Current Events > If you knew your child would be born transgender, but there was a pre-natal cure

Topic List	Page List: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7
gunplagirl 07/18/17 10:19:34 AM #202:	Darkman124 posted... gunplagirl posted... Would you also make it so they aren't gay? Piping up: I would not, since the existing stigma against homosexuals is clearly reducing over time (not sure same is true of transgendered people) and surgery or chemical body alteration is necessary to allow a homosexual to live a normal life that is true to their own sense of self. And if they want kids, there's always adoption. I don't think desire for kids correlates much with gender sexual preference. I'm guessing you meant to say that surgery ISN'T necessary? And correct, most humans in general want kids regardless of sexual orientation. The hypocrisy on the premise of societal stigma is astonishing though, as acceptance was rising until about two years ago when bathroom bills were orchestrated by (primarily) religiously motivated groups in spite of ordinances that cities and states had already implemented. --- Pokemon Moon FC: 1994-2190-5020 IGN: Vanessa <cite>gunplagirl posted [p:883135507] in If you kne... [t:75577103]...</cite> <quote><cite>Darkman124 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>gunplagirl posted...</cite> <quote> Would you also make it so they aren't gay?</quote> Piping up: I would not, since the existing stigma against homosexuals is clearly reducing over time (not sure same is true of transgendered people) and surgery or chemical body alteration is necessary to allow a homosexual to live a normal life that is true to their own sense of self. And if they want kids, there's always adoption. I don't think desire for kids correlates much with gender sexual preference.</quote> I'm guessing you meant to say that surgery ISN'T necessary? And correct, most humans in general want kids regardless of sexual orientation. The hypocrisy on the premise of societal stigma is astonishing though, as acceptance was rising until about two years ago when bathroom bills were orchestrated by (primarily) religiously motivated groups in spite of ordinances that cities and states had already implemented.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Xelltrix 07/18/17 10:21:55 AM #203:	Turbam posted... No, I would let them be them. Then you meant yes. --- Reading this post may induce one or more of the following: Nausea / Butt-Hurt / Lulz / UM? Syndrome / Angst / Diarrhea <cite>Xelltrix posted [p:883135604] in If you kne... [t:75577103]...</cite> <quote><cite>Turbam posted...</cite> <quote>No, I would let them be them.</quote> Then you meant yes.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
voldothegr8 07/18/17 10:22:04 AM #204:	Turbam posted... No, I would let them be them. What if it was a developmental disability? Would you let that ride too? --- Oda break tracker 2017- 5 (2) Super Mario Maker Profile: 1237-0000-0073-02FE <cite>voldothegr8 posted [p:883135609] in If you kne... [t:75577103]...</cite> <quote><cite>Turbam posted...</cite> <quote>No, I would let them be them.</quote> What if it was a developmental disability? Would you let that ride too?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FightingGames 07/18/17 10:23:01 AM #205:	Yes. How is this even a question? --- https://my.mixtape.moe/hhlayb.jpg <cite>FightingGames posted [p:883135658] in If you kne... [t:75577103]...</cite> <quote>Yes. How is this even a question?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Turbam 07/18/17 10:23:22 AM #206:	Xelltrix posted... Turbam posted... No, I would let them be them. Then you meant yes. Nah man, you aren't gonna trick me into having pages and pages of argument with you :V voldothegr8 posted... Turbam posted... No, I would let them be them. What if it was a developmental disability? Would you let that ride too? Those are two completely different things. --- ~snip (V)_(; ;)_(V) snip~ I'm just one man! Whoa! Well, I'm a one man band! http://i.imgur.com/p9Xvjvs.gif <cite>Turbam posted [p:883135672] in If you kne... [t:75577103]...</cite> <quote><cite>Xelltrix posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Turbam posted...</cite> <quote> No, I would let them be them.</quote> Then you meant yes.</quote> Nah man, you aren't gonna trick me into having pages and pages of argument with you :V <cite>voldothegr8 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Turbam posted...</cite> <quote> No, I would let them be them.</quote> What if it was a developmental disability? Would you let that ride too?</quote> Those are two completely different things.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gunplagirl 07/18/17 10:23:47 AM #207:	Xelltrix posted... Turbam posted... No, I would let them be them. Then you meant yes. You can't change them and have them be them --- Pokemon Moon FC: 1994-2190-5020 IGN: Vanessa <cite>gunplagirl posted [p:883135689] in If you kne... [t:75577103]...</cite> <quote><cite>Xelltrix posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Turbam posted...</cite> <quote>No, I would let them be them.</quote> Then you meant yes.</quote> You can't change them and have them be them</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Blackstar110 07/18/17 10:24:03 AM #208:	This is like asking if I'd let my baby knowingly be born with a terrible birth defect if I had the choice to spare them from it. I'm not saying transgendered people are monstrosities, I'm asking why on earth I would wish gender dysmorphia on my child. Like, if I was told I was gonna have a son, but it turns out he'll be transgender and identify as a woman, and I'm given the opportunity to switch the baby to female, I'm doing it. --- -Shred <cite>Blackstar110 posted [p:883135706] in If you kne... [t:75577103]...</cite> <quote>This is like asking if I'd let my baby knowingly be born with a terrible birth defect if I had the choice to spare them from it. I'm not saying transgendered people are monstrosities, I'm asking why on earth I would wish gender dysmorphia on my child. Like, if I was told I was gonna have a son, but it turns out he'll be transgender and identify as a woman, and I'm given the opportunity to switch the baby to female, I'm doing it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Xelltrix 07/18/17 10:25:22 AM #209:	They aren't. Unless you think Alzheimer or any other mental disease is a natural state and shouldn't be treated. --- Reading this post may induce one or more of the following: Nausea / Butt-Hurt / Lulz / UM? Syndrome / Angst / Diarrhea <cite>Xelltrix posted [p:883135765] in If you kne... [t:75577103]...</cite> <quote>They aren't. Unless you think Alzheimer or any other mental disease is a natural state and shouldn't be treated.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dustin1280 07/18/17 10:25:49 AM #210:	Blackstar110 posted... This is like asking if I'd let my baby knowingly be born with a terrible birth defect if I had the choice to spare them from it. I'm not saying transgendered people are monstrosities, I'm asking why on earth I would wish gender dysmorphia on my child. Like, if I was told I was gonna have a son, but it turns out he'll be transgender and identify as a woman, and I'm given the opportunity to switch the baby to female, I'm doing it. this so much --- Smash DS Code: 4554-0120-5368 SB4 Name: Roz RIP: Orlando of the Axe Karma: 1642 --he delivered! <cite>Dustin1280 posted [p:883135786] in If you kne... [t:75577103]...</cite> <quote><cite>Blackstar110 posted...</cite> <quote>This is like asking if I'd let my baby knowingly be born with a terrible birth defect if I had the choice to spare them from it. I'm not saying transgendered people are monstrosities, I'm asking why on earth I would wish gender dysmorphia on my child. Like, if I was told I was gonna have a son, but it turns out he'll be transgender and identify as a woman, and I'm given the opportunity to switch the baby to female, I'm doing it.</quote> this so much</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
