Current Events > Bill Burr summed my feelings about "white privilege" up pretty well

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Solid Snake07
07/07/17 4:17:04 AM
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It was one of his appearances on the Joe Rogan podcast, and Bill was talking about making something of yourself and not making excuses for why you fail. and Joe threw something out along the lines of pointing out that some people are born into a better situation and made the analogy of saying that some people are born with pocket aces.

And Bill said something like "Yeah, but the guy with pocket aces doesn't give a shit, and he's never going to"

Wise words, and ones I don't think I'll ever forget.
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Delirious_Beard
07/07/17 4:18:08 AM
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i don't get it
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Dash_Harber
07/07/17 4:20:08 AM
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The concept of "white priviledge" is not, "everyone should recognize they are priviledged and feel bad about it" the point is, "everyone should recognize the system may be unfair and that if we work together we can improve it". You know, or fucking just for people to have some god damn empathy.
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I4NRulez
07/07/17 4:20:44 AM
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Delirious_Beard posted...
i don't get it


He's saying that it exist but you can't use it as an excuse not to be something.

I agree with him, the only issue for me is the white people that get all upset about it and refuse to say it exist.
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DrizztLink
07/07/17 4:28:34 AM
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Dash_Harber posted...
The concept of "white priviledge" is not, "everyone should recognize they are priviledged and feel bad about it" the point is, "everyone should recognize the system may be unfair and that if we work together we can improve it". You know, or fucking just for people to have some god damn empathy.

Yes.

I4NRulez posted...
I agree with him, the only issue for me is the white people that get all upset about it and refuse to say it exist.

Yes.

It's like shouting at people lower on the rock climb because you think gravity is SJW horseshit.
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Drunken_Idiot
07/07/17 4:32:26 AM
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White privilege doesn't exist. There are numerous underlying factors that contribute to the issue of the system. There is no one specific thing. It is a racial saying that incorrectly identifies the problem, and further divides the gap between people period because of the need to make it about race.
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DrizztLink
07/07/17 4:47:11 AM
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Drunken_Idiot posted...
White privilege doesn't exist. There are numerous underlying factors that contribute to the issue of the system. There is no one specific thing. It is a racial saying that incorrectly identifies the problem, and further divides the gap between people period because of the need to make it about race.

Drunken_Idiot posted...
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cjsdowg
07/07/17 5:37:21 AM
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I don't understand why people get so upset when you bring up this thing exist. Besides maybe the Super crazy people out there. No one is suggesting white people should feel shamed for it, no one is saying white people don't have to work for anything .. All people are saying is some people are born into better situations.


I am a person of normal height, I have a privilege that a little person does not. The world is built for me, I can pick stuff off of the top shelf at Walmart, I can go on rides, I can drive a motorcycle.ect There is nothing to be shamed about when I say I can do those things. Privilege isn't something to should feel bad about.
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_Goggalor_
07/07/17 5:45:18 AM
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Being able to do something someone else cannot is not always a "privilege".
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FighterStreet
07/07/17 6:01:32 AM
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Dash_Harber posted...
The concept of "white priviledge" is not, "everyone should recognize they are priviledged and feel bad about it" the point is, "everyone should recognize the system may be unfair and that if we work together we can improve it". You know, or fucking just for people to have some god damn empathy.

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donkeyjack
07/07/17 6:08:05 AM
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Asians debunks white privilege
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Solid Snake07
07/08/17 1:42:24 PM
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cjsdowg posted...
I don't understand why people get so upset when you bring up this thing exist. Besides maybe the Super crazy people out there. No one is suggesting white people should feel shamed for it, no one is saying white people don't have to work for anything .. All people are saying is some people are born into better situations.


I am a person of normal height, I have a privilege that a little person does not. The world is built for me, I can pick stuff off of the top shelf at Walmart, I can go on rides, I can drive a motorcycle.ect There is nothing to be shamed about when I say I can do those things. Privilege isn't something to should feel bad about.



