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A defiant Nancy Pelosi made it clear she's not going anywhere, brushing off critics from her own party saying "I think I'm worth the trouble."
The House minority leader has served as the face of House Democrats since she helped engineer her party regain control of the House of Representatives in 2007 to become the first female speaker. In the face of some fellow Democrats called for her to step down following a major defeat in a special election Tuesday, Pelosi proudly touted her effectiveness, saying she was "a master legislator" and a "strategic, politically astute leader."
Just hours before the news conference, moderate Democratic Rep. Kathleen Rice of New York reiterated her call that it was time for Pelosi to step aside.

"We need a winning strategy and I think the first step to getting to a winning strategy is a change in leadership," Rice told CNN's Chris Cuomo on "New Day."

http://www.cnn.com/2017/06/22/politics/nancy-pelosi-not-going/index.html?sr=fbpol062217nancy-pelosi-not-going0915PMVODtopLink&linkId=38995891

And this is why the dems will keep losing .
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Who
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cjsdowg posted...

saying she was "a master legislator"

I mean she isn't wrong.

The GOP doesn't hate her because she's harmless and ineffective
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Doom_Art posted...

I mean she isn't wrong.

The GOP doesn't hate her because she's harmless and ineffective

Yeah the dems hate her because she is harmful to us and ineffective.
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i dont understand democrats who say you should get rid of someone because republicans don't like them
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Doom_Art posted...

cjsdowg posted...

saying she was "a master legislator"

I mean she isn't wrong.

The GOP doesn't hate her because she's harmless and ineffective

She's good at what she does, but it doesn't really reflect all that well on you when you go around calling yourself "a master".
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Irony posted...

Who

Just some delusional bitch in Congress.
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Link43130 posted...

i dont understand democrats who say you should get rid of someone because republicans don't like them

We should get rid of them because under her watch the Dems are losing time after time. 0-4 in these last elections . One person even said working people should not be guaranteed a livable wage.
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Aren't they all?
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Paragon21XX posted...

Just some delusional bitch in Congress.

tell me about her

you seem to feel rather strongly about her
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cjsdowg posted...

We should get rid of them because under her watch the Dems are losing time after time. 0-4 in these last elections . One person even said working people should not be guaranteed a livable wage.

again, without context 0-4 looks bad

don't forget these were deep red districts where the previous candidates won by double digits.
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Good 'ol Miss "We have to pass it to know what's in it"

She's an embarrassment
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Doom_Art posted...

cjsdowg posted...

We should get rid of them because under her watch the Dems are losing time after time. 0-4 in these last elections . One person even said working people should not be guaranteed a livable wage.

again, without context 0-4 looks bad

don't forget these were deep red districts where the previous candidates won by double digits.

It's not even 0-4, it's 1-5.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California%27s_34th_congressional_district_special_election,_2017

Everyone always conveniently leaves that one out.
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cjsdowg posted...

We should get rid of them because under her watch the Dems are losing time after time.

The fuck are you talking about? They've picked up seats in the house in most of the elections she's been leader for.

Honestly one of the few effective Democrats.

Doom_Art posted...

cjsdowg posted...

We should get rid of them because under her watch the Dems are losing time after time. 0-4 in these last elections . One person even said working people should not be guaranteed a livable wage.

again, without context 0-4 looks bad

don't forget these were deep red districts where the previous candidates won by double digits.

of course the guy that loves loser politicians is defending another incompetent democrat instead of a likable, energetic progressive
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just look at what she did in May with regards to the spending bill. that's enough to me that she should stay
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If Pelosi retired, it wouldn't leave Republicans nobody to criticize (at least not for long), it would just vault someone else into the limelight to be the figurehead bogeyman or bogeywoman. Whoever leads the caucus becomes famous, and becomes a lightning rod because they will become the face of the partisan fighting.

Look at Paul Ryan's favorability ratings - http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/pollster/paul-ryan-favorable-rating.
He was hovering around the break-even point (viewed equally favorable and unfavorable) until he became the Speaker in October 2015, and since then his favorability has tanked in a year and a half.