YourDrunkFather 07/18/17 10:26:04 AM #211:	Why would you not want your son or daughter to be born into the correct body? This is a no brainer --- One bourbon,one scotch,one beer <cite>YourDrunkFather posted [p:883135794] in If you kne... [t:75577103]...</cite> <quote>Why would you not want your son or daughter to be born into the correct body? This is a no brainer</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dustin1280 07/18/17 10:26:25 AM #212:	YourDrunkFather posted... Why would you not want your son or daughter to be born into the correct body? This is a no brainer Well for everyone but crazy people So far there are 22 people that are either genuinely crazy or didn't understand the question/situation proposed. --- Smash DS Code: 4554-0120-5368 SB4 Name: Roz RIP: Orlando of the Axe Karma: 1642 --he delivered! <cite>Dustin1280 posted [p:883135814] in If you kne... [t:75577103]...</cite> <quote><cite>YourDrunkFather posted...</cite> <quote>Why would you not want your son or daughter to be born into the correct body? This is a no brainer</quote> Well for everyone but crazy people So far there are 22 people that are either genuinely crazy or didn't understand the question/situation proposed.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dragonblade01 07/18/17 10:26:43 AM #213:	If they were genetically modified to change something before birth, they will still be themselves. --- PSN: kazukifafner <cite>Dragonblade01 posted [p:883135830] in If you kne... [t:75577103]...</cite> <quote>If they were genetically modified to change something before birth, they will still be themselves.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Feline_Heart 07/18/17 10:26:57 AM #214:	gunplagirl posted... Xelltrix posted... Turbam posted... No, I would let them be them. Then you meant yes. You can't change them and have them be them If they don't exist yet then they don't have a sense of what they are yet --- Stay woke. <cite>Feline_Heart posted [p:883135840] in If you kne... [t:75577103]...</cite> <quote><cite>gunplagirl posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Xelltrix posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Turbam posted...</cite> <quote>No, I would let them be them.</quote> Then you meant yes.</quote> You can't change them and have them be them</quote> If they don't exist yet then they don't have a sense of what they are yet</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Turbam 07/18/17 10:27:18 AM #215:	Blackstar110 posted... Like, if I was told I was gonna have a son, but it turns out he'll be transgender and identify as a woman, and I'm given the opportunity to switch the baby to female, I'm doing it. Oh wait, wait. I misread. If this is the case then yes I'd do it. --- ~snip (V)_(; ;)_(V) snip~ I'm just one man! Whoa! Well, I'm a one man band! http://i.imgur.com/p9Xvjvs.gif <cite>Turbam posted [p:883135859] in If you kne... [t:75577103]...</cite> <quote><cite>Blackstar110 posted...</cite> <quote>Like, if I was told I was gonna have a son, but it turns out he'll be transgender and identify as a woman, and I'm given the opportunity to switch the baby to female, I'm doing it.</quote> Oh wait, wait. I misread. If this is the case then yes I'd do it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GothamsSavior 07/18/17 10:27:51 AM #216:	Turbam posted... No, I would let them be them. --- http://imgur.com/a/FlaRU http://imgur.com/a/Q0qad <cite>GothamsSavior posted [p:883135878] in If you kne... [t:75577103]...</cite> <quote><cite>Turbam posted...</cite> <quote>No, I would let them be them.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Xelltrix 07/18/17 10:28:24 AM #217:	Feline_Heart posted... gunplagirl posted... Xelltrix posted... Turbam posted... No, I would let them be them. Then you meant yes. You can't change them and have them be them If they don't exist yet then they don't have a sense of what they are yet There's some very strange disconnect if you can think aborting a fetus isn't a problem but curing a mental illness before they have any sense of self is... --- Reading this post may induce one or more of the following: Nausea / Butt-Hurt / Lulz / UM? Syndrome / Angst / Diarrhea <cite>Xelltrix posted [p:883135901] in If you kne... [t:75577103]...</cite> <quote><cite>Feline_Heart posted...</cite> <quote><cite>gunplagirl posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Xelltrix posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Turbam posted...</cite> <quote>No, I would let them be them.</quote> Then you meant yes.</quote> You can't change them and have them be them</quote> If they don't exist yet then they don't have a sense of what they are yet</quote> There's some very strange disconnect if you can think aborting a fetus isn't a problem but curing a mental illness before they have any sense of self is...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
apolloooo 07/18/17 10:28:48 AM #218:	GOATSLAYER posted... I'd give them the cure so that they'd have an easier life --- http://i.imgtc.com/iJyp6bF.png http://i.imgtc.com/ZBw36Qh.png Thanks for the peeps that made the pics <3 if i make typos it means i am on phone <cite>apolloooo posted [p:883135916] in If you kne... [t:75577103]...</cite> <quote><cite>GOATSLAYER posted...</cite> <quote>I'd give them the cure so that they'd have an easier life</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Feline_Heart 07/18/17 10:29:07 AM #219:	Xelltrix posted... Feline_Heart posted... gunplagirl posted... Xelltrix posted... Turbam posted... No, I would let them be them. Then you meant yes. You can't change them and have them be them If they don't exist yet then they don't have a sense of what they are yet There's some very strange disconnect if you can think aborting a fetus isn't a problem but curing a mental illness before they have any sense of self is... I'm saying that you should cure them --- Stay woke. <cite>Feline_Heart posted [p:883135931] in If you kne... [t:75577103]...</cite> <quote><cite>Xelltrix posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Feline_Heart posted...</cite> <quote><cite>gunplagirl posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Xelltrix posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Turbam posted...</cite> <quote>No, I would let them be them.</quote> Then you meant yes.</quote> You can't change them and have them be them</quote> If they don't exist yet then they don't have a sense of what they are yet</quote> There's some very strange disconnect if you can think aborting a fetus isn't a problem but curing a mental illness before they have any sense of self is...</quote> I'm saying that you should cure them</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
IfGodCouldDie 07/18/17 10:30:37 AM #220:	IfGodCouldDie posted... hockeybub89 posted... Monday posted... I can't imagine any trans people who'd be against this. Transgenderism is a mental illness. You're talking about being able to cure it right out of the gate. It's lunacy to be against such an idea. Gender dysphoria is a mental illness. Being trans is not. What's the difference between the two? --- Mind post. XBL:Cyanide Sucker PSN:Paters1 IGN:SuperPattyCakes <cite>IfGodCouldDie posted [p:883135998] in If you kne... [t:75577103]...</cite> <quote><cite>IfGodCouldDie posted...</cite> <quote><cite>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Monday posted...</cite> <quote>I can't imagine any trans people who'd be against this. Transgenderism is a mental illness. You're talking about being able to cure it right out of the gate. It's lunacy to be against such an idea.</quote> Gender dysphoria is a mental illness. Being trans is not.</quote> What's the difference between the two?</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
#221	Post #221 was unavailable or deleted.
