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Vindris_SNH 07/20/17 1:55:02 PM #451:	Zeeak4444 posted... most people don't terminate human babies for convenience The fact that it ever happened once is appalling. --- glitteringfairy: Just build the damn wall ThyCorndog: and how exactly will that stop the mexican space program from orbital dropping illegal immigrants? <cite>Vindris_SNH posted [p:883273849] in Why isnt a... [t:75567333]...</cite> <quote><cite>Zeeak4444 posted...</cite> <quote>most people don't terminate human babies for convenience</quote> The fact that it ever happened once is appalling.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zeeak4444 07/20/17 1:55:37 PM #452:	Vindris_SNH posted... hockeybub89 posted... Remember: Vindris was done with trying to talk to us evil baby killers. Changed my mind. hockeybub89 posted... Also remember: He made arguments that aren't emotional and are in no way inspired by his religious nature. If he was never exposed to religion, he knows he would have the same beliefs. Yes I did make arguments that aren't emotional. And some of my arguments may be looked at as emotional appeals, and that's fine. There's nothing wrong with seeing something you think is sad, and trying to do something about it. I don't know how anything I've said could've possibly been said for selfish reasons. I have nothing to gain here aside from opening the minds of people who think it's OK to kill humans, as long as they aren't old enough or haven't attained "personhood". And as far as what I would've believed had I not been "exposed to religion", I can't say. So that is irrelevant. The point is, I haven't included religion in any of my points. I don't understand why people can't get past that. How can you lack so much self-awareness. It's baffling. --- Typical gameFAQers are "Complainers that always complain about those who complain about real legitimate complaints."-Joker_X <cite>Zeeak4444 posted [p:883273888] in Why isnt a... [t:75567333]...</cite> <quote><cite>Vindris_SNH posted...</cite> <quote><cite>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote>Remember: Vindris was done with trying to talk to us evil baby killers.</quote> Changed my mind. <cite>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote>Also remember: He made arguments that aren't emotional and are in no way inspired by his religious nature. If he was never exposed to religion, he knows he would have the same beliefs.</quote> Yes I did make arguments that aren't emotional. And some of my arguments may be looked at as emotional appeals, and that's fine. There's nothing wrong with seeing something you think is sad, and trying to do something about it. I don't know how anything I've said could've possibly been said for selfish reasons. I have nothing to gain here aside from opening the minds of people who think it's OK to kill humans, as long as they aren't old enough or haven't attained "personhood". And as far as what I would've believed had I not been "exposed to religion", I can't say. So that is irrelevant. The point is, I haven't included religion in any of my points. I don't understand why people can't get past that.</quote> How can you lack so much self-awareness. It's baffling.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zeeak4444 07/20/17 1:56:15 PM #453:	Vindris_SNH posted... Zeeak4444 posted... most people don't terminate human babies for convenience The fact that it ever happened once is appalling. Okay, and? Should we stop everything that's been abused? We wouldn't be left with much lol. --- Typical gameFAQers are "Complainers that always complain about those who complain about real legitimate complaints."-Joker_X <cite>Zeeak4444 posted [p:883273938] in Why isnt a... [t:75567333]...</cite> <quote><cite>Vindris_SNH posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Zeeak4444 posted...</cite> <quote>most people don't terminate human babies for convenience</quote> The fact that it ever happened once is appalling.</quote> Okay, and? Should we stop everything that's been abused? We wouldn't be left with much lol.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Vindris_SNH 07/20/17 1:56:28 PM #454:	hockeybub89 posted... So should people be forced to save their family members? Save them, how? --- glitteringfairy: Just build the damn wall ThyCorndog: and how exactly will that stop the mexican space program from orbital dropping illegal immigrants? <cite>Vindris_SNH posted [p:883273953] in Why isnt a... [t:75567333]...</cite> <quote><cite>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote>So should people be forced to save their family members?</quote> Save them, how?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TrevorBlack79 07/20/17 1:56:42 PM #455:	Vindris_SNH posted... TrevorBlack79 posted... Why do you feel a fetus deserves superior rights to all others? Why do you feel a mother is responsible for taking care of her newborn? Because she willingly chooses to. If she did not wish to care for her newborn, she would give it up for adoption or abort it before the birth. Your turn. Answer the question. --- "a minority is someone who you can tell off the bat they are black/hispanic/colored. LGBT isn't a minority" - Blakkheim1 <cite>TrevorBlack79 posted [p:883273967] in Why isnt a... [t:75567333]...</cite> <quote><cite>Vindris_SNH posted...</cite> <quote><cite>TrevorBlack79 posted...</cite> <quote>Why do you feel a fetus deserves superior rights to all others?</quote> Why do you feel a mother is responsible for taking care of her newborn?</quote> Because she willingly chooses to. If she did not wish to care for her newborn, she would give it up for adoption or abort it before the birth. Your turn. Answer the question.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 07/20/17 1:58:39 PM #456:	Vindris_SNH posted... And as far as what I would've believed had I not been "exposed to religion", I can't say. So that is irrelevant. The point is, I haven't included religion in any of my points. I don't understand why people can't get past that. Because "life is precious" is not an argument for forcing women to develop a life for 9 months because they had sex and then either force them to raise it against their will or toss it into an orphanage. A fetus is no more a person than a sperm, egg, or severed limb. Yeah, it will one day become a fully formed human being with thoughts and emotions and all that lovely jazz, but it isn't there yet. You're ending potential, typically because you are not in a position to raise a child. How is that not responsible and ethical? One could argue tangible reasons why murder or rape is wrong. Anti-abortion arguments are "I feel and my feeling can never be convinced otherwise" --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:883274088] in Why isnt a... [t:75567333]...</cite> <quote><cite>Vindris_SNH posted...</cite> <quote>And as far as what I would've believed had I not been "exposed to religion", I can't say. So that is irrelevant. The point is, I haven't included religion in any of my points. I don't understand why people can't get past that. </quote> Because "life is precious" is not an argument for forcing women to develop a life for 9 months because they had sex and then either force them to raise it against their will or toss it into an orphanage. A fetus is no more a person than a sperm, egg, or severed limb. Yeah, it will one day become a fully formed human being with thoughts and emotions and all that lovely jazz, but it isn't there yet. You're ending potential, typically because you are not in a position to raise a child. How is that not responsible and ethical? One could argue tangible reasons why murder or rape is wrong. Anti-abortion arguments are "I feel and my feeling can never be convinced otherwise"</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
