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ollie89
07/26/17 10:29:42 PM
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Samurontai
07/26/17 10:30:27 PM
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"See guys, I don't hate the LGBT community!"

It's literally just pandering. Like, who cares?
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mattnd2007
07/26/17 10:34:43 PM
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Samurontai posted...
"See guys, I don't hate the LGBT community!"

It's literally just pandering. Like, who cares?


unfortunately this. i used to have hope for the trump administration. cautious optimism. they have taken that and shit on everything. they haven't done anything i actually thought was a good idea yet.

and no i didn't vote for hilary. i voted for johnson.
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gatorsPENSbucs
07/26/17 10:38:17 PM
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Samurontai posted...
"See guys, I don't hate the LGBT community!"

It's literally just pandering. Like, who cares?

This shit makes me laugh. You have no idea what you're talking about, you're making something up and pretending that it's real. You don't have the slightest idea of what he's doing.
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WaterLink
07/26/17 10:40:40 PM
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Samurontai posted...
"See guys, I don't hate the LGBT community!"

It's literally just pandering. Like, who cares?

idk, i think it's kind of just confirmation bias on your part. many reasons to rip on trump, but when he actually does something good people like you still rip on him. like there's just no winning.
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DifferentialEquation
07/26/17 10:41:16 PM
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Samurontai posted...
"See guys, I don't hate the LGBT community!"

It's literally just pandering. Like, who cares?


It's not pandering. Trump is trying to do what's right for the country, not trying to please particular groups of people.

Sometimes this will be something that upsets the LGBT community, like his transgender military ban.

Sometimes this will be something that the LGBT community approves of, like appointing this man as an ambassador.

The left is just confused. After being led by people like Obama and Hillary who pander to "marginalized groups" to get votes, they're unaccustomed to someone like Trump who leads with objectivity and integrity.
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BLAKUboy
07/26/17 10:41:44 PM
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gatorsPENSbucs posted...
This shit makes me laugh. You have no idea what you're talking about, you're making something up and pretending that it's real. You don't have the slightest idea of what he's doing.

This story comes the same day as him banning transgenders from serving in the military and his DoJ arguing anti-discrimination laws don't extend to LGBT. We know exactly what he is doing.
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metralo
07/26/17 10:42:21 PM
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gatorsPENSbucs posted...
You don't have the slightest idea of what he's doing.


neither does he. in the slightest.
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ClockworkHare
07/26/17 10:42:27 PM
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At least Trump's not sending him to Russia...
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thompsontalker7
07/26/17 10:43:19 PM
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Samurontai posted...
"See guys, I don't hate the LGBT community!"

It's literally just pandering. Like, who cares?


Was gonna expect this if he had done it from the get go

There's a narrative in all of this and the other side will take it as far as they can.
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Doom_Art
07/26/17 10:44:10 PM
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*Bans transgender people from the military*
*His DoJ argues that anti-discrimination laws don't apply to LGBT people*

yeah trump is totally pro-gay LOL
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mattnd2007
07/26/17 10:44:35 PM
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thompsontalker7 posted...
Samurontai posted...
"See guys, I don't hate the LGBT community!"

It's literally just pandering. Like, who cares?


Was gonna expect this if he had done it from the get go

There's a narrative in all of this and the other side will take it as far as they can.


well the timing is kind of questionable.
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gatorsPENSbucs
07/26/17 10:45:16 PM
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BLAKUboy posted...
gatorsPENSbucs posted...
This shit makes me laugh. You have no idea what you're talking about, you're making something up and pretending that it's real. You don't have the slightest idea of what he's doing.

This story comes the same day as him banning transgenders from serving in the military and his DoJ arguing anti-discrimination laws don't extend to LGBT. We know exactly what he is doing.

