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Kisai 06/23/17 1:29:11 PM #1: |
What in all the fucks...
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BLAKUboy 06/23/17 1:32:02 PM #2: |
It's a Disney game made by Square Enix.
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Balrog0 06/23/17 1:32:16 PM #3: |
isnt it
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ThePrinceFish 06/23/17 1:32:34 PM #4: |
BLAKUboy posted...
It's a Disney game made by Square Enix. That has Final Fantasy characters in it. --- Dielman on Rivers: "I've tried to get him to say s--- or f--- and all he'll ever do is say, 'Golly gee, I can't do that." ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Solar_Crimson 06/23/17 1:33:00 PM #5: |
It kind of started out as one.
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MC_BatCommander 06/23/17 1:33:13 PM #7: |
It's more like a Disney / anime crossover with Final Fantasy sprinkles.
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Ivynn 06/23/17 1:34:33 PM #8: |
It started as a Disney crossover made by Square Enix and had Final Fantasy guest characters.
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hollow_shrine 06/23/17 1:34:36 PM #9: |
If you've not played it, all you'd know from the promotional material is that it heavily features disney and final fantasy characters in some kind of jRPG. How is this a surprise?
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Balrog0 06/23/17 1:35:14 PM #10: |
I mean I played the first one and part of the second one and I still don't see how it isn't a fitting description but ok
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Fenrimis 06/23/17 1:36:20 PM #11: |
![]() ![]() It kinda is. --- Wave. Why the hell is you salutin'? I saw you crying in the locker room like you Cam Newton. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Kaname_Madoka 06/23/17 1:36:37 PM #12: |
TIL some people don't know that game sucks DICK
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MJ_Max 06/23/17 1:36:58 PM #13: |
What the fuck are you smoking tc that is exactly what it is
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Yaridovich 06/23/17 1:37:56 PM #14: |
Isn't it, though? There's Disney main characters working with Final Fantasy main characters... I mean, Squall, Selphie, Cloud and Aerith were all key players throughout the games.
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Kisai 06/23/17 1:38:47 PM #15: |
ThePrinceFish posted...
BLAKUboy posted...It's a Disney game made by Square Enix. That doesn't make it a Final Fantasy game, obviously. hollow_shrine posted... If you've not played it, all you'd know from the promotional material is that it heavily features disney and final fantasy characters in some kind of jRPG. How is this a surprise? So exactly what are we using to describe "JRPG"? I thought people were using it to describe console-based RPGs with the tile movement and the random encounters, and the turn-based menu combat. KH is a full on action game, though... And the promotional stuff barely features any Final Fantasy stuff. Also, I'm talking about fans of the series somehow thinking it's a Final Fantasy game. Balrog0 posted... I mean I played the first one and part of the second one and I still don't see how it isn't a fitting description but ok How is it a fitting description? Ivynn posted... It started as a Disney crossover made by Square Enix and had Final Fantasy guest characters. It's a Square/Disney collab, yes, but not a Final Fantasy/Disney crossover. --- WHO MODS THE MODERATORS? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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BLAKUboy 06/23/17 1:40:57 PM #16: |
The FF/TWEWY characters are literally glorified extras.
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Kisai 06/23/17 1:42:13 PM #17: |
Yaridovich posted...
There's Disney main characters working with Final Fantasy main characters... What?? What Final Fantasy characters are working with Disney characters? If KH was a Final Fantasy game, Final Fantasy characters, and the series history in general would be the core of the game, the central focus. It's not. The Final Fantasy characters are cameos, and at best, supporting characters. Do you guys think the series is a The World Ends With You game as well? BLAKUboy posted... The FF/TWEWY characters are literally glorified extras. Only sensible thing I've seen so far, goddamn. --- WHO MODS THE MODERATORS? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Yaridovich 06/23/17 1:42:53 PM #18: |
Kisai posted...