VTBM 07/18/17 10:34:07 AM #222:	I'd rather my child be gay than straight up transgender. --- http://darkvisionsofterror.bandcamp.com/ http://i.imgur.com/e7sCCSb.png http://i.imgtc.com/AlmbdTG49T.jpg <cite>VTBM posted [p:883136136] in If you kne... [t:75577103]...</cite> <quote>I'd rather my child be gay than straight up transgender.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darkman124 07/18/17 10:34:28 AM #223:	gunplagirl posted... I'm guessing you meant to say that surgery ISN'T necessary? yeah, that's correct. i missed a 'not' there. --- And when the hourglass has run out, eternity asks you about only one thing: whether you have lived in despair or not. <cite>Darkman124 posted [p:883136145] in If you kne... [t:75577103]...</cite> <quote><cite>gunplagirl posted...</cite> <quote> I'm guessing you meant to say that surgery ISN'T necessary? </quote> yeah, that's correct. i missed a 'not' there.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JohnLennon6 07/18/17 10:34:34 AM #224:	IfGodCouldDie posted... IfGodCouldDie posted... hockeybub89 posted... Monday posted... I can't imagine any trans people who'd be against this. Transgenderism is a mental illness. You're talking about being able to cure it right out of the gate. It's lunacy to be against such an idea. Gender dysphoria is a mental illness. Being trans is not. What's the difference between the two? @hockeybub89 --- He has good daygame - MasterOfMissions <cite>JohnLennon6 posted [p:883136152] in If you kne... [t:75577103]...</cite> <quote><cite>IfGodCouldDie posted...</cite> <quote><cite>IfGodCouldDie posted...</cite> <quote><cite>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Monday posted...</cite> <quote>I can't imagine any trans people who'd be against this. Transgenderism is a mental illness. You're talking about being able to cure it right out of the gate. It's lunacy to be against such an idea.</quote> Gender dysphoria is a mental illness. Being trans is not.</quote> What's the difference between the two?</quote></quote> @hockeybub89</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Xelltrix 07/18/17 10:34:52 AM #225:	Feline_Heart posted... Xelltrix posted... Feline_Heart posted... gunplagirl posted... Xelltrix posted... Turbam posted... No, I would let them be them. Then you meant yes. You can't change them and have them be them If they don't exist yet then they don't have a sense of what they are yet There's some very strange disconnect if you can think aborting a fetus isn't a problem but curing a mental illness before they have any sense of self is... I'm saying that you should cure them Yeah, I was agreeing with you. --- Reading this post may induce one or more of the following: Nausea / Butt-Hurt / Lulz / UM? Syndrome / Angst / Diarrhea <cite>Xelltrix posted [p:883136173] in If you kne... [t:75577103]...</cite> <quote><cite>Feline_Heart posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Xelltrix posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Feline_Heart posted...</cite> <quote><cite>gunplagirl posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Xelltrix posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Turbam posted...</cite> <quote>No, I would let them be them.</quote> Then you meant yes.</quote> You can't change them and have them be them</quote> If they don't exist yet then they don't have a sense of what they are yet</quote> There's some very strange disconnect if you can think aborting a fetus isn't a problem but curing a mental illness before they have any sense of self is...</quote> I'm saying that you should cure them</quote> Yeah, I was agreeing with you.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Feline_Heart 07/18/17 10:35:09 AM #226:	Xelltrix posted... Feline_Heart posted... Xelltrix posted... Feline_Heart posted... gunplagirl posted... Xelltrix posted... Turbam posted... No, I would let them be them. Then you meant yes. You can't change them and have them be them If they don't exist yet then they don't have a sense of what they are yet There's some very strange disconnect if you can think aborting a fetus isn't a problem but curing a mental illness before they have any sense of self is... I'm saying that you should cure them Yeah, I was agreeing with you. Cool lol --- Stay woke. <cite>Feline_Heart posted [p:883136189] in If you kne... [t:75577103]...</cite> <quote><cite>Xelltrix posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Feline_Heart posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Xelltrix posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Feline_Heart posted...</cite> <quote><cite>gunplagirl posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Xelltrix posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Turbam posted...</cite> <quote>No, I would let them be them.</quote> Then you meant yes.</quote> You can't change them and have them be them</quote> If they don't exist yet then they don't have a sense of what they are yet</quote> There's some very strange disconnect if you can think aborting a fetus isn't a problem but curing a mental illness before they have any sense of self is...</quote> I'm saying that you should cure them</quote> Yeah, I was agreeing with you.</quote> Cool lol</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
voldothegr8 07/18/17 10:36:27 AM #227:	voldothegr8 posted... Turbam posted... No, I would let them be them. What if it was a developmental disability? Would you let that ride too? Those are two completely different things. Same logic, "let them be them" --- Oda break tracker 2017- 5 (2) Super Mario Maker Profile: 1237-0000-0073-02FE <cite>voldothegr8 posted [p:883136244] in If you kne... [t:75577103]...</cite> <quote><quote><cite>voldothegr8 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Turbam posted...</cite> <quote> No, I would let them be them.</quote> What if it was a developmental disability? Would you let that ride too?</quote> Those are two completely different things.</quote> Same logic, "let them be them"</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
IfGodCouldDie 07/18/17 10:39:11 AM #228:	JohnLennon6 posted... IfGodCouldDie posted... IfGodCouldDie posted... hockeybub89 posted... Monday posted... I can't imagine any trans people who'd be against this. Transgenderism is a mental illness. You're talking about being able to cure it right out of the gate. It's lunacy to be against such an idea. Gender dysphoria is a mental illness. Being trans is not. What's the difference between the two? @hockeybub89 Lol thanks, didn't even think about doing that. --- Mind post. XBL:Cyanide Sucker PSN:Paters1 IGN:SuperPattyCakes <cite>IfGodCouldDie posted [p:883136376] in If you kne... [t:75577103]...</cite> <quote><cite>JohnLennon6 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>IfGodCouldDie posted...</cite> <quote><cite>IfGodCouldDie posted...</cite> <quote><cite>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Monday posted...</cite> <quote>I can't imagine any trans people who'd be against this. Transgenderism is a mental illness. You're talking about being able to cure it right out of the gate. It's lunacy to be against such an idea.</quote> Gender dysphoria is a mental illness. Being trans is not.</quote> What's the difference between the two?</quote></quote> @hockeybub89</quote> Lol thanks, didn't even think about doing that.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
