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ToonLinkWithGun
07/01/17 10:24:35 PM
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I'm a Christian, and I believe in everything Jesus taught. What do you believe in? It doesn't have to be religious?
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solosnake
07/01/17 10:26:04 PM
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Who do you believe in?
I put my faith in God
Blessed and still breathin'
And even though it's hard
That's who I believe in
Before I'm leavin', I'm askin' the grievin'
Who do you believe in?
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ToonLinkWithGun
07/01/17 10:28:45 PM
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Eevee-Trainer
07/01/17 10:28:50 PM
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I believe in the fact that pineapple on pizza is damn tasty
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ToonLinkWithGun
07/01/17 10:32:06 PM
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I believe that dogs are better than cats in every way.

Cats are easier to take care of, but dogs have personality.
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trappedunderice
07/01/17 10:33:27 PM
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I believe that what ever doesn't kill you, makes you stranger.
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ManSpread
07/01/17 10:34:01 PM
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Dash_Harber
07/01/17 10:37:02 PM
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I've never seen evidence of anything supernatural in my life. I was raised Christian but disagree with most of the teachings, so it's not for me. I still use some religious imagery for inspiration and creativity, but no Christian teachings and it's more a cultural thing than an actual belief.
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ToonLinkWithGun
07/01/17 10:39:57 PM
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Dash_Harber posted...
I've never seen evidence of anything supernatural in my life. I was raised Christian but disagree with most of the teachings, so it's not for me. I still use some religious imagery for inspiration and creativity, but no Christian teachings and it's more a cultural thing than an actual belief.

What teachings do you disagree with?
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Dash_Harber
07/01/17 10:46:13 PM
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ToonLinkWithGun posted...
Dash_Harber posted...
I've never seen evidence of anything supernatural in my life. I was raised Christian but disagree with most of the teachings, so it's not for me. I still use some religious imagery for inspiration and creativity, but no Christian teachings and it's more a cultural thing than an actual belief.

What teachings do you disagree with?


- Woman being denied positions of power.
- Views on homosexuality.
- Discouraging people to worry about this world in favor of the next world.
- Discouraging people from participating in politics.
- Discouraging people from learning about other religions.
- Evangelism.
- Monotheistic and ethnocentric view of life.
- The 'turn the other cheek' philosophy that encourages people to be passive and discourages people from standing up for themselves and loved ones.
- The historical use of Christianity to enforce and justify serfdom and feudalism.
- Views on relationships, marriage, and per-marital sex.
- Views on mental illness (admittedly, this varies depending on the branch).
- The demonization of the study of the occult, 'magic', witchcraft or the ritual and practices of any other religion or culture.

That's the main crux of it.
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ToonLinkWithGun
07/01/17 10:49:04 PM
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That's fair. I'm in agreement with the Word of God. There will be many who find fault with it and disagree. That's prophesied.
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Dash_Harber
07/01/17 10:51:17 PM
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ToonLinkWithGun posted...
That's fair. I'm in agreement with the Word of God. There will be many who find fault with it and disagree. That's prophesied.


Yeah, I don't believe charlatanry that encourages me to be passive and waste my life in pursuit of a fictional, precarious, violent, hate filled, selfish false god. Studies and experts have been debunking people's claims about that for years but people still choose to remain willingly ignorant. It makes sense that you would choose to too.
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billcom6
07/01/17 10:51:45 PM
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I believe in the you that believes in me.
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alt_no_1_loves
07/01/17 10:51:58 PM
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Ex-Kefiroth posted...
I believe in the eventual heat death of the universe.

Personally I'm hoping for the big crunch to win.
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ToonLinkWithGun
07/01/17 10:55:37 PM
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Dash_Harber posted...
ToonLinkWithGun posted...
That's fair. I'm in agreement with the Word of God. There will be many who find fault with it and disagree. That's prophesied.


Yeah, I don't believe charlatanry that encourages me to be passive and waste my life in pursuit of a fictional, precarious, violent, hate filled, selfish false god. Studies and experts have been debunking people's claims about that for years but people still choose to remain willingly ignorant. It makes sense that you would choose to too.