Yaridovich posted...There's Disney main characters working with Final Fantasy main characters... I think you're nitpicking this too much. --- Talk about backseat fishing http://i.imgur.com/VqWjuCs.png ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Kisai 06/23/17 1:44:18 PM #19: |
Yaridovich posted...
I think you're nitpicking this too much. How am I nitpicking? Seriously, in order for it to be a Final Fantasy game, Final Fantasy itself would need to have way more part in the story than it does. So you guys all think it's a Final Fantasy game, too? ;_; CE, I thought you guys were sensible, and logical... --- WHO MODS THE MODERATORS? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ChromaticAngel 06/23/17 1:44:29 PM #20: |
It's a Square Enix / Disney crossover. Final Fantasy isn't the only Square property in if.
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BLAKUboy 06/23/17 1:44:39 PM #21: |
But the common misconception that really gets me is that people don't realize the KH characters are wholly owned by Disney. SE technically just has permission to use them.
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hortanz 06/23/17 1:45:02 PM #22: |
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Yaridovich 06/23/17 1:52:38 PM #23: |
Kisai posted...
Yaridovich posted...I think you're nitpicking this too much. A crossover doesn't mean it has to be as comprehensive as you say, not even close. There are Disney worlds and Final Fantasy characters and gameplay staples. Ultima Weapon, spell names, characters, etc. It IS a crossover. --- Talk about backseat fishing http://i.imgur.com/VqWjuCs.png ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Kisai 06/23/17 1:55:14 PM #24: |
Yaridovich posted...
A crossover doesn't mean it has to be as comprehensive as you say, not even close. There are Disney worlds and Final Fantasy characters and gameplay staples. Ultima Weapon, spell names, characters, etc. It IS a crossover. It's a crossover just because it borrows spell names and the Ultima Weapon? And what gameplay staples? It plays nothing like a Final Fantasy game. Also, saying it's a crossover just because of the characters is like saying Super Mario RPG is a Zelda/Metroid/Mario crossover. Or that Link's Awakening is a Zelda/Kirby/Mario crossover. --- WHO MODS THE MODERATORS? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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PowerOats 06/23/17 1:59:30 PM #25: |
It's a Disney game with playable Disney characters with Squeenix cameos, made by Squeenix
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Balrog0 06/23/17 2:00:16 PM #26: |
Kisai posted...
How is it a fitting description? you start the game with the only characters other than the PC being original characters or FF characters and then when you get to traverse town its a ff character that links you up with disney characters and they know and talk to each other and shit --- He would make his mark, if not on this tree, then on that wall; if not with teeth and claws, then with penknife and razor. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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The Deadpool 06/23/17 2:02:11 PM #28: |
Kisai posted...
Seriously, in order for it to be a Final Fantasy game, Final Fantasy itself would need to have way more part in the story than it does. But to be a FF crossover it would only need FF characters to cross over into the story... Which they do... --- We are living in a world today where lemonade is made from artificial flavors and furniture polish is made from real lemons. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DezCaughtIt 06/23/17 2:02:15 PM #29: |
Well first off it's not a Final Fantasy game it's a Kingdom Hearts game, and Kingdom Hearts games feature original characters, characters from Disney, and Square Enix characters with the majority of them being from Final Fantasy
There Does that description work nitty picky Also why the fuck do you keep calling it a Final Fantasy game when literally no one calls it that Kisai posted... Yaridovich posted...I think you're nitpicking this too much. You're literally the only one calling it a Final Fantasy game --- The user formally known as freakofnature30 I like ****posting. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Balrog0 06/23/17 2:03:23 PM #30: |
like I dont know anything about subsequent games really but you didn't pay any attention at all to the story of KH1 if you think the FF characters are peripheral. That's true of some of them, but Squall in particular drives some of the main god damn story
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Ivynn 06/23/17 2:08:09 PM #31: |
The FF characters aren't the same as the "real" FF characters tho. They're alternate versions from Hollow Bastian.
