Current Events > Rape accusations can even be deadly

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People need to take false accusations more seriously. I've been watching alot of Investigation Discovery lately and I have seen like 2 or 3 cases where someone was falsely accused of rape and then people believed it and killed them in vigilante justice

But it will discourage real victims from reporting their rape omg!
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Yeah well cops need to take the crime more seriously and not release rapists for "good behavior" after a few months.

Neither bad erases the other.

I genuinely think we need to educate and fix both
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St0rmFury posted...

But it will discourage real victims from reporting their rape omg!

Why do you say that like a joke? Unreported rape is a serious problem. Part of it is because of the grueling process done to "prove" it which if those liars didn't do in the first place would be greatly remedied.
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End the automatic anonymity for accusers while automatically revealing the accused, and the problem will solve itself. Either both parties are anonymous, or neither are.

Questionmarktarius posted...

End the automatic anonymity for accusers while automatically revealing the accused, and the problem will solve itself. Either both parties are anonymous, or neither are.

Victims shouldn't have to risk having their faces plastered all over the place when that misconception that it happens is one of many reasons girls don't report it.

Meanwhile, people should be able to be warned and be weary of someone near them who may literally be very dangerous
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St0rmFury posted...

But it will discourage real victims from reporting their rape omg!

Yeah omg that totally isnt a real thing!
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So is the argument that we shouldn't punish false rape accusations harshly because it might discourage real rape victims from reporting, regardless of how harmful it might be to someone's life?

That seems like shitty stance.
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LittleRoyal posted...

St0rmFury posted...

But it will discourage real victims from reporting their rape omg!

Why do you say that like a joke? Unreported rape is a serious problem. Part of it is because of the grueling process done to "prove" it which if those liars didn't do in the first place would be greatly remedied.

What's that line about rather having someone guilty go free than an innocent go to jail?
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We need to criminalize false accusations.
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it is very serious. but if we as a nation can't take *actual* rape seriously, I think priorities are a bit jumbled if we're skipping to just false accusations.

in a proper nation, we'd tackle both at the same time with the same seriousness.
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It's a very slippery slope both ways. On one hand, a false accusation can still follow a person for a long time even after being proved innocent just because they were accused and sometimes justice is taken into another's hands before the facts come out (prison rape, a vengeful loved one, etc). Increasing the punishment for that though will make the actual victims more reluctant to come forward because of a fear they may be falsely convicted of falsely accusing someone .

On the other hand, we all know why rape is bad. Submitting someone to a sexual encounter without consent can screw up someone psychologically and physically for the rest of their lives not to mention it's basically assuming dominion over another human being which crosses into all kinds of other things. It's considered one of the worst crimes for a reason. But if the penalty for falsely accusing is too lenient then it can be used a weapon against a regretful consensual encounter or if a person is just really pissed off at another and wants to try to ruin their life because the risk/reward is tilted in their favor.

There's really not a cut and dry way to approach it tbh.
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-Gavirulax- posted...

False rape accusations should incur the same penalty at least, worst of the worst.

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Has anyone ever been punished in a situation where the accused was found not guilty, or if there wasn't enough evidence to prosecute?
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shnangyboos posted...

Has anyone ever been punished in a situation where the accused was found not guilty, or if there wasn't enough evidence to prosecute?

Not legally. But an acquittal still stays on your criminal record so it can be difficult to buy a home or get a job after. It will always come up anytime you try to do anything major in your life, and even if you actually didn't do it, these applications are tainted in the eyes of the people at the head of what you're applying for and you will be passed over for someone with no criminal record most of the time. So yes, socially you are still punished
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WaterLink posted...

shnangyboos posted...

Has anyone ever been punished in a situation where the accused was found not guilty, or if there wasn't enough evidence to prosecute?