No you don't.
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MysticMismagius
07/26/17 10:46:00 PM
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gatorsPENSbucs posted...
BLAKUboy posted...
gatorsPENSbucs posted...
This shit makes me laugh. You have no idea what you're talking about, you're making something up and pretending that it's real. You don't have the slightest idea of what he's doing.
This story comes the same day as him banning transgenders from serving in the military and his DoJ arguing anti-discrimination laws don't extend to LGBT. We know exactly what he is doing.
No you don't.
"Nuh-uh!"
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Doom_Art
07/26/17 10:46:01 PM
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thompsontalker7 posted...
Was gonna expect this if he had done it from the get go

There's a narrative in all of this and the other side will take it as far as they can.

i'm not sure what you're saying here

are we supposed to ignore literally everything else he and his admin have done with regards to LGBT folks?
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Blue_Inigo
07/26/17 10:46:18 PM
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BLAKUboy posted...
gatorsPENSbucs posted...
This shit makes me laugh. You have no idea what you're talking about, you're making something up and pretending that it's real. You don't have the slightest idea of what he's doing.

This story comes the same day as him banning transgenders from serving in the military and his DoJ arguing anti-discrimination laws don't extend to LGBT. We know exactly what he is doing.

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thompsontalker7
07/26/17 10:47:00 PM
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Doom_Art posted...
thompsontalker7 posted...
Was gonna expect this if he had done it from the get go

There's a narrative in all of this and the other side will take it as far as they can.

i'm not sure what you're saying here

are we supposed to ignore literally everything else he and his admin have done with regards to LGBT folks?


I'm saying this could've happened from day one and people would've still gone "pfft. this changes nothing."

Therefore outrage over this apparent hypocrisy feels empty
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Doom_Art
07/26/17 10:48:19 PM
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thompsontalker7 posted...
I'm saying this could've happened from day one and people would've still gone "pfft. this changes nothing."

i mean it really doesn't, lol
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gatorsPENSbucs
07/26/17 10:49:47 PM
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Doom_Art posted...
are we supposed to ignore literally everything else he and his admin have done with regards to LGBT folks?

So it's pretty much just fuck Trump no matter what? He said a couple things you didn't like so you'll never even consider liking him?

And that's why this country is fucked. Too many people stuck on one way and not willing to change, at all, and that's been fucking up this country more and more.

And what all have they done besides this military thing?
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thompsontalker7
07/26/17 10:51:01 PM
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Doom_Art posted...
thompsontalker7 posted...
I'm saying this could've happened from day one and people would've still gone "pfft. this changes nothing."

i mean it really doesn't, lol


Hence my thoughts that there's a narrative at play that will make everything seem like pandering.

If everything seems like pandering then there's reason to maintain contempt.

If there's contempt then there's no reason to look at the situation favorably.

If there's no reason for a favorable outcome then there's more reason to bitch.

I hate bitching. It gets very little done.
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Antifar
07/26/17 10:52:32 PM
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Appointing an ambassador is fine. It's good! But policy has a much larger, wider impact, and should be weighed more heavily in considerations of whether the Trump administration is supporting LGBT people.

Likewise, if Hillary were president, the symbolism of a woman president would be historic and noteworthy, but have less material impact on women's lives than her family leave policy.
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MysticMismagius
07/26/17 10:53:10 PM
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Antifar posted...
Appointing an ambassador is fine. But policy has a much larger, wider impact, and should be weighed more heavily in considerations of whether the Trump administration is supporting LGBT people.

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Doom_Art
07/26/17 10:57:23 PM
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gatorsPENSbucs posted...
So it's pretty much just fuck Trump no matter what? He said a couple things you didn't like so you'll never even consider liking him?

I mean he's done several very large things that I very heavily disagree with. Not to mention his rhetoric is something I find repulsive.

I'd consider liking him but he'd have to do pretty much a complete 180 as a person and politician.

gatorsPENSbucs posted...
Too many people stuck on one way and not willing to change, at all

why on earth should i bend and compromise my own personal values for this president?

thompsontalker7 posted...
Hence my thoughts that there's a narrative at play that will make everything seem like pandering.

i mean if by narrative you mean trump's own words and actions, then yes there is a narrative at play here that makes everything else seem like pandering.

thompsontalker7 posted...
If there's contempt then there's no reason to look at the situation favorably.

