Current Events > Baby becomes world's first to have gender marked as "Unknown".

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Solar_Crimson
07/03/17 10:58:46 PM
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https://uk.news.yahoo.com/baby-becomes-worlds-first-gender-marked-unknown-090706538.html

An eight-month-old baby is possibly the first person in the world to have their gender marked as ‘unknown’ on their health card.

Searyl Atli’s gender has marked with a ‘U’ on her Canadian health card, standing for ‘undetermined’ or ‘unassigned’.

The baby’s parent, Kori Doty, does not identify as male or female and prefers to use the pronoun ‘they’, and wants to raise Searyl’s genderless until the baby has a “sense of self and command of vocabulary to tell me who they are”.

Doty wants to keep Searyl’s gender off of all official records until that day, according to CBC.

They said: “I’m recognising them as a baby and trying to give them all the love and support to be the most whole person that they can be outside of the restrictions that come with the boy box and the girl box.”

British Columbia (BC) has so far refused Doty’s request to have Searyl’s birth certificate issued without a gender marker.

Doty, along with the British Columbia Human Rights Tribunal argue that the omission of gender should apply to all government documents for everyone in BC and Canada.

Provinces including Ontario are reviewing their policies and may include a non-bonar gender option on official documents in the future.

Doty believes that people who want to change their gender after in life have to go through a difficult process and instead wants a third option from birth.

They added: “When I was born, doctors looked at my genitals and made assumptions about who I would be, and those assignments followed me and followed my identification throughout my life.

“Those assumptions were incorrect, and I ended up having to do a lot of adjustments since then.”

Honestly, while I identify more with the left on social issues, I feel like this is getting out of control.
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dave_is_slick
07/03/17 11:01:09 PM
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Gotta love the morons who use their kids to show off how "progressive" they are.
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Medussa
07/03/17 11:01:25 PM
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I've asked this here before, getting plenty of troll and few answers: Why does sex need to be a legal concept?
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gunplagirl
07/03/17 11:01:44 PM
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Good. Let the child decide for themselves instead of be forced into a role.
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dave_is_slick
07/03/17 11:02:06 PM
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Medussa posted...
I've asked this here before, getting plenty of troll and few answers: Why does sex need to be a legal concept?

Health.
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Window_Starer
07/03/17 11:02:19 PM
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Don't they specify the sex on birth certificates?
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dave_is_slick
07/03/17 11:02:32 PM
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gunplagirl posted...
Good. Let the child decide for themselves instead of be forced into a role.

*sigh*
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NathanX95
07/03/17 11:03:55 PM
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That's right about how I expected the mother/father or whatever the fuck that thing is to look like. This is one serious mental illness and the fact that some people actually view this as "progressive" is fucked up in of itself.
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Wetterdew
07/03/17 11:03:57 PM
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There have been many babies born with indeterminate sex. Those are the cases where "unknown" should be used. Not here IMO. Unless the baby's sex is actually ambiguous, there's no real need to mark it as unknown.
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LinksLiege
07/03/17 11:04:03 PM
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I thought such forms listed sex, not gender.
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Medussa
07/03/17 11:04:03 PM
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dave_is_slick posted...
Medussa posted...
I've asked this here before, getting plenty of troll and few answers: Why does sex need to be a legal concept?

Health.


as in medical care? doctors can still ask, when it's necessary.
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muchdran
07/03/17 11:04:27 PM
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Liberals .
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billcom6
07/03/17 11:05:26 PM
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sex =/= gender

I see no problem with it.
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NathanX95
07/03/17 11:05:32 PM
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gunplagirl posted...
Good. Let the child decide for themselves instead of be forced into a role.


Or you know, if it's born with a penis mark it down as male and if it has a vagina mark it down as female. You're not helping nor accomplishing anything by encouraging these mental people to fuck up the lives of their children.
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dave_is_slick
07/03/17 11:05:47 PM
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Medussa posted...
dave_is_slick posted...
Medussa posted...
I've asked this here before, getting plenty of troll and few answers: Why does sex need to be a legal concept?

Health.


as in medical care? doctors can still ask, when it's necessary.

Why should they even be asking?
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awesome999
07/03/17 11:06:01 PM
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Ugh this is what give us a bad name

Dumbasses
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iron jojo
07/03/17 11:06:15 PM
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Oh god they're breeding
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marc55
07/03/17 11:06:53 PM
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the card says sex not gender

stupid parent cant tell the difference
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Medussa
07/03/17 11:07:36 PM
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dave_is_slick posted...
Medussa posted...
dave_is_slick posted...
Medussa posted...
I've asked this here before, getting plenty of troll and few answers: Why does sex need to be a legal concept?

Health.


as in medical care? doctors can still ask, when it's necessary.

Why should they even be asking?


I'm not playing this game. if you have a point, make it.
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Paragon21XX
07/03/17 11:07:40 PM
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LinksLiege posted...
I thought such forms listed sex, not gender.

It does, but the mother isn't exactly attached to reality.
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KillerKhan420
07/03/17 11:07:50 PM
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Damn that's messed up way to bring a child into the world. Let the kid decide? What the FUCK?
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billcom6
07/03/17 11:08:51 PM
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Also how do we know this is the first time in the world?
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megamanfreakXD
07/03/17 11:09:18 PM
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Medussa posted...
dave_is_slick posted...
Medussa posted...
I've asked this here before, getting plenty of troll and few answers: Why does sex need to be a legal concept?