I think the people who typically get upset about it are lower class white people who don't know what the fuck you're talking about, since their essentially in the same boat as poor minorities.
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Mal_Fet
07/08/17 1:45:09 PM
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Dash_Harber posted...
The concept of "white priviledge" is not, "everyone should recognize they are priviledged and feel bad about it" the point is, "everyone should recognize the system may be unfair and that if we work together we can improve it".

It's too bad that regressives' idea of "improvement" invariably involves racial discrimination.
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Bio1590
07/08/17 2:00:14 PM
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Black dudes get shot while driving for seemingly no reason while white girls post snapchat stories posing with cops after getting pulled over for driving 20+ miles over the speed limit.
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Solid Snake07
07/08/17 2:02:25 PM
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Bio1590 posted...
Black dudes get shot while driving for seemingly no reason while white girls post snapchat stories posing with cops after getting pulled over for driving 20+ miles over the speed limit.



rednecks and white trash have a notoriously bad relationship with the cops as well.
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Mal_Fet
07/08/17 2:03:24 PM
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Bio1590 posted...
Black dudes get shot while driving for seemingly no reason

Almost never happens.
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Megaman50100
07/08/17 2:06:29 PM
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white privilege doesn't exist it is just class privilege.
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KiwiTerraRizing
07/08/17 2:07:32 PM
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Dash_Harber posted...
The concept of "white priviledge" is not, "everyone should recognize they are priviledged and feel bad about it" the point is, "everyone should recognize the system may be unfair and that if we work together we can improve it". You know, or fucking just for people to have some god damn empathy.


Well said
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KiwiTerraRizing
07/08/17 2:08:45 PM
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Mal_Fet posted...
Dash_Harber posted...
The concept of "white priviledge" is not, "everyone should recognize they are priviledged and feel bad about it" the point is, "everyone should recognize the system may be unfair and that if we work together we can improve it".

It's too bad that regressives' idea of "improvement" invariably involves racial discrimination.


Oh my fucking god, can you stop?
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Manocheese
07/08/17 2:14:16 PM
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The same people who get mad when you say that white privilege doesn't exist are the people who get furious when you say that black privilege exists.
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Annihilated
07/08/17 2:16:06 PM
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KiwiTerraRizing posted...
Dash_Harber posted...
The concept of "white priviledge" is not, "everyone should recognize they are priviledged and feel bad about it" the point is, "everyone should recognize the system may be unfair and that if we work together we can improve it". You know, or fucking just for people to have some god damn empathy.


Well said


He literally can't spell "privilege." LOL

KiwiTerraRizing posted...
Oh my fucking god, can you stop?


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Mal_Fet
07/08/17 2:22:27 PM
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KiwiTerraRizing posted...
Mal_Fet posted...
Dash_Harber posted...
The concept of "white priviledge" is not, "everyone should recognize they are priviledged and feel bad about it" the point is, "everyone should recognize the system may be unfair and that if we work together we can improve it".

It's too bad that regressives' idea of "improvement" invariably involves racial discrimination.


Oh my fucking god, can you stop?

How bout no
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Omnislasher
07/08/17 2:28:06 PM
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"it's right to not care about other people"
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Mal_Fet
07/08/17 2:30:06 PM
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Omnislasher posted...
"it's right to not care about other people"

Why is not accepting a racist narrative not caring

How come no one whines about "two parent privilege" where having two parents instead of one is a WAY better benefit in life than simply being white?
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Omnislasher
07/08/17 2:34:45 PM
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Mal_Fet posted...
"it's right to not care about other people"
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Mal_Fet
07/08/17 2:37:59 PM
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Omnislasher posted...
Mal_Fet posted...
"it's right to not care about other people"

If you actually cared about people youd make a bigger deal about two-parent families than being white.
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Polycosm
07/08/17 2:45:07 PM
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"White privilege" is due for a name change, imho.

First of all, nobody feels privileged when real wages have been stagnant for 50 years. Second, it's not actually privilege-- it's just the way that any normal human being ought to be treated, with dignity and respect. White people don't need to give up our so-called privilege... rather, we need to demand that society stop treating minority populations as sub-human.

