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Zeus
06/28/17 3:08:05 PM
#51:


Muffinz0rz posted...
I'm going to reply to everything you just said using things that I have already said.


It's funny how selective your quoted images are. For example, you post your rebuttal to a comment but NOT the original comment which shows what you said (eg, physical venusaur). You references to earlier posts but NOT the posts themselves. You post images showing links to dead topics but NOT images of the topics themselves. And an acknowledgement of being wrong isn't the point, it's the fact that you were completely wrong in so many regards.

Otherwise, in a topic about Bulbasaur as a starter where I reference some of his moves, you somehow conflated that to mean, "Oh, it's not about Bulbasaur, it's about sleep powder across all generations including the most recent gens where sleep (which I'm going to claim isn't OP) got the harshest nerf yet! (But not because it was ever OP! They just nerfed it.... BECAUSE!)"

Muffinz0rz posted...
Firewood18 posted...
Popular troll = oxymoron

Zeus and Erik are popular though


The irony of you accusing other people of being trolls is probably lost only on yourself.
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Muffinz0rz
06/28/17 3:17:25 PM
#52:


Zeus posted...
For example, you post your rebuttal to a comment but NOT the original comment which shows what you said (eg, physical venusaur). You references to earlier posts but NOT the posts themselves. You post images showing links to dead topics but NOT images of the topics themselves.

There's a reason I left my name and the dates of each post in there. I can't post links to that website because it gets banned. I can't post image after image of all the topics because that would take forever. I can't copy and paste because it removes formatting (and would also take a long time). I left the dates in there for you to go find the comment. I had to find them myself, and you've been here far longer than I have, so there's no reason you can't either (especially when I've already given you the excerpts).

If your only rebuttal to anything I just said is the fact that I couldn't present it in a pretty enough format (when I'd be willing to bet you know why I can't post URLs to said site), that's a pretty clean sign you've got nothing of value to say.

Zeus posted...
And an acknowledgement of being wrong isn't the point, it's the fact that you were completely wrong in so many regards.

Much like you refuse to provide specific examples as to what's wrong with my wording in the polls, are you just going to continue saying "you're wrong" without evidence? Or are you actually planning on supporting your points sometime?

Zeus posted...
sleep (which I'm going to claim isn't OP)

That's all I needed to hear. You've confirmed that I changed your mind through well-constructed arguments, statistical evidence, and factual points to change your viewpoint.

Thank you for playing. If you would care to tell me why I am wrong, and not just say "you're wrong," feel free to do so.

Also feel free to tell me why my wording in said polls was biased
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Mead
06/28/17 3:21:01 PM
#53:


These Zeus implosion topics are entertaining af
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Zeus
06/28/17 3:26:11 PM
#54:


Mead posted...
These Zeus implosion topics are entertaining af


Apparently in Mead's world anything but not responding to posts is an implosion. #WTFMead
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Mead
06/28/17 3:29:59 PM
#55:


What will he respond to next
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Zeus
06/28/17 3:44:00 PM
#56:


Mead posted...
What will he respond to next


Nobody knows when I'll strike. Am I going to post? Yes. When am I going to do it? Dunno. Could be tomorrow, could be... NOW! One thing you'll find out about me, Mead, is that I'm not a very patient person.
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jedirood
06/28/17 3:54:19 PM
#57:


Muffin posts evidence, and Zeus says he's still wrong.

You need help. If I actually was stoned, you'd make sense
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Muffinz0rz
06/28/17 3:58:58 PM
#58:


jedirood posted...
Muffin posts evidence, and Zeus says he's still wrong.

Classic Trump supporter logic
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Zeus
06/28/17 4:02:38 PM
#59:


Muffinz0rz posted...
jedirood posted...
Muffin posts evidence, and Zeus says he's still wrong.

Classic Trump supporter logic


You're quoting a troll to make your case, ergo you have no case. Argo, Ben Affleck.
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jedirood
06/28/17 4:09:30 PM
#60:


Oh yea, I'm the troll. Obviously.