Health.


as in medical care? doctors can still ask, when it's necessary.

Because you can get certain diseases that are sex-exclusive


If a person somehow calls himself a male and the person is in fact a female, I would have missed something like ectopic pregnancy
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QuantumScript
07/03/17 11:09:58 PM
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not surprised that the parent is an insane single parent
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Solar_Crimson
07/03/17 11:10:07 PM
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Mist_Turnips posted...
That kid needs to get bullied, big time.

Why should the kid pay for the parent's actions?
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dave_is_slick
07/03/17 11:11:55 PM
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Medussa posted...
I'm not playing this game. if you have a point, make it.

What game? That was a serious question dude.
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apocalyptic_4
07/03/17 11:12:13 PM
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Offworlder1
07/03/17 11:16:22 PM
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That poor child, and is that a cross dressing man with breast implants ?

A baby's sex needs to be known so they can treat it properly, some sicknesses or diseased only affect a boy or girl. This is horrible parenting and that baby needs to be properly cared for not used for this person's agenda.
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Dragonblade01
07/03/17 11:16:31 PM
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While I do believe in the legitimacy of transgenders, I don't really see the purpose of this. It seems perfectly acceptable to me to assign sex based on anatomical and/or genetic features and then to assign the opposite as transgender should that be discovered later in life. After all, the traditional way of doing it will still be right most of the time.

Of course, eventually, we may be able to understand more exactly what's happening in the brains of transgenders. And, if such discoveries can then be detected in the brain at the time of birth (or possibly even before birth), the problem will be solved.
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DocileOrangeCup
07/03/17 11:17:08 PM
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dave_is_slick posted...
Gotta love the morons who use their kids to show off how "progressive" they are.

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Banana_Cyanide
07/03/17 11:17:53 PM
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gunplagirl posted...
Good. Let the child decide for themselves instead of be forced into a role.

*agitated skeleton noises*
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MakoReizei
07/03/17 11:17:57 PM
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itachi15243
07/03/17 11:18:19 PM
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Man, when that kid starts school it's going to be rough.

How do you even take care of a kid like like that? How do you cut their hair even?
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billcom6
07/03/17 11:18:57 PM
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itachi15243 posted...
Man, when that kid starts school it's going to be rough.

How do you even take care of a kid like like that? How do you cut their hair even?


"How do you want your hair cut?"
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Pastryarchy
07/03/17 11:19:14 PM
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This is basically a social experiment using a developing baby.

I'm curious how emotionally well adjusted the child will turn out according to expert standards of stable behavior.
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Dragonblade01
07/03/17 11:19:26 PM
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Offworlder1 posted...
A baby's sex needs to be known so they can treat it properly, some sicknesses or diseased only affect a boy or girl. This is horrible parenting and that baby needs to be properly cared for not used for this person's agenda.

I mean, to be fair, the decision to leave the gender unknown won't actually effect this. The doctors will be able to tell by looking at the child whether it is physically a boy or a girl regardless.
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QuantumScript
07/03/17 11:22:03 PM
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who is gunplagirl?
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XxKrazyChaosxX
07/03/17 11:25:19 PM
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We're really going to end up like that movie idiocracy aren't we?
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itachi15243
07/03/17 11:26:32 PM
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billcom6 posted...
itachi15243 posted...
Man, when that kid starts school it's going to be rough.

How do you even take care of a kid like like that? How do you cut their hair even?


"How do you want your hair cut?"


So you just don't cut your kids hair until they've seen enough hair cuts to make an informed decision? What happens if they're a girl and ask for a buzz cut, then realize that they want long pretty hair because they wanna be like all the other girls?

It's just a huge cluster fuck and this person doesn't seem ready, capable or even sane
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NathanX95
07/03/17 11:26:46 PM
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QuantumScript posted...
who is gunplagirl?

One of the worst, if not the worst poster on the site. Constant shit posting and opinions so insanse, most of the people on the people on the left disagrees with him/her.
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DocileOrangeCup
07/03/17 11:27:37 PM
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QuantumScript posted...
who is gunplagirl?

they were negi magician i think. not really worth responding to when it comes to political stuff
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GiftedACIII
07/03/17 11:31:28 PM
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QuantumScript posted...
who is gunplagirl?

Negi_Magician who really dropped off the deep end sometime last year.
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QuantumScript
07/03/17 11:33:09 PM
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holy fuck when did negi lose his mind this fucking hard

what the fuck happened
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Banana_Cyanide
07/03/17 11:33:56 PM
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GiftedACIII posted...
Negi_Magician who really dropped off the deep end sometime last year.

I wouldn't be surprised if she turned out to be legitimately mentally ill.
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EyeWontBeFooled
07/03/17 11:34:39 PM
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dave_is_slick posted...
Gotta love the morons who use their kids to show off how "progressive" they are.

Exactly. Way to live vicariously through your kid. Make my political statements to the world for me, offspring!
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Ultima Dragon
07/03/17 11:38:50 PM
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Shit like this is borderline child abuse. I'd say there's no way the kid grows up to be well-adjusted.
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Vicious_Dios
07/03/17 11:42:32 PM
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Solar_Crimson posted...

Honestly, while I identify more with the left on social issues, I feel like this is getting out of control.


"getting"
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Hop103
07/03/17 11:42:49 PM
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Let the child determine this when they get older, this action is nothing but mental illness.
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