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whitewimmin 07/31/17 4:54:37 PM #1:	https://twitter.com/Ry_Bass/status/892119504884551680 Article about the issue from before his decision: http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/19626695/ucf-kicker-donald-de-la-haye-asked-stop-making-money-youtube-videos Central Florida kicker Donald De La Haye has a popular channel on YouTube, and in his most recent video he says UCF asked him to stop making money off his videos so that he can preserve his amateur status. In the video "Quit College Sports or Quit YouTube," De La Haye said, "I feel like they're making me pick between my passion in what I love to do, make videos and entertain, be creative, and my other passion, which is playing football." A source said UCF never gave De La Haye an ultimatum; rather, he met with members of the compliance staff and they offered to work toward a solution. The NCAA referred all comments to UCF, saying that it has not received a waiver from the school in regard to the matter. In a statement, UCF said, "UCF Athletics is committed to rules compliance. Our compliance staff strives to make sure our student-athletes are informed about all pertinent NCAA bylaws. Student-athletes attend regular educational meetings regarding NCAA eligibility. One of our goals is to help our student-athletes learn about the bylaws that govern intercollegiate athletics, in an effort to help them maintain their eligibility." De La Haye has made 41 videos that show his daily life, including what it is like to be a student-athlete. Because he hit 10,000 lifetime views, he was able to make money off ads placed on his videos. At issue is NCAA bylaw 12.4.4, which states an athlete "may establish his or her own business, provided the student-athlete's name, photograph, appearance or athletics reputation are not used to promote the business." --- Liberte, egalite, fraternite <cite>whitewimmin posted [p:883942629] in NCAA rules... [t:75624574]...</cite> <quote>https://twitter.com/Ry_Bass/status/892119504884551680 Article about the issue from before his decision: http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/19626695/ucf-kicker-donald-de-la-haye-asked-stop-making-money-youtube-videos <quote>Central Florida kicker Donald De La Haye has a popular channel on YouTube, and in his most recent video he says UCF asked him to stop making money off his videos so that he can preserve his amateur status. In the video "Quit College Sports or Quit YouTube," De La Haye said, "I feel like they're making me pick between my passion in what I love to do, make videos and entertain, be creative, and my other passion, which is playing football." A source said UCF never gave De La Haye an ultimatum; rather, he met with members of the compliance staff and they offered to work toward a solution. The NCAA referred all comments to UCF, saying that it has not received a waiver from the school in regard to the matter. In a statement, UCF said, "UCF Athletics is committed to rules compliance. Our compliance staff strives to make sure our student-athletes are informed about all pertinent NCAA bylaws. Student-athletes attend regular educational meetings regarding NCAA eligibility. One of our goals is to help our student-athletes learn about the bylaws that govern intercollegiate athletics, in an effort to help them maintain their eligibility." De La Haye has made 41 videos that show his daily life, including what it is like to be a student-athlete. Because he hit 10,000 lifetime views, he was able to make money off ads placed on his videos. At issue is NCAA bylaw 12.4.4, which states an athlete "may establish his or her own business, provided the student-athlete's name, photograph, appearance or athletics reputation are not used to promote the business." </quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Fill_Kessel 07/31/17 4:56:11 PM #2:	This should change the public perception of the NCAA. --- NHL Insider, you're welcome <cite>Fill_Kessel posted [p:883942718] in NCAA rules... [t:75624574]...</cite> <quote>This should change the public perception of the NCAA.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 07/31/17 4:56:19 PM #3:	You literally don't own your appearance if you play college sports. Fucking NCAA. --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:883942725] in NCAA rules... [t:75624574]...</cite> <quote>You literally don't own your appearance if you play college sports. Fucking NCAA.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheBiggerWiggle 07/31/17 4:57:23 PM #4:	The NCAA needs to be completed disbanded and rebuilt from the ground up. --- I have trouble concentrating because I have 80HD. <cite>TheBiggerWiggle posted [p:883942789] in NCAA rules... [t:75624574]...</cite> <quote>The NCAA needs to be completed disbanded and rebuilt from the ground up.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