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darkphoenix181 06/23/17 2:15:07 PM #32: |
the enemies are from Final Fantasy
it has cameos of main characters from Final Fantasy and villians the magic and items are ripoffs of Final Fantasy I mean, you fight a behemoth heartless BEHEMOTH https://www.khwiki.com/Behemoth I know you trying to troll but you failed --- sigless user is me or am I? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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darkphoenix181 06/23/17 2:16:16 PM #33: |
Kisai posted...
It plays nothing like a Final Fantasy game. someone hasn't heard of FF7 RE or FFXV --- sigless user is me or am I? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Kisai 06/23/17 2:17:10 PM #34: |
The Deadpool posted...
Kisai posted...Seriously, in order for it to be a Final Fantasy game, Final Fantasy itself would need to have way more part in the story than it does. They are practically non-existent in the plot's overall importance save for one instance in KH1, and again in KH2. So where were the FF characters when Sora first encountered Ansem on Destiny Islands? Where were they when Sora first got his Keyblade, and Destiny Islands was destroyed by the Heartless? Who was looking for Sora in Traverse Town? Who teamed up with Donald and Goofy? Which 3 characters that were childhood friends did the story focus on? Who was it that went to Wonderland and rescued Alice? Who was it that went to Olympus to fight Cerberus? Who was it that Malificent was grooming into being another wielder of darkness? After the 6 princesses of heart being Disney characters, who was the 7th princess of heart? Who was it that Ansem possessed? And who was Riku possessed by? And who was at Castle Oblivion? What members make up Organization XIII? How many Final Fantasy characters had a hand in the Organization's downfall? Who went and kidnapped Kairi? Now, who was it that was relegated to plot exposition status, or tending a shop, or being an optional boss? You kinda gotta weigh the importance Final Fantasy characters have compared to literally every other character in the game. --- WHO MODS THE MODERATORS? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Turbam 06/23/17 2:17:58 PM #35: |
This is some weird bait.
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Kisai 06/23/17 2:18:23 PM #36: |
darkphoenix181 posted...
Kisai posted...It plays nothing like a Final Fantasy game. You mean the games everyone was saying play like Kingdom Hearts games? You know, since KH came out in 2002, over a decade before FFXV or the FFVII remake... Turbam posted... This is some weird bait. ...How is it bait? --- WHO MODS THE MODERATORS? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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darkphoenix181 06/23/17 2:19:26 PM #37: |
Kisai posted...
darkphoenix181 posted...Kisai posted...It plays nothing like a Final Fantasy game. it don't matter is KH came first what matters is that there are FF games that have the same combat system and since they were made by the same guy, you can't say otherwise it is bait because you are ignoring tons of key points like the overall template of the game being copypasta of FF items, magic, enemies and all the new KH chars are made by the artist who makes all FF characters --- sigless user is me or am I? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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hortanz 06/23/17 2:19:36 PM #38: |
Honestly who cares about tc's definition of the game all that matter is that he acknowledges its one of the greatest series since the turn of the century
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Kisai 06/23/17 2:20:14 PM #39: |
darkphoenix181 posted...
the enemies are from Final Fantasy ...Again, taking a few elements from Final Fantasy does not a Final Fantasy game make. The game is called Kingdom Hearts, not Final Fantasy. The story revolves around a bunch of original characters unique to Kingdom Hearts, not Final Fantasy. I swear to god, I think you guys are trolling me. --- WHO MODS THE MODERATORS? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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mattnd2007 06/23/17 2:21:05 PM #40: |
Strange troll topic
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masterpug53 06/23/17 2:21:27 PM #41: |
You're absolutely right, TC. The series' head has gone way too far up its own ass at this point for it to be categorized as a simple crossover.
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darkphoenix181 06/23/17 2:21:34 PM #42: |
Kisai posted...
