Board 8 > So, Goku now has an attack that warps reality and erases you like Balefire.

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EmDubyaSee 07/14/17 9:50:11 PM #1:	Yet another nail in Superman's coffin. (Hakai) --- Tom Bombadil: "you are probably the king of b8 dragonball fans at least!" <cite>EmDubyaSee posted [p:882932844] in So, Goku n... [t:75566379]...</cite> <quote>Yet another nail in Superman's coffin. (Hakai)</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
scarletspeed7 07/14/17 9:52:05 PM #2:	If Superman ceases to exist, so does all of fiction, per Grant Morrison. --- "Reading would be your friend." ~Dave Meltzer <cite>scarletspeed7 posted [p:882932930] in So, Goku n... [t:75566379]...</cite> <quote>If Superman ceases to exist, so does all of fiction, per Grant Morrison.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
-FFDragon- 07/14/17 9:52:15 PM #3:	Ipkiss could beat both. --- If you wake up at a different time, in a different place, could you wake up on a different Nexus? <cite>-FFDragon- posted [p:882932940] in So, Goku n... [t:75566379]...</cite> <quote>Ipkiss could beat both.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Anagram 07/14/17 9:55:08 PM #4:	Superman can tank the Omega Beams from Darkseid, which do the same thing. --- Not changing this sig until I decide to change this sig. Started: July 6, 2005 <cite>Anagram posted [p:882933081] in So, Goku n... [t:75566379]...</cite> <quote>Superman can tank the Omega Beams from Darkseid, which do the same thing.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Alany 07/14/17 9:56:30 PM #5:	Elaborate and post video evidence please <cite>Alany posted [p:882933142] in So, Goku n... [t:75566379]...</cite> <quote>Elaborate and post video evidence please</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MoogleKupo141 07/14/17 9:57:32 PM #6:	why use any other attack then --- For your BK_Sheikah00. At least Kupo has class and doesn't MESSAGE the people -Dr Pizza <cite>MoogleKupo141 posted [p:882933197] in So, Goku n... [t:75566379]...</cite> <quote>why use any other attack then</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EmDubyaSee 07/14/17 10:00:04 PM #7:	Alany posted... Elaborate and post video evidence please It's in the manga. And what elaboration would you like? --- Tom Bombadil: "you are probably the king of b8 dragonball fans at least!" <cite>EmDubyaSee posted [p:882933320] in So, Goku n... [t:75566379]...</cite> <quote><cite>Alany posted...</cite> <quote>Elaborate and post video evidence please</quote> It's in the manga. And what elaboration would you like?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Anagram 07/14/17 10:00:04 PM #8:	Is Yamcha or Chioatzu weaker? --- Not changing this sig until I decide to change this sig. Started: July 6, 2005 <cite>Anagram posted [p:882933321] in So, Goku n... [t:75566379]...</cite> <quote>Is Yamcha or Chioatzu weaker?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EmDubyaSee 07/14/17 10:00:47 PM #9:	Anagram posted... Is Yamcha or Chioatzu weaker? Currently? (Actually, ever...) Chioatzu has never been stronger than Yamcha --- Tom Bombadil: "you are probably the king of b8 dragonball fans at least!" <cite>EmDubyaSee posted [p:882933361] in So, Goku n... [t:75566379]...</cite> <quote><cite>Anagram posted...</cite> <quote>Is Yamcha or Chioatzu weaker?</quote> Currently? (Actually, ever...) Chioatzu has never been stronger than Yamcha</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EmDubyaSee 07/14/17 10:01:33 PM #10:	MoogleKupo141 posted... why use any other attack then Cause 1: Goku is an idiot. 2: He doesn't really fight to kill. --- Tom Bombadil: "you are probably the king of b8 dragonball fans at least!" <cite>EmDubyaSee posted [p:882933398] in So, Goku n... [t:75566379]...</cite> <quote><cite>MoogleKupo141 posted...</cite> <quote>why use any other attack then</quote> Cause 1: Goku is an idiot. 2: He doesn't really fight to kill.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Anagram 07/14/17 10:02:23 PM #11:	Does that mean Yajirobe is the weakest Z Fighter? --- Not changing this sig until I decide to change this sig. Started: July 6, 2005 <cite>Anagram posted [p:882933440] in So, Goku n... [t:75566379]...</cite> <quote>Does that mean Yajirobe is the weakest Z Fighter?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EmDubyaSee 07/14/17 10:09:22 PM #12:	Anagram posted... Does that mean Yajirobe is the weakest Z Fighter? Ok, starting from Yamcha (we know Roshi, Goku, Krillin, Cyborgs Trunks, Goten, Uub etc are much stronger than them) Yamcha Chiaoutzu/Yajorobe/Popo (Really impossible to rank these here, I'll explain why in a few) Korin Chichi Videl Satan Turtle. It is hinted that Maron has 18 and Krillins power too, In which case she'll be higher, but a couple more episodes till we know. And Bra will be stronger than all the by default, but being she is only hours old right is,not yet. Shin may be higher than Yamcha, or #2 on that list. We don't yet know how much stronger Yamcha got. Only that he secretly trained and survived 2 GoDs fighting. Which is one hell of a feat. --- Tom Bombadil: "you are probably the king of b8 dragonball fans at least!" <cite>EmDubyaSee posted [p:882933756] in So, Goku n... [t:75566379]...</cite> <quote><cite>Anagram posted...</cite> <quote>Does that mean Yajirobe is the weakest Z Fighter?</quote> Ok, starting from Yamcha (we know Roshi, Goku, Krillin, Cyborgs Trunks, Goten, Uub etc are much stronger than them) Yamcha Chiaoutzu/Yajorobe/Popo (Really impossible to rank these here, I'll explain why in a few) Korin Chichi Videl Satan Turtle. It is hinted that Maron has 18 and Krillins power too, In which case she'll be higher, but a couple more episodes till we know. And Bra will be stronger than all the by default, but being she is only hours old right is,not yet. Shin may be higher than Yamcha, or #2 on that list. We don't yet know how much stronger Yamcha got. Only that he secretly trained and survived 2 GoDs fighting. Which is one hell of a feat.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Alany 07/14/17 10:12:55 PM #13:	EmDubyaSee posted... It's in the manga. Give us a page then <cite>Alany posted [p:882933906] in So, Goku n... [t:75566379]...