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ClockworkHare
07/16/17 3:31:34 PM
#51:


Would you rather be a racist, or a social justice warrior?

Let's be real.

In some cases, you don't have to choose these days.

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Capn Circus
07/16/17 3:34:33 PM
#53:


Mal_Fet posted...
ImAMarvel posted...
Racists?

You do realize the number of violent hate crimes has sprung up since Trump's election, right?

Claims of hate crimes.

http://nypost.com/2016/11/13/the-fake-post-election-hate-crime-epidemic-a-muslim-womans-vote-for-trump-and-other-commentary/

Lefties will make up shit to get attention or to bash someone they dislike. It's a well-recorded phenomenon.


When you aren't a victim like the narrative you stand behind says, make yourself a victim.
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Ammonitida
07/16/17 3:35:30 PM
#54:


ImAMarvel posted...
Mal_Fet posted...
From an ideological level probably, but we both know which side is committing all the violence against innocents.


Racists?

You do realize the number of violent hate crimes has sprung up since Trump's election, right?

Capn Circus posted...
They don't go around rioting because of the outcome of our elections and they don't burn down their campus because of a speaker.

They also don't spray paint things they're supposedly against on buildings to blame it on the side they hate.


Oh, right.

http://dailycaller.com/2017/04/15/antifa-and-trump-supporters-battle-at-berkeley-again/


You do realize that most victims of violent hate crimes this year have been white?

For 2017 so far, we've had 7 hate crime murders.

5 of the victims were white, killed in three separate attacks -- all for being the wrong color.

Yeah, Trump's America.

http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-fresno-shooting-20170418-story.html

http://www.wlwt.com/article/prosecutor-to-discuss-fatal-shooting-of-man-who-struck-4-year-old-with-car/9270770

http://www.kiro7.com/news/local/dicks-stabbing-suspect-f-whitey-take-me-to-jail/542942864

Edit -- there were two more hate crime murders, but they were minority on minority. In one case, a mentally ill black man shot and killed a Latino at a bar, screaming about Mexican cartels, etc. In the other, a trio of black men killed an Indian-American store owner, in an attack that had racial overtones.

http://www.thestate.com/news/state/south-carolina/article157382694.html

Edit again -- There was also the anti-cop shooting in NYC recently, perped by a cop-hating left-wing extremist.
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--kresnik--
07/16/17 3:36:53 PM
#55:


Hahahahaha the results are surprising.
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thanosibe
07/16/17 3:37:25 PM
#56:


They're both pretty artful tbh. Both groups judge people by one aspect; race/skin color, sexuality, gender, etc and make as if that one aspect is all encompassing of that person and therefore see that person as that one aspect. Racists tend to do if for feelings of superiority. The other group does it out of misguided notion that they are helping out a group by making that aspect their defining quality as a human being and then making it known to the world why this group needs attention. But they both do it for their own satisfaction.

Most normal individuals are fine to treat each individual person in fairness and kindness on a person to person basis. Not adhearing to any such generalizations that both racist and social justice warriors do. The selfishness of both groups makes for some of the most embarrassing human behavior. We are all unique and not to be lumped by small aspects of ourselves by others such as skin color, gender and sexuality.
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Bishop9800
07/16/17 3:50:27 PM
#57:


The Admiral posted...

Guess deflection was the only card you had left


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Dabrikishaw15
07/16/17 3:53:13 PM
#58:


You have to be really, really stupid about both of these terms to prefer being a racist.
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creativerealms
07/16/17 3:59:43 PM
#59:


SJWs are only a problem if you are an easily triggered special snowflake otherwise they are harmless. Racists are far worse.
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GiftedACIII
07/16/17 4:11:04 PM
#60:


snovvlybub posted...
truscum

You mean, the scientific aspect and not "however I feel like it"? "Truscum" is the default of the trans community and the idea that you can change genders like clothing/be agender goes into delusional territory like the people who marry fictional characters
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donkeyjack
07/16/17 4:11:17 PM
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Racist.
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Mal_Fet
07/16/17 4:11:23 PM
#62:


creativerealms posted...
SJWs are only a problem if you are an easily triggered special snowflake otherwise they are harmless.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hthHHX-oJh8

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snovvlybub
07/16/17 4:13:05 PM
#63:


