Poll of the Day > Army prepares women to shower with men as part of transgender training.

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https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/army-prepares-women-to-shower-with-men-as-part-of-transgender-training

July 12, 2017 (LifeSiteNews) — The U.S. Army is telling women soldiers that they need to accept gender-confused, biological men in their showers, bathrooms, and barracks as part of a controversial policy to build “dignity and respect” for “transgender Soldiers.”

The guidance is part of the Pentagon’s new “transgender inclusion” agenda launched by Obama and gaining ground in the Armed Services. Social conservatives are mounting a counteroffensive to ditch the “trans” program altogether.

President Trump and the Pentagon have sent mixed signals on LGBT issues, with the DoD honoring gay-lesbian-bisexual-transgender “pride” month in June even as Trump himself broke with Obama by not issue a homosexual “pride proclamation.”

In “Vignette 4” of an Army’s PowerPoint guidance, titled, “Policy on the Military Service of Transgender Soldiers Training Module, Tier 3: Units and Soldiers,” issued last September, it states the following regarding a hypothetical “transgender Soldier” who is “transitioning” to a new “gender”:

“Following her transition from male to female (which did not include sex reassignment surgery) and gender marker change in DEERS [the Army’s personnel system – Defense Enrollment Eligibility Reporting System], a transgender Soldier begins using female barracks, bathroom, and shower facilities. Because she did not undergo a surgical change, the Soldier still has male genitalia.”
The pro-transgender lesson then offers the following two points among six “Considerations and Responsibilities” required of Army personnel in such cases:

1-Understand that you may encounter individuals in barracks, bathrooms, or shower facilities with physical characteristics of the opposite sex despite having the same gender marker in DEERS.

2-All Soldiers should be respectful of the privacy and modesty concerns of others. However, transgender Soldiers are not required or expected to modify or adjust their behavior based on the fact that they do not “match” other Soldiers.
The Army's "transgender"-affirming documents are startling in the degree to which they: 1) cater to a tiny percentage of “gender-non-conforming” Americans (in 2011, the pro-LGBT Williams Institute estimated that just 0.3 percent of the population, or 700,000 adults, was “transgender”); and 2) risk alienating the privacy and conscience rights of a much larger pool of Army soldiers in the name of providing "dignity and respect" to the severely gender-confused.

The new guidance is fueling calls by conservatives for the Armed Forces to ditch President Obama’s “transgender-inclusive” policy in the military, announced late in his term by then-Defense Secretary Ash Carter. The pro-“transgender” policy, which was never voted on or fully debated in Congress, had been slated to go into full effect July 1, allowing open recruitment of gender-bending people.

Late last month, the Associated Press reported that Defense Secretary James Mattis agreed to postpone full implementation of the Obama “transgender” policy for six month. Mattis reportedly rejected a request by the Army and Navy (which oversees the Marines) to delay it two years.

"After consulting with the service chiefs and secretaries, I have determined that it is necessary to defer the start of accessions for six months," Mattis said in a June 30 memo sent to service chiefs and secretaries. "We will use this additional time to evaluate more carefully the impact of such accessions on readiness and lethality."

“According to officials familiar with the internal discussions, the [military] chiefs believe the extra six months would give the four military services time to gauge if currently serving transgender troops are facing problems and what necessary changes military bases might have to make.

“They said Navy officials were ready to begin enlistment in July but asked for a one-year delay, largely to accommodate a request from the Marine Corps for more time. The Navy secretary also oversees the Marine Corps. The Army and Air Force wanted a two-year delay to further study the issue, they said.

“Already, there are as many as 250 service members who are in the process of transitioning to their preferred genders or who have been approved to formally change gender within the Pentagon's personnel system, according to several defense officials.“

I'm sure this will go smoothly. No hiccups with pervs or sexist individuals looking for a quick feel.

And yeah, there's a lot more in the article. I just didn't post it all here to avoid spam-posting.

Fuck yeah!

Well, sometimes you have to endure nonsense to get ready for nonsense.

And now you can close this topic and blame me for having the last word.
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I'm not in the military, so obviously I'm not an expert on what goes on on the front lines, but do gender segregated bathrooms even make sense anymore now that women can fight on the front lines? Aren't there plenty of combat situations where you have to shit and piss basically right next to the people you're fighting with because you can't wander off to find the nearest men's/women's room without abandoning your post or getting shot?

everyone showered together in starship troopers and it was cool

LaggnFragnLarry posted...

everyone showered together in starship troopers and it was cool

It would've been cooler if Denise Richards was there

that is my biggest complaint for that movie. thank god for wild things

LaggnFragnLarry posted...

that is my biggest complaint for that movie. thank god for wild things

Indeed

thecolorgreen posted...


tbh, mtf is basically trading down as far as soldiers are concerned. If anything, everybody in the military should be on estrogen blockers to promote muscle growth.
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Starship Troopers
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ahahahaha this is great, just fantastic
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That looks like a good scholarly article
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oooooh that's the good shit

if you're gonna be duckbear at least check your sources
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Kana posted...

oooooh that's the good shit

idk, maybe he was compensating for citing WaPo in the past. Balance, you know?

Granted, you shouldn't have needed to look in an "about us" section of some kind when the URL virtue-signals.

Kana posted...

if you're gonna be duckbear at least check your sources

Actually, the hallmark of a Duckbear story is that he uses a sketchy source THEN proceeds to get additional facts wrong.
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This has bad idea written all over it

EightySeven posted...

I'm not in the military, so obviously I'm not an expert on what goes on on the front lines, but do gender segregated bathrooms even make sense anymore now that women can fight on the front lines? Aren't there plenty of combat situations where you have to shit and piss basically right next to the people you're fighting with because you can't wander off to find the nearest men's/women's room without abandoning your post or getting shot?

Pretty much. Their lives are going to be in immediate danger; the discomfort of seeing a wang or pair of boobs in the shower shouldn't really be a factor compared to that priority.
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Chill out Kana. I'm not trying to be Duckbear.

And shut up Zeus.