</cite> <quote><cite>EmDubyaSee posted...</cite> <quote>It's in the manga. </quote> Give us a page then</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EmDubyaSee 07/14/17 10:15:23 PM #14:	Alany posted... EmDubyaSee posted... It's in the manga. Give us a page then I don't know. I've only seen scans of it. It's barely been out in Japan. Let alone done by Viz here yet. --- Tom Bombadil: "you are probably the king of b8 dragonball fans at least!" <cite>EmDubyaSee posted [p:882933996] in So, Goku n... [t:75566379]...</cite> <quote><cite>Alany posted...</cite> <quote><cite>EmDubyaSee posted...</cite> <quote>It's in the manga. </quote> Give us a page then</quote> I don't know. I've only seen scans of it. It's barely been out in Japan. Let alone done by Viz here yet.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Anagram 07/14/17 10:20:18 PM #15:	EmDubyaSee posted... Anagram posted... Does that mean Yajirobe is the weakest Z Fighter? Ok, starting from Yamcha (we know Roshi, Goku, Krillin, Cyborgs Trunks, Goten, Uub etc are much stronger than them) Yamcha Chiaoutzu/Yajorobe/Popo (Really impossible to rank these here, I'll explain why in a few) Korin Chichi Videl Satan Turtle. It is hinted that Maron has 18 and Krillins power too, In which case she'll be higher, but a couple more episodes till we know. And Bra will be stronger than all the by default, but being she is only hours old right is,not yet. Shin may be higher than Yamcha, or #2 on that list. We don't yet know how much stronger Yamcha got. Only that he secretly trained and survived 2 GoDs fighting. Which is one hell of a feat. I didn't realize Yajirobe was even close to Chiaotzu. --- Not changing this sig until I decide to change this sig. Started: July 6, 2005 <cite>Anagram posted [p:882934246] in So, Goku n... [t:75566379]...</cite> <quote><cite>EmDubyaSee posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Anagram posted...</cite> <quote>Does that mean Yajirobe is the weakest Z Fighter?</quote> Ok, starting from Yamcha (we know Roshi, Goku, Krillin, Cyborgs Trunks, Goten, Uub etc are much stronger than them) Yamcha Chiaoutzu/Yajorobe/Popo (Really impossible to rank these here, I'll explain why in a few) Korin Chichi Videl Satan Turtle. It is hinted that Maron has 18 and Krillins power too, In which case she'll be higher, but a couple more episodes till we know. And Bra will be stronger than all the by default, but being she is only hours old right is,not yet. Shin may be higher than Yamcha, or #2 on that list. We don't yet know how much stronger Yamcha got. Only that he secretly trained and survived 2 GoDs fighting. Which is one hell of a feat.</quote> I didn't realize Yajirobe was even close to Chiaotzu.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MenuWars 07/14/17 10:23:40 PM #16:	When did Yamcha become stronger than Popo? Also if Goku can now warp reality he actually has a chance versus supes and it's now actually a debate rather than Superman just god modes him and he cries. --- I'm bad at Maffs. BEDMAS Bioshock, Earthworm Jim, Diablo 2, Mass Effect 2, Ark: Survival Evolved, Super Meat Boy <cite>MenuWars posted [p:882934422] in So, Goku n... [t:75566379]...</cite> <quote>When did Yamcha become stronger than Popo? Also if Goku can now warp reality he actually has a chance versus supes and it's now actually a debate rather than Superman just god modes him and he cries.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EmDubyaSee 07/14/17 10:23:56 PM #17:	Anagram posted... EmDubyaSee posted... Anagram posted... Does that mean Yajirobe is the weakest Z Fighter? Ok, starting from Yamcha (we know Roshi, Goku, Krillin, Cyborgs Trunks, Goten, Uub etc are much stronger than them) Yamcha Chiaoutzu/Yajorobe/Popo (Really impossible to rank these here, I'll explain why in a few) Korin Chichi Videl Satan Turtle. It is hinted that Maron has 18 and Krillins power too, In which case she'll be higher, but a couple more episodes till we know. And Bra will be stronger than all the by default, but being she is only hours old right is,not yet. Shin may be higher than Yamcha, or #2 on that list. We don't yet know how much stronger Yamcha got. Only that he secretly trained and survived 2 GoDs fighting. Which is one hell of a feat. I didn't realize Yajirobe was even close to Chiaotzu. It's... debatable. I'll try and explain it. --- Tom Bombadil: "you are probably the king of b8 dragonball fans at least!" <cite>EmDubyaSee posted [p:882934434] in So, Goku n... [t:75566379]...</cite> <quote><cite>Anagram posted...</cite> <quote><cite>EmDubyaSee posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Anagram posted...</cite> <quote>Does that mean Yajirobe is the weakest Z Fighter?</quote> Ok, starting from Yamcha (we know Roshi, Goku, Krillin, Cyborgs Trunks, Goten, Uub etc are much stronger than them) Yamcha Chiaoutzu/Yajorobe/Popo (Really impossible to rank these here, I'll explain why in a few) Korin Chichi Videl Satan Turtle. It is hinted that Maron has 18 and Krillins power too, In which case she'll be higher, but a couple more episodes till we know. And Bra will be stronger than all the by default, but being she is only hours old right is,not yet. Shin may be higher than Yamcha, or #2 on that list. We don't yet know how much stronger Yamcha got. Only that he secretly trained and survived 2 GoDs fighting. Which is one hell of a feat.</quote> I didn't realize Yajirobe was even close to Chiaotzu.</quote> It's... debatable. I'll try and explain it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EmDubyaSee 07/14/17 10:28:48 PM #18:	MenuWars posted... When did Yamcha become stronger than Popo? Mr. Popo has a power level of 1030 When the Saiayns arrived at 11:44 AM Nappa said there were half a dozen power levels over 1,000 Those were Popo, Piccolo, Tien, Yamcha, Yajorobe and Krillin. It's important to note Gohan was actually slightly under that (though he could go far stronger than everyone else as he capped at 2800 during the race against Nappa). Chiaoutzu was 610. Kami was 280. Roshi was 134 I believe. (Although Super has potentially made it so his power was already in the millions and he was just hiding it, not even kidding) Yamcha either passed Popo during the training with he and Kami (likely, since Popo is only at 1030, barely over 1,000, and Yamcha beat a Saibaman which depending on which Radditz power level you agree with should be either 1,200 or 1,500z) or when he trained with Kaiosama --- Tom Bombadil: "you are probably the king of b8 dragonball fans at least!" <cite>EmDubyaSee posted [p:882934654] in So, Goku n... [t:75566379]...