thelovefist 07/18/17 10:59:07 AM #229:	gunplagirl's arguments consist of strawmen and whataboutisms. --- N/A <cite>thelovefist posted [p:883137397] in If you kne... [t:75577103]...</cite> <quote>gunplagirl's arguments consist of strawmen and whataboutisms.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sayoria 07/18/17 1:01:45 PM #230:	gunplagirl posted... Sayoria also thinks insulting trans girls who don't pass or can't afford lasers is fair game. I think trans woman should focus on transitioning rather than spending hundreds and thousands of dollars playing dressy up. --- i.imgur.com/OBxVnqJ.png ~ www.azaleasdolls.com/dressupgames/heroine-creator.php i.imgur.com/Pj3WBiE.jpg ~ www.dolldivine.com/sailor-moon-senshi-maker.php <cite>Sayoria posted [p:883143707] in If you kne... [t:75577103]...</cite> <quote><cite>gunplagirl posted...</cite> <quote>Sayoria also thinks insulting trans girls who don't pass or can't afford lasers is fair game.</quote> I think trans woman should focus on transitioning rather than spending hundreds and thousands of dollars playing dressy up.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mist_Turnips 07/18/17 6:11:07 PM #231:	Dustin1280 posted... gunplagirl posted... Dustin1280 posted... Why do people even respond to gunplagirl she is LITERALLY INSANE If you want a trans persons thoughts on this that isn't batshit talk to Sylph or Sayoria. As opposed to figuratively insane? Pray tell, what qualifications or evidence have you to verify this statement? Just about everything you post is evidence enough. You can't be reasoned with, you have a very singular view of what is right. You refuse to accept anything other then your own views and won't even give them the time of day, you cite "statistics" that don't actually exist when asked for proof you make some shit up about not needing proof, etc... You just responded to him --- "They say if you don't hide your belly button, lightning could take it away from you! What would happen if it did?" http://i.imgur.com/G74y2NJ.png <cite>Mist_Turnips posted [p:883161466] in If you kne... [t:75577103]...</cite> <quote><cite>Dustin1280 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>gunplagirl posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Dustin1280 posted...</cite> <quote>Why do people even respond to gunplagirl she is LITERALLY INSANE If you want a trans persons thoughts on this that isn't batshit talk to Sylph or Sayoria.</quote> As opposed to figuratively insane? Pray tell, what qualifications or evidence have you to verify this statement?</quote> Just about everything you post is evidence enough. You can't be reasoned with, you have a very singular view of what is right. You refuse to accept anything other then your own views and won't even give them the time of day, you cite "statistics" that don't actually exist when asked for proof you make some shit up about not needing proof, etc...</quote> You just responded to him</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Endofall 07/18/17 8:01:18 PM #232:	IfGodCouldDie posted... JohnLennon6 posted... IfGodCouldDie posted... IfGodCouldDie posted... hockeybub89 posted... Monday posted... I can't imagine any trans people who'd be against this. Transgenderism is a mental illness. You're talking about being able to cure it right out of the gate. It's lunacy to be against such an idea. Gender dysphoria is a mental illness. Being trans is not. What's the difference between the two? Lol thanks, didn't even think about doing that. Because once someone successfully transitions dysphoria is usually also gone. I would have to say yes to this topic though. As others have said already, transpeople don't want to be trans, a transgender woman wants to be a woman, not a woman in a male body. Why shouldn't I grant my child's wish before they're born? It would be heartless not to. <cite>Endofall posted [p:883167808] in If you kne... [t:75577103]...</cite> <quote><cite>IfGodCouldDie posted...</cite> <quote><cite>JohnLennon6 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>IfGodCouldDie posted...</cite> <quote><cite>IfGodCouldDie posted...</cite> <quote><cite>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Monday posted...</cite> <quote>I can't imagine any trans people who'd be against this. Transgenderism is a mental illness. You're talking about being able to cure it right out of the gate. It's lunacy to be against such an idea.</quote> Gender dysphoria is a mental illness. Being trans is not.</quote> What's the difference between the two?</quote></quote> </quote> Lol thanks, didn't even think about doing that.</quote> Because once someone successfully transitions dysphoria is usually also gone. I would have to say yes to this topic though. As others have said already, transpeople don't want to be trans, a transgender woman wants to be a woman, not a woman in a male body. Why shouldn't I grant my child's wish before they're born? It would be heartless not to.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
IfGodCouldDie 07/18/17 8:06:16 PM #233:	Endofall posted... IfGodCouldDie posted... JohnLennon6 posted... IfGodCouldDie posted... IfGodCouldDie posted... hockeybub89 posted... Monday posted... I can't imagine any trans people who'd be against this. Transgenderism is a mental illness. You're talking about being able to cure it right out of the gate. It's lunacy to be against such an idea. Gender dysphoria is a mental illness. Being trans is not. What's the difference between the two? Lol thanks, didn't even think about doing that. Because once someone successfully transitions dysphoria is usually also gone. I would have to say yes to this topic though. As others have said already, transpeople don't want to be trans, a transgender woman wants to be a woman, not a woman in a male body. Why shouldn't I grant my child's wish before they're born? It would be heartless not to. So transitioning is the cure to dysphoria? Would that not mean being trans and gender dysphoria are the same thing? --- Mind post. XBL:Cyanide Sucker PSN:Paters1 IGN:SuperPattyCakes <cite>IfGodCouldDie posted [p:883168128] in If you kne... [t:75577103]...</cite> <quote><cite>Endofall posted...</cite> <quote><cite>IfGodCouldDie posted...</cite> <quote><cite>JohnLennon6 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>IfGodCouldDie posted...</cite> <quote><cite>IfGodCouldDie posted...</cite> <quote><cite>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Monday posted...</cite> <quote>I can't imagine any trans people who'd be against this. Transgenderism is a mental illness. You're talking about being able to cure it right out of the gate. It's lunacy to be against such an idea.</quote> Gender dysphoria is a mental illness. Being trans is not.