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StealThisSheen 07/05/17 1:34:51 AM #304: |
UltimaterializerX posted...
CNN reserves the right to publish his identity should any of that change. I mean, to be perfectly fair, are they saying "Do what we say or we'll put your information out there," or are they saying "If you do stupid shit that becomes newsworthy again, we'll call you out by name next time?" Because the first is absolutely wrong, yes, but it also suggests they're controlling him right now, from the apology to deleting his posts. Whereas the former is basically just a warning and seems fair enough, since... If he did something to make the news again, then it'd make sense to put his name out there. We honestly have no idea of knowing, which is why I think it's a bit silly to jump to conclusions. --- Seplito Nash, Smelling Like the Vault since 1996 Step FOUR! Get Paid! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Corrik 07/05/17 1:35:12 AM #305: |
Lol at least most of twitter seems to be able to put it together.
"CNN can threaten to dox private citizens' information, but won't reveal their anonymous sources in news tips. #CNNBlackMail" --- LoL ID = imajericho XBL GT = Corrik ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LapisLazuli 07/05/17 1:35:18 AM #306: |
Holy fucking shit you people are shitting news outlet for doing the primary job of a news outlet? Do you go to a sandwhich shop and yell at them for making sandwhiches? This is somehow the dumbest tirade you people have gone on yet. Everything about it reads like people have nabbed your accounts and are parodying you.
A news outlet contacting someone involved in a story to comment about it is bullying or blackmail. Holy.....I can't even comprehend what you're going for with this one. --- MWC: I've made the stupidest post possible. Ulti: Hold my beer. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LordoftheMorons 07/05/17 1:35:55 AM #307: |
Corrik posted...
the literal left is defending the literal left news agency ????? --- Congrats to BKSheikah for winning the BYIG Guru Challenge! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MoogleKupo141 07/05/17 1:36:26 AM #308: |
UltimaterializerX posted...
LordoftheMorons posted...standard journalistic practice hypothetical maybe 15 year-old --- For your BK_Sheikah00. At least Kupo has class and doesn't MESSAGE the people -Dr Pizza ... Copied to Clipboard!
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lordloki12 07/05/17 1:36:27 AM #309: |
Corrik posted...
lordloki12 posted...Wanglicious posted...lordloki12 posted... Yeah so no matter what he does in the future they are supposed to bind themselves to never reporting on him by his real name? So if someday he runs for congress, kills somebody, or invents the next world changing product CNN should always refer to him by his reddit handle? --- [ 1 ] [ 10 ] [ 7 ] [ 12 ] [ 9 ] [ 19 ] [ 5 ] ... Copied to Clipboard!
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XIII_rocks 07/05/17 1:37:07 AM #310: |
Notably calling him a man in that article
Also since I'm doing this let's all take note of Ulti repeatedly hammering home the "15 year old" thing when he acknowledged it might not be true, and consider what he is trying to achieve by using that repetition. --- Such a lust for revenge ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Wanglicious 07/05/17 1:37:17 AM #311: |
UltimaterializerX posted...
it's quite literally there in the article. just... not written as a threat mind you. in a "we reserve the right to publish," way. that's a list of terms and none of them make his identity relevant to any discussion at all. it's a threat in the same way about how it's a shame businesses keep getting their windows broken whenever Tony's not around to help. it's very lawyer-ese and mafioso language, same with the whole "we never spoke to him" bit - they didn't speak, just tried to and directly contacted him in two personal methods. i mean yeah the guy obviously panicked when he entered "DELETE EVERYTHING" mode but he probably wouldn't have been in that mode had they not called his personal phone number and email. that's the rub. if they wanted to talk to him, again, they could've just used reddit. no need to dig deeply into him. it's at that's point where people see it as a threat - not an explicit one mind you, but an implicit one of "I know who you are and have enough of your personal info to scare you." it's possible the CNN journo explained the process - series of reddit posts -> facebook -> personal info - at which point the main question's clear: if CNN has my dox, who else will once they write this piece about me? so he proceeded to delete everything. no explicit threats are probably involved, just a lot of implications and a really sketchy line in the article in that "we reserve the right to publish if any of the above terms change." --- "Maybe it's a tentacle, molesting the planet itself. - Aschen Brodel. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MoogleKupo141 07/05/17 1:37:17 AM #312: |
UltimaterializerX posted...
Thanks, moogs. wait what am I censor bypassing I'm genuinely really confused about this --- For your BK_Sheikah00. At least Kupo has class and doesn't MESSAGE the people -Dr Pizza ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LordoftheMorons 07/05/17 1:37:26 AM #313: |
Corrik posted...
"CNN can threaten to dox private citizens' information, but won't reveal their anonymous sources in news tips. #CNNBlackMail" This is a lot less clever than you think it is --- Congrats to BKSheikah for winning the BYIG Guru Challenge! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Corrik 07/05/17 1:37:53 AM #314: |
StealThisSheen posted...