That_Happened 07/20/17 1:59:46 PM #457:	Vindris_SNH posted... I don't know how anything I've said could've possibly been said for selfish reasons. Expectant mother says, "I can't afford this baby. We took every precaution to avoid pregnancy, and abstinence is unrealistic because sex is a normal part of a healthy relationship. I'm not ready to be a mother." Vindris says, "You should be forced to carry the baby to term, incur the expense, raise it, love it and care for it (and I will do nothing to help you, nor do I care about you, and worst of all it's none of my fucking business in the first place). And you should do all this because of my personal moral code, which is my version of God's moral code but I'll pretend that's not influencing me in any way." "Also I don't understand how this is selfish." --- http://fusionanomaly.net/magnoliabutitdidhappen.jpg <cite>That_Happened posted [p:883274145] in Why isnt a... [t:75567333]...</cite> <quote><cite>Vindris_SNH posted...</cite> <quote>I don't know how anything I've said could've possibly been said for selfish reasons.</quote> Expectant mother says, "I can't afford this baby. We took every precaution to avoid pregnancy, and abstinence is unrealistic because sex is a normal part of a healthy relationship. I'm not ready to be a mother." Vindris says, "You should be forced to carry the baby to term, incur the expense, raise it, love it and care for it (and I will do nothing to help you, nor do I care about you, and worst of all it's none of my fucking business in the first place). And you should do all this because of my personal moral code, which is my version of God's moral code but I'll pretend that's not influencing me in any way." "Also I don't understand how this is selfish."</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zeeak4444 07/20/17 2:00:51 PM #458:	That_Happened posted... Vindris_SNH posted... I don't know how anything I've said could've possibly been said for selfish reasons. Expectant mother says, "I can't afford this baby. We took every precaution to avoid pregnancy. I'm not ready to be a mother." Vindris says, "You should be forced to carry the baby to term, incur the expense, raise it, love it as care for it (and I will do nothing to help you, nor do I care about you, and worst of all it's none of my fucking business in the first place). And you should do all this because of my personal moral code, which is my version of God's moral code but I'll pretend that's not influencing me in any way." "Also I don't understand how this is selfish." Fucking rekt lol --- Typical gameFAQers are "Complainers that always complain about those who complain about real legitimate complaints."-Joker_X <cite>Zeeak4444 posted [p:883274234] in Why isnt a... [t:75567333]...</cite> <quote><cite>That_Happened posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Vindris_SNH posted...</cite> <quote>I don't know how anything I've said could've possibly been said for selfish reasons.</quote> Expectant mother says, "I can't afford this baby. We took every precaution to avoid pregnancy. I'm not ready to be a mother." Vindris says, "You should be forced to carry the baby to term, incur the expense, raise it, love it as care for it (and I will do nothing to help you, nor do I care about you, and worst of all it's none of my fucking business in the first place). And you should do all this because of my personal moral code, which is my version of God's moral code but I'll pretend that's not influencing me in any way." "Also I don't understand how this is selfish."</quote> Fucking rekt lol</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Vindris_SNH 07/20/17 2:02:33 PM #459:	Zeeak4444 posted... How can you lack so much self-awareness. It's baffling. k Zeeak4444 posted... Okay, and? Should we stop everything that's been abused? We wouldn't be left with much lol. You could start with reform on abortion laws. Here's an idea for a step in the right direction: Make abortions legal only for cases of rape, incest, birth defects, and in cases where the parents lack the ability to care for the child. Maybe a few other exceptions if you can think of good ones. Wouldn't be too difficult to make a law that pretty much ruled out all abortions that were simply for convenience. Again, that wouldn't be my preference, or my ideal world, but it'd be a step in the right direction, and we'd save a lot of human lives. --- glitteringfairy: Just build the damn wall ThyCorndog: and how exactly will that stop the mexican space program from orbital dropping illegal immigrants? <cite>Vindris_SNH posted [p:883274354] in Why isnt a... [t:75567333]...</cite> <quote><cite>Zeeak4444 posted...</cite> <quote> How can you lack so much self-awareness. It's baffling.</quote> k <cite>Zeeak4444 posted...</cite> <quote>Okay, and? Should we stop everything that's been abused? We wouldn't be left with much lol.</quote> You could start with reform on abortion laws. Here's an idea for a step in the right direction: Make abortions legal only for cases of rape, incest, birth defects, and in cases where the parents lack the ability to care for the child. Maybe a few other exceptions if you can think of good ones. Wouldn't be too difficult to make a law that pretty much ruled out all abortions that were simply for convenience. Again, that wouldn't be my preference, or my ideal world, but it'd be a step in the right direction, and we'd save a lot of human lives.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 07/20/17 2:02:57 PM #460:	Vindris_SNH posted... hockeybub89 posted... So should people be forced to save their family members? Save them, how? They are dying beyond their control and a family member's body can save them in some way. Should they be forced to help them? And should they not be able to revoke consent? --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:883274383] in Why isnt a... [t:75567333]...</cite> <quote><cite>Vindris_SNH posted...</cite> <quote><cite>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote>So should people be forced to save their family members?</quote> Save them, how?</quote> They are dying beyond their control and a family member's body can save them in some way. Should they be forced to help them? And should they not be able to revoke consent?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Vindris_SNH 07/20/17 2:03:24 PM #461:	hockeybub89 posted... Because "life is precious" is not an argument for forcing women to develop a life for 9 months Haven't once said "life is precious". --- glitteringfairy: Just build the damn wall ThyCorndog: and how exactly will that stop the mexican space program from orbital dropping illegal immigrants? <cite>Vindris_SNH posted [p:883274409] in Why isnt a... [t:75567333]...</cite> <quote><cite>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote>Because "life is precious" is not an argument for forcing women to develop a life for 9 months </quote> Haven't once said "life is precious".</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Vindris_SNH 07/20/17 2:04:36 PM #462:	TrevorBlack79 posted... Vindris_SNH posted... TrevorBlack79 posted... Why do you feel a fetus deserves superior rights to all others? Why do you feel a mother is responsible for taking care of her newborn? Because she willingly chooses to. If she did not wish to care for her newborn, she would give it up for adoption or abort it before the birth. Your turn. Answer the question. I never said a fetus deserves superior rights. Do you think it would be irresponsible or immoral for a mother to throw her baby out a second story window? --- glitteringfairy: Just build the damn wall ThyCorndog: and how exactly will that stop the mexican space program from orbital dropping illegal immigrants? <cite>Vindris_SNH posted [p:883274480] in Why isnt a... [t:75567333]...</cite> <quote><cite>TrevorBlack79 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Vindris_SNH posted...</cite> <quote><cite>TrevorBlack79 posted...</cite> <quote>Why do you feel a fetus deserves superior rights to all others?</quote> Why do you feel a mother is responsible for taking care of her newborn?</quote> Because she willingly chooses to. If she did not wish to care for her newborn, she would give it up for adoption or abort it before the birth. Your turn. Answer the question.</quote> I never said a fetus deserves superior rights. Do you think it would be irresponsible or immoral for a mother to throw her baby out a second story window?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 07/20/17 2:05:12 PM #463:	Vindris_SNH posted... Here's an idea for a step in the right direction: Make abortions legal only for cases of rape, incest, birth defects, and in cases where the parents lack the ability to care for the child. Maybe a few other exceptions if you can think of good ones. Wouldn't be too difficult to make a law that pretty much ruled out all abortions that were simply for convenience. So make an exception for most abortions. And how do you differentiate inability to raise from not wanting to raise? Also, what happened to innocent life being precious and abortion being evil murder? --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:883274520] in Why isnt a... [t:75567333]...</cite> <quote><cite>Vindris_SNH posted...</cite> <quote>Here's an idea for a step in the right direction: Make abortions legal only for cases of rape, incest, birth defects, and in cases where the parents lack the ability to care for the child. Maybe a few other exceptions if you can think of good ones. Wouldn't be too difficult to make a law that pretty much ruled out all abortions that were simply for convenience.