Current Events > Thai guard/cop hugs it out with knife-wielding assailant

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SdTDKRTkXuM
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Some people really just need a hug.
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Thais do it again
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But the cops need bigger guns to be safe, right guys?

Seriously, it's shit like this that goes to show that treating people with compassion and consideration are the key to these situations.

Dash_Harber posted...

But the cops need bigger guns to be safe, right guys?

yes? do you really think cops going around hugging people is going to work more than 10% of the time
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DocileOrangeCup posted...

Dash_Harber posted...

But the cops need bigger guns to be safe, right guys?

yes? do you really think cops going around hugging people is going to work more than 10% of the time

http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/entry/salt-lake-city-police-de-escalation_us_591c9070e4b03b485cae1129
http://harvardpolitics.com/united-states/police-training-must-reformed/
http://www.washingtonpost.com/sf/investigative/2015/12/10/new-style-of-police-training-aims-to-produce-guardians-not-warriors/

so you're honestly suggesting that cops stop carrying weapons and start using compassion against armed criminals
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DocileOrangeCup posted...

so you're honestly suggesting that cops stop carrying weapons and start using compassion against armed criminals

No? Where did I suggest that?

I was pointing out that deescalation techniques like this are a helluva lot safer and more effective than militarization of police forces.

safer for whom though? I agree I'd rather have cops not shoot anybody if need be, but in a lot of cases they need to have guns.
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DocileOrangeCup posted...

safer for whom though? I agree I'd rather have cops not shoot anybody if need be, but in a lot of cases they need to have guns.

I'm not sure about that. SLC hasn't had any deaths on either side since 2015, so there might be something to it.

Not only that, but I'm fairly certain there are countries out there where the cops are not armed/lightly armed, and they don't have constant police deaths.

And even then, I'm not saying they shouldn't be armed at all, but the militarization of police force is taking things way to far in the opposite direction.

@DocileOrangeCup, how much of your world view is tainted by your fucking crazy brother?

Mr_Rian posted...

@DocileOrangeCup, how much of your world view is tainted by your fucking crazy brother?

that's actually a good point.

Dash_Harber posted...

the militarization of police force is taking things way to far in the opposite direction.

that is true.

Dash_Harber posted...

Not only that, but I'm fairly certain there are countries out there where the cops are not armed/lightly armed, and they don't have constant police deaths.

that is also true. you also dont hear about gangs and shit like that in other countries tho
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I guess Thailand thugs and loons just aren't the same as the ones from Baltimore, Detroit or Chicago.
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Everyone ITT just needs a hug

*hug*
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It looks like Thailand's controversial stop-and-hug program is working out after all
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Thailand's cops are better than American cops

DocileOrangeCup posted...

that is also true. you also dont hear about gangs and shit like that in other countries tho

Well, London actually has a huge criminal sector. It was actually one of the original gang capitals of the world. IIRC, their police aren't very heavily armed (if at all).

I think there is a balance to be struck. Obviously, there are dangerous groups and individuals out there who will not be reasoned with and will use violence as leverage against their victims and the police. However, there are also a decent number of people who are desperate or mentally disturbed and simply need some help to reintegrate into society. I respect that police lay their lives on the line, and that many criminals have made some poor choices, but that doesn't entitle the police to shoot first and ask questions later, you know?

what are they saying?
@MuayThai85
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Kelystic posted...

what are they saying?
@MuayThai85

I don't speak Thai. I'll show my wife when I see her in a couple hours and ask her to translate
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and smh @ the first comment
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Dash_Harber posted...

DocileOrangeCup posted...

that is also true. you also dont hear about gangs and shit like that in other countries tho

Well, London actually has a huge criminal sector. It was actually one of the original gang capitals of the world. IIRC, their police aren't very heavily armed (if at all).

I think there is a balance to be struck. Obviously, there are dangerous groups and individuals out there who will not be reasoned with and will use violence as leverage against their victims and the police. However, there are also a decent number of people who are desperate or mentally disturbed and simply need some help to reintegrate into society. I respect that police lay their lives on the line, and that many criminals have made some poor choices, but that doesn't entitle the police to shoot first and ask questions later, you know?

The UK has armed responce units @Dash_Harber
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Dash_Harber posted...

But the cops need bigger guns to be safe, right guys?

Seriously, it's shit like this that goes to show that treating people with compassion and consideration are the key to these situations.

There are outliers and exceptions to everything. How many more instances where doing this would have proven fatal?
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spikethedevil posted...

Dash_Harber posted...

DocileOrangeCup posted...

that is also true. you also dont hear about gangs and shit like that in other countries tho

Well, London actually has a huge criminal sector. It was actually one of the original gang capitals of the world. IIRC, their police aren't very heavily armed (if at all).

I think there is a balance to be struck. Obviously, there are dangerous groups and individuals out there who will not be reasoned with and will use violence as leverage against their victims and the police. However, there are also a decent number of people who are desperate or mentally disturbed and simply need some help to reintegrate into society. I respect that police lay their lives on the line, and that many criminals have made some poor choices, but that doesn't entitle the police to shoot first and ask questions later, you know?

The UK has armed responce units @Dash_Harber

I thought basic beat cops weren't armed, though. My mistake. How about Japan?

WesternMedia posted...

There are outliers and exceptions to everything. How many more instances where doing this would have proven fatal?

Of course, but how many people will be needless killed in a violent confrontation who simply needed to be talked down? It goes both ways.

I see this inspiring a movie about a hostage negotiator that goes around saving lives through hugs. It'll be called...... shit I can't think of anything clever.
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looks like one of those thai PSAs

Dash_Harber posted...

Of course, but how many people will be needless killed in a violent confrontation who simply needed to be talked down? It goes both ways.

I believe most people who can get talked down out of a confrontation are other than the obvious famous police brutality incidents. That might just be my optimistic side though.
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