</cite> <quote><cite>MenuWars posted...</cite> <quote>When did Yamcha become stronger than Popo?</quote> Mr. Popo has a power level of 1030 When the Saiayns arrived at 11:44 AM Nappa said there were half a dozen power levels over 1,000 Those were Popo, Piccolo, Tien, Yamcha, Yajorobe and Krillin. It's important to note Gohan was actually slightly under that (though he could go far stronger than everyone else as he capped at 2800 during the race against Nappa). Chiaoutzu was 610. Kami was 280. Roshi was 134 I believe. (Although Super has potentially made it so his power was already in the millions and he was just hiding it, not even kidding) Yamcha either passed Popo during the training with he and Kami (likely, since Popo is only at 1030, barely over 1,000, and Yamcha beat a Saibaman which depending on which Radditz power level you agree with should be either 1,200 or 1,500z) or when he trained with Kaiosama</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SSJSephirothGokuX123 07/14/17 10:31:41 PM #19:	Chiaotzu trained with King Kai and beat Guldo (filler fight through) which should put him above Yajirobe, but Chiaotzu's still Chiaotzu and would probably lose anyway. I wouldn't be surprised if Yamcha is now Gotenks level like Roshi and Krillin are now, Tien took his place as jobber at this point :( --- http://i.imgur.com/MDYrnop.png LOL!!!! I hope that's a joke....names don't get more n00bish than that <cite>SSJSephirothGokuX123 posted [p:882934793] in So, Goku n... [t:75566379]...</cite> <quote>Chiaotzu trained with King Kai and beat Guldo (filler fight through) which should put him above Yajirobe, but Chiaotzu's still Chiaotzu and would probably lose anyway. I wouldn't be surprised if Yamcha is now Gotenks level like Roshi and Krillin are now, Tien took his place as jobber at this point :(</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Anagram 07/14/17 10:33:35 PM #20:	Why would Roshi hide his power level when Vegeta, Nappa, Cell, and Buu threatened the world? --- Not changing this sig until I decide to change this sig. Started: July 6, 2005 <cite>Anagram posted [p:882934892] in So, Goku n... [t:75566379]...</cite> <quote>Why would Roshi hide his power level when Vegeta, Nappa, Cell, and Buu threatened the world?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Alany 07/14/17 10:33:44 PM #21:	EmDubyaSee posted... I don't know. I've only seen scans of it. It's barely been out in Japan. Let alone done by Viz here yet. So... what you're saying is you know nothing about the attack at all and yet you're posting about it on here? <cite>Alany posted [p:882934900] in So, Goku n... [t:75566379]...</cite> <quote><cite>EmDubyaSee posted...</cite> <quote>I don't know. I've only seen scans of it. It's barely been out in Japan. Let alone done by Viz here yet. </quote> So... what you're saying is you know nothing about the attack at all and yet you're posting about it on here?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LapisLazuli 07/14/17 10:36:48 PM #22:	The Super manga isn't even done by Toriyama. --- **** Netflix <cite>LapisLazuli posted [p:882935056] in So, Goku n... [t:75566379]...</cite> <quote>The Super manga isn't even done by Toriyama.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EmDubyaSee 07/14/17 10:37:05 PM #23:	SSJSephirothGokuX123 posted... Chiaotzu trained with King Kai and beat Guldo (filler fight through) which should put him above Yajirobe, but Chiaotzu's still Chiaotzu and would probably lose anyway. I wouldn't be surprised if Yamcha is now Gotenks level like Roshi and Krillin are now, Tien took his place as jobber at this point :( Chiaoutzu did not beat Guldo, as it is non canon and therefore Didn't happen. That said. Unlike Yamcha and Tien beating the rest ofn the Ginyus who would have powers between 40,000 and 70,000 and therefore would stand no prayee against, Guldo is only 10,000. It's conceivable Chiaoutzu could have gotten that strong during Training. Also, it might not make sense (it doesn't) but Tien, Krillin and Roshi are far FAR above SSJ3Gotenks right now (and by extension Super Buu) Yamcha more than likely also is. But it's debatable, and I'll talk on that later. --- Tom Bombadil: "you are probably the king of b8 dragonball fans at least!" <cite>EmDubyaSee posted [p:882935074] in So, Goku n... [t:75566379]...</cite> <quote><cite>SSJSephirothGokuX123 posted...</cite> <quote>Chiaotzu trained with King Kai and beat Guldo (filler fight through) which should put him above Yajirobe, but Chiaotzu's still Chiaotzu and would probably lose anyway. I wouldn't be surprised if Yamcha is now Gotenks level like Roshi and Krillin are now, Tien took his place as jobber at this point :(</quote> Chiaoutzu did not beat Guldo, as it is non canon and therefore Didn't happen. That said. Unlike Yamcha and Tien beating the rest ofn the Ginyus who would have powers between 40,000 and 70,000 and therefore would stand no prayee against, Guldo is only 10,000. It's conceivable Chiaoutzu could have gotten that strong during Training. Also, it might not make sense (it doesn't) but Tien, Krillin and Roshi are far FAR above SSJ3Gotenks right now (and by extension Super Buu) Yamcha more than likely also is. But it's debatable, and I'll talk on that later.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Anagram 07/14/17 10:38:12 PM #24:	How did the humans get stronger than SSJ3 characters? Was it really just by training? And why did literally every female character stop fighting and become just side characters? --- Not changing this sig until I decide to change this sig. Started: July 6, 2005 <cite>Anagram posted [p:882935129] in So, Goku n... [t:75566379]...