It's a minor semantic argument perhaps, but a less pejorative term would help sell the message.
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Annihilated
07/08/17 2:50:06 PM
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Polycosm posted...
First of all, nobody feels privileged when real wages have been stagnant for 50 years. Second, it's not actually privilege-- it's just the way that any normal human being ought to be treated, with dignity and respect. White people don't need to give up our so-called privilege... rather, we need to demand that society stop treating minority populations as sub-human.


That's actually perfectly in line with the leftist agenda, by tearing down relatively successful people to achieve equality. "White privilege" is suitably named for the message and the intent, which is that white people are treated too humanely.
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cjsdowg
07/09/17 7:47:44 AM
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Manocheese posted...
The same people who get mad when you say that white privilege doesn't exist are the people who get furious when you say that black privilege exists.


So explain black privilege too me.
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_Goggalor_
07/09/17 7:52:16 AM
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What about tall privilege, or women's privilege, or athletic privilege? I can't dunk a basketball on a regulation court, or become pregnant and have a child. I mean, privilege is just being able to do something someone else cannot, right?
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Blue_Dream87
07/09/17 7:56:56 AM
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cjsdowg posted...
Manocheese posted...
The same people who get mad when you say that white privilege doesn't exist are the people who get furious when you say that black privilege exists.


So explain black privilege too me.


A wider vocabulary by at least 1 word
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Mal_Fet
07/09/17 9:29:16 AM
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cjsdowg posted...
Manocheese posted...
The same people who get mad when you say that white privilege doesn't exist are the people who get furious when you say that black privilege exists.


So explain black privilege too me.

Lower standards for college admission
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cjsdowg
07/09/17 9:36:21 AM
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Mal_Fet posted...

Lower standards for college admission


http://archive.boston.com/news/globe/editorial_opinion/oped/articles/2007/09/28/at_the_elite_colleges___dim_white_kids/
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Mal_Fet
07/09/17 10:04:52 AM
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cjsdowg posted...
Mal_Fet posted...

Lower standards for college admission


http://archive.boston.com/news/globe/editorial_opinion/oped/articles/2007/09/28/at_the_elite_colleges___dim_white_kids/

Rich privilege exists. So what?

Still means that black privilege gives you an advantage in admission over everyone else who doesn't donate huge sums of money to the college.
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Medz2017
07/09/17 10:11:12 AM
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The privilege of being called a racist by someone who knows nothing about you except for the color of your skin.
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Mal_Fet
07/09/17 10:36:25 AM
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CrimsonRage posted...
Are you really arguing black privilege is a thing

If white privilege is a thing because band aids look more like white skin, then black privilege is most definitely a thing when you get preferential treatment in college admissions just for being black.
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Ammonitida
07/09/17 10:37:57 AM
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Bio1590 posted...
Black dudes get shot while driving for seemingly no reason while white girls post snapchat stories posing with cops after getting pulled over for driving 20+ miles over the speed limit.


This is utter garbage. Yet typical of the racist "white privilege" exists crowd.
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Gorbachev
07/09/17 10:39:07 AM
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Ammonitida posted...
This is utter garbage. Yet typical of the racist "white privilege" exists crowd.

does he have an actual study or is he just using anecdotes
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Ammonitida
07/09/17 10:41:29 AM
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Polycosm posted...
rather, we need to demand that society stop treating minority populations as sub-human.


Wow. Imagine actually believing that.
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Mal_Fet
07/09/17 10:43:50 AM
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Ammonitida posted...
Polycosm posted...
rather, we need to demand that society stop treating minority populations as sub-human.


Wow. Imagine actually believing that.

It is apparently subhuman to get shot just because you were reaching for a gun while a police officer was telling you not to.
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Milkman5
07/09/17 10:48:17 AM
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White Privilege is so stupid.