</quote> So make an exception for most abortions. And how do you differentiate inability to raise from not wanting to raise? Also, what happened to innocent life being precious and abortion being evil murder?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ImTheMacheteGuy 07/20/17 2:06:03 PM #464:	Vindris_SNH posted... Asherlee10 posted... Thank you! I missed that. That being the case, I have further questions: - If personhood starts at conception, then do twins have half the rights as non-twins? - Is birth control a murder weapon? - Is Plan B a murder weapon? - Should miscarriages have funerals? I never said personhood starts at conception. My point is that an ambiguous philosophical idea shouldn't determine the value of a human life. Let's say that we could even scientifically and clearly identify what personhood means and when it occurs. Let's define personhood as, "The ability for a human to feel emotion". And let's say it happens at 3 months of pregnancy. I know this probably isn't accurate at all, but for the sake of the point I'm trying to make, just go with it. So here we have personhood, which occurs at around 3 months into gestation most humans. Personhood is a quality that a human being attains as they grow in their mother's womb. And let's say you abortion lovers want a legal right to kill that human while it is in the womb, as long as it hasn't attained personhood yet. So... Why have we decided that a human being doesn't deserve the legal right to life just because he or she hasn't attained this specific quality yet? Why would we have decided otherwise? --- Place-holder sig because new phone and old sigs not saved :/ <cite>ImTheMacheteGuy posted [p:883274570] in Why isnt a... [t:75567333]...</cite> <quote><cite>Vindris_SNH posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Asherlee10 posted...</cite> <quote>Thank you! I missed that. That being the case, I have further questions: - If personhood starts at conception, then do twins have half the rights as non-twins? - Is birth control a murder weapon? - Is Plan B a murder weapon? - Should miscarriages have funerals?</quote> I never said personhood starts at conception. My point is that an ambiguous philosophical idea shouldn't determine the value of a human life. Let's say that we could even scientifically and clearly identify what personhood means and when it occurs. Let's define personhood as, "The ability for a human to feel emotion". And let's say it happens at 3 months of pregnancy. I know this probably isn't accurate at all, but for the sake of the point I'm trying to make, just go with it. So here we have personhood, which occurs at around 3 months into gestation most humans. Personhood is a quality that a human being attains as they grow in their mother's womb. And let's say you abortion lovers want a legal right to kill that human while it is in the womb, as long as it hasn't attained personhood yet. So... Why have we decided that a human being doesn't deserve the legal right to life just because he or she hasn't attained this specific quality yet?</quote> Why would we have decided otherwise?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 07/20/17 2:07:22 PM #465:	Vindris_SNH posted... hockeybub89 posted... Because "life is precious" is not an argument for forcing women to develop a life for 9 months Haven't once said "life is precious". Not in those exact words, but yes you have. Your whole argument is we shouldn't kill innocent life. --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:883274657] in Why isnt a... [t:75567333]...</cite> <quote><cite>Vindris_SNH posted...</cite> <quote><cite>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote>Because "life is precious" is not an argument for forcing women to develop a life for 9 months </quote> Haven't once said "life is precious".</quote> Not in those exact words, but yes you have. Your whole argument is we shouldn't kill innocent life.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ImTheMacheteGuy 07/20/17 2:07:26 PM #466:	Vindris_SNH posted... TrevorBlack79 posted... Vindris_SNH posted... TrevorBlack79 posted... Why do you feel a fetus deserves superior rights to all others? Why do you feel a mother is responsible for taking care of her newborn? Because she willingly chooses to. If she did not wish to care for her newborn, she would give it up for adoption or abort it before the birth. Your turn. Answer the question. I never said a fetus deserves superior rights. Do you think it would be irresponsible or immoral for a mother to throw her baby out a second story window? THIS. IS. SPARTA!!! --- Place-holder sig because new phone and old sigs not saved :/ <cite>ImTheMacheteGuy posted [p:883274664] in Why isnt a... [t:75567333]...</cite> <quote><cite>Vindris_SNH posted...</cite> <quote><cite>TrevorBlack79 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Vindris_SNH posted...</cite> <quote><cite>TrevorBlack79 posted...</cite> <quote>Why do you feel a fetus deserves superior rights to all others?</quote> Why do you feel a mother is responsible for taking care of her newborn?</quote> Because she willingly chooses to. If she did not wish to care for her newborn, she would give it up for adoption or abort it before the birth. Your turn. Answer the question.</quote> I never said a fetus deserves superior rights. Do you think it would be irresponsible or immoral for a mother to throw her baby out a second story window?</quote> THIS. IS. SPARTA!!!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Vindris_SNH 07/20/17 2:08:38 PM #467:	That_Happened posted... Vindris says, "You should be forced to carry the baby to term, incur the expense, raise it, love it and care for it (and I will do nothing to help you, nor do I care about you, and worst of all it's none of my fucking business in the first place). And you should do all this because of my personal moral code, which is my version of God's moral code but I'll pretend that's not influencing me in any way." "Also I don't understand how this is selfish." What? So now you're telling people I said things that I didn't? What the fuck is your problem man? I believe in government assistance, and I'm fine with my tax money going to help children born in unfortunate situations. And protecting human life is absolutely my business. --- glitteringfairy: Just build the damn wall ThyCorndog: and how exactly will that stop the mexican space program from orbital dropping illegal immigrants? <cite>Vindris_SNH posted [p:883274737] in Why isnt a... [t:75567333]...</cite> <quote><cite>That_Happened posted...</cite> <quote> Vindris says, "You should be forced to carry the baby to term, incur the expense, raise it, love it and care for it (and I will do nothing to help you, nor do I care about you, and worst of all it's none of my fucking business in the first place). And you should do all this because of my personal moral code, which is my version of God's moral code but I'll pretend that's not influencing me in any way." "Also I don't understand how this is selfish."</quote> What? So now you're telling people I said things that I didn't? What the fuck is your problem man? I believe in government assistance, and I'm fine with my tax money going to help children born in unfortunate situations. And protecting human life is absolutely my business.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zeeak4444 07/20/17 2:08:42 PM #468:	hockeybub89 posted... Vindris_SNH posted... Here's an idea for a step in the right direction: Make abortions legal only for cases of rape, incest, birth defects, and in cases where the parents lack the ability to care for the child. Maybe a few other exceptions if you can think of good ones. Wouldn't be too difficult to make a law that pretty much ruled out all abortions that were simply for convenience. So make a case for most abortions. And how do you differentiate inability to raise from not wanting to raise? Also, what happened to innocent life being precious and abortion being evil murder? Ya, he pretty much revealed everything with that post. In addition, his statements are riddled with fallacies and pathos and he not only doesn't see this, quite the opposite, he believes he's the one being reasonable and logical... --- Typical gameFAQers are "Complainers that always complain about those who complain about real legitimate complaints."-Joker_X <cite>Zeeak4444 posted [p:883274745] in Why isnt a... [t:75567333]...</cite> <quote><cite>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Vindris_SNH posted...</cite> <quote>Here's an idea for a step in the right direction: Make abortions legal only for cases of rape, incest, birth defects, and in cases where the parents lack the ability to care for the child. Maybe a few other exceptions if you can think of good ones. Wouldn't be too difficult to make a law that pretty much ruled out all abortions that were simply for convenience.