</cite> <quote>How did the humans get stronger than SSJ3 characters? Was it really just by training? And why did literally every female character stop fighting and become just side characters?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EmDubyaSee 07/14/17 10:38:51 PM #25:	Alany posted... EmDubyaSee posted... I don't know. I've only seen scans of it. It's barely been out in Japan. Let alone done by Viz here yet. So... what you're saying is you know nothing about the attack at all and yet you're posting about it on here? No, I definitleynknow about the attack. The attack was beforehand only thought to be capable of by a God of Destruction and Zeno himself. However Goku can now also do it. I can show you a scene of Hakai. (It's awesome actually. Just not from Goku. --- Tom Bombadil: "you are probably the king of b8 dragonball fans at least!" <cite>EmDubyaSee posted [p:882935162] in So, Goku n... [t:75566379]...</cite> <quote><cite>Alany posted...</cite> <quote><cite>EmDubyaSee posted...</cite> <quote>I don't know. I've only seen scans of it. It's barely been out in Japan. Let alone done by Viz here yet. </quote> So... what you're saying is you know nothing about the attack at all and yet you're posting about it on here?</quote> No, I definitleynknow about the attack. The attack was beforehand only thought to be capable of by a God of Destruction and Zeno himself. However Goku can now also do it. I can show you a scene of Hakai. (It's awesome actually. Just not from Goku.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EmDubyaSee 07/14/17 10:39:34 PM #26:	Anagram posted... How did the humans get stronger than SSJ3 characters? Was it really just by training? And why did literally every female character stop fighting and become just side characters? 18 is currently fighting for the Universe survival right now. But the answer is Toriyama... --- Tom Bombadil: "you are probably the king of b8 dragonball fans at least!" <cite>EmDubyaSee posted [p:882935209] in So, Goku n... [t:75566379]...</cite> <quote><cite>Anagram posted...</cite> <quote>How did the humans get stronger than SSJ3 characters? Was it really just by training? And why did literally every female character stop fighting and become just side characters?</quote> 18 is currently fighting for the Universe survival right now. But the answer is Toriyama...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Anagram 07/14/17 10:41:47 PM #27:	I miss the days when Piccolo complained that everyone except the Saiyans was useless, including himself. --- Not changing this sig until I decide to change this sig. Started: July 6, 2005 <cite>Anagram posted [p:882935306] in So, Goku n... [t:75566379]...</cite> <quote>I miss the days when Piccolo complained that everyone except the Saiyans was useless, including himself.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EmDubyaSee 07/14/17 10:41:54 PM #28:	Anagram posted... Why would Roshi hide his power level when Vegeta, Nappa, Cell, and Buu threatened the world? Lol Super is the only reason I can give you for this.. There is no conceivable reason Roshi would let his friends die against Vegeta and Nappa. If your argument is Goku would save the day... ok. There is NO CONCEIVABLE WAY he would let Frieza destroy Earth though. He would not know about Trunks coming. And would only know of Frieza being there and the others not even having a 50th of his power. --- Tom Bombadil: "you are probably the king of b8 dragonball fans at least!" <cite>EmDubyaSee posted [p:882935309] in So, Goku n... [t:75566379]...</cite> <quote><cite>Anagram posted...</cite> <quote>Why would Roshi hide his power level when Vegeta, Nappa, Cell, and Buu threatened the world?</quote> Lol Super is the only reason I can give you for this.. There is no conceivable reason Roshi would let his friends die against Vegeta and Nappa. If your argument is Goku would save the day... ok. There is NO CONCEIVABLE WAY he would let Frieza destroy Earth though. He would not know about Trunks coming. And would only know of Frieza being there and the others not even having a 50th of his power.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ProkhorZakharov 07/14/17 10:42:16 PM #29:	MWC knows the Wheel of Time? I'm suddenly reconsidering my interests and life choices... --- What actually transpires beneath the veil of an event horizon? Decent people shouldn't think too much about that. NFUN <cite>ProkhorZakharov posted [p:882935325] in So, Goku n... [t:75566379]...</cite> <quote>MWC knows the Wheel of Time? I'm suddenly reconsidering my interests and life choices...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
swordz9 07/14/17 10:43:44 PM #30:	Anagram posted... How did the humans get stronger than SSJ3 characters? Was it really just by training? And why did literally every female character stop fighting and become just side characters? Nonsense so they wouldn't be worthless forever. There's no logical way any of them could ever hope to power creep up to the Saiyans so random bs explanations exist so they don't just literally compete out of nowhere. As for the girls almost none of them fought anyways. Videl used to, but seems to have become a waifu and 18 also had a child and no reason to fight until Super decided to use her more. <cite>swordz9 posted [p:882935398] in So, Goku n... [t:75566379]...</cite> <quote><cite>Anagram posted...</cite> <quote>How did the humans get stronger than SSJ3 characters? Was it really just by training? And why did literally every female character stop fighting and become just side characters?</quote> Nonsense so they wouldn't be worthless forever. There's no logical way any of them could ever hope to power creep up to the Saiyans so random bs explanations exist so they don't just literally compete out of nowhere. As for the girls almost none of them fought anyways. Videl used to, but seems to have become a waifu and 18 also had a child and no reason to fight until Super decided to use her more.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EmDubyaSee 07/14/17 10:43:47 PM #31:	LapisLazuli posted... The Super manga isn't even done by Toriyama. Neither is the anime. The storyboards are. They are both canon. Have fun with Super. --- Tom Bombadil: "you are probably the king of b8 dragonball fans at least!" <cite>EmDubyaSee posted [p:882935404] in So, Goku n... [t:75566379]...