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ollie89 07/26/17 10:29:42 PM #1: |
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/20/us/politics/grenell-germany-ambassador-bolton.html
Discuss. --- Woo! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Samurontai 07/26/17 10:30:27 PM #2: |
"See guys, I don't hate the LGBT community!"
It's literally just pandering. Like, who cares? --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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mattnd2007 07/26/17 10:34:43 PM #3: |
Samurontai posted...
"See guys, I don't hate the LGBT community!" unfortunately this. i used to have hope for the trump administration. cautious optimism. they have taken that and shit on everything. they haven't done anything i actually thought was a good idea yet. and no i didn't vote for hilary. i voted for johnson. --- go join the "expletive not allowed" nazis then. you "expletive not allowed" psycho- Spudger 01/15/17 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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gatorsPENSbucs 07/26/17 10:38:17 PM #5: |
Samurontai posted...
"See guys, I don't hate the LGBT community!" This shit makes me laugh. You have no idea what you're talking about, you're making something up and pretending that it's real. You don't have the slightest idea of what he's doing. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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WaterLink 07/26/17 10:40:40 PM #6: |
Samurontai posted...
"See guys, I don't hate the LGBT community!" idk, i think it's kind of just confirmation bias on your part. many reasons to rip on trump, but when he actually does something good people like you still rip on him. like there's just no winning. --- No one sings like you anymore ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DifferentialEquation 07/26/17 10:41:16 PM #7: |
Samurontai posted...
"See guys, I don't hate the LGBT community!" It's not pandering. Trump is trying to do what's right for the country, not trying to please particular groups of people. Sometimes this will be something that upsets the LGBT community, like his transgender military ban. Sometimes this will be something that the LGBT community approves of, like appointing this man as an ambassador. The left is just confused. After being led by people like Obama and Hillary who pander to "marginalized groups" to get votes, they're unaccustomed to someone like Trump who leads with objectivity and integrity. --- "If the day does not require an AK, it is good." The Great Warrior Poet, Ice Cube ... Copied to Clipboard!
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BLAKUboy 07/26/17 10:41:44 PM #8: |
gatorsPENSbucs posted...
This shit makes me laugh. You have no idea what you're talking about, you're making something up and pretending that it's real. You don't have the slightest idea of what he's doing. This story comes the same day as him banning transgenders from serving in the military and his DoJ arguing anti-discrimination laws don't extend to LGBT. We know exactly what he is doing. --- Aeris dies if she takes more damage than her current HP - Panthera http://signavatar.com/26999_s.png ... Copied to Clipboard!
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metralo 07/26/17 10:42:21 PM #9: |
gatorsPENSbucs posted...
You don't have the slightest idea of what he's doing. neither does he. in the slightest. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ClockworkHare 07/26/17 10:42:27 PM #10: |
At least Trump's not sending him to Russia...
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thompsontalker7 07/26/17 10:43:19 PM #11: |
Samurontai posted...
"See guys, I don't hate the LGBT community!" Was gonna expect this if he had done it from the get go There's a narrative in all of this and the other side will take it as far as they can. --- You haven't set a signature for the message boards yet. Might wanna get on that, yeah? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Doom_Art 07/26/17 10:44:10 PM #12: |
*Bans transgender people from the military*
*His DoJ argues that anti-discrimination laws don't apply to LGBT people* yeah trump is totally pro-gay LOL --- Not removing this until Mega Man 64 is released on the Wii Virtual Console. Started on: 12/1/2009 http://i.imgur.com/mPvcy.png ... Copied to Clipboard!
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mattnd2007 07/26/17 10:44:35 PM #13: |
thompsontalker7 posted...