</quote> So make a case for most abortions. And how do you differentiate inability to raise from not wanting to raise? Also, what happened to innocent life being precious and abortion being evil murder?</quote> Ya, he pretty much revealed everything with that post. In addition, his statements are riddled with fallacies and pathos and he not only doesn't see this, quite the opposite, he believes he's the one being reasonable and logical...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GiftedACIII 07/20/17 2:10:27 PM #469:	And Haldol is warned. Wonder if this guy is gonna pretend this never happened either. --- </topic> <cite>GiftedACIII posted [p:883274831] in Why isnt a... [t:75567333]...</cite> <quote>And Haldol is warned. Wonder if this guy is gonna pretend this never happened either.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Vindris_SNH 07/20/17 2:12:06 PM #470:	ImTheMacheteGuy posted... Why would we have decided otherwise? Because of an instinct to protect our own kin. hockeybub89 posted... Not in those exact words, but yes you have. Your whole argument is we shouldn't kill innocent life. No, I haven't. My whole argument is that a human life, no matter what stage of development it is in, should be given a right to life. --- glitteringfairy: Just build the damn wall ThyCorndog: and how exactly will that stop the mexican space program from orbital dropping illegal immigrants? <cite>Vindris_SNH posted [p:883274944] in Why isnt a... [t:75567333]...</cite> <quote><cite>ImTheMacheteGuy posted...</cite> <quote>Why would we have decided otherwise?</quote> Because of an instinct to protect our own kin. <cite>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote>Not in those exact words, but yes you have. Your whole argument is we shouldn't kill innocent life.</quote> No, I haven't. My whole argument is that a human life, no matter what stage of development it is in, should be given a right to life.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zeeak4444 07/20/17 2:13:23 PM #471:	Vindris_SNH posted... ImTheMacheteGuy posted... Why would we have decided otherwise? Because of an instinct to protect our own kin. hockeybub89 posted... Not in those exact words, but yes you have. Your whole argument is we shouldn't kill innocent life. No, I haven't. My whole argument is that a human life, no matter what stage of development it is in, should be given a right to life. You just restated what he said. What the fuck, how is this going over your head. --- Typical gameFAQers are "Complainers that always complain about those who complain about real legitimate complaints."-Joker_X <cite>Zeeak4444 posted [p:883275006] in Why isnt a... [t:75567333]...</cite> <quote><cite>Vindris_SNH posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ImTheMacheteGuy posted...</cite> <quote>Why would we have decided otherwise?</quote> Because of an instinct to protect our own kin. <cite>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote>Not in those exact words, but yes you have. Your whole argument is we shouldn't kill innocent life.</quote> No, I haven't. My whole argument is that a human life, no matter what stage of development it is in, should be given a right to life.</quote> You just restated what he said. What the fuck, how is this going over your head.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ImTheMacheteGuy 07/20/17 2:13:46 PM #472:	Vindris_SNH posted... That_Happened posted... Vindris says, "You should be forced to carry the baby to term, incur the expense, raise it, love it and care for it (and I will do nothing to help you, nor do I care about you, and worst of all it's none of my fucking business in the first place). And you should do all this because of my personal moral code, which is my version of God's moral code but I'll pretend that's not influencing me in any way." "Also I don't understand how this is selfish." What? So now you're telling people I said things that I didn't? What the fuck is your problem man? I believe in government assistance, and I'm fine with my tax money going to help children born in unfortunate situations. And protecting human life is absolutely my business. How is it your business? --- Place-holder sig because new phone and old sigs not saved :/ <cite>ImTheMacheteGuy posted [p:883275025] in Why isnt a... [t:75567333]...</cite> <quote><cite>Vindris_SNH posted...</cite> <quote><cite>That_Happened posted...</cite> <quote> Vindris says, "You should be forced to carry the baby to term, incur the expense, raise it, love it and care for it (and I will do nothing to help you, nor do I care about you, and worst of all it's none of my fucking business in the first place). And you should do all this because of my personal moral code, which is my version of God's moral code but I'll pretend that's not influencing me in any way." "Also I don't understand how this is selfish."</quote> What? So now you're telling people I said things that I didn't? What the fuck is your problem man? I believe in government assistance, and I'm fine with my tax money going to help children born in unfortunate situations. And protecting human life is absolutely my business.</quote> How is it your business?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Vindris_SNH 07/20/17 2:14:57 PM #473:	hockeybub89 posted... Vindris_SNH posted... Here's an idea for a step in the right direction: Make abortions legal only for cases of rape, incest, birth defects, and in cases where the parents lack the ability to care for the child. Maybe a few other exceptions if you can think of good ones. Wouldn't be too difficult to make a law that pretty much ruled out all abortions that were simply for convenience. So make an exception for most abortions. And how do you differentiate inability to raise from not wanting to raise? Also, what happened to innocent life being precious and abortion being evil murder? I think you should check out some statistics for why abortions happen. Probably a lot more "convenience abortions" happening than you think. Differentiating between inability and desire is pretty simple. Look at how much money someone makes, and if they are mentally stable. Never said innocent life is precious, and I never called abortion evil murder. All I'm saying is that, here's an idea that would prevent pointless human deaths from occurring. --- glitteringfairy: Just build the damn wall ThyCorndog: and how exactly will that stop the mexican space program from orbital dropping illegal immigrants? <cite>Vindris_SNH posted [p:883275088] in Why isnt a... [t:75567333]...</cite> <quote><cite>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Vindris_SNH posted...</cite> <quote>Here's an idea for a step in the right direction: Make abortions legal only for cases of rape, incest, birth defects, and in cases where the parents lack the ability to care for the child. Maybe a few other exceptions if you can think of good ones. Wouldn't be too difficult to make a law that pretty much ruled out all abortions that were simply for convenience.</quote> So make an exception for most abortions. And how do you differentiate inability to raise from not wanting to raise? Also, what happened to innocent life being precious and abortion being evil murder?</quote> I think you should check out some statistics for why abortions happen. Probably a lot more "convenience abortions" happening than you think. Differentiating between inability and desire is pretty simple. Look at how much money someone makes, and if they are mentally stable. Never said innocent life is precious, and I never called abortion evil murder. All I'm saying is that, here's an idea that would prevent pointless human deaths from occurring.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zeeak4444 07/20/17 2:16:17 PM #474:	Vindris_SNH posted... hockeybub89 posted... Vindris_SNH posted... Here's an idea for a step in the right direction: Make abortions legal only for cases of rape, incest, birth defects, and in cases where the parents lack the ability to care for the child. Maybe a few other exceptions if you can think of good ones. Wouldn't be too difficult to make a law that pretty much ruled out all abortions that were simply for convenience. So make an exception for most abortions. And how do you differentiate inability to raise from not wanting to raise? Also, what happened to innocent life being precious and abortion being evil murder? I think you should check out some statistics for why abortions happen. Probably a lot more "convenience abortions" happening than you think. Differentiating between inability and desire is pretty simple. Look at how much money someone makes, and if they are mentally stable. Never said innocent life is precious, and I never called abortion evil murder. All I'm saying is that, here's an idea that would prevent pointless human deaths from occurring. Good thing it's super easy to determine someone mental health /s --- Typical gameFAQers are "Complainers that always complain about those who complain about real legitimate complaints."