Jesus was violent and selfish and hate filled? He flipped some tables. That's doesn't fit your description really.
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Dash_Harber
07/01/17 11:03:24 PM
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ToonLinkWithGun posted...
Dash_Harber posted...
ToonLinkWithGun posted...
That's fair. I'm in agreement with the Word of God. There will be many who find fault with it and disagree. That's prophesied.


Yeah, I don't believe charlatanry that encourages me to be passive and waste my life in pursuit of a fictional, precarious, violent, hate filled, selfish false god. Studies and experts have been debunking people's claims about that for years but people still choose to remain willingly ignorant. It makes sense that you would choose to too.

Jesus was violent and selfish and hate filled? He flipped some tables. That's doesn't fit your description really.

God;
- Killed the entire world, promised to never do it again, prophesied how he was going to do it again.
- Killed an entire generation of innocent children (including animals) and adults to punish their divine right monarch.
- Split an entire civilization for building a tower and being proud of it.
- Destroyed two cities despite aforementioned promises not to mass kill people anymore.
- Allowed his most loyal servant, Job, to be tortured, have his family leave him/be killed, and contract an incredibly painful disease, just to prove a point about his own ego.
- Passed down outlines for how to treat slaves, endorsing slavery.
- Created and endorsed several race wars (Egypt, the Judges of Israel, etc).
- Created curiosity, then punished infantile people for being curious.
According to the Bible at least. Most of these things are outright provably not historical.
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CrimsonAngeI
07/01/17 11:03:45 PM
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Deadpool_18
07/01/17 11:04:52 PM
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Serious answer: Family
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Pitlord_Special
07/01/17 11:07:29 PM
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I believe in a thing called love
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Verdekal
07/01/17 11:08:12 PM
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Believing in nothing keeps an open mind.
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Medussa
07/01/17 11:09:43 PM
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“I believe in the soul, the hanging curveball, pretzel rods (not twists), the powdery smell of girls’ deodorant. That pets talk to each other when we’re not listening. I believe that Lee Harvey Oswald acted with clones. I believe in the sweet spot, magic invisible moons, that cereal is for any meal – not just breakfast. And I believe in long, slow, deep, wet kisses that last three days. Stopping only to go to the bathroom, obviously.”
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ToonLinkWithGun
07/01/17 11:11:05 PM
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Dash_Harber posted...
ToonLinkWithGun posted...
Dash_Harber posted...
ToonLinkWithGun posted...
That's fair. I'm in agreement with the Word of God. There will be many who find fault with it and disagree. That's prophesied.


Yeah, I don't believe charlatanry that encourages me to be passive and waste my life in pursuit of a fictional, precarious, violent, hate filled, selfish false god. Studies and experts have been debunking people's claims about that for years but people still choose to remain willingly ignorant. It makes sense that you would choose to too.

Jesus was violent and selfish and hate filled? He flipped some tables. That's doesn't fit your description really.

God;
- Killed the entire world, promised to never do it again, prophesied how he was going to do it again.
- Killed an entire generation of innocent children (including animals) and adults to punish their divine right monarch.
- Split an entire civilization for building a tower and being proud of it.
- Destroyed two cities despite aforementioned promises not to mass kill people anymore.
- Allowed his most loyal servant, Job, to be tortured, have his family leave him/be killed, and contract an incredibly painful disease, just to prove a point about his own ego.
- Passed down outlines for how to treat slaves, endorsing slavery.
- Created and endorsed several race wars (Egypt, the Judges of Israel, etc).
- Created curiosity, then punished infantile people for being curious.
According to the Bible at least. Most of these things are outright provably not historical.

Jesus did none of these things.
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Dash_Harber
07/01/17 11:13:10 PM
#26:


ToonLinkWithGun posted...
Dash_Harber posted...
ToonLinkWithGun posted...
Dash_Harber posted...
ToonLinkWithGun posted...
That's fair. I'm in agreement with the Word of God. There will be many who find fault with it and disagree. That's prophesied.


Yeah, I don't believe charlatanry that encourages me to be passive and waste my life in pursuit of a fictional, precarious, violent, hate filled, selfish false god. Studies and experts have been debunking people's claims about that for years but people still choose to remain willingly ignorant. It makes sense that you would choose to too.

