for sex. you can gush about that all you want, none of that's going to change. people's reactions would also be considerably different too - they'd feel bad for the guy because it's something he's stuck with. being fat? it's dynamic. you can be skinny, fat, you can work out certain body parts to tone yourself up, you can have eating disorders that make you gain weight or lose weight, etc. there's a load of problems and differences that come about from this change alone, if you want a fair comparison it should also be something that's mostly a choice, not something that you're stuck with.

and mind you, there isn't any nice way to say "I love that you have a tiny dick!" because it's an understood flaw already, both genetically and across society. there's no change in that perception at all. chasing fat chicks is far more accepted and isn't viewed as much of a flaw. at least not at these chubby chasing levels anyway.
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MoogleKupo141
08/06/17 4:21:53 AM
#228:


Lightning Strikes posted...
MoogleKupo141 posted...
Lightning Strikes posted...
I've been to that place. It's like a 20 minute walk from my family home. Does this mean I suck?.


kinda, but less than the guy who chose that as the one place he wanted to go on his trip. The concept of a cereal bar is hipster nonsense and I hate it irrationally.


Well it's on Brick Lane so if you go there you have to be down with that sort of thing. Actually if you're going to a major city nowadays you should probably embrace a certain level of hipsterdom. Dare I say that's just what modern culture is.


dealing with the encroaching hipsterness is a daily struggle.
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Wanglicious
08/06/17 4:26:03 AM
#229:


for what it's worth, i too reject these cereal places.
so we agree on something.
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MenuWars
08/06/17 9:36:42 AM
#230:


First I've heard of these people too, unless the curvy wife person is some sort of E - Celeb that's been courting controversy, gang banging him for his relationship opinions seems ridiculous. Also who gives a fuck what some random person thinks?

Surely there's more to this than just some dude who's into his THICC wife? wat?
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Jakyl25
08/06/17 10:01:26 AM
#231:


It's just something that went viral as people had discussions as we did in this topic about whether it's a good message or not.

The internet does that some times. Remember "The Dress?"
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MenuWars
08/06/17 10:03:19 AM
#232:


Good point, we're all doomed.
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ExThaNemesis
08/06/17 10:27:30 AM
#233:


MenuWars posted...
Surely there's more to this than just some dude who's into his THICC wife? wat?


"Man guilty of being a man on the internet."
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redrocket_pub
08/07/17 9:41:35 AM
#234:


Updates?
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Wanglicious
08/07/17 10:30:45 AM
#235:


there isn't any yet.
maybe later today since it's Monday.
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MenuWars
08/07/17 5:37:35 PM
#236:


Have seen nor heard nothing of this since when it first started. Was it as simple as he accepted his fate and boom he's gone and done dusted with? The internets not usually happy with a quiet almost amicable outcome.
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ExThaNemesis
08/07/17 5:39:01 PM
#237:


Perhaps there was a new man guilty of being a man on the internet that drew their ire?
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LapisLazuli
08/07/17 5:52:23 PM
#238:


You gotta diversify your act, man.
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ExThaNemesis
08/07/17 5:57:04 PM
#239:


I'll avoid taking lessons in... well, just about anything from you kthx
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LapisLazuli
08/07/17 5:58:13 PM
#240:


That's just hammering the point home!
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Jakyl25
08/07/17 6:00:58 PM
#241:


People tease me when I say I love a man as thick as ExTha, but they're just brainwashed by the media into unattainable standards of excellence
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ExThaNemesis
08/07/17 6:02:25 PM
#242:


LapisLazuli posted...
That's just hammering the point home!


I'm positive that my catalog of posts in the last six months is far more diverse than yours. Have you done anything other than whine about politics in that time?
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Mr Lasastryke
08/07/17 6:30:59 PM
#243:


lol @ extha going "OMG HAVE YOU GUYS EVER TALKED TO A WOMAN THIS IS HOW ALL MEN TALK TO WOMEN."

i would never use that fucking stupid emoji when talking to either a woman or a man via DM.
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ExThaNemesis
08/07/17 6:37:53 PM
#244:


yeah man it's all about the emojis. that was the point.
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LapisLazuli
08/07/17 6:45:50 PM
#245:


ExThaNemesis posted...
LapisLazuli posted...
That's just hammering the point home!


I'm positive that my catalog of posts in the last six months is far more diverse than yours. Have you done anything other than whine about politics in that time?


...in the politics topic? No, that's kind of the point of it after all.
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Mr Lasastryke
08/07/17 6:50:01 PM
#246:


ExThaNemesis posted...
yeah man it's all about the emojis. that was the point.


my point wasn't the emoji either, it was "he comes off pretty douchy in those messages and i'm pretty sure there are plenty of men who don't, in fact, talk to women like that." the emoji was an example of that douchiness.
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ChaosTonyV4
08/07/17 6:56:42 PM
#247:


I'm with ExTha for like the first time ever.

I've seen at least a dozen apologies ("I'm so sorry this happened to you") to both the women who've released screenshots, and literally nothing in those screenshots seems weird to me.

Cheesy? Sure, but "sexual harassment"? Holy fuck, that's scary if his messages read as harassment to you.
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Wanglicious
08/07/17 7:25:09 PM
#248:


all i'm getting from this topic now is that The Emoji Movie is the date flick of the season.
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ExThaNemesis
08/07/17 7:29:25 PM
#249:


ChaosTonyV4 posted...
I'm with ExTha for like the first time ever.

I've seen at least a dozen apologies ("I'm so sorry this happened to you") to both the women who've released screenshots, and literally nothing in those screenshots seems weird to me.

Cheesy? Sure, but "sexual harassment"? Holy fuck, that's scary if his messages read as harassment to you.


Now that I have you with me for a second, what if I told you that the end goal of shit like this is to terrify low status males out of making any kind of sexual advances.

Like there's a long game at play here where the definition of "sexual harassment" is shifting from actual harassment to "any sort of thing that makes me feel remotely uncomfortable."

If you can buy that people are willingly seeing these cheesy, stupid messages as sexual harassment, maybe you can see how insidious the reasoning behind it is.
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MenuWars
08/07/17 7:29:27 PM
#250:


Wanglicious posted...
all i'm getting from this topic now is that The Emoji Movie is the date flick of the season.


(joke post)
I'd consider it pseudo negging because if you take someone to see that anything's gonna look great in comparison.
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