Current Events > 33-year-old "nice guy" virgin bitter about his standing in life.

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Sojy posted...

People's standards should be in line with their looks, personality, what they bring to the table, rather than how lucky they are or what genitals they've been blessed with.

They are. The difference is that "nice guys" have a warped sense of "what they bring to the table."
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Solar_Crimson posted...

MakoReizei posted...

orangefire25 posted...

MakoReizei posted...

Women don't like nice guys. They want bad boys.

BS

How is it BS? Just look at that guy's post. He said he treated women like queens. That's his problem right there.

Sounds more like he was passive and not forward in his feelings.

Meanwhile, these "bad boys" exude an air of confidence and are right-to-the-point regarding what they want.

thats what i'm guessing. he could very well treat women nice, the problem with that approach is that its not going to get you noticed. you think treating a girl nice stands out in her mind? it doesn't, an asshole at least is going to make some response. Guy is probably just a face in crowd.

theres also that whole you made it to 33 trying the same thing and not getting any results. well you better count on the world to change to met your standards. your approach is shit, your mating strategy is shit, and your failures are your own old man
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Solar_Crimson posted...

Sounds more like he was passive and not forward in his feelings.

Meanwhile, these "bad boys" exude an air of confidence and are right-to-the-point regarding what they want.

Bullshit. I was forward and straight to the point with this girl:

https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/400-current-events/75560833

And I got ignored.
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Tadamoto16 posted...

Solar_Crimson posted...

Sounds more like he was passive and not forward in his feelings.

Meanwhile, these "bad boys" exude an air of confidence and are right-to-the-point regarding what they want.

Bullshit. I was forward and straight to the point with this girl:

https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/400-current-events/75560833

And I got ignored.

When people mean 'straight to the point' they don't mean some weird ass dramatic message sent to a girl you've been talking to online for over 2 years.
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Tadamoto16 posted...

Solar_Crimson posted...

Sounds more like he was passive and not forward in his feelings.

Meanwhile, these "bad boys" exude an air of confidence and are right-to-the-point regarding what they want.

Bullshit. I was forward and straight to the point with this girl:

https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/400-current-events/75560833

And I got ignored.

You talked to a girl online for 3 years and never went to meet her in person. That's not on her.
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Darmik posted...

Sojy posted...

It's not "bare minimum" considering the amount of dudes who cheat on, yell at, insult, etc. their girls and still get laid regularly. I don't know why you people keep trying to put these blinders on reality when everyone knows what happens out there.

He literally insults women in his Facebook post so he even fails that standard.

Women do the same damn thing, maybe at an equal or higher rate than men.

Hell. women initiate, what, 70% of divorces, or some shit?

Women get bored, dude. Men typically get complacent and comfortable with a long lasting relationship, and women get bored and want something more.

I've been married twice. I'm currently still married to my second wife, and hoping to keep this one. It's work, though, bro. I'm gonna try not to fuck it up.

If I don't do shit that makes her happy, I can see her happiness meter start to deplete. It's like one those damn digital pets or something.
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Girls don't want nice guys, they want cool guys. Being nice and respectable is part of being cool, but it's not the only thing. Most of the time you see people whining like this its because they're boring, uninteresting humans that are bad at decision making and have birthday parties at places like PF Changs.
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Mr_Legendia posted...

Kanaya413 posted...

Girls don't like boys girls like expensive anime figures

Doing nice things in order to get into a girls pants doesn't mean you're a "nice guy"
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MegaButterfree posted...

orangefire25 posted...

MegaButterfree posted...

He's probably fat. If so that's like 99% of the problem right there.

Doubt that his physical form has a whole lot to do with his fucking luck with girls. lol

Physical appearance is the most important thing when it comes to actually getting someone to not be completely put off & uninterested in you from the git-go, so I think it might have a lot to do with it.

I've known plenty of large individuals who had luck dating. That's both male and female.
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Darmik posted...

Sojy posted...

Darmik posted...

Why is the woman getting laid the one with standards that are too high?

People's standards should be in line with their looks, personality, what they bring to the table, rather than how lucky they are or what genitals they've been blessed with.

And this guy apparently fails on both counts so?

Ideally the latter wouldn't be a factor at all. Men and women would prefer each other at equal rates rather than men getting the short end of the stick because they popped out the womb as dudes.

It'll never be like that, but when taking the fact that it isn't like that into account, people shouldn't get mad at this dude. A woman who was exactly like him except for being a woman (let's even say she's flatchested like him to add a handicap) would probably not be a 33 year old foreveralone.