Jesus was violent and selfish and hate filled? He flipped some tables. That's doesn't fit your description really.

God;
- Killed the entire world, promised to never do it again, prophesied how he was going to do it again.
- Killed an entire generation of innocent children (including animals) and adults to punish their divine right monarch.
- Split an entire civilization for building a tower and being proud of it.
- Destroyed two cities despite aforementioned promises not to mass kill people anymore.
- Allowed his most loyal servant, Job, to be tortured, have his family leave him/be killed, and contract an incredibly painful disease, just to prove a point about his own ego.
- Passed down outlines for how to treat slaves, endorsing slavery.
- Created and endorsed several race wars (Egypt, the Judges of Israel, etc).
- Created curiosity, then punished infantile people for being curious.
According to the Bible at least. Most of these things are outright provably not historical.

Jesus did none of these things.


No matter what branch of Christianity you believe in, Jesus is either God's avatar, God's principle representative, or God's son.
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Deadpool_18
07/01/17 11:14:10 PM
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ToonLinkWithGun posted...
Dash_Harber posted...
ToonLinkWithGun posted...
Dash_Harber posted...
ToonLinkWithGun posted...
That's fair. I'm in agreement with the Word of God. There will be many who find fault with it and disagree. That's prophesied.


Yeah, I don't believe charlatanry that encourages me to be passive and waste my life in pursuit of a fictional, precarious, violent, hate filled, selfish false god. Studies and experts have been debunking people's claims about that for years but people still choose to remain willingly ignorant. It makes sense that you would choose to too.

Jesus was violent and selfish and hate filled? He flipped some tables. That's doesn't fit your description really.

God;
- Killed the entire world, promised to never do it again, prophesied how he was going to do it again.
- Killed an entire generation of innocent children (including animals) and adults to punish their divine right monarch.
- Split an entire civilization for building a tower and being proud of it.
- Destroyed two cities despite aforementioned promises not to mass kill people anymore.
- Allowed his most loyal servant, Job, to be tortured, have his family leave him/be killed, and contract an incredibly painful disease, just to prove a point about his own ego.
- Passed down outlines for how to treat slaves, endorsing slavery.
- Created and endorsed several race wars (Egypt, the Judges of Israel, etc).
- Created curiosity, then punished infantile people for being curious.
According to the Bible at least. Most of these things are outright provably not historical.

Jesus did none of these things.


He's right, @Dash_Harber
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ToonLinkWithGun
07/01/17 11:15:09 PM
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Dash_Harber posted...
ToonLinkWithGun posted...
Dash_Harber posted...
ToonLinkWithGun posted...
Dash_Harber posted...
ToonLinkWithGun posted...
That's fair. I'm in agreement with the Word of God. There will be many who find fault with it and disagree. That's prophesied.


Yeah, I don't believe charlatanry that encourages me to be passive and waste my life in pursuit of a fictional, precarious, violent, hate filled, selfish false god. Studies and experts have been debunking people's claims about that for years but people still choose to remain willingly ignorant. It makes sense that you would choose to too.

Jesus was violent and selfish and hate filled? He flipped some tables. That's doesn't fit your description really.

God;
- Killed the entire world, promised to never do it again, prophesied how he was going to do it again.
- Killed an entire generation of innocent children (including animals) and adults to punish their divine right monarch.
- Split an entire civilization for building a tower and being proud of it.
- Destroyed two cities despite aforementioned promises not to mass kill people anymore.
- Allowed his most loyal servant, Job, to be tortured, have his family leave him/be killed, and contract an incredibly painful disease, just to prove a point about his own ego.
- Passed down outlines for how to treat slaves, endorsing slavery.
- Created and endorsed several race wars (Egypt, the Judges of Israel, etc).
- Created curiosity, then punished infantile people for being curious.
According to the Bible at least. Most of these things are outright provably not historical.

Jesus did none of these things.


No matter what branch of Christianity you believe in, Jesus is either God's avatar, God's principle representative, or God's son.