UltimaterializerX posted...CNN reserves the right to publish his identity should any of that change. Well, one requires putting words into their mouth and one doesn't. It was not newsworthy til CnN made it newsworthy. And the user was never newsworthy til they tracked him down. Your interpretation makes zero sense and is literally adding to the story that their own press release does not even support. --- LoL ID = imajericho XBL GT = Corrik ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MoogleKupo141 07/05/17 1:38:03 AM #315: |
Corrik posted...
Lol at least most of twitter seems to be able to put it together. well they shouldn't reveal their anonymous sources, that's like the whole point of being anonymous --- For your BK_Sheikah00. At least Kupo has class and doesn't MESSAGE the people -Dr Pizza ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LapisLazuli 07/05/17 1:38:34 AM #316: |
MoogleKupo141 posted...
UltimaterializerX posted...Thanks, moogs. I've been starring for almost a minute and I'm completely baffled. --- MWC: I've made the stupidest post possible. Ulti: Hold my beer. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Corrik 07/05/17 1:39:13 AM #317: |
lordloki12 posted...
Corrik posted...lordloki12 posted...Wanglicious posted...lordloki12 posted... Why should his private information be released at all? What crime.did he commit? He made something to be funny? Woopppeee. --- LoL ID = imajericho XBL GT = Corrik ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LordoftheMorons 07/05/17 1:39:30 AM #318: |
MoogleKupo141 posted...
UltimaterializerX posted...Thanks, moogs. I think he's referring to the guy's reddit username? Maybe? --- Congrats to BKSheikah for winning the BYIG Guru Challenge! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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XIII_rocks 07/05/17 1:39:32 AM #319: |
LapisLazuli posted...
Holy fucking shit you people are shitting news outlet for doing the primary job of a news outlet? Do you go to a sandwhich shop and yell at them for making sandwhiches? This is somehow the dumbest tirade you people have gone on yet. Everything about it reads like people have nabbed your accounts and are parodying you. Again, that isn't really the issue. The crux of the problem comes down simply to CNN saying "we reserve the right". --- Such a lust for revenge ... Copied to Clipboard!
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StealThisSheen 07/05/17 1:40:30 AM #320: |
Corrik posted...
Your interpretation makes zero sense and is literally adding to the story that their own press release does not even support. ...How --- Seplito Nash, Smelling Like the Vault since 1996 Step FOUR! Get Paid! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Corrik 07/05/17 1:40:37 AM #321: |
MoogleKupo141 posted...
Corrik posted...Lol at least most of twitter seems to be able to put it together. Tell that to the anonymous reddit poster. --- LoL ID = imajericho XBL GT = Corrik ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LordoftheMorons 07/05/17 1:41:02 AM #322: |
Corrik posted...
Tell that to the anonymous reddit poster. ...he's not a source --- Congrats to BKSheikah for winning the BYIG Guru Challenge! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MoogleKupo141 07/05/17 1:42:11 AM #324: |
Corrik posted...
MoogleKupo141 posted...Corrik posted...Lol at least most of twitter seems to be able to put it together. I can't, CNN won't tell me who he is. --- For your BK_Sheikah00. At least Kupo has class and doesn't MESSAGE the people -Dr Pizza ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Corrik 07/05/17 1:42:30 AM #325: |
StealThisSheen posted...
Corrik posted...Your interpretation makes zero sense and is literally adding to the story that their own press release does not even support. They never said hey if you make the news again we will release your info. That is your argument and it is adding to the story. The preceding paragraph spells out that this is why we didn't now but if that changes then we will. Read the previous paragraph. That is what they want from him or they release his information. And he is so scared shitless he will do whatever is wanted. --- LoL ID = imajericho XBL GT = Corrik ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LapisLazuli 07/05/17 1:42:52 AM #327: |
XIII_rocks posted...
LapisLazuli posted...Holy fucking shit you people are shitting news outlet for doing the primary job of a news outlet? Do you go to a sandwhich shop and yell at them for making sandwhiches? This is somehow the dumbest tirade you people have gone on yet. Everything about it reads like people have nabbed your accounts and are parodying you. Yeah and it's 100% in their right to do so. Fox news incorrectly reported people to be terrorists by name and fucked up their lives and didn't get shit in return. Little Billy racists who talks about how Jews are ruining the world and is probably actually 30 can suck it up. He has no inherent right to not have his name revealed here. --- MWC: I've made the stupidest post possible. Ulti: Hold my beer. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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lordloki12 07/05/17 1:43:08 AM #328: |
Corrik posted...
lordloki12 posted...Corrik posted...lordloki12 posted...Wanglicious posted...lordloki12 posted... You don't have to commit a crime to become newsworthy and his private info wasnt released. --- [ 1 ] [ 10 ] [ 7 ] [ 12 ] [ 9 ] [ 19 ] [ 5 ] ... Copied to Clipboard!