Dyinglegacy posted...

Darmik posted...

Sojy posted...

It's not "bare minimum" considering the amount of dudes who cheat on, yell at, insult, etc. their girls and still get laid regularly. I don't know why you people keep trying to put these blinders on reality when everyone knows what happens out there.

He literally insults women in his Facebook post so he even fails that standard.

Women do the same damn thing, maybe at even an equal or higher rate than men.

Hell. women initiate, what, 70% of divorces, or some shit?

Women get bored, dude. Men typically get complacent and comfortable with a long lasting relationship, and women get bored and want something more.

I've been married twice. I'm currently still married to my second wife, and hoping to keep this one. It's work, though, bro. I'm gonna try not to fuck it up.

If I don't do shit that makes her happy, I can see her happiness meter start to deplete. It's like one those damn digital pets or something.

"Wahh"

Yeah people are assholes. Some people can be assholes and still be successful. The guy in the OP isn't one of them. Boohoo. It's not the fault of society that nobody wants to fuck him.

Shame that your marriage seems to be like a job. It's not like that for me. My wife is my best friend and making each other happy comes natural.


Sojy posted...

Ideally the latter wouldn't be a factor at all. Men and women would prefer each other at equal rates rather than men getting the short end of the stick because they popped out the womb as dudes.

It'll never be like that, but when taking the fact that it isn't like that, people shouldn't get mad at this dude. A woman who was exactly like him except for being a woman (let's even say she's flatchested like him to add a handicap) would probably not be a 33 year old foreveralone.

More crying.

Men are more competitive and aggressive when it comes to finding a partner. That's just how it is. It's got nothing to do with women desiring men less.

For a lot of men (hell probably most of them) it's an advantage that we get to be the pursuer more often.
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MegaButterfree posted...

Hah.

Look at all you know. When I first met my wife, I thought she was to too tall, too skinny, and too wealthy. Never judge a book by it's cover and never assume anything...
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Guys who call themselves 'nice' really not that nice. They're bitter, angry, passive aggressive and emotionally weak. They also hate women.

'Bad' boys are really not bad. They're confident, emotionally strong and treats women way better than 'nice' guys.

I mean seriously...whining on facebook on his birthday. That's just weak. Maybe he should swallow his pride and work on his biggest weakness...his personality.
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Darmik posted...

"Wahh"

Yeah people are assholes. Some people can be assholes and still be successful. The guy in the OP isn't one of them. Boohoo. It's not the fault of society that nobody wants to fuck him.

Shame that your marriage seems to be like a job. It's not like that for me. My wife is my best friend and making each other happy comes natural.

I wasn't talking to you. I was talking the guy you quoted. I just quoted you because that was the most recent post at the time.

But since you directed that at me, I'll forward this to you.

We've been married for about a decade. Over twice as long as my first marriage. Things are good, and she is my best friend. Even best friends have the occasional disagreement.

We are actually getting a new house next week. Scheduled to move in on the 25th. Also, we have a 3 year old together, and are planning on having ONE more. No more than that, though.

Things aren't perfect, by any means. What is?

Overall, though? We're pretty damn happy, especially compared to the majority of marriages.
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Darmik posted...

Yeah people are assholes. Some people can be assholes and still be successful. The guy in the OP isn't one of them. Boohoo.

And double standards aren't worth pointing out? You're more of a doormat than this guy.

Darmik posted...

More crying.

Facts aren't crying. I'm telling you guys to stop crying about this dude as if he did something bad. He's in a shit situation and he's confused and he's lamenting it. As people who've probably lived better social lives you should stop shitting on the guy as if, no, whatever your grievances are with sadsack dudes are are worse than whatever problems they've been suffering for years.

Sure he said something mildly out of line on the internet, but if there was a topic mocking everyone who did that we'd be flooded with posts mocking some woman complaining about guys being jerks all the time, while dating the same types of guys with the same red flags over and over regardless. But no, people accept that for what it is: venting.

Darmik posted...

Men are more competitive and aggressive when it comes to finding a partner. That's just how it is. It's got nothing to do with women desiring men less.

Well whatever it is, we have to acknowledge it isn't as easy for a dude to find a partner. And it should be fine to vent about that.

Darmik posted...

For a lot of men (hell probably most of them) it's an advantage that we get to be the pursuer more often.

