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Milkman5
06/28/17 8:28:27 PM
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two series that actually try new things all the time


and yet worship Force Awakens despite being a literal A New Hope remake
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HylianFox
06/28/17 8:30:43 PM
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I love Mega Man and it's literally the same game every single time
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DK9292
06/28/17 8:31:42 PM
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Sounds about right.
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D-Lo_BrownTown
06/28/17 8:31:58 PM
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Webmaster4531
06/28/17 8:34:03 PM
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Force Awakens isn't a terrible movie and it did try something new. They added a Mary Sue.
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Mist_Turnips
06/28/17 8:42:50 PM
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D-Lo_BrownTown posted...
Sony Fanboys literally creaming over Crash remakes.

And Xbutts melting down over and talking about those remakes more than anyone else.
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Darmik
06/28/17 8:43:25 PM
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The people who complain about Zelda and Mario tend to disregard Splatoon and ARMS as well anyway.
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HylianFox
06/28/17 8:44:58 PM
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ImAMarvel posted...
I never got the whole "Mario and Zelda are literally always the same game," thing, since they try out new ideas and game mechanics every single game. I don't know why people are expecting something completely and totally different in an established IP that has established, and very well-received gameplay. Even then, we still get stuff like BotW and Super Mario Odyssey that flip their respective series' tables.

basically

"It's the same, now it sucks"
"They changed it, now it sucks"

you can't please these people
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Milkman5
06/28/17 8:45:07 PM
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Webmaster4531 posted...
it did try something new. They added a Mary Sue.


lol
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legendarylemur
06/28/17 8:48:06 PM
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I remember some people actually cried about Mario using the cap as his main attacking.

When 64 used punches, Sunshine used FLUDD, Galaxy used Luma spinning, and now Mario uses caps.

Really though, I don't think there's much that spares the 2D Marios. When fan hacks of SMW are better than some of the 2D Marios by Nintendo, it is a problem. But to accuse of 3D Marios of rehashing is... just plain ignorance, really.

All the Zeldas play differently, too, especially now with BotW. Except in this case, I think 2D Zeldas do just as many interesting new things as the 3D Zeldas
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HylianFox
06/28/17 8:50:26 PM
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legendarylemur posted...
I remember some people actually cried about Mario using the cap as his main attacking.

When 64 used punches, Sunshine used FLUDD, Galaxy used Luma spinning, and now Mario uses caps.

I can only imagine these people when SMB was released

"WTF Mario used to be able to hit enemies from below and then kick them, and now he jumps on them and throws fireballs? LAME"
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Spidey5
06/28/17 8:52:14 PM
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HylianFox posted...
legendarylemur posted...
I remember some people actually cried about Mario using the cap as his main attacking.

When 64 used punches, Sunshine used FLUDD, Galaxy used Luma spinning, and now Mario uses caps.

I can only imagine these people when SMB was released

"WTF Mario used to be able to hit enemies from below and then kick them, and now he jumps on them and throws fireballs? LAME"

They wouldn't even be born for another 15 years
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EnragedSlith
06/28/17 8:55:36 PM
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Originality is overrated. Minor tweaks on a formula is pretty much the best thing you could hope for
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legendarylemur
06/28/17 8:56:45 PM
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Competitive Splatoon was probably one of the hypest freaking thing I've watched in a while. It gets insanely intense, and when the level of the players are high and similar, it really boils down to the very last min.
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iPhone_7
06/28/17 8:57:15 PM
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Milkman5 posted...
two series that actually try new things all the time


and yet worship Force Awakens despite being a literal A New Hope remake


People dislike Force Awakens for being a literal remake

D-Lo_BrownTown posted...
Sony Fanboys literally creaming over Crash remakes.


I'm sorry but how is being excited over a PS1 remake (in a bundle) a bad thing? Its been 20 years since its original release.
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HylianFox
06/28/17 8:58:34 PM
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EnragedSlith posted...
Originality is overrated.

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Darmik
06/28/17 8:58:35 PM
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Thinking about it you could play every 3D Mario in a row and not feel burnt out. I can't think of many franchises like that.
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Calwyn
06/28/17 9:06:25 PM
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HylianFox posted...
"It's the same, now it sucks"
"They changed it, now it sucks"

I thought we were taking about Mario and Zelda, not Call Of Duty.
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SwayM
06/28/17 9:30:09 PM
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Mario isn't a franchise i would criticize for rehashing.

Zelda is. Until BOTW. But one game doesn't excuse 4 titles in a row copy and pasting the formula while fans eat it up.

If you don't see rehashing as a bad thing for any series you're a hopeless fanboy. Assassins Creed, Call of Duty, whatever the game is.

There's only so many times you can play the same game before you get bored or they drastically revitalize the franchise.
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D-Lo_BrownTown
06/28/17 9:30:32 PM
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Mist_Turnips posted...
And Xbutts melting down over and talking about those remakes more than anyone else.