</quote> What's the difference between the two?</quote></quote> </quote> Lol thanks, didn't even think about doing that.</quote> Because once someone successfully transitions dysphoria is usually also gone. I would have to say yes to this topic though. As others have said already, transpeople don't want to be trans, a transgender woman wants to be a woman, not a woman in a male body. Why shouldn't I grant my child's wish before they're born? It would be heartless not to.</quote> So transitioning is the cure to dysphoria? Would that not mean being trans and gender dysphoria are the same thing?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gunplagirl 07/18/17 8:14:34 PM #234:	Sayoria posted... gunplagirl posted... Sayoria also thinks insulting trans girls who don't pass or can't afford lasers is fair game. I think trans woman should focus on transitioning rather than spending hundreds and thousands of dollars playing dressy up. And many struggle with maintaining or finding employment because they get fired for being trans, so they can't even afford a proper wardrobe. --- Pokemon Moon FC: 1994-2190-5020 IGN: Vanessa <cite>gunplagirl posted [p:883168653] in If you kne... [t:75577103]...</cite> <quote><cite>Sayoria posted...</cite> <quote><cite>gunplagirl posted...</cite> <quote>Sayoria also thinks insulting trans girls who don't pass or can't afford lasers is fair game.</quote> I think trans woman should focus on transitioning rather than spending hundreds and thousands of dollars playing dressy up.</quote> And many struggle with maintaining or finding employment because they get fired for being trans, so they can't even afford a proper wardrobe.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
thelovefist 07/18/17 8:18:14 PM #235:	gunplagirl posted... Sayoria posted... gunplagirl posted... Sayoria also thinks insulting trans girls who don't pass or can't afford lasers is fair game. I think trans woman should focus on transitioning rather than spending hundreds and thousands of dollars playing dressy up. And many struggle with maintaining or finding employment because they get fired for being trans thelovefist posted... gunplagirl's arguments consist of strawmen and whataboutisms. --- N/A <cite>thelovefist posted [p:883168912] in If you kne... [t:75577103]...</cite> <quote><cite>gunplagirl posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Sayoria posted...</cite> <quote><cite>gunplagirl posted...</cite> <quote>Sayoria also thinks insulting trans girls who don't pass or can't afford lasers is fair game.</quote> I think trans woman should focus on transitioning rather than spending hundreds and thousands of dollars playing dressy up.</quote> And many struggle with maintaining or finding employment because they get fired for being trans</quote> <cite>thelovefist posted...</cite> <quote>gunplagirl's arguments consist of strawmen and whataboutisms.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MutantJohn 07/18/17 8:19:25 PM #236:	Lol cure. Classic Admiral. --- "Oh, my mother; oh, my friends, ask the angels, will I ever see heaven again?" - Laura Marling <cite>MutantJohn posted [p:883168966] in If you kne... [t:75577103]...</cite> <quote>Lol cure. Classic Admiral.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gunplagirl 07/18/17 8:25:21 PM #237:	thelovefist posted... gunplagirl posted... Sayoria posted... gunplagirl posted... Sayoria also thinks insulting trans girls who don't pass or can't afford lasers is fair game. I think trans woman should focus on transitioning rather than spending hundreds and thousands of dollars playing dressy up. And many struggle with maintaining or finding employment because they get fired for being trans thelovefist posted... gunplagirl's arguments consist of strawmen and whataboutisms. This isn't a straw man. Link to the actual study inside this link. http://www.hrc.org/blog/transgender-workers-at-greater-risk-for-unemployment-and-poverty --- Pokemon Moon FC: 1994-2190-5020 IGN: Vanessa <cite>gunplagirl posted [p:883169352] in If you kne... [t:75577103]...</cite> <quote><cite>thelovefist posted...</cite> <quote><cite>gunplagirl posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Sayoria posted...</cite> <quote><cite>gunplagirl posted...</cite> <quote>Sayoria also thinks insulting trans girls who don't pass or can't afford lasers is fair game.</quote> I think trans woman should focus on transitioning rather than spending hundreds and thousands of dollars playing dressy up.</quote> And many struggle with maintaining or finding employment because they get fired for being trans</quote> <cite>thelovefist posted...</cite> <quote>gunplagirl's arguments consist of strawmen and whataboutisms.</quote></quote> This isn't a straw man. Link to the actual study inside this link. http://www.hrc.org/blog/transgender-workers-at-greater-risk-for-unemployment-and-poverty</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
IfGodCouldDie 07/18/17 8:26:58 PM #238:	MutantJohn posted... Lol cure. Classic Admiral. You say that like being trans isn't an affliction that many people wish they didn't have to suffer through. --- Mind post. XBL:Cyanide Sucker PSN:Paters1 IGN:SuperPattyCakes <cite>IfGodCouldDie posted [p:883169442] in If you kne... [t:75577103]...</cite> <quote><cite>MutantJohn posted...</cite> <quote>Lol cure. Classic Admiral.</quote> You say that like being trans isn't an affliction that many people wish they didn't have to suffer through.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MutantJohn 07/18/17 8:28:28 PM #239:	IfGodCouldDie posted... MutantJohn posted... Lol cure. Classic Admiral. You say that like being trans isn't an affliction that many people wish they didn't have to suffer through. Affliction may not be the best word choice. Keep in mind, most trans people face social persecution. --- "Oh, my mother; oh, my friends, ask the angels, will I ever see heaven again?" - Laura Marling <cite>MutantJohn posted [p:883169524] in If you kne... [t:75577103]...</cite> <quote><cite>IfGodCouldDie posted...</cite> <quote><cite>MutantJohn posted...</cite> <quote> Lol cure. Classic Admiral.</quote> You say that like being trans isn't an affliction that many people wish they didn't have to suffer through.</quote> Affliction may not be the best word choice. Keep in mind, most trans people face social persecution.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gunplagirl 07/18/17 8:29:29 PM #240:	MutantJohn posted... IfGodCouldDie posted... MutantJohn posted... Lol cure. Classic Admiral. You say that like being trans isn't an affliction that many people wish they didn't have to suffer through. Affliction may not be the best word choice. Keep in mind, most trans people face social persecution. This times a million --- Pokemon Moon FC: 1994-2190-5020 IGN: Vanessa <cite>gunplagirl posted [p:883169578] in If you kne... [t:75577103]...</cite> <quote><cite>MutantJohn posted...</cite> <quote><cite>IfGodCouldDie posted...</cite> <quote><cite>MutantJohn posted...</cite> <quote> Lol cure. Classic Admiral.