-Joker_X <cite>Zeeak4444 posted [p:883275164] in Why isnt a... [t:75567333]...</cite> <quote><cite>Vindris_SNH posted...</cite> <quote><cite>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Vindris_SNH posted...</cite> <quote>Here's an idea for a step in the right direction: Make abortions legal only for cases of rape, incest, birth defects, and in cases where the parents lack the ability to care for the child. Maybe a few other exceptions if you can think of good ones. Wouldn't be too difficult to make a law that pretty much ruled out all abortions that were simply for convenience.</quote> So make an exception for most abortions. And how do you differentiate inability to raise from not wanting to raise? Also, what happened to innocent life being precious and abortion being evil murder?</quote> I think you should check out some statistics for why abortions happen. Probably a lot more "convenience abortions" happening than you think. Differentiating between inability and desire is pretty simple. Look at how much money someone makes, and if they are mentally stable. Never said innocent life is precious, and I never called abortion evil murder. All I'm saying is that, here's an idea that would prevent pointless human deaths from occurring.</quote> Good thing it's super easy to determine someone mental health /s</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
That_Happened 07/20/17 2:16:36 PM #475:	Vindris_SNH posted... What? So now you're telling people I said things that I didn't? What the fuck is your problem man? I believe in government assistance, and I'm fine with my tax money going to help children born in unfortunate situations. Even if this is true, conservative Christians (exactly like you) are constantly trying to cut taxes and point fingers at irresponsible young mothers who use too much government assistance. If we went with your plan, over time millions of unwanted babies would end up with very little money, or they'd flood the orphanages which also couldn't handle the expense. That's the major problem with your beliefs: it brings more people into the world but it immediately fucks them over. That's why your point of view is seen as ridiculous and inhumane. "I just wanna give more fetuses a shot at life" is simultaneously idealistic and stupid, because the majority of those fetuses are going to grow into children nobody wants or cares for. --- http://fusionanomaly.net/magnoliabutitdidhappen.jpg <cite>That_Happened posted [p:883275184] in Why isnt a... [t:75567333]...</cite> <quote><cite>Vindris_SNH posted...</cite> <quote>What? So now you're telling people I said things that I didn't? What the fuck is your problem man? I believe in government assistance, and I'm fine with my tax money going to help children born in unfortunate situations.</quote> Even if this is true, conservative Christians (exactly like you) are constantly trying to cut taxes and point fingers at irresponsible young mothers who use too much government assistance. If we went with your plan, over time millions of unwanted babies would end up with very little money, or they'd flood the orphanages which also couldn't handle the expense. That's the major problem with your beliefs: it brings more people into the world but it immediately fucks them over. That's why your point of view is seen as ridiculous and inhumane. "I just wanna give more fetuses a shot at life" is simultaneously idealistic and stupid, because the majority of those fetuses are going to grow into children nobody wants or cares for.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ImTheMacheteGuy 07/20/17 2:17:00 PM #476:	Vindris_SNH posted... ImTheMacheteGuy posted... Why would we have decided otherwise? Because of an instinct to protect our own kin. hockeybub89 posted... Not in those exact words, but yes you have. Your whole argument is we shouldn't kill innocent life. No, I haven't. My whole argument is that a human life, no matter what stage of development it is in, should be given a right to life. If everyone had that instinct and it was that strong, why would abortion even be a thing? Literally no one would believe it was okay. "I think this way because we all have this instinct" but then why doesn't everyone think the way you think? --- Place-holder sig because new phone and old sigs not saved :/ <cite>ImTheMacheteGuy posted [p:883275208] in Why isnt a... [t:75567333]...</cite> <quote><cite>Vindris_SNH posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ImTheMacheteGuy posted...</cite> <quote>Why would we have decided otherwise?</quote> Because of an instinct to protect our own kin. <cite>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote>Not in those exact words, but yes you have. Your whole argument is we shouldn't kill innocent life.</quote> No, I haven't. My whole argument is that a human life, no matter what stage of development it is in, should be given a right to life.</quote> If everyone had that instinct and it was that strong, why would abortion even be a thing? Literally no one would believe it was okay. "I think this way because we all have this instinct" but then why doesn't everyone think the way you think?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Vindris_SNH 07/20/17 2:17:19 PM #477:	Zeeak4444 posted... You just restated what he said. What the fuck, how is this going over your head. No I didn't. Your reading comprehension is off, little guy. ImTheMacheteGuy posted... How is it your business? Why do people help strangers in need? It's none of their fucking business. --- glitteringfairy: Just build the damn wall ThyCorndog: and how exactly will that stop the mexican space program from orbital dropping illegal immigrants? <cite>Vindris_SNH posted [p:883275219] in Why isnt a... [t:75567333]...</cite> <quote><cite>Zeeak4444 posted...</cite> <quote>You just restated what he said. What the fuck, how is this going over your head.</quote> No I didn't. Your reading comprehension is off, little guy. <cite>ImTheMacheteGuy posted...</cite> <quote>How is it your business?</quote> Why do people help strangers in need? It's none of their fucking business.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TrevorBlack79 07/20/17 2:18:18 PM #478:	Vindris_SNH posted... I never said a fetus deserves superior rights. TrevorBlack79 posted... Which part of "security of person" are you having difficulty with? No person has the right to demand access to another person's body, ever, for any reason, regardless of the circumstances or consequences. This is a principle applied consistently within our culture and law. Why do you believe a fetus should hold special rights in contradiction to this principle? If you are arguing that abortion should not be legal, you are indisputably arguing that the fetus has superior rights to the mother. Are you saying you do not feel abortion should be outlawed? --- "a minority is someone who you can tell off the bat they are black/hispanic/colored. LGBT isn't a minority" - Blakkheim1 <cite>TrevorBlack79 posted [p:883275281] in Why isnt a... [t:75567333]...</cite> <quote><cite>Vindris_SNH posted...</cite> <quote>I never said a fetus deserves superior rights.</quote> <cite>TrevorBlack79 posted...</cite> <quote>Which part of "security of person" are you having difficulty with? No person has the right to demand access to another person's body, ever, for any reason, regardless of the circumstances or consequences. This is a principle applied consistently within our culture and law. Why do you believe a fetus should hold special rights in contradiction to this principle?</quote> If you are arguing that abortion should not be legal, you are indisputably arguing that the fetus has superior rights to the mother. Are you saying you do not feel abortion should be outlawed?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Vindris_SNH 07/20/17 2:19:19 PM #479:	That_Happened posted... Even if this is true, conservative Christians (exactly like you) are constantly trying to cut taxes and point fingers at irresponsible young mothers who use too much government assistance. Then go bitch at the people doing that. Stop putting words into my mouth. --- glitteringfairy: Just build the damn wall ThyCorndog: and how exactly will that stop the mexican space program from orbital dropping illegal immigrants? <cite>Vindris_SNH posted [p:883275350] in Why isnt a... [t:75567333]...</cite> <quote><cite>That_Happened posted...</cite> <quote>Even if this is true, conservative Christians (exactly like you) are constantly trying to cut taxes and point fingers at irresponsible young mothers who use too much government assistance.</quote> Then go bitch at the people doing that. Stop putting words into my mouth.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