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StealThisSheen 07/05/17 1:43:24 AM #329: |
Corrik posted...
That is what they want from him or they release his information. And he is so scared shitless he will do whatever is wanted. This is YOU adding to the story. --- Seplito Nash, Smelling Like the Vault since 1996 Step FOUR! Get Paid! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Corrik 07/05/17 1:43:33 AM #330: |
MoogleKupo141 posted...
Corrik posted...MoogleKupo141 posted...Corrik posted...Lol at least most of twitter seems to be able to put it together. Don't worry. They will if he doesn't do what they want him to. --- LoL ID = imajericho XBL GT = Corrik ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Corrik 07/05/17 1:43:58 AM #331: |
StealThisSheen posted...
Corrik posted...That is what they want from him or they release his information. And he is so scared shitless he will do whatever is wanted. It is literally in the article. Read the article already. Jesus. --- LoL ID = imajericho XBL GT = Corrik ... Copied to Clipboard!
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XIII_rocks 07/05/17 1:45:01 AM #332: |
LapisLazuli posted...
XIII_rocks posted...LapisLazuli posted...Holy fucking shit you people are shitting news outlet for doing the primary job of a news outlet? Do you go to a sandwhich shop and yell at them for making sandwhiches? This is somehow the dumbest tirade you people have gone on yet. Everything about it reads like people have nabbed your accounts and are parodying you. Well I agree. I'm just saying don't get bogged down in Corrik's deliberate obfuscation of the real story. --- Such a lust for revenge ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Corrik 07/05/17 1:45:11 AM #333: |
UltimaterializerX posted...
For XIII: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DD8r0a9VwAAa_RK.jpg:large 4chan trolls.for a living. They have zero credibility. --- LoL ID = imajericho XBL GT = Corrik ... Copied to Clipboard!
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StealThisSheen 07/05/17 1:45:24 AM #334: |
Go ahead, Corrik.
Show me exactly where CNN says "We blackmailed him and if he doesn't do as we say, we'll release his info. This has made him so scared shitless that he will do whatever we want." Please. I'll wait. --- Seplito Nash, Smelling Like the Vault since 1996 Step FOUR! Get Paid! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MoogleKupo141 07/05/17 1:45:30 AM #335: |
UltimaterializerX posted...
For XIII: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DD8r0a9VwAAa_RK.jpg:large 4chan is a collection of anonymous individuals. The guy posting that may have nothing to with any person who has "done this stuff" in the past. I could go there right now, make a post saying he's actually only twelve years old, screenshot it, then tweet it to Mark Dice and it would be just as plausible. --- For your BK_Sheikah00. At least Kupo has class and doesn't MESSAGE the people -Dr Pizza ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TheRock1525 07/05/17 1:45:35 AM #336: |
The internet doesn't guarantee anonymity, and if you post something there is nothing illegal about having your information revealed to some level. If they're giving out name, address, birthday, and SS number you might have a point. And CNN should reserve the right to post his name going forward because this is a news story they are researching and if he doesn't want that info revealed then he has to cooperate with CNN like every other "anonymous" interview news media does.
--- TheRock ~ I had a name, my father called me Blues. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Wanglicious 07/05/17 1:46:07 AM #337: |
lordloki12 posted...
...except those aren't the terms. did you even read that part? the terms are that if he: - does not continue his extensive statement of apology - does not continue to show remorse. - repeats "this ugly behavior on social media," whatever that means - goes against his claim of how he's an example for others to not do the same thing (make... a wrestling edit with the CNN logo?) if any of those terms are violated, CNN reserves the right to release his personal info. now what of any of that is something that would warrant the release of his info? --- "Maybe it's a tentacle, molesting the planet itself. - Aschen Brodel. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LapisLazuli 07/05/17 1:46:12 AM #338: |
Like "release your info" is such a fucking crazy thing to freak out about here, the news reports on people by name every single day 24/7. They haven't released his name. Bcause there ISN'T A NEWS STORY HERE, and reserves the right to reveal it IF A NEWS STORY ACTUALLY HAPPENS, as they do....in every other news story.
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Corrik 07/05/17 1:46:50 AM #340: |
StealThisSheen posted...
Go ahead, Corrik. Where did I say that at all? You just put words in my mouth. You keep doing it cuz you think it makes your argument stronger. Geez. --- LoL ID = imajericho XBL GT = Corrik ... Copied to Clipboard!
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XIII_rocks 07/05/17 1:48:14 AM #341: |
Definitely think CNN could have worded it better. It doesn't sound exactly benign.