</quote> You say that like being trans isn't an affliction that many people wish they didn't have to suffer through.</quote> Affliction may not be the best word choice. Keep in mind, most trans people face social persecution.</quote> This times a million</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dragonblade01 07/18/17 8:30:40 PM #241:	gunplagirl posted... thelovefist posted... gunplagirl posted... Sayoria posted... gunplagirl posted... Sayoria also thinks insulting trans girls who don't pass or can't afford lasers is fair game. I think trans woman should focus on transitioning rather than spending hundreds and thousands of dollars playing dressy up. And many struggle with maintaining or finding employment because they get fired for being trans thelovefist posted... gunplagirl's arguments consist of strawmen and whataboutisms. This isn't a straw man. Link to the actual study inside this link. http://www.hrc.org/blog/transgender-workers-at-greater-risk-for-unemployment-and-poverty It's still a strawman argument because you misrepresented her argument to be "Many don't struggle with maintaining or finding employment because they get fired for being trans." Providing evidence for your counter to a strawman argument doesn't change the fact that it's a strawman argument. --- PSN: kazukifafner <cite>Dragonblade01 posted [p:883169648] in If you kne... [t:75577103]...</cite> <quote><cite>gunplagirl posted...</cite> <quote><cite>thelovefist posted...</cite> <quote><cite>gunplagirl posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Sayoria posted...</cite> <quote><cite>gunplagirl posted...</cite> <quote>Sayoria also thinks insulting trans girls who don't pass or can't afford lasers is fair game.</quote> I think trans woman should focus on transitioning rather than spending hundreds and thousands of dollars playing dressy up.</quote> And many struggle with maintaining or finding employment because they get fired for being trans</quote> <cite>thelovefist posted...</cite> <quote>gunplagirl's arguments consist of strawmen and whataboutisms.</quote></quote> This isn't a straw man. Link to the actual study inside this link. http://www.hrc.org/blog/transgender-workers-at-greater-risk-for-unemployment-and-poverty</quote> It's still a strawman argument because you misrepresented her argument to be "Many don't struggle with maintaining or finding employment because they get fired for being trans." Providing evidence for your counter to a strawman argument doesn't change the fact that it's a strawman argument.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
IfGodCouldDie 07/18/17 8:34:18 PM #242:	gunplagirl posted... MutantJohn posted... IfGodCouldDie posted... MutantJohn posted... Lol cure. Classic Admiral. You say that like being trans isn't an affliction that many people wish they didn't have to suffer through. Affliction may not be the best word choice. Keep in mind, most trans people face social persecution. This times a million Yea, so? Its not like i am saying that their persecution is justified. Quite the opposite. Persecuting trans people is terrible especially because it's not something they have any kind of control over. Just like the persecution of most people really. --- Mind post. XBL:Cyanide Sucker PSN:Paters1 IGN:SuperPattyCakes <cite>IfGodCouldDie posted [p:883169879] in If you kne... [t:75577103]...</cite> <quote><cite>gunplagirl posted...</cite> <quote><cite>MutantJohn posted...</cite> <quote><cite>IfGodCouldDie posted...</cite> <quote><cite>MutantJohn posted...</cite> <quote> Lol cure. Classic Admiral.</quote> You say that like being trans isn't an affliction that many people wish they didn't have to suffer through.</quote> Affliction may not be the best word choice. Keep in mind, most trans people face social persecution.</quote> This times a million</quote> Yea, so? Its not like i am saying that their persecution is justified. Quite the opposite. Persecuting trans people is terrible especially because it's not something they have any kind of control over. Just like the persecution of most people really.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Endofall 07/18/17 8:34:45 PM #243:	IfGodCouldDie posted... So transitioning is the cure to dysphoria? Would that not mean being trans and gender dysphoria are the same thing? Yes, the current "cure", not that it works 100% of the time, like everything of course. But no, they're not the same thing. Even after you transition after and don't have dysphoria anymore you're still trans. <cite>Endofall posted [p:883169908] in If you kne... [t:75577103]...</cite> <quote><cite>IfGodCouldDie posted...</cite> <quote> So transitioning is the cure to dysphoria? Would that not mean being trans and gender dysphoria are the same thing?</quote> Yes, the current "cure", not that it works 100% of the time, like everything of course. But no, they're not the same thing. Even after you transition after and don't have dysphoria anymore you're still trans.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gunplagirl 07/18/17 8:49:06 PM #244:	Dragonblade01 posted... gunplagirl posted... thelovefist posted... gunplagirl posted... Sayoria posted... gunplagirl posted... Sayoria also thinks insulting trans girls who don't pass or can't afford lasers is fair game. I think trans woman should focus on transitioning rather than spending hundreds and thousands of dollars playing dressy up. And many struggle with maintaining or finding employment because they get fired for being trans thelovefist posted... gunplagirl's arguments consist of strawmen and whataboutisms. This isn't a straw man. Link to the actual study inside this link. http://www.hrc.org/blog/transgender-workers-at-greater-risk-for-unemployment-and-poverty It's still a strawman argument because you misrepresented her argument to be "Many don't struggle with maintaining or finding employment because they get fired for being trans." Providing evidence for your counter to a strawman argument doesn't change the fact that it's a strawman argument. No, she's saying that they squander what money they have and somehow have thousands of clothing. That's genuinely false of her to assume. And the fact so many struggle with housing and employment runs directly counter to that assumption on her part. How you assumed my interpretation was those words is itself fallacious though. --- Pokemon Moon FC: 1994-2190-5020 IGN: Vanessa <cite>gunplagirl posted [p:883170840] in If you kne... [t:75577103]...</cite> <quote><cite>Dragonblade01 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>gunplagirl posted...</cite> <quote><cite>thelovefist posted...</cite> <quote><cite>gunplagirl posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Sayoria posted...</cite> <quote><cite>gunplagirl posted...</cite> <quote>Sayoria also thinks insulting trans girls who don't pass or can't afford lasers is fair game.</quote> I think trans woman should focus on transitioning rather than spending hundreds and thousands of dollars playing dressy up.</quote> And many struggle with maintaining or finding employment because they get fired for being trans</quote> <cite>thelovefist posted...