eston 07/31/17 4:57:47 PM #5:	In the video "Quit College Sports or Quit YouTube," De La Haye said, "I feel like they're making me pick between my passion in what I love to do, make videos and entertain, be creative, and my other passion, which is playing football." No, what they're telling you is that you can't make money off of the videos --- http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i215/estonc/grizzly_bear_chairs_2.jpg http://i.imgur.com/8kjZU.jpg <cite>eston posted [p:883942818] in NCAA rules... [t:75624574]...</cite> <quote><quote>In the video "Quit College Sports or Quit YouTube," De La Haye said, "I feel like they're making me pick between my passion in what I love to do, make videos and entertain, be creative, and my other passion, which is playing football."</quote> No, what they're telling you is that you can't make money off of the videos</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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darkphoenix181 07/31/17 4:58:14 PM #7:	hockeybub89 posted... You literally don't own your appearance if you play college sports. Fucking NCAA. and aren't paid for them now owning it either --- sigless user is me or am I? <cite>darkphoenix181 posted [p:883942841] in NCAA rules... [t:75624574]...</cite> <quote><cite>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote>You literally don't own your appearance if you play college sports. Fucking NCAA.</quote> and aren't paid for them now owning it either</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Fill_Kessel 07/31/17 4:58:43 PM #8:	Honestly, at this points the players need to either unionize, force a work stoppage, protest or stfu. It's been widely known for years that the NCAA is a corrupt pos organization that basically operates like an old timey slave plantation. --- NHL Insider, you're welcome <cite>Fill_Kessel posted [p:883942871] in NCAA rules... [t:75624574]...</cite> <quote>Honestly, at this points the players need to either unionize, force a work stoppage, protest or stfu. It's been widely known for years that the NCAA is a corrupt pos organization that basically operates like an old timey slave plantation.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Butterfiles 07/31/17 4:59:30 PM #9:	God the ncaa is the actual worst --- http://www.last.fm/user/PigBun 56k warning <cite>Butterfiles posted [p:883942919] in NCAA rules... [t:75624574]...</cite> <quote>God the ncaa is the actual worst</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ChromaticAngel 07/31/17 4:59:43 PM #10:	RedWhiteBlue posted... hockeybub89 posted... You literally don't own your appearance if you play college sports. Fucking NCAA. I wonder if you can claim you're effectively a slave if you don't have your own freedom to your own appearance. You always own your own appearance, but if you're making money off it, you can't play college sports. It's not really a hard concept to grasp. --- https://puu.sh/tcLsT/24f4611235.png <cite>ChromaticAngel posted [p:883942932] in NCAA rules... [t:75624574]...</cite> <quote><cite>RedWhiteBlue posted...</cite> <quote><cite>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote>You literally don't own your appearance if you play college sports. Fucking NCAA.</quote> I wonder if you can claim you're effectively a slave if you don't have your own freedom to your own appearance.</quote> You always own your own appearance, but if you're making money off it, you can't play college sports. It's not really a hard concept to grasp.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkphoenix181 07/31/17 5:01:22 PM #11:	ChromaticAngel posted... RedWhiteBlue posted... hockeybub89 posted... You literally don't own your appearance if you play college sports. Fucking NCAA. I wonder if you can claim you're effectively a slave if you don't have your own freedom to your own appearance. You always own your own appearance, but if you're making money off it, you can't play college sports. It's not really a hard concept to grasp. why though? why can't you model for briefs as a side job since you aren't getting paid by the NCAA? --- sigless user is me or am I? <cite>darkphoenix181 posted [p:883943033] in NCAA rules... [t:75624574]...</cite> <quote><cite>ChromaticAngel posted...</cite> <quote><cite>RedWhiteBlue posted...</cite> <quote><cite>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote>You literally don't own your appearance if you play college sports. Fucking NCAA.</quote> I wonder if you can claim you're effectively a slave if you don't have your own freedom to your own appearance.</quote> You always own your own appearance, but if you're making money off it, you can't play college sports. It's not really a hard concept to grasp.</quote> why though? why can't you model for briefs as a side job since you aren't getting paid by the NCAA?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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iamintents 07/31/17 5:02:36 PM #13:	Fill_Kessel posted... This should change the public perception of the NCAA. doesnt seem to matter since the boards that control these schools and the ncaa are so fucking corrupt. --- http://i.imgur.com/rCECrB9.gif <cite>iamintents posted [p:883943106] in NCAA rules... [t:75624574]...</cite> <quote><cite>Fill_Kessel posted...</cite> <quote>This should change the public perception of the NCAA.</quote> doesnt seem to matter since the boards that control these schools and the ncaa are so fucking corrupt.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