</cite> <quote><cite>LapisLazuli posted...</cite> <quote>The Super manga isn't even done by Toriyama.</quote> Neither is the anime. The storyboards are. They are both canon. Have fun with Super.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EmDubyaSee 07/14/17 10:51:13 PM #32:	swordz9 posted... Anagram posted... How did the humans get stronger than SSJ3 characters? Was it really just by training? And why did literally every female character stop fighting and become just side characters? Nonsense so they wouldn't be worthless forever. There's no logical way any of them could ever hope to power creep up to the Saiyans so random bs explanations exist so they don't just literally compete out of nowhere. As for the girls almost none of them fought anyways. Videl used to, but seems to have become a waifu and 18 also had a child and no reason to fight until Super decided to use her more. Ok. Chi Chi's reason to stop fighting and become a house wife was admittedly stupid. And 18 quit when Krillin quit training, and when he started again so did she... Videl However had every reason to quit. Her entire life she spent trying not to be in her fathers shadow, and got as strong as any normal human can (you can argue Nam was a Super Human, I'm Not going to here) surpassing even King Chappa. Then in one day... BAM. It was all a lie. All of it. She was never really needing to worry about surpassing her father because everyone else at the Cell games was the real strength and heroes. To top it all off, she was tortured by Spopovitch, watched Chi Chi turned into an egg and stepped on in front of her, was literally feet away as 18 and baby Maron were killed in cold blood in front of her and finally was turned into Chocolate along with Bulma, Popo and eaten. She has every legitimate reason ever to give up fighting. --- Tom Bombadil: "you are probably the king of b8 dragonball fans at least!" <cite>EmDubyaSee posted [p:882935767] in So, Goku n... [t:75566379]...</cite> <quote><cite>swordz9 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Anagram posted...</cite> <quote>How did the humans get stronger than SSJ3 characters? Was it really just by training? And why did literally every female character stop fighting and become just side characters?</quote> Nonsense so they wouldn't be worthless forever. There's no logical way any of them could ever hope to power creep up to the Saiyans so random bs explanations exist so they don't just literally compete out of nowhere. As for the girls almost none of them fought anyways. Videl used to, but seems to have become a waifu and 18 also had a child and no reason to fight until Super decided to use her more.</quote> Ok. Chi Chi's reason to stop fighting and become a house wife was admittedly stupid. And 18 quit when Krillin quit training, and when he started again so did she... Videl However had every reason to quit. Her entire life she spent trying not to be in her fathers shadow, and got as strong as any normal human can (you can argue Nam was a Super Human, I'm Not going to here) surpassing even King Chappa. Then in one day... BAM. It was all a lie. All of it. She was never really needing to worry about surpassing her father because everyone else at the Cell games was the real strength and heroes. To top it all off, she was tortured by Spopovitch, watched Chi Chi turned into an egg and stepped on in front of her, was literally feet away as 18 and baby Maron were killed in cold blood in front of her and finally was turned into Chocolate along with Bulma, Popo and eaten. She has every legitimate reason ever to give up fighting.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Anagram 07/14/17 10:51:48 PM #33:	I also just sort of assumed that Roshi was weak because he was super old. --- Not changing this sig until I decide to change this sig. Started: July 6, 2005 <cite>Anagram posted [p:882935795] in So, Goku n... [t:75566379]...</cite> <quote>I also just sort of assumed that Roshi was weak because he was super old.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SSJSephirothGokuX123 07/14/17 10:52:38 PM #34:	Super does reference some filler like Gergory and Bulma recognizing Captain Ginyu so it's probably not that far fetched if they did decide to make the Ginyu force fight canon, and the humans already made huge asspulls growths by training with Kami/Popo by becoming stronger than Goku did after 3 years of training. Also Tien hasn't shown anything yet that he's Gotenks level, all he's done so far is get wrecked by Roshi (on the episode that was supposed to be his highlight) and Gohan, and beat some Frieza army fodder. --- http://i.imgur.com/MDYrnop.png LOL!!!! I hope that's a joke....names don't get more n00bish than that <cite>SSJSephirothGokuX123 posted [p:882935839] in So, Goku n... [t:75566379]...</cite> <quote>Super does reference some filler like Gergory and Bulma recognizing Captain Ginyu so it's probably not that far fetched if they did decide to make the Ginyu force fight canon, and the humans already made huge asspulls growths by training with Kami/Popo by becoming stronger than Goku did after 3 years of training. Also Tien hasn't shown anything yet that he's Gotenks level, all he's done so far is get wrecked by Roshi (on the episode that was supposed to be his highlight) and Gohan, and beat some Frieza army fodder.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EmDubyaSee 07/14/17 10:52:47 PM #35:	Anagram posted... I also just sort of assumed that Roshi was weak because he was super old. Well, I mean. That's kinda dumb. He was 400 years old at start of DB and by every metric regarded as thennost powerful man in the world. --- Tom Bombadil: "you are probably the king of b8 dragonball fans at least!" <cite>EmDubyaSee posted [p:882935844] in So, Goku n... [t:75566379]...</cite> <quote><cite>Anagram posted...</cite> <quote>I also just sort of assumed that Roshi was weak because he was super old.</quote> Well, I mean. That's kinda dumb. He was 400 years old at start of DB and by every metric regarded as thennost powerful man in the world.