Samurontai posted..."See guys, I don't hate the LGBT community!" well the timing is kind of questionable. --- go join the "expletive not allowed" nazis then. you "expletive not allowed" psycho- Spudger 01/15/17 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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gatorsPENSbucs 07/26/17 10:45:16 PM #14: |
BLAKUboy posted...
gatorsPENSbucs posted...This shit makes me laugh. You have no idea what you're talking about, you're making something up and pretending that it's real. You don't have the slightest idea of what he's doing. No you don't. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MysticMismagius 07/26/17 10:46:00 PM #15: |
gatorsPENSbucs posted...
BLAKUboy posted..."Nuh-uh!"gatorsPENSbucs posted...No you don't.This shit makes me laugh. You have no idea what you're talking about, you're making something up and pretending that it's real. You don't have the slightest idea of what he's doing.This story comes the same day as him banning transgenders from serving in the military and his DoJ arguing anti-discrimination laws don't extend to LGBT. We know exactly what he is doing. --- I'm not very good at this... ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Doom_Art 07/26/17 10:46:01 PM #16: |
thompsontalker7 posted...
Was gonna expect this if he had done it from the get go i'm not sure what you're saying here are we supposed to ignore literally everything else he and his admin have done with regards to LGBT folks? --- Not removing this until Mega Man 64 is released on the Wii Virtual Console. Started on: 12/1/2009 http://i.imgur.com/mPvcy.png ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Blue_Inigo 07/26/17 10:46:18 PM #17: |
BLAKUboy posted...
gatorsPENSbucs posted...This shit makes me laugh. You have no idea what you're talking about, you're making something up and pretending that it's real. You don't have the slightest idea of what he's doing. --- "This is your last dance." ... Copied to Clipboard!
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thompsontalker7 07/26/17 10:47:00 PM #18: |
Doom_Art posted...
thompsontalker7 posted...Was gonna expect this if he had done it from the get go I'm saying this could've happened from day one and people would've still gone "pfft. this changes nothing." Therefore outrage over this apparent hypocrisy feels empty --- You haven't set a signature for the message boards yet. Might wanna get on that, yeah? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Doom_Art 07/26/17 10:48:19 PM #19: |
thompsontalker7 posted...
I'm saying this could've happened from day one and people would've still gone "pfft. this changes nothing." i mean it really doesn't, lol --- Not removing this until Mega Man 64 is released on the Wii Virtual Console. Started on: 12/1/2009 http://i.imgur.com/mPvcy.png ... Copied to Clipboard!
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gatorsPENSbucs 07/26/17 10:49:47 PM #20: |
Doom_Art posted...
are we supposed to ignore literally everything else he and his admin have done with regards to LGBT folks? So it's pretty much just fuck Trump no matter what? He said a couple things you didn't like so you'll never even consider liking him? And that's why this country is fucked. Too many people stuck on one way and not willing to change, at all, and that's been fucking up this country more and more. And what all have they done besides this military thing? --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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thompsontalker7 07/26/17 10:51:01 PM #21: |
Doom_Art posted...
thompsontalker7 posted...I'm saying this could've happened from day one and people would've still gone "pfft. this changes nothing." Hence my thoughts that there's a narrative at play that will make everything seem like pandering. If everything seems like pandering then there's reason to maintain contempt. If there's contempt then there's no reason to look at the situation favorably. If there's no reason for a favorable outcome then there's more reason to bitch. I hate bitching. It gets very little done. --- You haven't set a signature for the message boards yet. Might wanna get on that, yeah? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Antifar 07/26/17 10:52:32 PM #22: |
Appointing an ambassador is fine. It's good! But policy has a much larger, wider impact, and should be weighed more heavily in considerations of whether the Trump administration is supporting LGBT people.
Likewise, if Hillary were president, the symbolism of a woman president would be historic and noteworthy, but have less material impact on women's lives than her family leave policy. --- kin to all that throbs ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MysticMismagius 07/26/17 10:53:10 PM #23: |
Antifar posted...
Appointing an ambassador is fine. But policy has a much larger, wider impact, and should be weighed more heavily in considerations of whether the Trump administration is supporting LGBT people. --- I'm not very good at this... ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Doom_Art 07/26/17 10:57:23 PM #24: |
gatorsPENSbucs posted...