That_Happened 07/20/17 2:20:11 PM #480:	Vindris_SNH posted... All I'm saying is that, here's an idea that would prevent pointless human deaths from occurring. There's the rub really. You're trying to prevent the termination of unwanted fetuses before they become babies, even though they aren't capable of conscious thought and cannot feel a thing. Meanwhile we're trying to prevent millions more actual thinking, caring, feeling human beings from ending up in poverty, depression and despair. --- http://fusionanomaly.net/magnoliabutitdidhappen.jpg <cite>That_Happened posted [p:883275403] in Why isnt a... [t:75567333]...</cite> <quote><cite>Vindris_SNH posted...</cite> <quote>All I'm saying is that, here's an idea that would prevent pointless human deaths from occurring.</quote> There's the rub really. You're trying to prevent the termination of unwanted fetuses before they become babies, even though they aren't capable of conscious thought and cannot feel a thing. Meanwhile we're trying to prevent millions more actual thinking, caring, feeling human beings from ending up in poverty, depression and despair.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zeeak4444 07/20/17 2:20:12 PM #481:	Vindris_SNH posted... Zeeak4444 posted... You just restated what he said. What the fuck, how is this going over your head. No I didn't. Your reading comprehension is off, little guy. ImTheMacheteGuy posted... How is it your business? Why do people help strangers in need? It's none of their fucking business. "You're argument is you shouldn't kill innocent life" "No my argument is humans at any stage of development deserve to not be killed".. Uh the only difference is you feel the death penalty should be abolished too. My bad, huge difference. --- Typical gameFAQers are "Complainers that always complain about those who complain about real legitimate complaints."-Joker_X <cite>Zeeak4444 posted [p:883275406] in Why isnt a... [t:75567333]...</cite> <quote><cite>Vindris_SNH posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Zeeak4444 posted...</cite> <quote>You just restated what he said. What the fuck, how is this going over your head.</quote> No I didn't. Your reading comprehension is off, little guy. <cite>ImTheMacheteGuy posted...</cite> <quote>How is it your business?</quote> Why do people help strangers in need? It's none of their fucking business.</quote> "You're argument is you shouldn't kill innocent life" "No my argument is humans at any stage of development deserve to not be killed".. Uh the only difference is you feel the death penalty should be abolished too. My bad, huge difference.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
That_Happened 07/20/17 2:21:11 PM #482:	Vindris_SNH posted... Why do people help strangers in need? It's none of their fucking business. You're not helping anyone. A better question would be "why hurt strangers in need?" and that's what we're trying to figure out about you. Because your plan actively hurts mothers, fathers, AND children. --- http://fusionanomaly.net/magnoliabutitdidhappen.jpg <cite>That_Happened posted [p:883275469] in Why isnt a... [t:75567333]...</cite> <quote><cite>Vindris_SNH posted...</cite> <quote>Why do people help strangers in need? It's none of their fucking business.</quote> You're not helping anyone. A better question would be "why hurt strangers in need?" and that's what we're trying to figure out about you. Because your plan actively hurts mothers, fathers, AND children.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Vindris_SNH 07/20/17 2:21:28 PM #483:	That_Happened posted... That's the major problem with your beliefs: it brings more people into the world but it immediately fucks them over. "Well, I just lost my job and my wife died in a plane crash. I have no family or help and I'm forced to live in an alley. My 1 year old son is going to have a shitty life now so I might as well kill him." ^Is there something wrong with this? --- glitteringfairy: Just build the damn wall ThyCorndog: and how exactly will that stop the mexican space program from orbital dropping illegal immigrants? <cite>Vindris_SNH posted [p:883275485] in Why isnt a... [t:75567333]...</cite> <quote><cite>That_Happened posted...</cite> <quote>That's the major problem with your beliefs: it brings more people into the world but it immediately fucks them over.</quote> "Well, I just lost my job and my wife died in a plane crash. I have no family or help and I'm forced to live in an alley. My 1 year old son is going to have a shitty life now so I might as well kill him." ^Is there something wrong with this?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 07/20/17 2:22:15 PM #484:	ImTheMacheteGuy posted... Vindris_SNH posted... ImTheMacheteGuy posted... Why would we have decided otherwise? Because of an instinct to protect our own kin. hockeybub89 posted... Not in those exact words, but yes you have. Your whole argument is we shouldn't kill innocent life. No, I haven't. My whole argument is that a human life, no matter what stage of development it is in, should be given a right to life. If everyone had that instinct and it was that strong, why would abortion even be a thing? Literally no one would believe it was okay. "I think this way because we all have this instinct" but then why doesn't everyone think the way you think? I'm pretty sure he said normal people at one point. So does that make everyone that supports abortion mentally ill? Does that mean they are all unfit and can abort their fetuses? --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:883275529] in Why isnt a... [t:75567333]...</cite> <quote><cite>ImTheMacheteGuy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Vindris_SNH posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ImTheMacheteGuy posted...</cite> <quote>Why would we have decided otherwise?</quote> Because of an instinct to protect our own kin. <cite>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote>Not in those exact words, but yes you have. Your whole argument is we shouldn't kill innocent life.</quote> No, I haven't. My whole argument is that a human life, no matter what stage of development it is in, should be given a right to life.</quote> If everyone had that instinct and it was that strong, why would abortion even be a thing? Literally no one would believe it was okay. "I think this way because we all have this instinct" but then why doesn't everyone think the way you think?</quote> I'm pretty sure he said normal people at one point. So does that make everyone that supports abortion mentally ill? Does that mean they are all unfit and can abort their fetuses?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ImTheMacheteGuy 07/20/17 2:24:44 PM #485:	Vindris_SNH posted... Zeeak4444 posted... You just restated what he said. What the fuck, how is this going over your head. No I didn't. Your reading comprehension is off, little guy. ImTheMacheteGuy posted... How is it your business? Why do people help strangers in need? It's none of their fucking business. Helping a stranger is a choice. Some choose to do so, some choose not to. Every instance is its own choice. Abortion is like that too. A choice. Some choose it, some don't. The stranger also has the right to decline your help. Would you force a stranger to accept your help if they didn't want it? If not, why force a woman to have a kid she doesn't want? --- Place-holder sig because new phone and old sigs not saved :/ <cite>ImTheMacheteGuy posted [p:883275699] in Why isnt a... [t:75567333]...</cite> <quote><cite>Vindris_SNH posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Zeeak4444 posted...</cite> <quote>You just restated what he said. What the fuck, how is this going over your head.</quote> No I didn't. Your reading comprehension is off, little guy. <cite>ImTheMacheteGuy posted...</cite> <quote>How is it your business?</quote> Why do people help strangers in need? It's none of their fucking business.</quote> Helping a stranger is a choice. Some choose to do so, some choose not to. Every instance is its own choice. Abortion is like that too. A choice. Some choose it, some don't. The stranger also has the right to decline your help. Would you force a stranger to accept your help if they didn't want it? If not, why force a woman to have a kid she doesn't want?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