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Anagram 07/14/17 10:54:06 PM #36:	EmDubyaSee posted... Anagram posted... I also just sort of assumed that Roshi was weak because he was super old. Well, I mean. That's kinda dumb. He was 400 years old at start of DB and by every metric regarded as thennost powerful man in the world. I've never watched any episode of DB except the one where the guy throws a log and stands on it so he can travel quickly. I just assumed that all of the weird characters like the blond chick, the pig guy, Roshi, and the turtle who never did anything were important in DB and remained for the sake of continuity. --- Not changing this sig until I decide to change this sig. Started: July 6, 2005 <cite>Anagram posted [p:882935910] in So, Goku n... [t:75566379]...</cite> <quote><cite>EmDubyaSee posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Anagram posted...</cite> <quote>I also just sort of assumed that Roshi was weak because he was super old.</quote> Well, I mean. That's kinda dumb. He was 400 years old at start of DB and by every metric regarded as thennost powerful man in the world.</quote> I've never watched any episode of DB except the one where the guy throws a log and stands on it so he can travel quickly. I just assumed that all of the weird characters like the blond chick, the pig guy, Roshi, and the turtle who never did anything were important in DB and remained for the sake of continuity.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EmDubyaSee 07/14/17 10:55:08 PM #37:	SSJSephirothGokuX123 posted... Super does reference some filler like Gergory and Bulma recognizing Captain Ginyu so it's probably not that far fetched if they did decide to make the Ginyu force fight canon, and the humans already made huge asspulls growths by training with Kami/Popo by becoming stronger than Goku did after 3 years of training. Also Tien hasn't shown anything yet that he's Gotenks level, all he's done so far is get wrecked by Roshi (on the episode that was supposed to be his highlight) and Gohan, and beat some Frieza army fodder. Ok. This is true. But in canon we know he's one of the 10 strongest in the Universe (11 of you include Frieza, which is kinda cheating) and while he did get wrecked by Roshi and Gohan, I just can't see him being LEAGUES behind Roshi. Maybe he is. We'll see in the next 5 episodes probably. --- Tom Bombadil: "you are probably the king of b8 dragonball fans at least!" <cite>EmDubyaSee posted [p:882935955] in So, Goku n... [t:75566379]...</cite> <quote><cite>SSJSephirothGokuX123 posted...</cite> <quote>Super does reference some filler like Gergory and Bulma recognizing Captain Ginyu so it's probably not that far fetched if they did decide to make the Ginyu force fight canon, and the humans already made huge asspulls growths by training with Kami/Popo by becoming stronger than Goku did after 3 years of training. Also Tien hasn't shown anything yet that he's Gotenks level, all he's done so far is get wrecked by Roshi (on the episode that was supposed to be his highlight) and Gohan, and beat some Frieza army fodder.</quote> Ok. This is true. But in canon we know he's one of the 10 strongest in the Universe (11 of you include Frieza, which is kinda cheating) and while he did get wrecked by Roshi and Gohan, I just can't see him being LEAGUES behind Roshi. Maybe he is. We'll see in the next 5 episodes probably.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EmDubyaSee 07/14/17 10:57:03 PM #38:	EmDubyaSee posted... Anagram posted... EmDubyaSee posted... Anagram posted... Does that mean Yajirobe is the weakest Z Fighter? Ok, starting from Yamcha (we know Roshi, Goku, Krillin, Cyborgs Trunks, Goten, Uub etc are much stronger than them) Yamcha Chiaoutzu/Yajorobe/Popo (Really impossible to rank these here, I'll explain why in a few) Korin Chichi Videl Satan Turtle. It is hinted that Maron has 18 and Krillins power too, In which case she'll be higher, but a couple more episodes till we know. And Bra will be stronger than all the by default, but being she is only hours old right is,not yet. Shin may be higher than Yamcha, or #2 on that list. We don't yet know how much stronger Yamcha got. Only that he secretly trained and survived 2 GoDs fighting. Which is one hell of a feat. I didn't realize Yajirobe was even close to Chiaotzu. It's... debatable. I'll try and explain it. I Forgot Ox King there (I usually do) he is either between ChiChi and Videl or Videl and Satan depending on how strong Videl got... --- Tom Bombadil: "you are probably the king of b8 dragonball fans at least!" <cite>EmDubyaSee posted [p:882936047] in So, Goku n... [t:75566379]...</cite> <quote><cite>EmDubyaSee posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Anagram posted...</cite> <quote><cite>EmDubyaSee posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Anagram posted...</cite> <quote>Does that mean Yajirobe is the weakest Z Fighter?</quote> Ok, starting from Yamcha (we know Roshi, Goku, Krillin, Cyborgs Trunks, Goten, Uub etc are much stronger than them) Yamcha Chiaoutzu/Yajorobe/Popo (Really impossible to rank these here, I'll explain why in a few) Korin Chichi Videl Satan Turtle. It is hinted that Maron has 18 and Krillins power too, In which case she'll be higher, but a couple more episodes till we know. And Bra will be stronger than all the by default, but being she is only hours old right is,not yet. Shin may be higher than Yamcha, or #2 on that list. We don't yet know how much stronger Yamcha got. Only that he secretly trained and survived 2 GoDs fighting. Which is one hell of a feat.</quote> I didn't realize Yajirobe was even close to Chiaotzu.</quote> It's... debatable. I'll try and explain it.</quote> I Forgot Ox King there (I usually do) he is either between ChiChi and Videl or Videl and Satan depending on how strong Videl got...