So you believe that a son if guilty of his fathers "crimes"?
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Dash_Harber
07/01/17 11:15:19 PM
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Deadpool_18 posted...
ToonLinkWithGun posted...
Dash_Harber posted...
ToonLinkWithGun posted...
Dash_Harber posted...
ToonLinkWithGun posted...
That's fair. I'm in agreement with the Word of God. There will be many who find fault with it and disagree. That's prophesied.


Yeah, I don't believe charlatanry that encourages me to be passive and waste my life in pursuit of a fictional, precarious, violent, hate filled, selfish false god. Studies and experts have been debunking people's claims about that for years but people still choose to remain willingly ignorant. It makes sense that you would choose to too.

Jesus was violent and selfish and hate filled? He flipped some tables. That's doesn't fit your description really.

God;
- Killed the entire world, promised to never do it again, prophesied how he was going to do it again.
- Killed an entire generation of innocent children (including animals) and adults to punish their divine right monarch.
- Split an entire civilization for building a tower and being proud of it.
- Destroyed two cities despite aforementioned promises not to mass kill people anymore.
- Allowed his most loyal servant, Job, to be tortured, have his family leave him/be killed, and contract an incredibly painful disease, just to prove a point about his own ego.
- Passed down outlines for how to treat slaves, endorsing slavery.
- Created and endorsed several race wars (Egypt, the Judges of Israel, etc).
- Created curiosity, then punished infantile people for being curious.
According to the Bible at least. Most of these things are outright provably not historical.

Jesus did none of these things.


He's right, @Dash_Harber


Dash_Harber posted...

No matter what branch of Christianity you believe in, Jesus is either God's avatar, God's principle representative, or God's son.


Also, the whole fucking point is that you say prays to God through Jesus. I never said Jesus did those things, but he does represent the man that did.
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Dash_Harber
07/01/17 11:15:39 PM
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ToonLinkWithGun posted...
Dash_Harber posted...
ToonLinkWithGun posted...
Dash_Harber posted...
ToonLinkWithGun posted...
Dash_Harber posted...
ToonLinkWithGun posted...
That's fair. I'm in agreement with the Word of God. There will be many who find fault with it and disagree. That's prophesied.


Yeah, I don't believe charlatanry that encourages me to be passive and waste my life in pursuit of a fictional, precarious, violent, hate filled, selfish false god. Studies and experts have been debunking people's claims about that for years but people still choose to remain willingly ignorant. It makes sense that you would choose to too.

Jesus was violent and selfish and hate filled? He flipped some tables. That's doesn't fit your description really.

God;
- Killed the entire world, promised to never do it again, prophesied how he was going to do it again.
- Killed an entire generation of innocent children (including animals) and adults to punish their divine right monarch.
- Split an entire civilization for building a tower and being proud of it.
- Destroyed two cities despite aforementioned promises not to mass kill people anymore.
- Allowed his most loyal servant, Job, to be tortured, have his family leave him/be killed, and contract an incredibly painful disease, just to prove a point about his own ego.
- Passed down outlines for how to treat slaves, endorsing slavery.
- Created and endorsed several race wars (Egypt, the Judges of Israel, etc).
- Created curiosity, then punished infantile people for being curious.
According to the Bible at least. Most of these things are outright provably not historical.

Jesus did none of these things.


No matter what branch of Christianity you believe in, Jesus is either God's avatar, God's principle representative, or God's son.

So you believe that a son if guilty of his fathers "crimes"?

Wait, you believe in Jesus but not in God or the Bible?
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Dragonblade01
07/01/17 11:18:32 PM
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I believe I can fly.

I believe I can touch they sky.
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Joelypoely
07/01/17 11:20:02 PM
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I believe in Absurdism, Cosmopolitanism, Epicurianism, Self-determinism, Utilitarianism, and probably Atheism (the closest theistic theory I might believe is something close to the simulation hypothesis).
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ToonLinkWithGun
07/01/17 11:20:09 PM
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I'm being hypothetical. I believe in God and the Bible, but Jesus was born to show us an easier way to salvation. I never said God made mistakes, but in order for everything to have a chance of salvation Jesus had to come and be the living sacrifice for us all. As a Christian I follow all the teachings of Jesus Christ who was sent to show us the way.
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Dash_Harber
07/02/17 3:59:35 AM
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ToonLinkWithGun posted...
I'm being hypothetical. I believe in God and the Bible, but Jesus was born to show us an easier way to salvation. I never said God made mistakes, but in order for everything to have a chance of salvation Jesus had to come and be the living sacrifice for us all. As a Christian I follow all the teachings of Jesus Christ who was sent to show us the way.