Xbots are just as stupid asking for a Halo 3 remaster tbqh
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ultimate reaver
06/28/17 9:31:37 PM
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Mario kind of went through a rut for a few years but Zelda has always been uncompromising about trying a bunch of different stuff. The most stagnant game was probably Twilight Princess and even that tried to be different with its wolf transformation gimmick
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Webmaster4531
06/28/17 9:32:13 PM
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D-Lo_BrownTown posted...
Mist_Turnips posted...
And Xbutts melting down over and talking about those remakes more than anyone else.


Xbots are just as stupid asking for a Halo 3 remaster tbqh

Halo 3 has the best multiplayer in the series. We'd better get one to make up for how crap the Master Chief Collection was.
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2SweetforTurtle
06/28/17 9:32:59 PM
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D-Lo_BrownTown posted...
Sony Fanboys literally creaming over Crash remakes.


Lmao it's been like 15 years since the last crash game. There's a new mario/zelda game seemingly every 2-3
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ACHEEKSMALLOY
06/28/17 9:37:27 PM
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so how many times does mario need to fight bowser to save peach before its not being rehashed? same fucking premise for 32 years
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D-Lo_BrownTown
06/28/17 9:43:49 PM
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Webmaster4531 posted...
Halo 3 has the best multiplayer in the series. We'd better get one to make up for how crap the Master Chief Collection was.


Why not just make a new game that is good?

Oh, cause 343 fucking sucks. Wait, why do people want them making another Halo 3 then?
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Frolex
06/28/17 9:43:55 PM
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They do something new with mario and zelda maybe once per home console generation. and then just spend the intervening years re releasing new super mario bros
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D-Lo_BrownTown
06/28/17 9:44:53 PM
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2SweetforTurtle posted...

Lmao it's been like 15 years since the last crash game. There's a new mario/zelda game seemingly every 2-3


The last Crash game came out in like 2010. The last Zelda was like 2011.
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HylianFox
06/28/17 9:45:06 PM
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ACHEEKSMALLOY posted...
so how many times does mario need to fight bowser to save peach before its not being rehashed? same fucking premise for 32 years

at least Ninty acknowledges it's the same premise, often in-game
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Swagnificent119
06/28/17 9:46:13 PM
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Fuck all these Nintendo rehashes.

*gets excited for Crash remake, Shadow of the Collosus remake, Halo remakes and gears of war remakes and the fifth re release of skyrim*
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Milkman5
06/28/17 9:50:02 PM
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didn't Skyward Sword come out in 2011

are people really saying they make Zelda games too often?

6 years?
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RebelElite791
06/28/17 9:51:07 PM
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HylianFox
06/28/17 9:51:28 PM
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Swagnificent119 posted...
the fifth re release of skyrim*

this is what pisses me off

"Oh, you liked Skyrim? WELL THAT'S ALL YOU'RE EVER GONNA GET FROM NOW ON"
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Milkman5
06/28/17 9:52:39 PM
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RebelElite791 posted...
You need a new gimmick bro.


force awakens is trash
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KillerSlaw
06/28/17 9:53:03 PM
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D-Lo_BrownTown posted...
The last Crash game came out in like 2010. The last Zelda was like 2011.


Wasn't there a Crash Skylanders game or something? I swear I saw stupid Skylanders toys with Crash and Cortex.
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HylianFox
06/28/17 9:53:42 PM
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Milkman5 posted...
didn't Skyward Sword come out in 2011

are people really saying they make Zelda games too often?

6 years?

I assume we are ignoring handheld games and remakes?

ALBW was 2013, TFH was 2015
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Zack_Attackv1
06/28/17 9:55:13 PM
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Milkman5
06/28/17 9:56:51 PM
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HylianFox posted...
Milkman5 posted...
didn't Skyward Sword come out in 2011

are people really saying they make Zelda games too often?

6 years?

I assume we are ignoring handheld games and remakes?

ALBW was 2013, TFH was 2015


Those are different dev teams and different games
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Darmik
06/28/17 10:06:10 PM
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KillerSlaw posted...
D-Lo_BrownTown posted...
The last Crash game came out in like 2010. The last Zelda was like 2011.


Wasn't there a Crash Skylanders game or something? I swear I saw stupid Skylanders toys with Crash and Cortex.


Yeah it was in the last year or so. I think it was like a bonus thing. They didn't have a game based around them though.
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legendarylemur
06/28/17 10:07:24 PM
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Another thing is, they're also comparing remakes made by a company that's been making games for 25 years compared to those that existed for maybe half the time. They have a lot of legacy that they can bring back. Like tons of legacy contents.
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Frolex
06/28/17 10:10:52 PM
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D-Lo_BrownTown posted...
2SweetforTurtle posted...

Lmao it's been like 15 years since the last crash game. There's a new mario/zelda game seemingly every 2-3


The last Crash game came out in like 2010. The last Zelda was like 2011.


There have been 10 Zelda games released bewteen 2011 and today. Crash hasn't had so much as a spin off game come out in that time
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Darmik
06/28/17 10:12:43 PM
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The only reason Crash hasn't been rehashed more is because Activision didn't think it was worth rehashing. If the remaster trilogy succeeds that might change. It's Activision.
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RebelElite791
06/28/17 10:18:29 PM
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Mako_Sharknado
06/28/17 10:21:04 PM
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I only hear the rehash thing for Pokemon
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