Good for them. They're lucky that they're naturally adapted to how dating traditions work in modern society. Not everyone is.

Some people get the short end of the stick with how much society approves their natural personality. Personality isn't scrutinized as much in women as it is in men. So some men get way left out of the game just because of how they developed. That doesn't mean there's something wrong with how they developed, just that they had bad luck.

GreatEvilEmpire posted...

Guys who call themselves 'nice' really not that nice. They're bitter, angry, passive aggressive and emotionally weak. They also hate women.

^ This is the type of stuff I'm talking about. People insulting and making all sorts of out of line assumptions about a guy just because he's not desired in dating.

GreatEvilEmpire posted...

'Bad' boys are really not bad. They're confident, emotionally strong and treats women way better than 'nice' guys.

Why does cheating and abuse exist then? That comment makes literally no sense.

Tadamoto16 posted...

Solar_Crimson posted...

Sounds more like he was passive and not forward in his feelings.

Meanwhile, these "bad boys" exude an air of confidence and are right-to-the-point regarding what they want.

Bullshit. I was forward and straight to the point with this girl:

https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/400-current-events/75560833

And I got ignored.

You texted someone...how is that straight forward and to the point? You've been friendzoned long before that. If you really want to be straight forward, you do it in person.
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Sojy posted...

And double standards aren't worth pointing out? You're more of a doormat than this guy.

What double standard? Plenty of nice people get laid too. It's way too complicated to boil down to a double standard and nothing else.

Sojy posted...

Facts aren't crying. I'm telling you guys to stop crying about this dude as if he did something bad. He's in a s*** situation and he's confused and he's lamenting it. As people who've probably lived better social lives you should stop s***ting on the guy as if, no, whatever your grievances are with sadsack dudes are are worse than whatever problems they've been suffering for years.

Sure he said something mildly out of line on the internet, but if there was a topic mocking everyone who did that we'd be flooded with posts mocking some woman complaining about guys being jerks all the time, while dating the same types of guys with the same red flags over and over regardless. But no, people accept that for what it is: venting.

Ranting on Facebook about women is just sealing your fate. That's stuck on his Facebook for all of his friends to remember. So yeah he deserves to be mocked. And yes women also post dumb things about men. It's almost like both genders have a huge variety of people and problems.

Sojy posted...

Well whatever it is, we have to acknowledge it isn't as easy for a dude to find a partner. And it should be fine to vent about that.

Wait is this about a partner or sex? A partner that is actually good isn't easy for either gender to find.

Sex is easy if you're willing to remove your standards and perhaps your pride.

Sojy posted...

Some people get the short end of the stick with how much society approves their natural personality. Personality isn't scrutinized as much in women as it is in men. So some men get way left out of the game just because of how they developed. That doesn't mean there's something wrong with how they developed, just that they had bad luck.

Being a bitter loser isn't a personality. It's a personal failure. People who have fail need to try and fix it. Not whine and blame everyone else.

People don't collude and decide to exclude giant groups of men. It's individuals who don't have social skills who can't handle social interactions and as a result can't find a partner.
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Sojy posted...

Why does cheating and abuse exist then? That comment makes literally no sense.

Even the most upstanding individual is capable of shitty choices if they don't guard themselves.
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WizardPowers posted...

damn offering to pay for other people's meals on his birthday

This happened
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Sojy posted...

^ This is the type of stuff I'm talking about. People insulting and making all sorts of out of line assumptions about a guy just because he's not desired in dating.

Assumptions? Beta males has certain traits that are easily distinguishable. Don't give me the nonsense that I don't know him. It's quite obvious from his post that he is bitter and angry. The truth hurts.
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Honestly, this dude sounds like he needs a "bigbrother" type mentor in this life.
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Sojy posted...

^ This is the type of stuff I'm talking about. People insulting and making all sorts of out of line assumptions about a guy just because he's not desired in dating.

You constantly see self professed nice guys doing all of those things though.

And even when they aren't actually passive agressive dicks they are often very dependent and captiulating which they mistake for a plus when in reality it gets old really fast. That can't be held against those dudes at all but like.... You think you'd try something different when it hasn't worked for that long. Realize you're going about it wrong as opposed to assuming it's everyone else who has a problem. You know the definition of insanity...
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Sojy posted...

Darmik posted...

MakoReizei posted...

orangefire25 posted...

MakoReizei posted...

Women don't like nice guys. They want bad boys.

BS

How is it BS? Just look at that guy's post. He said he treated women like queens. That's his problem right there.

