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Mark_DeRosa
07/13/17 10:32:19 AM
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I mean wat
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PoopPotato
07/13/17 10:32:51 AM
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Did you listen to Joe Rogan's podcast today?
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YourDrunkFather
07/13/17 10:32:57 AM
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Muslims usually aren't white
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COVxy
07/13/17 10:35:20 AM
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We love our strawman!

The funny thing about outgroup homogeneity is that it often produces strawman arguments, which seems to be appealing in metaphor, like you couldn't tell a liberal from a scarecrow because they all look the same to you.
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Cj_WlLL_VVlN
07/13/17 10:36:33 AM
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http://www.recoilweb.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/Jihadist-LBGT-675x450.jpg

Not that I think this is all or even the majority of Muslims. I know many Muslims. Great people. As American as anyone and the vile travel ban is only supported in fly over states that haven't met Muslims but the double standards when it comes to liberals going "its they're religion, or culture or beliefs" is maddening.
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The Admiral
07/13/17 10:37:26 AM
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Liberals have a natural tendency to side with whoever is perceived as the "victim," ignoring most other context. In Western society, Christians are a power group, so they're naturally a target. Muslims are viewed as an oppressed minority group, so they garner sympathy. No other points about the relative actions of those groups are ever considered when assigning victimhood status.
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Antifar
07/13/17 10:38:42 AM
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Context, mainly.

In the U.S., liberals oppose efforts by Christians to enshrine their religious beliefs into law (or private discriminatory efforts) on matters such as abortion, gay marriage, other LGBT issues. They also oppose discrimination against Muslims, who as a group have far less power to shape laws and society.

Things are different, I presume, of secular liberals in, say, Turkey.
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Romulox28
07/13/17 10:40:13 AM
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Antifar posted...
In the U.S., liberals oppose efforts by Christians to enshrine their religious beliefs into law (or private discriminatory efforts) on matters such as abortion, gay marriage, other LGBT issues. They also oppose discrimination against Muslims, who as a group have far less power to shape laws and society.

thank god religious muslims are so accepting of the LGBT lifestyle and abortion
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Giant_Aspirin
07/13/17 10:40:24 AM
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Why do Conservatives love Christians but hate Muslims?
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OpheliaAdenade
07/13/17 10:41:33 AM
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Giant_Aspirin posted...
Why do Conservatives love Christians but hate Muslims?

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Caution999
07/13/17 10:42:46 AM
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Giant_Aspirin posted...
Why do Conservatives love Christians but hate Muslims?


We hate the radicals. Get it straight.
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Antifar
07/13/17 10:42:58 AM
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Romulox28 posted...
thank god religious muslims are so accepting of the LGBT lifestyle and abortion

In this country, they aren't the ones passing laws and creating restrictions on those issues.
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Giant_Aspirin
07/13/17 10:43:29 AM
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Caution999 posted...
Giant_Aspirin posted...
Why do Conservatives love Christians but hate Muslims?


We hate the radicals. Get it straight.


perhaps that same vein of thought also applies to Liberals?
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HypnoCoosh
07/13/17 10:43:39 AM
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Radical Islam /=/ "Muslims"
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Darkman124
07/13/17 10:44:11 AM
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muslims arent trying to strip women of their right to choose whether they have an abortion or not in this country, or prevent homosexuals from marrying in this country, or prevent enforcement of 14th amendment rights legislation ensuring that people cannot be discriminated against

christians are

and not just the radical ones
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OpheliaAdenade
07/13/17 10:44:29 AM
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Caution999 posted...
Giant_Aspirin posted...
Why do Conservatives love Christians but hate Muslims?


We hate the radicals. Get it straight.


And yet you elect radical Christians into office.
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CrimsonAngeI
07/13/17 10:45:04 AM
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I don't hate Muslims or Christians, you both just believe in ridiculous nonsense.
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Drowning__Fish_
07/13/17 10:45:59 AM
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Caution999 posted...
Giant_Aspirin posted...
Why do Conservatives love Christians but hate Muslims?


We hate the radicals. Get it straight.


IDK I live in the midwest, and the attitude is negative even though they've likely never had a reason to dislike the culture/religion.

And there are plenty of "their religion is wrong, and any one of them can be a terrorist" people unfortunately. They came out of the woodwork in the past year because of you-know-who
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The Admiral
07/13/17 10:47:45 AM
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Darkman124 posted...
muslims arent trying to strip women of their right to choose whether they have an abortion or not in this country, or prevent homosexuals from marrying in this country, or prevent enforcement of 14th amendment rights legislation ensuring that people cannot be discriminated against


They're not trying due to lack of organized power, not lack of desire.
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hollow_shrine
07/13/17 10:48:45 AM
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Muslims in the US aren't passing religious freedom laws and weaseling their beliefs into policy to fuck with other people's lives. They're not just choosing to ignore the separation of church and state. Yes, some people do evil things in the name of Islam, but those people are over there and there are fewer of them around to affect me. Meanwhile, people doing evil things in the name of Christianity (and getting away with it) are my literal next door neighbors, and they continue to bully my kids vote against my (and their) interests, and breed uncontrollably because they have religious convictions against contraception and they've not hit their ecosystem's carrying capacity yet.