*Rolls eyes*
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RedPixel
06/28/17 4:12:06 PM
#61:


Cannot stand listening to John Oliver. His opinions are completely biased to the point where he sounds like a puppet spewing out someone else's agenda, voice is more annoying than Alex Jones (dunno how one manages to do that, but he did anyway), and his jokes aren't even funny. Even his potentially funny jokes fall flat on delivery because he tries to escalate it for more cheap laughs and it kills the entire joke.

Most annoying dipshit on the air.
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Muffinz0rz
06/28/17 4:21:06 PM
#62:


jedirood posted...
Oh yea, I'm the troll. Obviously.

*Rolls eyes*

Zeus be like OMG YOU ROLLED YOUR EYES YOURE A TROLL NOT ME
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Erik_P
06/28/17 4:27:37 PM
#63:


Zeus posted...
Muffinz0rz posted...
jedirood posted...
Muffin posts evidence, and Zeus says he's still wrong.

Classic Trump supporter logic


You're quoting a troll to make your case, ergo you have no case. Argo, Ben Affleck.


He may be a troll but he's provided more proof of his claims than you have, ever.
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Muffinz0rz
06/28/17 4:30:07 PM
#64:


Erik_P posted...
Zeus posted...
Muffinz0rz posted...
jedirood posted...
Muffin posts evidence, and Zeus says he's still wrong.

Classic Trump supporter logic


You're quoting a troll to make your case, ergo you have no case. Argo, Ben Affleck.


He may be a troll but he's provided more proof of his claims than you have, ever.

LOL you clearly haven't seen the Sleep Powder / Starter Pokemon debate (which is the only instance where I've needed to provide evidence in a topic with Zeus)
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jedirood
06/28/17 4:38:33 PM
#65:


Muffinz0rz posted...
Erik_P posted...
Zeus posted...
Muffinz0rz posted...
jedirood posted...
Muffin posts evidence, and Zeus says he's still wrong.

Classic Trump supporter logic


You're quoting a troll to make your case, ergo you have no case. Argo, Ben Affleck.


He may be a troll but he's provided more proof of his claims than you have, ever.

LOL you clearly haven't seen the Sleep Powder / Starter Pokemon debate (which is the only instance where I've needed to provide evidence in a topic with Zeus)


You know how much evidence Zeus has provided?

...

That's it
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Zeus
06/28/17 4:41:12 PM
#66:


Muffinz0rz posted...
LOL you clearly haven't seen the Sleep Powder / Starter Pokemon debate (which is the only instance where I've needed to provide evidence in a topic with Zeus)


And I provided plenty of evidence whereas you just created some biased opinion polls on a non-competitive board to justify your claims (after previously creating a series of polls which distorted the purpose of the series). Frankly, the greatest justification for sleep being OP is demonstrated by the fact it kept getting nerfed generation after generation after generation.

Otherwise, I'm pretty sure Erik was actually trying to accuse me of not posting evidence which is ironic given that I've posted a few links in this topic, ironic in that it suggests that teen troll jedirood has ever posted evidence, and hypocritical given that Erik almost never posts things which back up his claims (although he's posted plenty of things which contradict his claims)
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Muffinz0rz
06/28/17 4:48:35 PM
#67:


Zeus posted...
biased opinion polls

I'm not reading or responding to anything else you say until you provide me real reasoning as to how they are biased. I have requested several times and you haven't provided any examples. All you say is "it's the wording" and "it's biased" and etc.
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jedirood
06/28/17 4:57:44 PM
#68:


Zeus posted...
Muffinz0rz posted...
LOL you clearly haven't seen the Sleep Powder / Starter Pokemon debate (which is the only instance where I've needed to provide evidence in a topic with Zeus)


And I provided plenty of evidence whereas you just created some biased opinion polls on a non-competitive board to justify your claims (after previously creating a series of polls which distorted the purpose of the series). Frankly, the greatest justification for sleep being OP is demonstrated by the fact it kept getting nerfed generation after generation after generation.