You didn't answer my question. You asked what issues I had with the religion; I listed them. You then said that Jesus had nothing to do with the above mentioned teachings in the Bible or actions of God from the Bible.

I wasn't sure before, but now I'm thoroughly convinced you are trolling. Good job.
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Dragonblade01
07/02/17 4:03:59 AM
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I believe I can soar.
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ToonLinkWithGun
07/02/17 5:09:00 AM
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Well, God and Jesus are two different beings. You clearly have a problem with God of the Old Testament, but you can't tell me why Jesus was all those things you mentioned. What did Jesus do that makes you hate Christianity?
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DocileOrangeCup
07/02/17 5:09:23 AM
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I put my faith in God Blessed and still breathing. And even though it's hard. That's who I believe in
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Dash_Harber
07/02/17 5:35:03 AM
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ToonLinkWithGun posted...
Well, God and Jesus are two different beings. You clearly have a problem with God of the Old Testament, but you can't tell me why Jesus was all those things you mentioned. What did Jesus do that makes you hate Christianity?


Christianity is a religion that uses Jesus to pray to God. You asked me what problem I had with Christianity. I told you. You didn't ask me how I felt about Jesus.

Either way, the way you are incoherently ignoring everything I ask or changing the subject when I make a valid point makes me think you are a troll. The way you are hardcore pushing your beliefs only reinforces it. The religion isn't for me because I disagree with too many of the doctrines. Simple as that.
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MabusIncarnate
07/02/17 5:37:09 AM
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I believe in miracles

Where ya from? You sexy thang
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ToonLinkWithGun
07/02/17 5:39:44 AM
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I'm failing to find the question you asked that I have not addressed.
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Lord_Ogrim
07/02/17 5:40:22 AM
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I believe that our species is doomed if we don't evolve past our need for made-up religions.
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Dash_Harber
07/02/17 5:41:29 AM
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ToonLinkWithGun posted...
I'm failing to find the question you asked that I have not addressed.


You are failing to carry on a coherent conversation.

Good luck with your zealotry/trolling.
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_Schwarzlicht_
07/02/17 5:45:41 AM
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Pitlord_Special posted...
I believe in a thing called love


Yas.
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ToonLinkWithGun
07/02/17 5:48:10 AM
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Dash_Harber posted...
ToonLinkWithGun posted...
I'm failing to find the question you asked that I have not addressed.


You are failing to carry on a coherent conversation.

Good luck with your zealotry/trolling.

What was the question? I really can't find it.
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Mr_Rian
07/02/17 5:52:03 AM
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ToonLinkWithGun posted...
What was the question? I really can't find it.

Do you think you legitimately addressed any of his criticisms without changing the subject or moving the goalpost?
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ToonLinkWithGun
07/02/17 5:53:50 AM
#46:


Mr_Rian posted...
ToonLinkWithGun posted...
What was the question? I really can't find it.

Do you think you legitimately addressed any of his criticisms without changing the subject or moving the goalpost?

I was tired. I can go back to them today. What was the question though?
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Mr_Rian
07/02/17 6:08:44 AM
#47:


ToonLinkWithGun posted...
I was tired. I can go back to them today. What was the question though?

Yeah, you do that.

And his question was "Wait, you believe in Jesus but not in God or the Bible?" And as he said, your response was incoherent and completely ignored his complaints without addressing any of them. It was very disingenuous. You asked what problems he had with the religion, then when he listed them you said "Jesus didn't do that" which was not your original question at all, so it had no place in the conversation at that point. But as he pointed out, Jesus was complacent or condoned the actions of his father. And when you asked if Jesus should bare any responsibility with his father(which depending on the branch, there might not be a difference) you came across as even more trollish, considering according to the bible we are all paying for "sins" of people we not only don't know, but we didn't even condone, unlike Jesus.
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