iPhone_7 07/31/17 5:03:17 PM #14:	Did he have the channel before playing in the NCAA and was the content of the videos unrelated to playing in the NCAA? --- Sig User Logic http://i.imgur.com/lA5fm7w.jpg <cite>iPhone_7 posted [p:883943154] in NCAA rules... [t:75624574]...</cite> <quote>Did he have the channel before playing in the NCAA and was the content of the videos unrelated to playing in the NCAA?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ChromaticAngel 07/31/17 5:04:02 PM #15:	darkphoenix181 posted... why though? why can't you model for briefs as a side job since you aren't getting paid by the NCAA? Because legal issues surrounding this stuff could lose them their tax immunity which is way more important to them than some player. It's a business. It exists to make money. Not to help college kids fulfill their dreams. Not to entertain the fans who otherwise have no other avenue to watch college sports. --- https://puu.sh/tcLsT/24f4611235.png <cite>ChromaticAngel posted [p:883943184] in NCAA rules... [t:75624574]...</cite> <quote><cite>darkphoenix181 posted...</cite> <quote>why though? why can't you model for briefs as a side job since you aren't getting paid by the NCAA?</quote> Because legal issues surrounding this stuff could lose them their tax immunity which is way more important to them than some player. It's a business. It exists to make money. Not to help college kids fulfill their dreams. Not to entertain the fans who otherwise have no other avenue to watch college sports.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 07/31/17 5:05:03 PM #16:	ChromaticAngel posted... RedWhiteBlue posted... hockeybub89 posted... You literally don't own your appearance if you play college sports. Fucking NCAA. I wonder if you can claim you're effectively a slave if you don't have your own freedom to your own appearance. You always own your own appearance, but if you're making money off it, you can't play college sports. It's not really a hard concept to grasp. It is a very hard concept to grasp because it is bullshit. Playing sports in college shouldn't be a handicap. 99% of the student athletes are just students that want to play sports while they are there. If you are an academic scholarship student or belong to a school program that isn't athletic in nature, no one is screaming at you for making YouTube videos, washing your car, or having someone buy you lunch. The NCAA is rotten. --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:883943239] in NCAA rules... [t:75624574]...</cite> <quote><cite>ChromaticAngel posted...</cite> <quote><cite>RedWhiteBlue posted...</cite> <quote><cite>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote>You literally don't own your appearance if you play college sports. Fucking NCAA.</quote> I wonder if you can claim you're effectively a slave if you don't have your own freedom to your own appearance.</quote> You always own your own appearance, but if you're making money off it, you can't play college sports. It's not really a hard concept to grasp.</quote> It is a very hard concept to grasp because it is bullshit. Playing sports in college shouldn't be a handicap. 99% of the student athletes are just students that want to play sports while they are there. If you are an academic scholarship student or belong to a school program that isn't athletic in nature, no one is screaming at you for making YouTube videos, washing your car, or having someone buy you lunch. The NCAA is rotten.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
I Like Toast 07/31/17 5:06:44 PM #17:	TheBiggerWiggle posted... and rebuilt from the ground up. Nope --- If you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all <cite>I Like Toast posted [p:883943338] in NCAA rules... [t:75624574]...</cite> <quote><cite>TheBiggerWiggle posted...</cite> <quote>and rebuilt from the ground up.</quote> Nope</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 07/31/17 5:07:17 PM #18:	ChromaticAngel posted... darkphoenix181 posted... why though? why can't you model for briefs as a side job since you aren't getting paid by the NCAA? Because legal issues surrounding this stuff could lose them their tax immunity which is way more important to them than some player. It's a business. It exists to make money. Not to help college kids fulfill their dreams. Not to entertain the fans who otherwise have no other avenue to watch college sports. How does a student making money or committing one of the other nonsense NCAA violations cost the school money? This isn't even about schools paying athletes. --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:883943367] in NCAA rules... [t:75624574]...</cite> <quote><cite>ChromaticAngel posted...</cite> <quote><cite>darkphoenix181 posted...</cite> <quote>why though? why can't you model for briefs as a side job since you aren't getting paid by the NCAA?</quote> Because legal issues surrounding this stuff could lose them their tax immunity which is way more important to them than some player. It's a business. It exists to make money. Not to help college kids fulfill their dreams. Not to entertain the fans who otherwise have no other avenue to watch college sports.</quote> How does a student making money or committing one of the other nonsense NCAA violations cost the school money? This isn't even about schools paying athletes.