So it's pretty much just fuck Trump no matter what? He said a couple things you didn't like so you'll never even consider liking him? I mean he's done several very large things that I very heavily disagree with. Not to mention his rhetoric is something I find repulsive. I'd consider liking him but he'd have to do pretty much a complete 180 as a person and politician. gatorsPENSbucs posted... Too many people stuck on one way and not willing to change, at all why on earth should i bend and compromise my own personal values for this president? thompsontalker7 posted... Hence my thoughts that there's a narrative at play that will make everything seem like pandering. i mean if by narrative you mean trump's own words and actions, then yes there is a narrative at play here that makes everything else seem like pandering. thompsontalker7 posted... If there's contempt then there's no reason to look at the situation favorably. i also dislike trying to look back on everything positively for the sake of being muted and inoffensive. it gets very little done. --- Not removing this until Mega Man 64 is released on the Wii Virtual Console. Started on: 12/1/2009 http://i.imgur.com/mPvcy.png ... Copied to Clipboard!
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thompsontalker7 07/26/17 11:02:54 PM #25: |
Doom_Art posted...
The narrative is that people will continue to hold Trump in contempt regardless of anything that happens positive or negative. Anything positive will weaken this narrative and therefore must be scoffed off in fear of losing focus. That isn't me going "hurr durr give him a chance", rather that the decision has been made a long time ago by everyone and it is not going to change. Doom_Art posted...
I'd imagine so. Regardless it was merely a hypothetical to point out that this entire thing was set in stone a long time ago and it kinda makes me appalled at how stubborn everyone is becoming. --- You haven't set a signature for the message boards yet. Might wanna get on that, yeah? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Lightsasori 07/26/17 11:06:14 PM #26: |
The timing is definitely suspicious, right after he does the transgender ban from the military.
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ollie89 07/26/17 11:13:01 PM #27: |
Lightsasori posted...
The timing is definitely suspicious, right after he does the transgender ban from the military. --- Woo! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Samurontai 07/26/17 11:14:39 PM #28: |
gatorsPENSbucs posted...
Samurontai posted..."See guys, I don't hate the LGBT community!" WaterLink posted... Samurontai posted..."See guys, I don't hate the LGBT community!" Much wow Such shut the fuck up It's pandering, end of --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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iamintents 07/26/17 11:17:52 PM #30: |
gatorsPENSbucs posted...
Samurontai posted..."See guys, I don't hate the LGBT community!" nor you --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Inferno Dive Dragoon 07/26/17 11:19:48 PM #31: |
ImAMarvel posted...
So obviously damage control. Took the words right out of my mouth. --- Les aristocrates a la lanterne! Les aristocrates on les pendra! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Milkman5 07/26/17 11:22:25 PM #32: |
Doom_Art posted...
*Bans transgender people from the military* Are transgenders gay? what? I'm confused ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Doom_Art 07/26/17 11:24:18 PM #33: |
Milkman5 posted...
Are transgenders gay? being pedantic is no excuse for an actual argument. my meaning is quite clear. --- Not removing this until Mega Man 64 is released on the Wii Virtual Console. Started on: 12/1/2009 http://i.imgur.com/mPvcy.png ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Milkman5 07/26/17 11:25:36 PM #34: |
You can be pro-gay and anti-Transgender
Trans is related to gender, not sexuality that makes no sense ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Doom_Art 07/26/17 11:26:37 PM #35: |
Doom_Art posted...
being pedantic is no excuse for an actual argument. my meaning is quite clear. --- Not removing this until Mega Man 64 is released on the Wii Virtual Console. Started on: 12/1/2009 http://i.imgur.com/mPvcy.png ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MysticMismagius 07/26/17 11:27:48 PM #36: |
Samurontai posted...
gatorsPENSbucs posted..."Yuh-huh!"Samurontai posted..."See guys, I don't hate the LGBT community!"This shit makes me laugh. You have no idea what you're talking about, you're making something up and pretending that it's real. You don't have the slightest idea of what he's doing. --- I'm not very good at this... ... Copied to Clipboard!