Otherwise, I'm pretty sure Erik was actually trying to accuse me of not posting evidence which is ironic given that I've posted a few links in this topic, ironic in that it suggests that teen troll jedirood has ever posted evidence, and hypocritical given that Erik almost never posts things which back up his claims (although he's posted plenty of things which contradict his claims)


Keep digging that hole. You are literally the only one who says I'm a troll
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Troll_Police_
06/28/17 5:22:19 PM
#69:


EightySeven posted...
Troll_Police_ posted...
https://pics.me.me/the-im-a-millennial-and-i-know-a-lot-about-21411579.png


This is just lazy. Everyone hates Trevor Noah, no one watches Samantha Bee and Colbert is largely irrelevant in his new show. Would have worked better when Jon Stewart and Colbert were still on Comedy central.


Are you triggered?
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Muffinz0rz
06/28/17 5:27:12 PM
#70:


Troll_Police_ posted...
EightySeven posted...
Troll_Police_ posted...
https://pics.me.me/the-im-a-millennial-and-i-know-a-lot-about-21411579.png


This is just lazy. Everyone hates Trevor Noah, no one watches Samantha Bee and Colbert is largely irrelevant in his new show. Would have worked better when Jon Stewart and Colbert were still on Comedy central.


Are you triggered?

Lol no, he's just pointing out facts.
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FrndNhbrHdCEman
06/28/17 6:08:13 PM
#71:


Zeus is an old fart troll that never grew outta the teen angst stage. Figures if he screams an kicks loud enough shit's gotta be true. No wonder he's desperate to impress an lives on POTD. Lol Goin on bout his karma when called out like it's his dick size.
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Zeus
06/28/17 6:28:14 PM
#72:


Muffinz0rz posted...
Zeus posted...
biased opinion polls

I'm not reading or responding to anything else you say until you provide me real reasoning as to how they are biased. I have requested several times and you haven't provided any examples. All you say is "it's the wording" and "it's biased" and etc.


First off, I have no way of getting back to the original topics so I can't possibly demonstrate that information at this point in time. Secondly, and more importantly, you mean that you'll finally drop the subject?
it1Ws

Muffinz0rz posted...
Lol no, he's just pointing out facts.


Or alternative facts, considering that Trevor Noah clearly has a fanbase and Colbert is still relevant. (As for Sam Bee, I couldn't remember her having a show until I saw the meme so that might be on the money.)
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jedirood
06/28/17 6:30:46 PM
#73:


Woooooow. You're fucking pathetic.

I'm a teen with several issues that are yet to be diagnosed with no life beyond the internet, and I'm still not as pathetic as you, Zeus
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knivesX2004
06/28/17 7:12:35 PM
#74:


Zeus posted...
Not sure how you reached that conclusion, but you do you. You do you.

My mistake, I just assumed by your ad hominem title you weren't a LWT fan.
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Cacciato
06/28/17 7:20:24 PM
#75:


jedirood posted...
Woooooow. You're fucking pathetic.

I'm a teen with several issues that are yet to be diagnosed with no life beyond the internet, and I'm still not as pathetic as you, Zeus

Let's not get ahead of ourselves here
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DirtBasedSoap
06/28/17 7:59:32 PM
#76:


DorkLink posted...
knivesX2004 posted...
So I take it Zeus is on the side of the guy paying his employees 3 extra dollars for risking their lives and taking away their chances at good benefits and health care then?


I don't know for sure about Zeus, but that's clearly the side a typical left-leaning centrist would take

lmao
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Zeus
06/28/17 8:22:53 PM
#77:


knivesX2004 posted...
Zeus posted...
Not sure how you reached that conclusion, but you do you. You do you.

My mistake, I just assumed by your ad hominem title you weren't a LWT fan.


It'd be weird for me to watch the show and not be a fan. Then again, jedirood apparently reads and comments on all of my posts despite hating me (and knowing I won't see his shitposts anyway) so I guess hate-viewing is probably a thing. In my case, though, I enjoy the show (except for his furry addiction, as he seems to bring in costumed characters a *lot*) even when I disagree with the conclusions and even when his jokes don't hit.

Cacciato posted...
jedirood posted...
Woooooow. You're fucking pathetic.