I'm sure it's happening across the Atlantic too, the biggest predictor of these behaviors is poverty and low education, and that's readily abundant everywhere. But that's across the Atlantic, not here so I don't think about it until something draws my attention to it. I'm reminded of the social costs of fundamentalism every time our state legislature does something stupid.
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OpheliaAdenade
07/13/17 10:50:19 AM
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The Admiral posted...
Darkman124 posted...
muslims arent trying to strip women of their right to choose whether they have an abortion or not in this country, or prevent homosexuals from marrying in this country, or prevent enforcement of 14th amendment rights legislation ensuring that people cannot be discriminated against


They're not trying due to lack of organized power, not lack of desire.


But the Christians do. Hence why democrats are more concerned about them. We already know you right wingers are shitting your pants over all these brown people. You guys have got that covered. But who is going to keep the Christians from mucking everything up? You guys certainly aren't going to.
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Stick_1_2_3
07/13/17 10:50:36 AM
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Hahaha
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creativerealms
07/13/17 10:51:22 AM
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They don't. That is just a lie the right spreads.
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Caution999
07/13/17 10:51:24 AM
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Drowning__Fish_ posted...
Caution999 posted...
Giant_Aspirin posted...
Why do Conservatives love Christians but hate Muslims?


We hate the radicals. Get it straight.


IDK I live in the midwest, and the attitude is negative even though they've likely never had a reason to dislike the culture/religion.

And there are plenty of "their religion is wrong, and any one of them can be a terrorist" people unfortunately. They came out of the woodwork in the past year because of you-know-who



Load of crap. Those people are misinformed - but it's WAYYY more likely due to all of the terrorist attacks at home and abroad that the radical muslims have been responsible for.
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epik_fail1
07/13/17 10:51:34 AM
#28:


"Muslims are not all terrorist, how would you feel if people blamed all christians because 1 christian shot a school?"

-normal person

"omg why do you GENERALISE ABOUT ALL CHRISTIANS AND WANT TO DO A WHITE GENOCIDE?"

-Trump supporters.
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Sayoria
07/13/17 10:51:38 AM
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I think many Christians are ignorant. Not to say that the left isn't either, but fuck, live and let live. This whole "Omg, you are going to Hell and I am going to chastise you for living your life against how I want you to" is ridiculous.
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The Admiral
07/13/17 10:52:36 AM
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OpheliaAdenade posted...
The Admiral posted...
Darkman124 posted...
muslims arent trying to strip women of their right to choose whether they have an abortion or not in this country, or prevent homosexuals from marrying in this country, or prevent enforcement of 14th amendment rights legislation ensuring that people cannot be discriminated against


They're not trying due to lack of organized power, not lack of desire.


But the Christians do. Hence why democrats are more concerned about them. We already know you right wingers are shitting your pants over all these brown people. You guys have got that covered. But who is going to keep the Christians from mucking everything up? You guys certainly aren't going to.


Still can't make a single argument without crying racism. Good to see the impotent tactics from 2016 are still in use.
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E32005
07/13/17 10:52:53 AM
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People trying to answer a troll topic
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gatorsPENSbucs
07/13/17 10:53:06 AM
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Darkman124
07/13/17 10:53:07 AM
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The Admiral posted...

They're not trying due to lack of organized power, not lack of desire.


and if they ever have organized power we'll oppose them too

at least our reasons are political.
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bevan306
07/13/17 10:53:18 AM
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I love muslims cause I rarely have to hear or read their dumb opinions. Christians on the other hand
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Paragon21XX
07/13/17 10:53:29 AM
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OpheliaAdenade posted...
Caution999 posted...
Giant_Aspirin posted...
Why do Conservatives love Christians but hate Muslims?


We hate the radicals. Get it straight.


And yet you elect radical Christians into office.

I'm sure anyone that's not just a Christian in name only (aka "cultural Christian" or XINO) seems radical to you.
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Caution999
07/13/17 10:53:48 AM
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epik_fail1 posted...
"Muslims are not all terrorist, how would you feel if people blamed all christians because 1 christian shot a school?"

-normal person

"omg why do you GENERALISE ABOUT ALL CHRISTIANS AND WANT TO DO A WHITE GENOCIDE?"

-Trump supporters.