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DarthAragorn 07/31/17 5:09:13 PM #19:	The NCAA is a fucking shitshow. --- A thousand eyes, and one. <cite>DarthAragorn posted [p:883943488] in NCAA rules... [t:75624574]...</cite> <quote>The NCAA is a fucking shitshow.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JamaalCharles39 07/31/17 5:09:33 PM #20:	Reminds me of Terrelle Pryor getting punished for getting free tattoos --- Tony Gonzalez is the best TE ever, nobody is even close to being as great as him. http://big.assets.huffingtonpost.com/chiefs-celebration-11-12-12.gif <cite>JamaalCharles39 posted [p:883943512] in NCAA rules... [t:75624574]...</cite> <quote>Reminds me of Terrelle Pryor getting punished for getting free tattoos</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ChromaticAngel 07/31/17 5:12:19 PM #21:	hockeybub89 posted... How does a student making money or committing one of the other nonsense NCAA violations cost the school money? This isn't even about schools paying athletes. It doesn't cost the school anything. It costs the NCAA their tax immunity. --- https://puu.sh/tcLsT/24f4611235.png <cite>ChromaticAngel posted [p:883943665] in NCAA rules... [t:75624574]...</cite> <quote><cite>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote> How does a student making money or committing one of the other nonsense NCAA violations cost the school money? This isn't even about schools paying athletes. </quote> It doesn't cost the school anything. It costs the NCAA their tax immunity.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Fill_Kessel 07/31/17 5:14:53 PM #22:	How much of this is the athlete's fault? --- NHL Insider, you're welcome <cite>Fill_Kessel posted [p:883943828] in NCAA rules... [t:75624574]...</cite> <quote>How much of this is the athlete's fault?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
I Like Toast 07/31/17 5:17:26 PM #23:	ChromaticAngel posted... It costs the NCAA their tax immunity. What mythical law do you think is about college amateur athlete status. Hint: there is none. The NCAA is tax free for the same reason that the NFL is. --- If you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all <cite>I Like Toast posted [p:883943986] in NCAA rules... [t:75624574]...</cite> <quote><cite>ChromaticAngel posted...</cite> <quote>It costs the NCAA their tax immunity.</quote> What mythical law do you think is about college amateur athlete status. Hint: there is none. The NCAA is tax free for the same reason that the NFL is.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ChromaticAngel 07/31/17 5:20:37 PM #24:	I Like Toast posted... ChromaticAngel posted... It costs the NCAA their tax immunity. What mythical law do you think is about college amateur athlete status. Hint: there is none. The NCAA is tax free for the same reason that the NFL is. The NFL tax exemption is constantly under jeopardy and it's maintained only by their persistance in distancing themselves from the actual teams which are not tax exempt. People are trying to kill the NFL's tax status even today. The NCAA's worst public issue is "dumb rules" --- https://puu.sh/tcLsT/24f4611235.png <cite>ChromaticAngel posted [p:883944168] in NCAA rules... [t:75624574]...</cite> <quote><cite>I Like Toast posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ChromaticAngel posted...</cite> <quote>It costs the NCAA their tax immunity.</quote> What mythical law do you think is about college amateur athlete status. Hint: there is none. The NCAA is tax free for the same reason that the NFL is.</quote> The NFL tax exemption is constantly under jeopardy and it's maintained only by their persistance in distancing themselves from the actual teams which are not tax exempt. People are trying to kill the NFL's tax status even today. The NCAA's worst public issue is "dumb rules"</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Teh_Dr_Phil 07/31/17 5:21:59 PM #25:	lol --- Yep. <cite>Teh_Dr_Phil posted [p:883944247] in NCAA rules... [t:75624574]...</cite> <quote>lol</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 07/31/17 5:24:25 PM #26:	ChromaticAngel posted... hockeybub89 posted... How does a student making money or committing one of the other nonsense NCAA violations cost the school money? This isn't even about schools paying athletes. It doesn't cost the school anything. It costs the NCAA their tax immunity. If that's true, then abolish the NCAA or change the rules while we're talking about stupid rules. Actually, let's just abolish the NCAA. --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:883944401] in NCAA rules... [t:75624574]...</cite> <quote><cite>ChromaticAngel posted...</cite> <quote><cite>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote> How does a student making money or committing one of the other nonsense NCAA violations cost the school money? This isn't even about schools paying athletes. </quote> It doesn't cost the school anything. It costs the NCAA their tax immunity.</quote> If that's true, then abolish the NCAA or change the rules while we're talking about stupid rules. Actually, let's just abolish the NCAA.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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