That_Happened 07/20/17 2:25:07 PM #486:	Vindris_SNH posted... That_Happened posted... That's the major problem with your beliefs: it brings more people into the world but it immediately fucks them over. "Well, I just lost my job and my wife died in a plane crash. I have no family or help and I'm forced to live in an alley. My 1 year old son is going to have a shitty life now so I might as well kill him." ^Is there something wrong with this? Yes: the fact that you still can't tell the difference between an egg and a chicken. --- http://fusionanomaly.net/magnoliabutitdidhappen.jpg <cite>That_Happened posted [p:883275721] in Why isnt a... [t:75567333]...</cite> <quote><cite>Vindris_SNH posted...</cite> <quote><cite>That_Happened posted...</cite> <quote>That's the major problem with your beliefs: it brings more people into the world but it immediately fucks them over.</quote> "Well, I just lost my job and my wife died in a plane crash. I have no family or help and I'm forced to live in an alley. My 1 year old son is going to have a shitty life now so I might as well kill him." ^Is there something wrong with this?</quote> Yes: the fact that you still can't tell the difference between an egg and a chicken.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Vindris_SNH 07/20/17 2:25:18 PM #487:	hockeybub89 posted... I'm pretty sure he said normal people at one point. So does that make everyone that supports abortion mentally ill? Does that mean they are all unfit and can abort their fetuses? I don't remember saying that but I wouldn't doubt it. If you're OK with abortion it's because you've been brainwashed by propaganda. That's it. Not mentally ill, and not necessarily your fault. But definitely brainwashed. --- glitteringfairy: Just build the damn wall ThyCorndog: and how exactly will that stop the mexican space program from orbital dropping illegal immigrants? <cite>Vindris_SNH posted [p:883275732] in Why isnt a... [t:75567333]...</cite> <quote><cite>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote>I'm pretty sure he said normal people at one point. So does that make everyone that supports abortion mentally ill? Does that mean they are all unfit and can abort their fetuses?</quote> I don't remember saying that but I wouldn't doubt it. If you're OK with abortion it's because you've been brainwashed by propaganda. That's it. Not mentally ill, and not necessarily your fault. But definitely brainwashed.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zeeak4444 07/20/17 2:25:28 PM #488:	Vindris_SNH posted... That_Happened posted... That's the major problem with your beliefs: it brings more people into the world but it immediately fucks them over. "Well, I just lost my job and my wife died in a plane crash. I have no family or help and I'm forced to live in an alley. My 1 year old son is going to have a shitty life now so I might as well kill him." ^Is there something wrong with this? He said, comfortably, lucky enough to never know the hardships of making a decision of that severity. Easy to mock people who have actually faced that situation when the hardest thing you've faced is a bunch of people on the internet upsetting you because "all life is precious". --- Typical gameFAQers are "Complainers that always complain about those who complain about real legitimate complaints."-Joker_X <cite>Zeeak4444 posted [p:883275742] in Why isnt a... [t:75567333]...</cite> <quote><cite>Vindris_SNH posted...</cite> <quote><cite>That_Happened posted...</cite> <quote>That's the major problem with your beliefs: it brings more people into the world but it immediately fucks them over.</quote> "Well, I just lost my job and my wife died in a plane crash. I have no family or help and I'm forced to live in an alley. My 1 year old son is going to have a shitty life now so I might as well kill him." ^Is there something wrong with this?</quote> He said, comfortably, lucky enough to never know the hardships of making a decision of that severity. Easy to mock people who have actually faced that situation when the hardest thing you've faced is a bunch of people on the internet upsetting you because "all life is precious".</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Vindris_SNH 07/20/17 2:26:11 PM #489:	That_Happened posted... Vindris_SNH posted... That_Happened posted... That's the major problem with your beliefs: it brings more people into the world but it immediately fucks them over. "Well, I just lost my job and my wife died in a plane crash. I have no family or help and I'm forced to live in an alley. My 1 year old son is going to have a shitty life now so I might as well kill him." ^Is there something wrong with this? Yes: the fact that you still can't tell the difference between an egg and a chicken. Maybe you didn't hear. A newly conceived human life is still considered a human life, scientifically. Whether or not a human possesses personhood shouldn't be the determining factor for whether or not it's legal to kill them. --- glitteringfairy: Just build the damn wall ThyCorndog: and how exactly will that stop the mexican space program from orbital dropping illegal immigrants? <cite>Vindris_SNH posted [p:883275782] in Why isnt a... [t:75567333]...</cite> <quote><cite>That_Happened posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Vindris_SNH posted...</cite> <quote><cite>That_Happened posted...</cite> <quote>That's the major problem with your beliefs: it brings more people into the world but it immediately fucks them over.</quote> "Well, I just lost my job and my wife died in a plane crash. I have no family or help and I'm forced to live in an alley. My 1 year old son is going to have a shitty life now so I might as well kill him." ^Is there something wrong with this?</quote> Yes: the fact that you still can't tell the difference between an egg and a chicken.</quote> Maybe you didn't hear. A newly conceived human life is still considered a human life, scientifically. Whether or not a human possesses personhood shouldn't be the determining factor for whether or not it's legal to kill them.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
That_Happened 07/20/17 2:27:26 PM #490:	Vindris_SNH posted... hockeybub89 posted... I'm pretty sure he said normal people at one point. So does that make everyone that supports abortion mentally ill? Does that mean they are all unfit and can abort their fetuses? I don't remember saying that but I wouldn't doubt it. If you're OK with abortion it's because you've been brainwashed by propaganda. That's it. Not mentally ill, and not necessarily your fault. But definitely brainwashed. Said by the same guy who claimed "Christianity is truth." You may be the most self unaware person on the board and that's saying a LOT, God boy. --- http://fusionanomaly.net/magnoliabutitdidhappen.jpg <cite>That_Happened posted [p:883275869] in Why isnt a... [t:75567333]...</cite> <quote><cite>Vindris_SNH posted...</cite> <quote><cite>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote>I'm pretty sure he said normal people at one point. So does that make everyone that supports abortion mentally ill? Does that mean they are all unfit and can abort their fetuses?</quote> I don't remember saying that but I wouldn't doubt it. If you're OK with abortion it's because you've been brainwashed by propaganda. That's it. Not mentally ill, and not necessarily your fault. But definitely brainwashed.</quote> Said by the same guy who claimed "Christianity is truth." You may be the most self unaware person on the board and that's saying a LOT, God boy.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zeeak4444 07/20/17 2:27:29 PM #491:	Vindris_SNH posted... hockeybub89 posted... I'm pretty sure he said normal people at one point. So does that make everyone that supports abortion mentally ill? Does that mean they are all unfit and can abort their fetuses? I don't remember saying that but I wouldn't doubt it. If you're OK with abortion it's because you've been brainwashed by propaganda. That's it. Not mentally ill, and not necessarily your fault. But definitely brainwashed. The irony of this coming from a religeous person. Let's ask you this, where do you derive your ethics and morals from? I can define mine and clearly express why I hold them and where they stem from. Can you? I'd love to hear it, maybe it would help us understand your perspective better. --- Typical gameFAQers are "Complainers that always complain about those who complain about real legitimate complaints."-Joker_X <cite>Zeeak4444 posted [p:883275878] in Why isnt a... [t:75567333]...</cite> <quote><cite>Vindris_SNH posted...