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EmDubyaSee 07/14/17 11:01:46 PM #39:	Anagram posted... EmDubyaSee posted... Anagram posted... I also just sort of assumed that Roshi was weak because he was super old. Well, I mean. That's kinda dumb. He was 400 years old at start of DB and by every metric regarded as thennost powerful man in the world. I've never watched any episode of DB except the one where the guy throws a log and stands on it so he can travel quickly. I just assumed that all of the weird characters like the blond chick, the pig guy, Roshi, and the turtle who never did anything were important in DB and remained for the sake of continuity. Sadly Launch doesn't stick around for continuity :( And Tao does the log thing a couple times. AND ITS FUCKING AWESOME!!! --- Tom Bombadil: "you are probably the king of b8 dragonball fans at least!" <cite>EmDubyaSee posted [p:882936288] in So, Goku n... [t:75566379]...</cite> <quote><cite>Anagram posted...</cite> <quote><cite>EmDubyaSee posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Anagram posted...</cite> <quote>I also just sort of assumed that Roshi was weak because he was super old.</quote> Well, I mean. That's kinda dumb. He was 400 years old at start of DB and by every metric regarded as thennost powerful man in the world.</quote> I've never watched any episode of DB except the one where the guy throws a log and stands on it so he can travel quickly. I just assumed that all of the weird characters like the blond chick, the pig guy, Roshi, and the turtle who never did anything were important in DB and remained for the sake of continuity.</quote> Sadly Launch doesn't stick around for continuity :( And Tao does the log thing a couple times. AND ITS FUCKING AWESOME!!!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Team Rocket Elite 07/14/17 11:05:13 PM #40:	Don't the Androids kill Roshi in Future Trunk's timeline? How does that happen if Roshi is way, way stronger than them? --- This was not the best year for my bracket. Congrats to BK_Sheikah00 for winning the BYIG Guru Contest! <cite>Team Rocket Elite posted [p:882936452] in So, Goku n... [t:75566379]...</cite> <quote>Don't the Androids kill Roshi in Future Trunk's timeline? How does that happen if Roshi is way, way stronger than them?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SSJSephirothGokuX123 07/14/17 11:05:32 PM #41:	10th strongest on Earth maybe, Universe probably not since there's aliens like Shisami and Tagoma who are stronger than Perfect Cell (and Ginyu by extent of possession of Tagoma) The reason they didn't scout them out is because Goku and crew probably only contact Namekians and maybe Yadorats and Beerus is too lazy to scout out more members. Tien still hasn't proven himself stronger than his DBZ days yet and is still being treated like fodder, everyone powercreeped but him... --- http://i.imgur.com/MDYrnop.png LOL!!!! I hope that's a joke....names don't get more n00bish than that <cite>SSJSephirothGokuX123 posted [p:882936472] in So, Goku n... [t:75566379]...</cite> <quote>10th strongest on Earth maybe, Universe probably not since there's aliens like Shisami and Tagoma who are stronger than Perfect Cell (and Ginyu by extent of possession of Tagoma) The reason they didn't scout them out is because Goku and crew probably only contact Namekians and maybe Yadorats and Beerus is too lazy to scout out more members. Tien still hasn't proven himself stronger than his DBZ days yet and is still being treated like fodder, everyone powercreeped but him...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EmDubyaSee 07/14/17 11:08:04 PM #42:	Team Rocket Elite posted... Don't the Androids kill Roshi in Future Trunk's timeline? How does that happen if Roshi is way, way stronger than them? No. they don't. They show him in a submarine hiding. --- Tom Bombadil: "you are probably the king of b8 dragonball fans at least!" <cite>EmDubyaSee posted [p:882936583] in So, Goku n... [t:75566379]...</cite> <quote><cite>Team Rocket Elite posted...</cite> <quote>Don't the Androids kill Roshi in Future Trunk's timeline? How does that happen if Roshi is way, way stronger than them?</quote> No. they don't. They show him in a submarine hiding.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Anagram 07/14/17 11:09:11 PM #43:	EmDubyaSee posted... No. they don't. They show him in a submarine hiding. "Well, I could easily kill the androids and save Earth and all of my friends, or I can let everyone die and live in a submarine." --- Not changing this sig until I decide to change this sig. Started: July 6, 2005 <cite>Anagram posted [p:882936635] in So, Goku n... [t:75566379]...</cite> <quote><cite>EmDubyaSee posted...</cite> <quote> No. they don't. They show him in a submarine hiding.</quote> "Well, I could easily kill the androids and save Earth and all of my friends, or I can let everyone die and live in a submarine."</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EmDubyaSee 07/14/17 11:09:50 PM #44:	SSJSephirothGokuX123 posted... 10th strongest on Earth maybe, Universe probably not since there's aliens like Shisami and Tagoma who are stronger than Perfect Cell (and Ginyu by extent of possession of Tagoma) The reason they didn't scout them out is because Goku and crew probably only contact Namekians and maybe Yadorats and Beerus is too lazy to scout out more members. Tien still hasn't proven himself stronger than his DBZ days yet and is still being treated like fodder, everyone powercreeped but him... Well, they are dead. But anyway. It is said in the official material (as in not from Shin or Beerus etc) that these are not just the best team, but in fact 10 strongest in Universe. --- Tom Bombadil: "you are probably the king of b8 dragonball fans at least!" <cite>EmDubyaSee posted [p:882936666] in So, Goku n... [t:75566379]...</cite> <quote><cite>SSJSephirothGokuX123 posted...</cite> <quote>10th strongest on Earth maybe, Universe probably not since there's aliens like Shisami and Tagoma who are stronger than Perfect Cell (and Ginyu by extent of possession of Tagoma) The reason they didn't scout them out is because Goku and crew probably only contact Namekians and maybe Yadorats and Beerus is too lazy to scout out more members. Tien still hasn't proven himself stronger than his DBZ days yet and is still being treated like fodder, everyone powercreeped but him...</quote> Well, they are dead. But anyway. It is said in the official material (as in not from Shin or Beerus etc) that these are not just the best team, but in fact 10 strongest in Universe.