I'm a teen with several issues that are yet to be diagnosed with no life beyond the internet, and I'm still not as pathetic as you, Zeus

Let's not get ahead of ourselves here


lol, a teen so obsessed that he spams messages to a guy who has him ignored is calling the guy who ignores him pathetic. Given all of the missing posts in this topic, I'm guessing that jedirood is repsonsible for a third of the posts in this topic. He's probably sitting there at his computer and shouting "NOTICE ME, SENPAI!" at the top of his lungs with each new post.
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knivesX2004
06/28/17 8:29:19 PM
#78:


Zeus posted...
It'd be weird for me to watch the show and not be a fan. Then again, jedirood apparently reads and comments on all of my posts despite hating me (and knowing I won't see his shitposts anyway) so I guess hate-viewing is probably a thing. In my case, though, I enjoy the show (except for his furry addiction, as he seems to bring in costumed characters a *lot*) even when I disagree with the conclusions and even when his jokes don't hit.

People hate watch things all the time though. I hate watch The Room. I hate that movie, I've seen it 18 times and I hate it.

I think it's a leftover gag from S1 where he was spending his budget on dumb things?
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Muffinz0rz
06/29/17 10:37:44 AM
#79:


Zeus posted...
First off, I have no way of getting back to the original topics so I can't possibly demonstrate that information at this point in time. Secondly, and more importantly, you mean that you'll finally drop the subject?

Well, you easily could have visited said archive site and found them in the conversation we had, but since everything needs to be handed to you:

https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/187276-pokemon-sun/75428655
https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/187276-pokemon-sun/75429042
https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/210930-pokemon-ultra-sun/75432063
https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/210930-pokemon-ultra-sun/75464575
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Tropic_Sunset
06/29/17 10:44:41 AM
#80:


Muffinz0rz posted...
Well, you easily could have visited said archive site and found them in the conversation we had, but since everything needs to be handed to you:

https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/187276-pokemon-sun/75428655
https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/187276-pokemon-sun/75429042
https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/210930-pokemon-ultra-sun/75432063
https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/210930-pokemon-ultra-sun/75464575


Zeus sure has egg on his face now. There's all the original conversations in their entirety.
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Muffinz0rz
06/29/17 10:57:19 AM
#81:


Tropic_Sunset posted...
Muffinz0rz posted...
Well, you easily could have visited said archive site and found them in the conversation we had, but since everything needs to be handed to you:

https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/187276-pokemon-sun/75428655
https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/187276-pokemon-sun/75429042
https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/210930-pokemon-ultra-sun/75432063
https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/210930-pokemon-ultra-sun/75464575


Zeus sure has egg on his face now. There's all the original conversations in their entirety.

Lol unfortunately, these are just some strawpolls I took during our conversations, not the conversations themselves.

He claimed these polls carried bias as a result of the "wording." I pressed, asking for specific examples on multiple occasions, and he has dodged the question for weeks.
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Muffinz0rz
06/30/17 11:19:29 AM
#82:


Muffinz0rz posted...
Zeus posted...
First off, I have no way of getting back to the original topics so I can't possibly demonstrate that information at this point in time. Secondly, and more importantly, you mean that you'll finally drop the subject?

Well, you easily could have visited said archive site and found them in the conversation we had, but since everything needs to be handed to you:

https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/187276-pokemon-sun/75428655
https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/187276-pokemon-sun/75429042
https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/210930-pokemon-ultra-sun/75432063
https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/210930-pokemon-ultra-sun/75464575

@Zeus
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LifelessBoy
06/30/17 11:25:47 AM
#83:


Zeus posted...
helly posted...
i frequently think i'm wrong about something

and then i look it up and find out i was 100% right

which is something zeueuez doesn't do and is why he's frequently proven wrong all the time


Except I frequently look up info before posting, Jan, and then include the link. The handful of times I was actually wrong involved a claim so trivial I didn't bother confirming anything.

Troll_Police_ posted...
https://pics.me.me/the-im-a-millennial-and-i-know-a-lot-about-21411579.png


Ha.

Muffinz0rz posted...
Says the guy who thinks Sleep Powder is OP after gen 1 lmao


Says the guy who tried to disprove that by posting a biased-worded poll on a Gamefaqs message board and then tried to extrapolate Sleep Powder BEYOND the two generations when Bulbasaur was a starter despite it being referenced specifically as his moveset. Oh, plus keeping in mind that this same guy said that nobody ran a physical Venusaur despite Smogon acknowledging physical moves in his top movesets. Oh, plus keep in mind that this same guy claimed that nobody knew Pokemon evolutions in Gen 1 when the games came out despite the internet being a thing. Not to mention that this same guy also claimed that people didn't pick starters based on evolutions.