</cite> <quote>gunplagirl's arguments consist of strawmen and whataboutisms.</quote></quote> This isn't a straw man. Link to the actual study inside this link. http://www.hrc.org/blog/transgender-workers-at-greater-risk-for-unemployment-and-poverty</quote> It's still a strawman argument because you misrepresented her argument to be "Many don't struggle with maintaining or finding employment because they get fired for being trans." Providing evidence for your counter to a strawman argument doesn't change the fact that it's a strawman argument.</quote> No, she's saying that they squander what money they have and somehow have thousands of clothing. That's genuinely false of her to assume. And the fact so many struggle with housing and employment runs directly counter to that assumption on her part. How you assumed my interpretation was those words is itself fallacious though.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gunplagirl 07/18/17 8:50:12 PM #245:	IfGodCouldDie posted... gunplagirl posted... MutantJohn posted... IfGodCouldDie posted... MutantJohn posted... Lol cure. Classic Admiral. You say that like being trans isn't an affliction that many people wish they didn't have to suffer through. Affliction may not be the best word choice. Keep in mind, most trans people face social persecution. This times a million Yea, so? Its not like i am saying that their persecution is justified. Quite the opposite. Persecuting trans people is terrible especially because it's not something they have any kind of control over. Just like the persecution of most people really. And your solution is to make them not exist? What about combating the societal persecution? Would you not help? --- Pokemon Moon FC: 1994-2190-5020 IGN: Vanessa <cite>gunplagirl posted [p:883170922] in If you kne... [t:75577103]...</cite> <quote><cite>IfGodCouldDie posted...</cite> <quote><cite>gunplagirl posted...</cite> <quote><cite>MutantJohn posted...</cite> <quote><cite>IfGodCouldDie posted...</cite> <quote><cite>MutantJohn posted...</cite> <quote> Lol cure. Classic Admiral.</quote> You say that like being trans isn't an affliction that many people wish they didn't have to suffer through.</quote> Affliction may not be the best word choice. Keep in mind, most trans people face social persecution.</quote> This times a million</quote> Yea, so? Its not like i am saying that their persecution is justified. Quite the opposite. Persecuting trans people is terrible especially because it's not something they have any kind of control over. Just like the persecution of most people really.</quote> And your solution is to make them not exist? What about combating the societal persecution? Would you not help?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
thelovefist 07/18/17 9:03:57 PM #246:	Dragonblade01 posted... gunplagirl posted... thelovefist posted... gunplagirl posted... Sayoria posted... gunplagirl posted... Sayoria also thinks insulting trans girls who don't pass or can't afford lasers is fair game. I think trans woman should focus on transitioning rather than spending hundreds and thousands of dollars playing dressy up. And many struggle with maintaining or finding employment because they get fired for being trans thelovefist posted... gunplagirl's arguments consist of strawmen and whataboutisms. This isn't a straw man. Link to the actual study inside this link. http://www.hrc.org/blog/transgender-workers-at-greater-risk-for-unemployment-and-poverty It's still a strawman argument because you misrepresented her argument to be "Many don't struggle with maintaining or finding employment because they get fired for being trans." Providing evidence for your counter to a strawman argument doesn't change the fact that it's a strawman argument. It's also a joke source to support a strawman --- N/A <cite>thelovefist posted [p:883171765] in If you kne... [t:75577103]...</cite> <quote><cite>Dragonblade01 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>gunplagirl posted...</cite> <quote><cite>thelovefist posted...</cite> <quote><cite>gunplagirl posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Sayoria posted...</cite> <quote><cite>gunplagirl posted...</cite> <quote>Sayoria also thinks insulting trans girls who don't pass or can't afford lasers is fair game.</quote> I think trans woman should focus on transitioning rather than spending hundreds and thousands of dollars playing dressy up.</quote> And many struggle with maintaining or finding employment because they get fired for being trans</quote> <cite>thelovefist posted...</cite> <quote>gunplagirl's arguments consist of strawmen and whataboutisms.</quote></quote> This isn't a straw man. Link to the actual study inside this link. http://www.hrc.org/blog/transgender-workers-at-greater-risk-for-unemployment-and-poverty</quote> It's still a strawman argument because you misrepresented her argument to be "Many don't struggle with maintaining or finding employment because they get fired for being trans." Providing evidence for your counter to a strawman argument doesn't change the fact that it's a strawman argument.</quote> It's also a joke source to support a strawman</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gunplagirl 07/18/17 9:52:21 PM #247:	thelovefist posted... Dragonblade01 posted... gunplagirl posted... thelovefist posted... thelovefist posted... gunplagirl's arguments consist of strawmen and whataboutisms. This isn't a straw man. Link to the actual study inside this link. http://www.hrc.org/blog/transgender-workers-at-greater-risk-for-unemployment-and-poverty It's still a strawman argument because you misrepresented her argument to be "Many don't struggle with maintaining or finding employment because they get fired for being trans." Providing evidence for your counter to a strawman argument doesn't change the fact that it's a strawman argument. It's also a joke source to support a strawman http://www.ustranssurvey.org/report/ Largest ever survey of united states trans people. Still says employment, both finding and keeping it, is extremely high on our list of problems. --- Pokemon Moon FC: 1994-2190-5020 IGN: Vanessa <cite>gunplagirl posted [p:883174862] in If you kne... [t:75577103]...</cite> <quote><cite>thelovefist posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Dragonblade01 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>gunplagirl posted...</cite> <quote><cite>thelovefist posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>thelovefist posted...</cite> <quote>gunplagirl's arguments consist of strawmen and whataboutisms.</quote></quote> This isn't a straw man. Link to the actual study inside this link. http://www.hrc.org/blog/transgender-workers-at-greater-risk-for-unemployment-and-poverty</quote> It's still a strawman argument because you misrepresented her argument to be "Many don't struggle with maintaining or finding employment because they get fired for being trans." Providing evidence for your counter to a strawman argument doesn't change the fact that it's a strawman argument.</quote> It's also a joke source to support a strawman</quote> http://www.ustranssurvey.org/report/ Largest ever survey of united states trans people. Still says employment, both finding and keeping it, is extremely high on our list of problems.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