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devilminion 07/26/17 11:33:48 PM #37: |
Milkman5 posted...
You can be pro-gay and anti-Transgender Took this long for this post to be made... Why can't people fathom that Trump could be pro-LGB, but anti-T? It's not an all-in concept --- All Hail http://i.imgur.com/uzIx6Jp.gif ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Samurontai 07/26/17 11:36:16 PM #38: |
devilminion posted...
Milkman5 posted...You can be pro-gay and anti-Transgender Because he picked someone who vehemently hates gays as his Vice President And he's pandering to people that hate gays I'm sure there's other things of course --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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3rd_Best_Master 07/26/17 11:36:51 PM #39: |
devilminion posted...
Milkman5 posted...You can be pro-gay and anti-Transgender Because he campaigned on the opposite. --- You've fought the strongest, the second strongest, the fourth strongest, and the weakest master! Now you see the true advantage of being third strongest master! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Freddie_Mercury 07/26/17 11:38:55 PM #40: |
is he actually qualified for the job or is tramp just trying to troll merkel
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ollie89 07/26/17 11:40:21 PM #41: |
Freddie_Mercury posted...
is he actually qualified for the job or is tramp just trying to troll merkel He's more than qualified. --- Woo! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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WaterLink 07/26/17 11:51:02 PM #42: |
Samurontai posted...
Much wow Maybe he just picked the best person for the job? That thought ever crossed your head? Probably not, because your mind has been made up long ago. Hence confirmation bias. He does something bad, it's "See? Told you he sucks!" Then he does something good "He doesn't really feel that way! It's pandering!" No matter what he does your mind is made up and you will find a way to attack him no matter what. Which is why he doesn't try to appease someone like you because it's pointless to try. --- No one sings like you anymore ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LittleRoyal 07/26/17 11:53:02 PM #43: |
Foreigners hate gays they'll think we are weak!
Nah it's fine who cares lol what is this guys koala-fications? --- I-I really needed this~~ Time to stomp some faces!!! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LittleRoyal 07/26/17 11:53:10 PM #44: |
Get it?
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BLAKUboy 07/27/17 8:36:29 AM #45: |
devilminion posted...
Why can't people fathom that Trump could be pro-LGB, but anti-T? It's not an all-in concept BLAKUboy posted... his DoJ arguing anti-discrimination laws don't extend to LGBT. Doom_Art posted... *His DoJ argues that anti-discrimination laws don't apply to LGBT people* --- Aeris dies if she takes more damage than her current HP - Panthera http://signavatar.com/26999_s.png ... Copied to Clipboard!
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pegusus123456 07/27/17 8:39:43 AM #46: |
All ya'll think he's pandering.
I think Trump just did not research the guy and had no idea he was gay. He just knows that the dude's a frequent commentator on Fox News and a vocal critic of the news media on Twitter --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Ammonitida 07/27/17 8:41:42 AM #47: |
BLAKUboy posted...
gatorsPENSbucs posted...This shit makes me laugh. You have no idea what you're talking about, you're making something up and pretending that it's real. You don't have the slightest idea of what he's doing. Uh, the DOJ under Obama conceded the point about anti-discrimination laws not extending to gays. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TheBiggerWiggle 07/27/17 8:44:27 AM #48: |
WaterLink posted...
Samurontai posted..."See guys, I don't hate the LGBT community!" If this announcement didn't come the same day as the transgender ban you would maybe have a point, but it didn't and this is blatant pandering. --- I have trouble concentrating because I have 80HD. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ollie89 07/27/17 9:54:33 AM #49: |
Bump
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l Dudeboy l 07/27/17 9:59:36 AM #50: |
I don't support Trump whatsoever, but some people itt are impossible to please.
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Shopaholic163 07/27/17 10:02:50 AM #51: |
Damage control
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