Otherwise, you're remarkably touchy about John Oliver getting called a troll, which is lulz in itself.


That last paragraph is one of the funniest exchanges I've read. It's like a script for a conversation in a new Clerks movie. Thank you boys.
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Muffinz0rz
06/30/17 11:27:50 AM
#84:


LifelessBoy posted...
That last paragraph is one of the funniest exchanges I've read. It's like a script for a conversation in a new Clerks movie. Thank you boys.

I really wish PotD didn't delete old posts. Otherwise I'd share with you the hundreds (literally hundreds) of posts about that exact topic.
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Tropic_Sunset
06/30/17 11:43:07 AM
#85:


Muffinz0rz posted...
He claimed these polls carried bias as a result of the "wording."


Yeah, because you clearly think it is since you are asking if it's OP. You should just be asking "What do you think about Sleep Powder?" or something.

Joking aside, fair enough
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ButzKlauser
06/30/17 11:49:04 AM
#86:


what kind of pussy thinks John Oliver is a troll?
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Tropic_Sunset
06/30/17 11:50:11 AM
#87:


ButzKlauser posted...
what kind of pussy thinks John Oliver is a troll?

One could make the argument that all political humorists are trolls. John Oliver, Stephen Colbert, Glenn Beck, all of them.
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Erik_P
06/30/17 12:02:13 PM
#88:


ButzKlauser posted...
what kind of pussy thinks John Oliver is a troll?


People like Zeus who think giving proof of your claims is bad.
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Muffinz0rz
06/30/17 1:17:43 PM
#89:


Tropic_Sunset posted...

Yeah, because you clearly think it is since you are asking if it's OP. You should just be asking "What do you think about Sleep Powder?" or something.

Not at all the case. There is no way to tell which way I want the polls to swing. For all anyone knows,:

1.) I just beat someone with Sleep Powder, and they claimed it was OP, so I made the polls to show them that people don't think it's OP.

2.) I just got beat with Sleep Powder, and I claimed it was OP, so I made the polls to get people to agree with me and say it's OP.

Nothing in any of the polls leads the reader to differentiate whether situation 1 or situation 2 happened.
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Muffinz0rz
07/01/17 1:16:35 PM
#90:


bump
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Zeus
07/01/17 10:06:23 PM
#91:


Muffinz0rz posted...
https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/187276-pokemon-sun/75428655


Poll 1 was where you didn't specify generation, which we literally already discussed. From the connotation, it indicated Gen 7 -- because it was posted on a Gen 7 board -- where the mechanics were heavily nerfed. Very deceptive!

https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/187276-pokemon-sun/75429042
https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/210930-pokemon-ultra-sun/75432063

Poll 2 we've addressed as well, given that Bulbasaur was only a starter in gens 1 & 3... (Not that gen 2 mechanics weren't good for sleep, mind you.) By itself, that's highly deceptive, dishonest, devious, and downright dastardly. That's before even going into your use of wording, which seems designed to evoke a contrarian standpoint.

More importantly, they're still straw polls on a non-competitive board with relatively small turnouts. If you're trying to convince me that you have no argument, bravo, you've done it. Meanwhile sleep mechanics have been nerfed generation after generation and there have been sleep limits put on competitive play.

https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/210930-pokemon-ultra-sun/75464575

Not even about sleep powder, so why the fuck are you posting it?

Tropic_Sunset posted...
Zeus sure has egg on his face now. There's all the original conversations in their entirety.


I can only assume that's facetious.

ButzKlauser posted...
thinks John Oliver is a troll?


He literally says and does controversial things for attention especially to elicit direct responses, which is textbook trolling. If you don't feel that he's a troll, you're either delusional or kidding yourself. The fact that he frequently dares people to respond to him in negative ways is the kind of low-quality bait that low-rent trolls use on this very site.