IfGodCouldDie 07/18/17 9:54:45 PM #248:	Endofall posted... IfGodCouldDie posted... So transitioning is the cure to dysphoria? Would that not mean being trans and gender dysphoria are the same thing? Yes, the current "cure", not that it works 100% of the time, like everything of course. But no, they're not the same thing. Even after you transition after and don't have dysphoria anymore you're still trans. So someone that suffers from gender dysphoria will always be trans no matter what? --- Mind post. XBL:Cyanide Sucker PSN:Paters1 IGN:SuperPattyCakes <cite>IfGodCouldDie posted [p:883175002] in If you kne... [t:75577103]...</cite> <quote><cite>Endofall posted...</cite> <quote><cite>IfGodCouldDie posted...</cite> <quote> So transitioning is the cure to dysphoria? Would that not mean being trans and gender dysphoria are the same thing?</quote> Yes, the current "cure", not that it works 100% of the time, like everything of course. But no, they're not the same thing. Even after you transition after and don't have dysphoria anymore you're still trans.</quote> So someone that suffers from gender dysphoria will always be trans no matter what?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
IfGodCouldDie 07/18/17 9:55:19 PM #249:	gunplagirl posted... IfGodCouldDie posted... gunplagirl posted... MutantJohn posted... IfGodCouldDie posted... MutantJohn posted... Lol cure. Classic Admiral. You say that like being trans isn't an affliction that many people wish they didn't have to suffer through. Affliction may not be the best word choice. Keep in mind, most trans people face social persecution. This times a million Yea, so? Its not like i am saying that their persecution is justified. Quite the opposite. Persecuting trans people is terrible especially because it's not something they have any kind of control over. Just like the persecution of most people really. And your solution is to make them not exist? What about combating the societal persecution? Would you not help? Where did I say that? --- Mind post. XBL:Cyanide Sucker PSN:Paters1 IGN:SuperPattyCakes <cite>IfGodCouldDie posted [p:883175044] in If you kne... [t:75577103]...</cite> <quote><cite>gunplagirl posted...</cite> <quote><cite>IfGodCouldDie posted...</cite> <quote><cite>gunplagirl posted...</cite> <quote><cite>MutantJohn posted...</cite> <quote><cite>IfGodCouldDie posted...</cite> <quote><cite>MutantJohn posted...</cite> <quote> Lol cure. Classic Admiral.</quote> You say that like being trans isn't an affliction that many people wish they didn't have to suffer through.</quote> Affliction may not be the best word choice. Keep in mind, most trans people face social persecution.</quote> This times a million</quote> Yea, so? Its not like i am saying that their persecution is justified. Quite the opposite. Persecuting trans people is terrible especially because it's not something they have any kind of control over. Just like the persecution of most people really.</quote> And your solution is to make them not exist? What about combating the societal persecution? Would you not help?</quote> Where did I say that?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dragonblade01 07/18/17 9:55:19 PM #250:	gunplagirl posted... No, she's saying that they squander what money they have and somehow have thousands of clothing. That's genuinely false of her to assume. And the fact so many struggle with housing and employment runs directly counter to that assumption on her part. How you assumed my interpretation was those words is itself fallacious though. No it isn't, because it was required for you to interpret her statement as such in order for you to reply the way you did. Hell, you just now admitted that's how you're interpreting it. And you're still strawmanning her argument, which is fundamentally that they aren't focusing on what they need to. --- PSN: kazukifafner <cite>Dragonblade01 posted [p:883175046] in If you kne... [t:75577103]...</cite> <quote><cite>gunplagirl posted...</cite> <quote>No, she's saying that they squander what money they have and somehow have thousands of clothing. That's genuinely false of her to assume. And the fact so many struggle with housing and employment runs directly counter to that assumption on her part. How you assumed my interpretation was those words is itself fallacious though.</quote> No it isn't, because it was required for you to interpret her statement as such in order for you to reply the way you did. Hell, you just now admitted that's how you're interpreting it. And you're still strawmanning her argument, which is fundamentally that they aren't focusing on what they need to.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gunplagirl 07/18/17 9:58:46 PM #251:	Dragonblade01 posted... gunplagirl posted... No, she's saying that they squander what money they have and somehow have thousands of clothing. That's genuinely false of her to assume. And the fact so many struggle with housing and employment runs directly counter to that assumption on her part. How you assumed my interpretation was those words is itself fallacious though. No it isn't, because it was required for you to interpret her statement as such in order for you to reply the way you did. Hell, you just now admitted that's how you're interpreting it. And you're still strawmanning her argument, which is fundamentally that they aren't focusing on what they need to. She said that they need to stop wasting money. My response is "what money" God you're daft --- Pokemon Moon FC: 1994-2190-5020 IGN: Vanessa <cite>gunplagirl posted [p:883175284] in If you kne... [t:75577103]...</cite> <quote><cite>Dragonblade01 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>gunplagirl posted...</cite> <quote>No, she's saying that they squander what money they have and somehow have thousands of clothing. That's genuinely false of her to assume. And the fact so many struggle with housing and employment runs directly counter to that assumption on her part. How you assumed my interpretation was those words is itself fallacious though.</quote> No it isn't, because it was required for you to interpret her statement as such in order for you to reply the way you did. Hell, you just now admitted that's how you're interpreting it. And you're still strawmanning her argument, which is fundamentally that they aren't focusing on what they need to.</quote> She said that they need to stop wasting money. My response is "what money" God you're daft</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Topic List	Page List: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7

Current Events > If you knew your child would be born transgender, but there was a pre-natal cure (+) Yeah! (+)

Current Events > If you knew your child would be born transgender, but there was a pre-natal cure