Again, taking a few elements take away the FF elements and you just have a dude walking around with disney characters doing nothing because then you have to remove the combat the item system most of the heartless and other characters --- sigless user is me or am I? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Balrog0 06/23/17 2:26:29 PM #43: |
Kisai posted...
So where were the FF characters when Sora first encountered Ansem on Destiny Islands? Where were they when Sora first got his Keyblade, and Destiny Islands was destroyed by the Heartless? Who was looking for Sora in Traverse Town? Who teamed up with Donald and Goofy? Which 3 characters that were childhood friends did the story focus on? Who was it that went to Wonderland and rescued Alice? Who was it that went to Olympus to fight Cerberus? Who was it that Malificent was grooming into being another wielder of darkness? I mean, the answer to at least one of these questions is FF characters (they were looking for Sora in Traverse Town) and many of the answers are also not Disney characters. IIRC the FF characters you meet in traverse town are working with Donald/Goofy/Mickey so for purposes of the plot the only thing that makes Goofy and Donald more important is the fact that you use them in your party. --- He would make his mark, if not on this tree, then on that wall; if not with teeth and claws, then with penknife and razor. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Kisai 06/23/17 2:27:55 PM #44: |
darkphoenix181 posted...
take away the FF elements and you just have a dude walking around with disney characters doing nothing because then you have to remove the combat ...How?? The combat? Seriously? Which plays nothing like a Final Fantasy game? And why wouldn't you be able to use items? And why would you have to take out the heartless? You're not saying that if they weren't named after Final Fantasy things, they couldn't exist, right? They probably used names from Final Fantasy because of A) branding, and B) it's a nice, lazy way to name a bunch of stuff. --- WHO MODS THE MODERATORS? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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darkphoenix181 06/23/17 2:31:21 PM #45: |
Kisai posted...
darkphoenix181 posted...take away the FF elements and you just have a dude walking around with disney characters doing nothing because then you have to remove the combat because cure, curara curaga is a final fantasy spell so is fire and blizzard so is potion sora fighting is based off of warriors like Tidus the heartless are black mages, behemoths, demons etc straight out of Final Fantasy finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Black_Waltz https://www.khwiki.com/Violet_Waltz https://www.khwiki.com/Black_Ballade --- sigless user is me or am I? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Kisai 06/23/17 2:35:37 PM #46: |
darkphoenix181 posted...
because cure, curara curaga is a final fantasy spell So you completely ignored when I said they could still exist without being named those? darkphoenix181 posted... sora fighting is based off of warriors like Tidus ...Are you shitting me? What about his fighting style is exactly like Tidus's? His fighting style is pretty unique. And again, the action gameplay is nothing like Final Fantasy. darkphoenix181 posted... the heartless are black mages, behemoths, demons etc straight out of Final Fantasy I don't recall any Heartless being named "black mage", and... "demons" are unique to Final Fantasy now?? And again, you're assuming they can't exist without being named those things? Like I said, Square just went for names they already had used as a lazy, easy way to name things. --- WHO MODS THE MODERATORS? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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BLAKUboy 06/23/17 2:36:20 PM #47: |
darkphoenix181 posted...
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darkphoenix181 06/23/17 2:38:21 PM #48: |
Kisai posted...
So you completely ignored when I said they could still exist without being named those? what pray tell are they named in KH? hmm? Kisai posted... I don't recall any Heartless being named "black mage", and... "demons" are unique to Final Fantasy now?? And again, you're assuming they can't exist without being named those things? Like I said, Square just went for names they already had used as a lazy, easy way to name things. Then you either aren't paying attention or are too dense to understand what is before your eyes. --- sigless user is me or am I? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Kisai 06/23/17 2:39:57 PM #49: |
BLAKUboy posted...
You're right, I should stop. --- WHO MODS THE MODERATORS? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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iron jojo 06/23/17 2:55:00 PM #50: |
I never realized until now
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