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EmDubyaSee 07/14/17 11:11:20 PM #45:	Anagram posted... EmDubyaSee posted... No. they don't. They show him in a submarine hiding. "Well, I could easily kill the androids and save Earth and all of my friends, or I can let everyone die and live in a submarine." Well, all his friends are dead by that point... but I do get what you are saying. That's why I said best explanation is lol Super. --- Tom Bombadil: "you are probably the king of b8 dragonball fans at least!" <cite>EmDubyaSee posted [p:882936735] in So, Goku n... [t:75566379]...</cite> <quote><cite>Anagram posted...</cite> <quote><cite>EmDubyaSee posted...</cite> <quote> No. they don't. They show him in a submarine hiding.</quote> "Well, I could easily kill the androids and save Earth and all of my friends, or I can let everyone die and live in a submarine."</quote> Well, all his friends are dead by that point... but I do get what you are saying. That's why I said best explanation is lol Super.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SSJSephirothGokuX123 07/14/17 11:17:16 PM #46:	Those guys are dead but there's probably more of their species or other races with similar potential or already at that level knowing the powercreep Super is doing. Plus potential mirrors of Hit and Magetta. EmDubyaSee posted... It is said in the official material (as in not from Shin or Beerus etc) that these are not just the best team, but in fact 10 strongest in Universe. I wouldn't put too much faith in that because you'll know they'll introduce new characters in Universe 7 who are stronger. --- http://i.imgur.com/MDYrnop.png LOL!!!! I hope that's a joke....names don't get more n00bish than that <cite>SSJSephirothGokuX123 posted [p:882936978] in So, Goku n... [t:75566379]...</cite> <quote>Those guys are dead but there's probably more of their species or other races with similar potential or already at that level knowing the powercreep Super is doing. Plus potential mirrors of Hit and Magetta. <cite>EmDubyaSee posted...</cite> <quote>It is said in the official material (as in not from Shin or Beerus etc) that these are not just the best team, but in fact 10 strongest in Universe.</quote> I wouldn't put too much faith in that because you'll know they'll introduce new characters in Universe 7 who are stronger.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
swordz9 07/14/17 11:20:02 PM #47:	I think you guys are forgetting something far more important. If Roshi is that strong no way he lets anybody kill all the hot women out there. A hot piece of ass is most important to Roshi <cite>swordz9 posted [p:882937105] in So, Goku n... [t:75566379]...</cite> <quote>I think you guys are forgetting something far more important. If Roshi is that strong no way he lets anybody kill all the hot women out there. A hot piece of ass is most important to Roshi</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EmDubyaSee 07/14/17 11:20:49 PM #48:	SSJSephirothGokuX123 posted... Those guys are dead but there's probably more of their species or other races with similar potential or already at that level knowing the powercreep Super is doing. Plus potential mirrors of Hit and Magetta. EmDubyaSee posted... It is said in the official material (as in not from Shin or Beerus etc) that these are not just the best team, but in fact 10 strongest in Universe. I wouldn't put too much faith in that because you'll know they'll introduce new characters in Universe 7 who are stronger. I actually don't think they will. This arc is leading to the 4 strongest universes after ward (and Frieza again clearly) and the gods. Which will of course be the end. There is no more universal threat from mortals of 7 --- Tom Bombadil: "you are probably the king of b8 dragonball fans at least!" <cite>EmDubyaSee posted [p:882937123] in So, Goku n... [t:75566379]...</cite> <quote><cite>SSJSephirothGokuX123 posted...</cite> <quote>Those guys are dead but there's probably more of their species or other races with similar potential or already at that level knowing the powercreep Super is doing. Plus potential mirrors of Hit and Magetta. <cite>EmDubyaSee posted...</cite> <quote>It is said in the official material (as in not from Shin or Beerus etc) that these are not just the best team, but in fact 10 strongest in Universe.</quote> I wouldn't put too much faith in that because you'll know they'll introduce new characters in Universe 7 who are stronger.</quote> I actually don't think they will. This arc is leading to the 4 strongest universes after ward (and Frieza again clearly) and the gods. Which will of course be the end. There is no more universal threat from mortals of 7</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EmDubyaSee 07/14/17 11:22:36 PM #49:	swordz9 posted... I think you guys are forgetting something far more important. If Roshi is that strong no way he lets anybody kill all the hot women out there. A hot piece of ass is most important to Roshi Not anymore.... Why you ask? Because he had his way with Puar (Yamchas MALE cat like friend) while transformed into a women enough to beat the perversion out of him. And I so wish I was joking. SUPER is weird. --- Tom Bombadil: "you are probably the king of b8 dragonball fans at least!" <cite>EmDubyaSee posted [p:882937198] in So, Goku n... [t:75566379]...</cite> <quote><cite>swordz9 posted...</cite> <quote>I think you guys are forgetting something far more important. If Roshi is that strong no way he lets anybody kill all the hot women out there. A hot piece of ass is most important to Roshi</quote> Not anymore.... Why you ask? Because he had his way with Puar (Yamchas MALE cat like friend) while transformed into a women enough to beat the perversion out of him. And I so wish I was joking. SUPER is weird.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
swordz9 07/14/17 11:23:46 PM #50:	I don't think I want to know any details on that.... <cite>swordz9 posted [p:882937263] in So, Goku n... [t:75566379]...</cite> <quote>I don't think I want to know any details on that....</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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