Sure that's the problem. Not that he is spending his 33rd birthday ranting about society because he hasn't been laid and thinks women are too stupid to see how great he is.

That's his response to the situation, not the cause of the situation.

Also for people saying he's not forward, he's literally announcing a party in the post.

It gives insight into his mentality/ behavior, which is a major factor behind the cause of the situation. Quit talking when you clearly don't know shit.
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Darmik posted...

Ranting on Facebook about women is just sealing your fate. That's stuck on his Facebook for all of his friends to remember. So yeah he deserves to be mocked. And yes women also post dumb things about men. It's almost like both genders have a huge variety of people and problems.

Usually friends prove emotional support for friends who are struggling.

Darmik posted...

Wait is this about a partner or sex? A partner that is actually good isn't easy for either gender to find.

Sex is easy if you're willing to remove your standards and perhaps your pride.

It's entirely possible to be in a personality caste where neither is easy regardless of standards. It's easier for a dude to fall into such a caste.

Darmik posted...

Being a bitter loser isn't a personality. It's a personal failure. People who have fail need to try and fix it. Not whine and blame everyone else.

This is like saying someone fails for not being born a wealthy heir. No. Bad luck is not failure. People who just happen to be unattractive, and even people who vent about it, don't deserve to be shit on on top of the fact that they have to live their lives alone.

Darmik posted...

People don't collude and decide to exclude giant groups of men. It's individuals who don't have social skills who can't handle social interactions and as a result can't find a partner.

If we're going to acknowledge that men are more aggressive in finding a partner, it could be said that modern era feminist teachings that aim to have men be less aggressive towards women could be hindering the prospects of the men who listen to those teachings.

Lmao, it's telling how many people on CE are just like the guy in the OP, what with the defense force coming to his rescue.
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GOATSLAYER posted...

He reminds me of Elliot Rodgers

Same lol what a fucking pathetic loser.
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Sojy posted...

This is like saying someone fails for not being born a wealthy heir. No. Bad luck is not failure. People who just happen to be unattractive, and even people who vent about it, don't deserve to be shit on on top of the fact that they have to live their lives alone.

Plenty of unattractive people aren't bitter virgin dorks. Dude failed.
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mrtopgoon327 posted...

It gives insight into his mentality/ behavior, which is a major factor behind the cause of the situation. Quit talking when you clearly don't know shit.

Except you don't know if it's the cause or if his mentality was just created by his previous bad luck. Don't be a brainless joke.

mrtopgoon327 posted...

Sojy posted...

This is like saying someone fails for not being born a wealthy heir. No. Bad luck is not failure. People who just happen to be unattractive, and even people who vent about it, don't deserve to be shit on on top of the fact that they have to live their lives alone.

Plenty of unattractive people aren't bitter virgin dorks. Dude failed.

People aren't allowed to be frustrated about bad luck now?

He made one bad assumption/generalization on the internet after decades of loneliness. Now all of a sudden he's the devil and deserves tons of insults? Nah.

Sojy posted...

mrtopgoon327 posted...

It gives insight into his mentality/ behavior, which is a major factor behind the cause of the situation. Quit talking when you clearly don't know shit.

Except you don't know if it's the cause or if his mentality was just created by his previous bad luck. Don't be a brainless joke.

Bad luck, lol. Typical leftist mindset...you're not responsible for being a virgin at 33...it's bad luck. Stop listening to feminist garbage.
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Sojy posted...

Usually friends prove emotional support for friends who are struggling.

If he's looking for support maybe he should be approaching it in a better way. Likely something he should be doing with a lot of things in his life.

Sojy posted...

It's entirely possible to be in a personality caste where neither is easy regardless of standards. It's easier for a dude to fall into such a caste.

Nah. Go onto craigslist or your local ads and have a look if all you want is sex. This is easier for men in comparison. Hell where I live if you have a hundred bucks you won't need to travel far to get laid right away. Women don't have that luxury.


Sojy posted...

This is like saying someone fails for not being born a wealthy heir. No. Bad luck is not failure. People who just happen to be unattractive, and even people who vent about it, don't deserve to be s*** on on top of the fact that they have to live their lives alone.

He's not whining about not being rich.

And yes not finding a partner despite wanting one is a personal failure. Doesn't matter who you are.

Sojy posted...

If we're going to acknowledge that men are more aggressive in finding a partner, it could be said that modern era feminist teachings that aim to have men be less aggressive towards women could be hindering the prospects of the men who listen to those teachings.