Not legally. But an acquittal still stays on your criminal record so it can be difficult to buy a home or get a job after. It will always come up anytime you try to do anything major in your life, and even if you actually didn't do it, these applications are tainted in the eyes of the people at the head of what you're applying for and you will be passed over for someone with no criminal record most of the time. So yes, socially you are still punished

I mean has the accuser been punished?
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shnangyboos posted...

I mean has the accuser been punished?

WaterLink posted...

Not legally

But I'd say having a blemish on your record that could cost you decisions in major times of your life despite you not doing anything is still punishment. It's just passive punishment rather than active punishment.
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dave_is_slick posted...

LittleRoyal posted...

St0rmFury posted...

But it will discourage real victims from reporting their rape omg!

Why do you say that like a joke? Unreported rape is a serious problem. Part of it is because of the grueling process done to "prove" it which if those liars didn't do in the first place would be greatly remedied.

What's that line about rather having someone guilty go free than an innocent go to jail?

Because you'll ruin an innocent life. I get it.

But a rapist could be a serial rapist and ruin several lives plus I can't stomach someone causing that much pain and trauma and going free.


And you should understand that it not only happens every day, but even though most rape goes unreported until long after and no action is taken, the rape that is reported is often not filed or taken seriously, and people aren't arrested. When arrested people get out in a few months if the cops and guards like
Them because rapists can and often do get it for good behavior. Then the victim gets a call saying their assailant is out and is told the general area they live to avoid it.


These people can give people lifelong trauma, nightmares, trust issues, fear of some pleasures in life tbh, and more.
Sometimes to adults often to kids, usually women sometimes men.

So acting like it's no big deal that these people get off so easy and usually don't even get In trouble is just not okay.
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Last time I heard about someone accusing other people of raping her, she got about two years (maybe more?) in jail, simply for the attempt.
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WaterLink posted...

shnangyboos posted...

I mean has the accuser been punished?

WaterLink posted...

Not legally

But I'd say having a blemish on your record that could cost you decisions in major times of your life despite you not doing anything is still punishment. It's just passive punishment rather than active punishment.

So if there haven't been legal punishments for accusers who's attackers get off for any reason other than the accusation being false, then it doesn't seem like the "it will keep real victims from coming forward" argument is valid.

And just out of curiosity, how are we getting unreported rape statistics? If they aren't reported, how do we know about them? This is genuine curiosity.
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LittleRoyal posted...

But a rapist could be a serial rapist and ruin several lives plus I can't stomach someone causing that much pain and trauma and going free.

I can't stomach someone being fine with hand waving away a pretty fucking important part of the justice system in the HOPES someone is caught. Fuck you.
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LittleRoyal posted...

dave_is_slick posted...

LittleRoyal posted...

St0rmFury posted...

But it will discourage real victims from reporting their rape omg!

Why do you say that like a joke? Unreported rape is a serious problem. Part of it is because of the grueling process done to "prove" it which if those liars didn't do in the first place would be greatly remedied.

What's that line about rather having someone guilty go free than an innocent go to jail?

Because you'll ruin an innocent life. I get it.

But a rapist could be a serial rapist and ruin several lives plus I can't stomach someone causing that much pain and trauma and going free.


And you should understand that it not only happens every day, but even though most rape goes unreported until long after and no action is taken, the rape that is reported is often not filed or taken seriously, and people aren't arrested. When arrested people get out in a few months if the cops and guards like
Them because rapists can and often do get it for good behavior. Then the victim gets a call saying their assailant is out and is told the general area they live to avoid it.


These people can give people lifelong trauma, nightmares, trust issues, fear of some pleasures in life tbh, and more.
Sometimes to adults often to kids, usually women sometimes men.

So acting like it's no big deal that these people get off so easy and usually don't even get In trouble is just not okay.

lol you're going ham playing devil's avocate
you're makin it way too obvious

it's a shame that CE has become so cluttered with lame gimmicks who don't even try anymore
all the masters left out of boredom, now all we got are wannabe imitators who can't even manage to be convincing
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