Hate to break it to you, but to get a fair comparison, you'd have to say "if 5,000 Christians shot up schools"

And...here we go...facts are racist. I know. I'm sorry.
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Giant_Aspirin
07/13/17 10:55:41 AM
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The Admiral posted...
Darkman124 posted...
muslims arent trying to strip women of their right to choose whether they have an abortion or not in this country, or prevent homosexuals from marrying in this country, or prevent enforcement of 14th amendment rights legislation ensuring that people cannot be discriminated against


They're not trying due to lack of organized power, not lack of desire.


citation needed

honestly, though, do you have any sort of evidence to support this claim, or are you just widely speculating based on your 'hunches' biases?
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Kavatar
07/13/17 10:56:13 AM
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Why do conservatives love straw men?
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The Eternal Flame
07/13/17 10:57:17 AM
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Because they're generally non-white. This is the real reason and we all know it. It allows them to tie "racism" to the people who oppose Islam. It's bullshit.

This is the reason I feel so detached from liberalism thesedays. I get that in America, Muslims make up a tiny percentage of the population and have no influence, but as was stated earlier, the only reason they're benign there is because of lack of numbers/power, not lack of desire. They behave very differently in Europe (and even worse in their own countries) where they have the numbers to do what they want (and the natives of these countries keep their heads in the sand because they don't want to look "racist" or "Islamophobic"). Absolutely tragic.
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OpheliaAdenade
07/13/17 10:57:18 AM
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The Admiral posted...
Still can't make a single argument without crying racism. Good to see the impotent tactics from 2016 are still in use.


I'm not calling you guys racist. I'm just saying that you guys are more concerned about radical Islamic terrorism than the left is. :o What I'm saying is that democrats are just focused on another problem, because the republicans sure as hell aren't going to try and reign in crazy Christians. Hell, a good part of the party itself is made up of those crazy evangelicals.
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Steve Nick
07/13/17 10:57:47 AM
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Paragon21XX posted...
OpheliaAdenade posted...
Caution999 posted...
Giant_Aspirin posted...
Why do Conservatives love Christians but hate Muslims?


We hate the radicals. Get it straight.


And yet you elect radical Christians into office.

I'm sure anyone that's not just a Christian in name only (aka "cultural Christian" or XINO) seems radical to you.


He likes Christians like Hillary Clinton. The kind that just namedrop "God" to bring in a few votes.
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Caution999
07/13/17 10:59:07 AM
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Islamist_terrorist_attacks

I mean, it's not like they happen all the time...it's just a once in a while...

Oh.



OHH.


Oh.
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Antifar
07/13/17 10:59:55 AM
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The Eternal Flame posted...
This is the reason I feel so detached from liberalism thesedays. I get that in America, Muslims make up a tiny percentage of the population and have no influence, but as was stated earlier, the only reason they're benign there is because of lack of numbers/power, not lack of desire.

There are two Muslim men in congress, and both are pro-choice, pro-LGBT Democrats
http://www.ontheissues.org/IN/Andre_Carson.htm
http://www.ontheissues.org/House/Keith_Ellison_Abortion.htm
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Mark_DeRosa
07/13/17 11:00:22 AM
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Liberals hate this country so much. Imagine if they had to live in the middle East.

Complaining about Trump saying mean things. Yeah go get beheaded for being gay out there
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Samaellives91
07/13/17 11:00:23 AM
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They are scared to offend the muslims in case they decide they decide to bomb them. Christians don't suicide bomb for the most part, save for some fringe extremist groups in america.
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Antifar
07/13/17 11:01:14 AM
#47:


Mark_DeRosa posted...
Liberals hate this country so much. Imagine if they had to live in the middle East.

Complaining about Trump saying mean things. Yeah go get beheaded for being gay out there

If you love America, hold it to a higher standard than "we're better than Saudi Arabia." If that's the only bar we can clear, than the country should be hated.
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Giant_Aspirin
07/13/17 11:01:16 AM
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Asherlee10 posted...
Kavatar posted...
Why do conservatives love straw men?


It isn't just conservatives. People on both sides love confirmation bias. This is just the case of a conservative confirming his bias.


so basically Kavatar's own confirmation bias caused that misunderstanding. funny how that works
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OpheliaAdenade
07/13/17 11:01:34 AM
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The only Christians that I don't like are the ones who try to use their scripture as a basis for legislature. Anyone who respects the constitution should feel the same.

Yet republicans seem completely okay with that. I guess the only part of the constitution they care about is the second amendment. :v
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pikachupwnage
07/13/17 11:01:52 AM
#50:


Drowning__Fish_ posted...
Caution999 posted...
Giant_Aspirin posted...
Why do Conservatives love Christians but hate Muslims?


We hate the radicals. Get it straight.


IDK I live in the midwest, and the attitude is negative even though they've likely never had a reason to dislike the culture/religion.

And there are plenty of "their religion is wrong, and any one of them can be a terrorist" people unfortunately. They came out of the woodwork in the past year because of you-know-who


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GOOMFalse
07/13/17 11:13:03 AM
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I wonder if the muslim majority version of gamefaqs has equivalent shitposters

"Why do the liberals hate muslims but love christians? They keep trying to help the minority christians"
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