If there's no reason for a favorable outcome then there's more reason to bitch.

I hate bitching. It gets very little done.

i also dislike trying to look back on everything positively for the sake of being muted and inoffensive. it gets very little done.
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thompsontalker7
07/26/17 11:02:54 PM
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Doom_Art posted...

i mean if by narrative you mean trump's own words and actions, then yes there is a narrative at play here that makes everything else seem like pandering.


The narrative is that people will continue to hold Trump in contempt regardless of anything that happens positive or negative. Anything positive will weaken this narrative and therefore must be scoffed off in fear of losing focus.

That isn't me going "hurr durr give him a chance", rather that the decision has been made a long time ago by everyone and it is not going to change.

Doom_Art posted...

i also dislike trying to look back on everything positively for the sake of being muted and inoffensive. it gets very little done.


I'd imagine so. Regardless it was merely a hypothetical to point out that this entire thing was set in stone a long time ago and it kinda makes me appalled at how stubborn everyone is becoming.
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Lightsasori
07/26/17 11:06:14 PM
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The timing is definitely suspicious, right after he does the transgender ban from the military.
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ollie89
07/26/17 11:13:01 PM
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Lightsasori posted...
The timing is definitely suspicious, right after he does the transgender ban from the military.

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Samurontai
07/26/17 11:14:39 PM
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gatorsPENSbucs posted...
Samurontai posted...
"See guys, I don't hate the LGBT community!"

It's literally just pandering. Like, who cares?

This shit makes me laugh. You have no idea what you're talking about, you're making something up and pretending that it's real. You don't have the slightest idea of what he's doing.



WaterLink posted...
Samurontai posted...
"See guys, I don't hate the LGBT community!"

It's literally just pandering. Like, who cares?

idk, i think it's kind of just confirmation bias on your part. many reasons to rip on trump, but when he actually does something good people like you still rip on him. like there's just no winning.


Much wow

Such shut the fuck up

It's pandering, end of
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iamintents
07/26/17 11:17:52 PM
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gatorsPENSbucs posted...
Samurontai posted...
"See guys, I don't hate the LGBT community!"

It's literally just pandering. Like, who cares?

This shit makes me laugh. You have no idea what you're talking about, you're making something up and pretending that it's real. You don't have the slightest idea of what he's doing.

nor you
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Inferno Dive Dragoon
07/26/17 11:19:48 PM
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ImAMarvel posted...
So obviously damage control.


Took the words right out of my mouth.
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Milkman5
07/26/17 11:22:25 PM
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Doom_Art posted...
*Bans transgender people from the military*
*His DoJ argues that anti-discrimination laws don't apply to LGBT people*

yeah trump is totally pro-gay LOL


Are transgenders gay?

what?

I'm confused
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Doom_Art
07/26/17 11:24:18 PM
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Milkman5 posted...
Are transgenders gay?

what?

I'm confused

being pedantic is no excuse for an actual argument. my meaning is quite clear.
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Milkman5
07/26/17 11:25:36 PM
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You can be pro-gay and anti-Transgender

Trans is related to gender, not sexuality

that makes no sense
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Doom_Art
07/26/17 11:26:37 PM
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Doom_Art posted...
being pedantic is no excuse for an actual argument. my meaning is quite clear.

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MysticMismagius
07/26/17 11:27:48 PM
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Samurontai posted...
gatorsPENSbucs posted...
Samurontai posted...
"See guys, I don't hate the LGBT community!"

It's literally just pandering. Like, who cares?
This shit makes me laugh. You have no idea what you're talking about, you're making something up and pretending that it's real. You don't have the slightest idea of what he's doing.

WaterLink posted...
Samurontai posted...
"See guys, I don't hate the LGBT community!"