Depends entirely on what you mean by 'aggressive'

But the sexual dynamics between men and women are just different in general. It's never going to be exactly the same. Both men and women would need to drastically change how they view sex and relationships.

Even if that happened I doubt anything would change for dudes like this.
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ay lmao
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Fuck, I'd show up for free food
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GreatEvilEmpire posted...

Sojy posted...

mrtopgoon327 posted...

It gives insight into his mentality/ behavior, which is a major factor behind the cause of the situation. Quit talking when you clearly don't know shit.

Except you don't know if it's the cause or if his mentality was just created by his previous bad luck. Don't be a brainless joke.

Bad luck, lol. Typical leftist mindset...you're not responsible for being a virgin at 33...it's bad luck. Stop listening to feminist garbage.

The feminist garbage here is that if women don't like you then you must be a bad person.

As far as I know there's nothing you can do to make you 100% certain to get laid, so yes luck is a factor. If this guy naturally developed a pussy repellent personality then that's also bad luck. If he's ugly as fuck that's bad luck.

Sojy posted...

mrtopgoon327 posted...

It gives insight into his mentality/ behavior, which is a major factor behind the cause of the situation. Quit talking when you clearly don't know shit.

Except you don't know if it's the cause or if his mentality was just created by his previous bad luck. Don't be a brainless joke.

You think that post is helping his cause, dork? I bet you dudes energy says that shit all day, shit is female repellent mang. However it came to be, shit is who he is now, he failed and let it happen. If you're a virgin at 33 and it's not by choice, you failed.
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Conflict posted...

Also lol @ this Sojy guy

No arguments son?

mrtopgoon327 posted...

Sojy posted...

mrtopgoon327 posted...

It gives insight into his mentality/ behavior, which is a major factor behind the cause of the situation. Quit talking when you clearly don't know shit.

Except you don't know if it's the cause or if his mentality was just created by his previous bad luck. Don't be a brainless joke.

You think that post is helping his cause, dork? I bet you dudes energy says that shit all day, shit is female repellent mang. However it came to be, shit is who he is now, he failed and let it happen. If you're a virgin at 33 and it's not by choice, you failed.

It's entirely possible he's not that bad of a person and just isn't attractive to chicks. Like if a woman is butch as hell and basically looks and sounds like a dude, a lot of guys won't like her, but I don't think that makes her a bad person.

He's apparently social enough to have friends who he can invite outside, so he's around people, he just isn't attractive to chicks.

Conflict posted...

Also lol @ this nice guy™

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Conflict posted...

orangefire25 posted...

I hope there aren't any dudes on this damn board like him.

Lol

I got some bad news for you

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Sojy posted...

As far as I know there's nothing you can do to make you 100% certain to get laid, so yes luck is a factor.

Yes there is. Pay someone who'll provide you with that service.


Sojy posted...

If this guy naturally developed a p**** repellent personality then that's also bad luck. If he's ugly as f*** that's bad luck.

Err how is having a repellent personality bad luck? It's not that hard to be friendly to people.

Being ugly means you'll likely need to find someone who is also ugly though
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Sojy posted...

As far as I know there's nothing you can do to make you 100% certain to get laid, so yes luck is a factor. If this guy naturally developed a pussy repellent personality then that's also bad luck. If he's ugly as fuck that's bad luck.

Go outside and see all the ugly people that are married. It's not the reason he's a virgin. It's because he sounds like an asshole.
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I like how the "nice guys" only want the attractive girls to fuck them but they arent being the "nice guys" to unattractive women or women outside their standards

"I'm only a nice guy when i think i can get something out of it"

Also i utterly despise the "nice guys"
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Darmik posted...

Err how is having a repellent personality bad luck? It's not that hard to be friendly to people.

Yeah you control who you are ffs.

If you regularly make people dislike you and wish it were different fucking get some self awareness and figure it out.
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I4NRulez posted...

Also i utterly despise the "nice guys"

Eh, I thought it was a pretty good movie.
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Tadamoto16 posted...

Solar_Crimson posted...

Sounds more like he was passive and not forward in his feelings.

Meanwhile, these "bad boys" exude an air of confidence and are right-to-the-point regarding what they want.

Bullshit. I was forward and straight to the point with this girl:

https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/400-current-events/75560833

And I got ignored.

Considering your comments on women in the past, I think you have more problems that you need to work on.
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