GiftedACIII posted...
snovvlybub posted...
truscum

You mean, the scientific aspect and not "however I feel like it"? "Truscum" is the default of the trans community and the idea that you can change genders like clothing/be agender goes into delusional territory like the people who marry fictional characters

truscum ideology hinges on gender essentialism which has no basis in science so
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GiftedACIII
07/16/17 4:25:58 PM
#64:


snovvlybub posted...
GiftedACIII posted...
snovvlybub posted...
truscum

You mean, the scientific aspect and not "however I feel like it"? "Truscum" is the default of the trans community and the idea that you can change genders like clothing/be agender goes into delusional territory like the people who marry fictional characters

truscum ideology hinges on gender essentialism which has no basis in science so


No it doesn't. "truscum", a buzzword used by no one other than a minority of idiots like globbers and 3DPD hinges on established key concepts like gender dysphoria and the brain. "Tucute" ideology hinges on being delusional, made up, and deviant. Like, the people who literally invented those concepts are tumblr users, one called "idislikecispeople" and have zero grounds in reality/science. They have as much relevancy as people who marry fictional characters. They trivialize the trans community who aren't delusional and make them seem like jokes
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Paper_Okami
07/16/17 4:28:55 PM
#65:


ImAMarvel posted...
jesus, these results

ThyCorndog posted...
Kid_Buu posted...
why was i even surprised at the results tbh

this

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snovvlybub
07/16/17 4:30:51 PM
#66:


GiftedACIII posted...
snovvlybub posted...
GiftedACIII posted...
snovvlybub posted...
truscum

You mean, the scientific aspect and not "however I feel like it"? "Truscum" is the default of the trans community and the idea that you can change genders like clothing/be agender goes into delusional territory like the people who marry fictional characters

truscum ideology hinges on gender essentialism which has no basis in science so


No it doesn't. "truscum", a buzzword used by no one other than a minority of idiots like globbers and 3DPD hinges on established key concepts like gender dysphoria and the brain. "Tucute" ideology hinges on being delusional, made up, and deviant. Like, the people who literally invented those concepts are tumblr users, one called "idislikecispeople" and have zero grounds in reality/science. They have as much relevancy as people who marry fictional characters. They trivialize the trans community who aren't delusional and make them seem like jokes

the idea that gender dysphoria is central in the trans experience is gender essentialism which again has no basis in science so
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MLGSerperior111
07/16/17 4:30:54 PM
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Iodine posted...
just lol.

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pinky0926
07/16/17 4:31:00 PM
#68:


CE showing its true colours once again.

"I'd rather be an actual bigot than an annoying smug person"
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GiftedACIII
07/16/17 4:35:46 PM
#69:


snovvlybub posted...
GiftedACIII posted...
snovvlybub posted...
GiftedACIII posted...
snovvlybub posted...
truscum

You mean, the scientific aspect and not "however I feel like it"? "Truscum" is the default of the trans community and the idea that you can change genders like clothing/be agender goes into delusional territory like the people who marry fictional characters

truscum ideology hinges on gender essentialism which has no basis in science so


No it doesn't. "truscum", a buzzword used by no one other than a minority of idiots like globbers and 3DPD hinges on established key concepts like gender dysphoria and the brain. "Tucute" ideology hinges on being delusional, made up, and deviant. Like, the people who literally invented those concepts are tumblr users, one called "idislikecispeople" and have zero grounds in reality/science. They have as much relevancy as people who marry fictional characters. They trivialize the trans community who aren't delusional and make them seem like jokes

the idea that gender dysphoria is central in the trans experience is gender essentialism which again has no basis in science so


No it isn't. Gender essentialism is the belief that gender stereotypes hold true for all men/women. Gender dysphoria is the conflict you feel between your physical sex and your gender. They're not at all related.
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snovvlybub
07/16/17 4:39:58 PM
#70:


GiftedACIII posted...
snovvlybub posted...
GiftedACIII posted...
snovvlybub posted...
GiftedACIII posted...
snovvlybub posted...
truscum

You mean, the scientific aspect and not "however I feel like it"? "Truscum" is the default of the trans community and the idea that you can change genders like clothing/be agender goes into delusional territory like the people who marry fictional characters

truscum ideology hinges on gender essentialism which has no basis in science so


No it doesn't. "truscum", a buzzword used by no one other than a minority of idiots like globbers and 3DPD hinges on established key concepts like gender dysphoria and the brain. "Tucute" ideology hinges on being delusional, made up, and deviant. Like, the people who literally invented those concepts are tumblr users, one called "idislikecispeople" and have zero grounds in reality/science. They have as much relevancy as people who marry fictional characters. They trivialize the trans community who aren't delusional and make them seem like jokes

the idea that gender dysphoria is central in the trans experience is gender essentialism which again has no basis in science so


No it isn't. Gender essentialism is the belief that gender stereotypes hold true for all men/women. Gender dysphoria is the conflict you feel between your physical sex and your gender. They're not at all related.

gender essentialism is necessitating a trait or phenotype as inherently tied to a gender, which is what causes dysphoria
read up on ur zhou pls
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NinjaWarrior455
07/16/17 4:49:02 PM
#71:


Can't even say I'm surprised by the results or this topic.
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Fam_Fam
07/16/17 4:50:22 PM
#72:


the results are both sad and amusing to me
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GiftedACIII
07/16/17 4:53:35 PM
#73:


snovvlybub posted...
GiftedACIII posted...
snovvlybub posted...
GiftedACIII posted...
snovvlybub posted...
GiftedACIII posted...
snovvlybub posted...
truscum

You mean, the scientific aspect and not "however I feel like it"? "Truscum" is the default of the trans community and the idea that you can change genders like clothing/be agender goes into delusional territory like the people who marry fictional characters

truscum ideology hinges on gender essentialism which has no basis in science so


No it doesn't. "truscum", a buzzword used by no one other than a minority of idiots like globbers and 3DPD hinges on established key concepts like gender dysphoria and the brain. "Tucute" ideology hinges on being delusional, made up, and deviant. Like, the people who literally invented those concepts are tumblr users, one called "idislikecispeople" and have zero grounds in reality/science. They have as much relevancy as people who marry fictional characters. They trivialize the trans community who aren't delusional and make them seem like jokes

the idea that gender dysphoria is central in the trans experience is gender essentialism which again has no basis in science so


No it isn't. Gender essentialism is the belief that gender stereotypes hold true for all men/women. Gender dysphoria is the conflict you feel between your physical sex and your gender. They're not at all related.

gender essentialism is necessitating a trait or phenotype as inherently tied to a gender, which is what causes dysphoria
read up on ur zhou pls


Thats exactly why dysphoria has nothing to do with gender essentialism. Dysphoria is the conflict between your gender and your sex, nothing to do with your traits inherently being tied to a gender. You can be an extremely feminine biological girl and still feel dysphoria and vice versa.
Or are you trying to say something else entirely, stuff that is full anti-reality like even sex being a social construct or that sex has zero links with gender meaning you can identify as the gender of apache helicopter?
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ThyCorndog
07/16/17 4:54:08 PM
#74:


53% of CE uses the hard r
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NonDairyMiltank
07/16/17 5:17:27 PM
#75:


CE showing its true colours once again.

"I'd rather be an actual bigot than an annoying smug person who can also be a bigot."

like it or not, "SJW" has negative connotations now too
because crybaby radicals keep trying to use established social movements for their own divisive agendas

if you still think only racists, sexist, and bigots use the term as a pejorative for justice advocates, you're cluelessly out of date and INTENTIONALLY refusing to acknowledge any other popularized meanings of the term that have developed, the usage of terms evolve with pop culture, get over it

there's moderates who now also use the term on social media to label hypocritical extremists who only claim to be justice advocates when they're just a different brand of bigot...


there are freakin feminists who use the term now too out of convenience because we're also getting fuckin fed up with crazy ass radicals making our movements look ridiculous on media and handing the opposition even MORE fuel to burn us back

stop telling me they don't fuckin exist when i as an active feminist and lgbt advocate have to deal with at least a couple of these radicalized nutjobs at every event we host, stop it
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HippopotamusRex
07/16/17 5:28:40 PM
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Love the results. It's a microcosm of the real world, and radicals don't realize it yet.

When you divide the world into 'you are either with me or you are a pos racist bigot' most people aren't racist. And the more you prod and poke them about it, the more they'll just throw their hands up and say 'well I guess I'm racist then as long as I'm not on your side'.

So now you have both the very limited actual racists in the world, and the people who would rather be called racist but aren't because they see how insufferable the radicals doing the sjw game are, slowly like passively avoiding a bad smell starting to congeal on the side of the "I'm sure as hell not with you" label. Whatever that is going to be. Whether it's racist, whether it's Hitler's second cousin, whatever you want to name that label.
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Mal_Fet
07/16/17 5:33:31 PM
#78:


Conflict posted...
Lol literally people defending racists itt. But then again, where am I?

No one's defending racism. Only the idea that racists are worse than SJWs.
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Dustin1280
07/16/17 5:34:13 PM
#79:


MakoReizei posted...
trick question. both are racist.

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Zeus
07/16/17 5:43:09 PM
#80:


Overlooking that SJWs are highly racist in addition to a slew of other negatives, it seems like only being racist is an improvement.
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Mist_Turnips
07/16/17 5:46:31 PM
#81:


Dustin1280 posted...
MakoReizei posted...
trick question. both are racist.