The only study people use to prove it are average incomes, but white people don't even have the highest average income in America

and using that as a metric is implying that East Asians, Indians, Cubans etc have a higher income because the system selects them based on their race,

but the reality is more complicated than that. Higher income is correlated with IQ, work ethic etc

and all those groups that get more money than Whites, have higher IQs, work harder and that almost applies to every single group part of the statistic

Show me a group that makes less money in America than another group with a higher IQ and higher work ethic.


Then maybe I'll be convinced the system is selecting against them based on race
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Ammonitida
07/09/17 10:48:45 AM
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Gorbachev posted...
Ammonitida posted...
This is utter garbage. Yet typical of the racist "white privilege" exists crowd.

does he have an actual study or is he just using anecdotes


Just anecdotes. That's all they have.

I can do it in reverse.

This racist black man rams his car into three cops intending to kill them. Is only arrested.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/bail-man-accused-driving-phoenix-cops/story?id=42080597

While this white man is shot dead by a racist white cop while he begs for his life.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/unarmed-man-killed-arizona-cried-begged-life-article-1.2582759


As for academic studies on the issue.

http://www.slguardian.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/Prev-2016-Miller-injury_US_POLICE.pdf

The above study cites several other studies in addition to its own original research. They're meta analysis dealing with "driving while black" and police brutality.

https://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/13/upshot/roland-fryer-answers-reader-questions-about-his-police-force-study.html?_r=0
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Etherealfare
07/09/17 10:52:51 AM
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As a white male: White priviledge exists. I get it. Hell, I've been through the criminal justice system once or twice and been to court once or twice. It just...does. It's like The Matrix, you don't sit there and see it. There are no signs on the wall of the courtroom that says "Whites on the left, blacks on the right" or anything. It's just there. Society pressures it into us very early. It's in the people; the politicians, the judges, the cops, the lady at the front desk of the DMV, everyone.

My problem is with people "like me" (white males) who argue with me that it doesn't exist and that their lives are just as hard or unfair as anyones in the US.
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coolboy11
07/09/17 10:52:56 AM
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I find it weird to call it "privilege" when it is really a system that favors those who are either outright of European descent, closely allied with those who are of European descent in America, or seen as "honorary" White folk is it privelge when it is a system designed to dilute non white power most of the time?
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Etherealfare
07/09/17 10:54:18 AM
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s it privelge when it is a system designed to dilute non white power most of the time?

Yes
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Ammonitida
07/09/17 10:54:51 AM
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Mal_Fet
07/09/17 10:55:29 AM
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Etherealfare posted...
As a white male: White priviledge exists. I get it. Hell, I've been through the criminal justice system once or twice and been to court once or twice. It just...does. It's like The Matrix, you don't sit there and see it. There are no signs on the wall of the courtroom that says "Whites on the left, blacks on the right" or anything. It's just there. Society pressures it into us very early. It's in the people; the politicians, the judges, the cops, the lady at the front desk of the DMV, everyone.

My problem is with people "like me" (white males) who argue with me that it doesn't exist and that their lives are just as hard or unfair as anyones in the US.

If white privilege isn't universal to all white people then how is it "white" privilege?
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Ammonitida
07/09/17 10:56:54 AM
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Etherealfare posted...
As a white male: White priviledge exists. I get it. Hell, I've been through the criminal justice system once or twice and been to court once or twice. It just...does. It's like The Matrix, you don't sit there and see it. There are no signs on the wall of the courtroom that says "Whites on the left, blacks on the right" or anything. It's just there. Society pressures it into us very early. It's in the people; the politicians, the judges, the cops, the lady at the front desk of the DMV, everyone.

My problem is with people "like me" (white males) who argue with me that it doesn't exist and that their lives are just as hard or unfair as anyones in the US.


Nice evidence there, pal. "it just does"

I'll cite the most comprehensive study on sentencing disparities in the criminal justice system.

http://www.yalelawjournal.org/article/mandatory-sentencing-and-racial-disparity-assessing-the-role-of-prosecutors-and-the-effects-of-booker
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Etherealfare
07/09/17 11:02:19 AM
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If white privilege isn't universal to all white people then how is it "white" privilege?


It's universal to all white people with manners who act with some form of respect towards authority/the system.
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