It's literally just pandering. Like, who cares?
idk, i think it's kind of just confirmation bias on your part. many reasons to rip on trump, but when he actually does something good people like you still rip on him. like there's just no winning.
Much wow

Such shut the fuck up

It's pandering, end of
"Yuh-huh!"
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devilminion
07/26/17 11:33:48 PM
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Milkman5 posted...
You can be pro-gay and anti-Transgender

Trans is related to gender, not sexuality

that makes no sense


Took this long for this post to be made...
Why can't people fathom that Trump could be pro-LGB, but anti-T? It's not an all-in concept
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Samurontai
07/26/17 11:36:16 PM
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devilminion posted...
Milkman5 posted...
You can be pro-gay and anti-Transgender

Trans is related to gender, not sexuality

that makes no sense


Took this long for this post to be made...
Why can't people fathom that Trump could be pro-LGB, but anti-T? It's not an all-in concept


Because he picked someone who vehemently hates gays as his Vice President

And he's pandering to people that hate gays

I'm sure there's other things of course
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3rd_Best_Master
07/26/17 11:36:51 PM
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devilminion posted...
Milkman5 posted...
You can be pro-gay and anti-Transgender

Trans is related to gender, not sexuality

that makes no sense


Took this long for this post to be made...
Why can't people fathom that Trump could be pro-LGB, but anti-T? It's not an all-in concept

Because he campaigned on the opposite.
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Freddie_Mercury
07/26/17 11:38:55 PM
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is he actually qualified for the job or is tramp just trying to troll merkel
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ollie89
07/26/17 11:40:21 PM
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Freddie_Mercury posted...
is he actually qualified for the job or is tramp just trying to troll merkel

He's more than qualified.
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WaterLink
07/26/17 11:51:02 PM
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Samurontai posted...
Much wow

Such shut the fuck up

It's pandering, end of

Maybe he just picked the best person for the job? That thought ever crossed your head? Probably not, because your mind has been made up long ago. Hence confirmation bias. He does something bad, it's "See? Told you he sucks!" Then he does something good "He doesn't really feel that way! It's pandering!"

No matter what he does your mind is made up and you will find a way to attack him no matter what. Which is why he doesn't try to appease someone like you because it's pointless to try.
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LittleRoyal
07/26/17 11:53:02 PM
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Foreigners hate gays they'll think we are weak!


Nah it's fine who cares lol what is this guys koala-fications?
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LittleRoyal
07/26/17 11:53:10 PM
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Get it?
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BLAKUboy
07/27/17 8:36:29 AM
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devilminion posted...
Why can't people fathom that Trump could be pro-LGB, but anti-T? It's not an all-in concept

BLAKUboy posted...
his DoJ arguing anti-discrimination laws don't extend to LGBT.

Doom_Art posted...
*His DoJ argues that anti-discrimination laws don't apply to LGBT people*

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pegusus123456
07/27/17 8:39:43 AM
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All ya'll think he's pandering.

I think Trump just did not research the guy and had no idea he was gay. He just knows that the dude's
a frequent commentator on Fox News and a vocal critic of the news media on Twitter

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Ammonitida
07/27/17 8:41:42 AM
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BLAKUboy posted...
gatorsPENSbucs posted...
This shit makes me laugh. You have no idea what you're talking about, you're making something up and pretending that it's real. You don't have the slightest idea of what he's doing.

This story comes the same day as him banning transgenders from serving in the military and his DoJ arguing anti-discrimination laws don't extend to LGBT. We know exactly what he is doing.


Uh, the DOJ under Obama conceded the point about anti-discrimination laws not extending to gays.
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TheBiggerWiggle
07/27/17 8:44:27 AM
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WaterLink posted...
Samurontai posted...
"See guys, I don't hate the LGBT community!"

It's literally just pandering. Like, who cares?

idk, i think it's kind of just confirmation bias on your part. many reasons to rip on trump, but when he actually does something good people like you still rip on him. like there's just no winning.


If this announcement didn't come the same day as the transgender ban you would maybe have a point, but it didn't and this is blatant pandering.
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ollie89
07/27/17 9:54:33 AM
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Bump
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l Dudeboy l
07/27/17 9:59:36 AM
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I don't support Trump whatsoever, but some people itt are impossible to please.
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Shopaholic163
07/27/17 10:02:50 AM
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Damage control
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