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StealThisSheen 07/05/17 1:48:37 AM #342: |
Wanglicious posted...
the terms are that if he: I think you're making a logic leap, here. Those are the reasons they stated for not sharing his info. You're connecting the "We reserve the right" part directly to that, but there is no language actually specifically doing so. It could be one clause, it could be two. We don't actually know. They could be threatening him, or they could be covering their own asses for if they ever DO have to give his name out in case anybody goes "But you said back then that you wouldn't." We simply don't have enough info to actually know. --- Seplito Nash, Smelling Like the Vault since 1996 Step FOUR! Get Paid! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Corrik 07/05/17 1:48:48 AM #343: |
Wanglicious posted...
lordloki12 posted... No wang. The preceding referred to in the quote doesn't apply at all. It is some made up thing not in the article it refers to instead. #UltraLiberalLogic --- LoL ID = imajericho XBL GT = Corrik ... Copied to Clipboard!
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lordloki12 07/05/17 1:48:50 AM #344: |
Wanglicious posted...
lordloki12 posted... So if he becomes newsworthy in the future they might actually refer to him by name? This is my shocked face. --- [ 1 ] [ 10 ] [ 7 ] [ 12 ] [ 9 ] [ 19 ] [ 5 ] ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LapisLazuli 07/05/17 1:49:24 AM #345: |
You agreed with someone else who claimed it was blackmail, which is the same thing.
Corrik posted... Lol at least most of twitter seems to be able to put it together. --- MWC: I've made the stupidest post possible. Ulti: Hold my beer. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LordoftheMorons 07/05/17 1:49:41 AM #346: |
UltimaterializerX posted...
Not if it violates COPPA. COPPA only applies to kids 12 and younger Also it wouldn't be relevant here anyway --- Congrats to BKSheikah for winning the BYIG Guru Challenge! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Corrik 07/05/17 1:49:41 AM #347: |
XIII_rocks posted...
Definitely think CNN could have worded it better. It doesn't sound exactly benign. Finally. At least someone with the balls to admit it comes off bad. --- LoL ID = imajericho XBL GT = Corrik ... Copied to Clipboard!
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StealThisSheen 07/05/17 1:50:41 AM #348: |
Corrik posted...
StealThisSheen posted...Go ahead, Corrik. You're literally doing the Underpants Gnomes argument. Step 1: Collect underpants. Step 2: ??? Step 3: Profit! You're going "Step 1: Collect info. Step 2: ??? Step 3: Person is scared shitless!" You can't make that argument without admitting that you are implying that they say they are blackmailing him. --- Seplito Nash, Smelling Like the Vault since 1996 Step FOUR! Get Paid! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Corrik 07/05/17 1:50:53 AM #349: |
LapisLazuli posted...
You agreed with someone else who claimed it was blackmail, which is the same thing. Congrats. That is a liberals twitter post. I was showing an example of my previously stated both sides on twitter are going off on CNN. Read context and stop trying to put words where they weren't to make an argument sound better. --- LoL ID = imajericho XBL GT = Corrik ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MoogleKupo141 07/05/17 1:50:54 AM #350: |
UltimaterializerX posted...
TheRock1525 posted...The internet doesn't guarantee anonymity, and if you post something there is nothing illegal about having your information revealed to some level. If they're giving out name, address, birthday, and SS number you might have a point. And CNN should reserve the right to post his name going forward because this is a news story they are researching and if he doesn't want that info revealed then he has to cooperate with CNN like every other "anonymous" interview news media does. I don't think that it would violate COPPA. It might be illegal or wrong in some other way, but I think that COPPA doesn't apply to CNN releasing a kid's information unless that information somehow came from CNN's website. --- For your BK_Sheikah00. At least Kupo has class and doesn't MESSAGE the people -Dr Pizza ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LapisLazuli 07/05/17 1:51:58 AM #351: |
I realize people are trying to talk this one out but I'm just so fucking baffled here. The mixing of Wang's usual conspiracy theory shit, Ulti's continued insistence of news he's already said could be fake, and Corrik's stubborn shitposting are hurting my head.
--- MWC: I've made the stupidest post possible. Ulti: Hold my beer. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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StealThisSheen 07/05/17 1:52:00 AM #352: |
Corrik posted...
Finally. At least someone with the balls to admit it comes off bad. I've been saying it's worded poorly this entire time. But it's BECAUSE it's worded poorly that we can't draw a fair conclusion either way. --- Seplito Nash, Smelling Like the Vault since 1996 Step FOUR! Get Paid! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Corrik 07/05/17 1:52:07 AM #353: |
StealThisSheen posted...
Corrik posted...StealThisSheen posted...Go ahead, Corrik. Incorrect. You are trying to jump from 1 to 4 without seeing if 2 or 3 were even in between. --- LoL ID = imajericho XBL GT = Corrik ... Copied to Clipboard!
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