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jimbiz
07/16/17 5:53:18 PM
#82:


ITT: CEmen would rather be racist than discuss social issues that affects people

Not surprised
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Mal_Fet
07/16/17 5:56:05 PM
#83:


jimbiz posted...
ITT: CEmen would rather be racist than discuss social issues that affects people

Social issues like manspreading, defending teachers who call for mob justice against cameramen, and supporting racial segregation!
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Trigg3rH4ppy
07/16/17 5:56:14 PM
#84:


Ving_Rhames posted...
Just ce things

Good thing none of you will ever reproduce

lol, dat projection.
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Malcolm_Caradoc
07/16/17 6:44:29 PM
#85:


The neckbeard levels are high on this board
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NeonOctopus
07/16/17 6:46:46 PM
#86:


Gorbachev posted...
MakoReizei posted...
trick question. both are racist.

Ayyyyyyy

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ultimate reaver
07/16/17 6:48:13 PM
#87:


jimbiz posted...
ITT: CEmen would rather be racist than discuss social issues that affects people

Not surprised

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pinky0926
07/16/17 6:49:24 PM
#88:


NonDairyMiltank posted...
CE showing its true colours once again.

"I'd rather be an actual bigot than an annoying smug person who can also be a bigot."

like it or not, "SJW" has negative connotations now too
because crybaby radicals keep trying to use established social movements for their own divisive agendas

if you still think only racists, sexist, and bigots use the term as a pejorative for justice advocates, you're cluelessly out of date and INTENTIONALLY refusing to acknowledge any other popularized meanings of the term that have developed, the usage of terms evolve with pop culture, get over it

there's moderates who now also use the term on social media to label hypocritical extremists who only claim to be justice advocates when they're just a different brand of bigot...


there are freakin feminists who use the term now too out of convenience because we're also getting fuckin fed up with crazy ass radicals making our movements look ridiculous on media and handing the opposition even MORE fuel to burn us back

stop telling me they don't fuckin exist when i as an active feminist and lgbt advocate have to deal with at least a couple of these radicalized nutjobs at every event we host, stop it


Essentially SJWs can be terrible people, but racists are just always terrible people.

But of course CE is full of edgelords incapable of recognising nuance, altogether fixated on being contrary for its own sake. So like I said, unsurprising poll results
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SSMajinVegeta2
07/16/17 7:11:01 PM
#89:


Mandasnake posted...
DiesMortis posted...
protip being called an sjw generally means

A. you pissed off some rightist

B. you're not an asshole

The good thing is you feel morally superior to other people.



Lol
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thanosibe
07/16/17 9:02:23 PM
#90:


Trigg3rH4ppy posted...
Ving_Rhames posted...
Just ce things

Good thing none of you will ever reproduce

lol, dat projection.
Yeah I'm pretty hopeful the same is of him from the shit posts I've seen of his.
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MachoManSavage
07/16/17 9:06:00 PM
#91:


I don't agree with racism, and SJW in theory is "good".

However, in practise, SJWism is the biggest roadblock in current society. I side with racists over them because only the latter destroys free speech and sponsors social censorship.

SJW and modern feminisn is a threat. I work with people like that and it's very scary. Having to watch what you do or say constantly because someone might be offended. And then claim you're a rapist and ruin your life (I've seen it happen).
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Pastryarchy
07/16/17 10:39:24 PM
#93:


It's just an internet poll.

You don't have to "side" with either clusterfuck.

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TheMikh
07/16/17 10:40:16 PM
#94:


MakoReizei posted...
trick question. both are racist.


the topic should have ended with this post
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RickyTheBAWSE
07/16/17 10:40:43 PM
#95:


broad, sweeping statements everywhere.
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ThanksUglyGod
07/16/17 10:57:26 PM
#96:


Hmm, would I rather people find me annoying for attempting help others or people find me annoying for being an asshole?

Decisions, decisions...
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Re-iNcarnated
07/16/17 11:04:53 PM
#97:


If I have to choose between the two, easily racist.
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Re-iNcarnated
07/16/17 11:05:34 PM
#98:


MachoManSavage posted...
I don't agree with racism, and SJW in theory is "good".

However, in practise, SJWism is the biggest roadblock in current society. I side with racists over them because only the latter destroys free speech and sponsors social censorship.

SJW and modern feminisn is a threat. I work with people like that and it's very scary. Having to watch what you do or say constantly because someone might be offended. And then claim you're a rapist and ruin your life (I've seen it happen).
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thanosibe
07/16/17 11:09:34 PM
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RickyTheBAWSE posted...
broad, sweeping statements everywhere.
Something you do well.
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Lorenzo_2003
07/16/17 11:14:25 PM
#100:


Arcvalons posted...

so·cial jus·tice war·ri·or
noun, informal, derogatory
a person who expresses or promotes socially progressive views.



That is not very representative of how current SJW's act, let alone how they are viewed by reasonable people in general. It makes no mention of how SJW's are a caricature of activists. They're somewhere between laughingstock and pariah at this point.
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