Of course, if we take a look at your account details:
User Info: ButzKlauser
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We see that you're most likely a troll alt, which explains your stance.

Muffinz0rz posted...
@ Zeus


If you keep abusing the mention system, I will block your sorry ass. As it is, mentions show up lower in my queue than other notifications -- since the system currently ranks everything equally by recency. Otherwise, I have 27 notifications atm. What makes you so special?
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Erik_P
07/01/17 10:07:51 PM
#92:


Zeus is such a fucking snowflake.
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FrndNhbrHdCEman
07/02/17 12:18:17 AM
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Erik_P posted...
Zeus is such a fucking snowflake.

Lol Old crazy snowflake.
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Muffinz0rz
07/02/17 1:04:00 AM
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Zeus posted...
Poll 1 was where you didn't specify generation, which we literally already discussed. From the connotation, it indicated Gen 7 -- because it was posted on a Gen 7 board -- where the mechanics were heavily nerfed. Very deceptive!

This has been acknowledged by the creation of my creating the subsequent polls. Otherwise, with a 1-to-19 vote, why would I have bothered creating more?

Zeus posted...
Poll 2 we've addressed as well, given that Bulbasaur was only a starter in gens 1 & 3... (Not that gen 2 mechanics weren't good for sleep, mind you.) By itself, that's highly deceptive, dishonest, devious, and downright dastardly.

The poll in question has nothing to do with Bulbasaur.

Zeus posted...
That's before even going into your use of wording, which seems designed to evoke a contrarian standpoint.

Go into it. It's the only thing I've been asking you for.

Zeus posted...
More importantly, they're still straw polls on a non-competitive board with relatively small turnouts.

Again, you said the wording was biased. Doesn't matter where it's posted when your claim is that the wording is the issue. Secondly, I said I had no access to Smogon boards, so I'm not exactly sure what you wanted me to do (not like you'd tell me anyways, since it's easier to say "You're wrong you're wrong" over and over).

Zeus posted...
Meanwhile sleep mechanics have been nerfed generation after generation and there have been sleep limits put on competitive play.

The topic is about Sleep Powder, not Sleep.

Zeus posted...
https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/210930-pokemon-ultra-sun/75464575

Not even about sleep powder, so why the fuck are you posting it?

You said I posted biased opinion polls, so I wanted to bring up all the polls I posted to show that they're unbiased, nor are they opinionated.

Zeus posted...
If you keep abusing the mention system, I will block your sorry ass. As it is, mentions show up lower in my queue than other notifications -- since the system currently ranks everything equally by recency. Otherwise, I have 27 notifications atm. What makes you so special?

mad?
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Muffinz0rz
07/05/17 10:26:44 AM
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Erik_P
07/05/17 10:29:40 AM
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No, you've gotta tag him so he gets extra pissy.
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Muffinz0rz
07/05/17 10:30:46 AM
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Erik_P posted...
No, you've gotta tag him so he gets extra pissy.

I was gonna, but he said he'd block me if I did it again, at which point I'll never get to see him admit he's wrong.
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Erik_P
07/05/17 10:32:33 AM
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Muffinz0rz posted...
Erik_P posted...
No, you've gotta tag him so he gets extra pissy.

I was gonna, but he said he'd block me if I did it again, at which point I'll never get to see him admit he's wrong.


If he was gonna block you he would've done it already and then make a new topic about his ignore list, which is how you would've found out. He's a passive aggressive manchild.
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Muffinz0rz
07/05/17 10:33:50 AM
#99:


Erik_P posted...
Muffinz0rz posted...
Erik_P posted...
No, you've gotta tag him so he gets extra pissy.

I was gonna, but he said he'd block me if I did it again, at which point I'll never get to see him admit he's wrong.


If he was gonna block you he would've done it already and then make a new topic about his ignore list, which is how you would've found out. He's a passive aggressive manchild.

Would you mind tagging him for me? I don't want to give him the easy way out of this debate (even though choosing to walk away would be the same as forfeiting in this case).

I feel like if I tag him, he'll use it as an excuse to ignore me, and thus never have to respond to my points.
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Erik_P
07/05/17 10:35:48 AM
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He has me blocked so he won't get a notification that I tagged him.
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