</cite> <quote><cite>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote>I'm pretty sure he said normal people at one point. So does that make everyone that supports abortion mentally ill? Does that mean they are all unfit and can abort their fetuses?</quote> I don't remember saying that but I wouldn't doubt it. If you're OK with abortion it's because you've been brainwashed by propaganda. That's it. Not mentally ill, and not necessarily your fault. But definitely brainwashed.</quote> The irony of this coming from a religeous person. Let's ask you this, where do you derive your ethics and morals from? I can define mine and clearly express why I hold them and where they stem from. Can you? I'd love to hear it, maybe it would help us understand your perspective better.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Vindris_SNH 07/20/17 2:29:00 PM #492:	That_Happened posted... Vindris_SNH posted... Why do people help strangers in need? It's none of their fucking business. You're not helping anyone. A better question would be "why hurt strangers in need?" and that's what we're trying to figure out about you. Because your plan actively hurts mothers, fathers, AND children. If abortion was made illegal (except in defense of the mother's life), I would also like to see new government programs arise that are designed to help mother and fathers provide and care for their children. In fact, I would insist on it. --- glitteringfairy: Just build the damn wall ThyCorndog: and how exactly will that stop the mexican space program from orbital dropping illegal immigrants? <cite>Vindris_SNH posted [p:883275981] in Why isnt a... [t:75567333]...</cite> <quote><cite>That_Happened posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Vindris_SNH posted...</cite> <quote>Why do people help strangers in need? It's none of their fucking business.</quote> You're not helping anyone. A better question would be "why hurt strangers in need?" and that's what we're trying to figure out about you. Because your plan actively hurts mothers, fathers, AND children.</quote> If abortion was made illegal (except in defense of the mother's life), I would also like to see new government programs arise that are designed to help mother and fathers provide and care for their children. In fact, I would insist on it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zeeak4444 07/20/17 2:30:04 PM #493:	Vindris_SNH posted... That_Happened posted... Vindris_SNH posted... Why do people help strangers in need? It's none of their fucking business. You're not helping anyone. A better question would be "why hurt strangers in need?" and that's what we're trying to figure out about you. Because your plan actively hurts mothers, fathers, AND children. If abortion was made illegal (except in defense of the mother's life), I would also like to see new government programs arise that are designed to help mother and fathers provide and care for their children. In fact, I would insist on it. Well, now that you insist I'm sure the government will listen. --- Typical gameFAQers are "Complainers that always complain about those who complain about real legitimate complaints."-Joker_X <cite>Zeeak4444 posted [p:883276046] in Why isnt a... [t:75567333]...</cite> <quote><cite>Vindris_SNH posted...</cite> <quote><cite>That_Happened posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Vindris_SNH posted...</cite> <quote>Why do people help strangers in need? It's none of their fucking business.</quote> You're not helping anyone. A better question would be "why hurt strangers in need?" and that's what we're trying to figure out about you. Because your plan actively hurts mothers, fathers, AND children.</quote> If abortion was made illegal (except in defense of the mother's life), I would also like to see new government programs arise that are designed to help mother and fathers provide and care for their children. In fact, I would insist on it.</quote> Well, now that you insist I'm sure the government will listen.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Vindris_SNH 07/20/17 2:30:36 PM #494:	It's sad that so few pro-lifers have had the balls to stand up for what's right in this thread. I'm sure you guys are reading. Shame on you. --- glitteringfairy: Just build the damn wall ThyCorndog: and how exactly will that stop the mexican space program from orbital dropping illegal immigrants? <cite>Vindris_SNH posted [p:883276086] in Why isnt a... [t:75567333]...</cite> <quote>It's sad that so few pro-lifers have had the balls to stand up for what's right in this thread. I'm sure you guys are reading. Shame on you.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
That_Happened 07/20/17 2:31:13 PM #495:	Vindris_SNH posted... In fact, I would insist on it. With this and your "protecting innocent life is absolutely my business", I'm starting to think you believe you're some type of a superhero. How important do you think you are, exactly? --- http://fusionanomaly.net/magnoliabutitdidhappen.jpg <cite>That_Happened posted [p:883276133] in Why isnt a... [t:75567333]...</cite> <quote><cite>Vindris_SNH posted...</cite> <quote> In fact, I would insist on it.</quote> With this and your "protecting innocent life is absolutely my business", I'm starting to think you believe you're some type of a superhero. How important do you think you are, exactly?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
That_Happened 07/20/17 2:32:40 PM #496:	KVindris_SNH posted... It's sad that so few pro-lifers have had the balls to stand up for what's right in this thread. I'm sure you guys are reading. Shame on you. What's right is giving options to the people who need them. That includes abortion. What's wrong is making medical decisions for people you don't know, and forcing women to give birth. --- http://fusionanomaly.net/magnoliabutitdidhappen.jpg <cite>That_Happened posted [p:883276217] in Why isnt a... [t:75567333]...</cite> <quote>K<cite>Vindris_SNH posted...</cite> <quote>It's sad that so few pro-lifers have had the balls to stand up for what's right in this thread. I'm sure you guys are reading. Shame on you.</quote> What's right is giving options to the people who need them. That includes abortion. What's wrong is making medical decisions for people you don't know, and forcing women to give birth.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ImTheMacheteGuy 07/20/17 2:33:03 PM #497:	Vindris_SNH posted... hockeybub89 posted... I'm pretty sure he said normal people at one point. So does that make everyone that supports abortion mentally ill? Does that mean they are all unfit and can abort their fetuses? I don't remember saying that but I wouldn't doubt it. If you're OK with abortion it's because you've been brainwashed by propaganda. That's it. Not mentally ill, and not necessarily your fault. But definitely brainwashed. What propaganda do you think I've seen and how would someone as dismissive, distrusting and paranoid as myself buy into it? --- Place-holder sig because new phone and old sigs not saved :/ <cite>ImTheMacheteGuy posted [p:883276249] in Why isnt a... [t:75567333]...</cite> <quote><cite>Vindris_SNH posted...</cite> <quote><cite>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote>I'm pretty sure he said normal people at one point. So does that make everyone that supports abortion mentally ill? Does that mean they are all unfit and can abort their fetuses?</quote> I don't remember saying that but I wouldn't doubt it. If you're OK with abortion it's because you've been brainwashed by propaganda. That's it. Not mentally ill, and not necessarily your fault. But definitely brainwashed.</quote> What propaganda do you think I've seen and how would someone as dismissive, distrusting and paranoid as myself buy into it?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TrevorBlack79 07/20/17 2:33:31 PM #498:	So no chance of you answering my question before the thread closes, huh? --- "a minority is someone who you can tell off the bat they are black/hispanic/colored. LGBT isn't a minority" - Blakkheim1 <cite>TrevorBlack79 posted [p:883276290] in Why isnt a... [t:75567333]...</cite> <quote>So no chance of you answering my question before the thread closes, huh?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MelzezDoor 07/20/17 2:33:48 PM #499:	Because shut the fuck up. --- http://i.imgur.com/ARaZB2G.png http://i.imgur.com/LvEUiSl.png <cite>MelzezDoor posted [p:883276306] in Why isnt a... [t:75567333]...</cite> <quote>Because shut the fuck up.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ImTheMacheteGuy 07/20/17 2:33:49 PM #500:	500 --- Place-holder sig because new phone and old sigs not saved :/ <cite>ImTheMacheteGuy posted [p:883276308] in Why isnt a... [t:75567333]...</cite> <quote>500</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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