Mitch McConnell's favorability ratings are terrible - http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/pollster/mitch-mcconnell-favorable-rating (Republican Senate leader).

So were John Boehner's - http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/pollster/john-boehner-favorable-rating (former Republican House leader).

So were Harry Reid's - http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/pollster/harry-reid-favorable-rating (former Democratic Senate leader).

Chuck Schumer - http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/pollster/chuck-schumer-favorable-rating (new Democratic Senate leader) is brand new, but his net favorability has already dropped from -6 to -10 in a couple of months.
He is the new public face of the partisan battles in the Senate - http://www.cnn.com/2017/05/14/politics/chuck-schumer-department-of-justice-fbi/index.html and is being attacked in national media outlets for it -
http://www.cnn.com/2017/04/04/opinions/whats-gotten-into-chuck-schumer-callan/index.html

The fact of the matter is that in modern politics, whoever leads a partisan caucus will inevitably develop high name recognition and poor net favorability, and be used to attack other candidates. Whatever benefit in this area the party derives from her retiring would be short-lived.


Furthermore, Nancy Pelosi is really good at gathering money -
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/07/16/nancy-pelosi-fundraising_n_1677796.html
That seems like a useful skill even if she's unpopular. A replacement might not be as proficient in fund raising.
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Do you ever see Republicans saying it's time for people like McConnell or McCain to go? No? That's why they're winning, that's why they have power. Party over country might be an abhorrent philosophy but it still works, because a sound and unified party is nearly untouchable.
Pelosi is just fine where she is. As long as she's fit to serve, she is an asset to the Democratic party. The rest of the Democrats need to band together, not snipe at each other. That's exactly what Republicans and Putin want
This last highly publicized GA election had the Republicans attacking the Dem candidate by constantly attacking Pelosi. And now Dems are calling for Pelosi's head. Tell me that's not weakness. Dems are still getting played by high school mind games.

She did a great job getting dems to fall in line on important House votes in the past (and as mentioned even this year) so she is a good leader in that regard as well.


Republicans attack her precisely because of how formidable and brilliant she is, and then the casuals stroll in with nary a memory of all she's done and is capable of doing to say Dems should take her down just like the Republicans want them to do.
Under Boehner and now Ryan, she has outmaneuvered the majority party on a number of occasions to force favorable outcomes for the Democrats, when the situation seemed hopeless.
Throughout her career she has single handedly raised nearly half a billion dollars for the party, something no other congressman can compare to. Under the Bush years, she leveraged this and her remarkable political acumen to usher in a blue wave. She then used that majority under Obama to help perform the Herculean feat of healthcare expansion and reform, which multiple Supreme Court lawsuits and full Republican control of our government has not been able to undo. Obama gets all the credit due to the moniker Obamacare has been given, but she was the one who actually convinced him that it could still be done when he had lost hope following the Massachusetts special Senate election that fell to Republicans. She skillfully showed she was right.
If the Democrats were smart, they'd shut the fuck up and support one of their finest in the face of opposition rather than throw one of their best assets in the garbage bin just because Republicans attacked her and won a squeaker in a district that was heavily in their favor.
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Link43130 posted...

i dont understand democrats who say you should get rid of someone because republicans don't like them

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Hinakuluiau posted...

Do you ever see Republicans saying it's time for people like McConnell or McCain to go? No? That's why they're winning, that's why they have power. Party over country might be an abhorrent philosophy but it still works, because a sound and unified party is nearly untouchable.
Pelosi is just fine where she is. As long as she's fit to serve, she is an asset to the Democratic party. The rest of the Democrats need to band together, not snipe at each other. That's exactly what Republicans and Putin want
This last highly publicized GA election had the Republicans attacking the Dem candidate by constantly attacking Pelosi. And now Dems are calling for Pelosi's head. Tell me that's not weakness. Dems are still getting played by high school mind games.

She did a great job getting dems to fall in line on important House votes in the past (and as mentioned even this year) so she is a good leader in that regard as well.


Republicans attack her precisely because of how formidable and brilliant she is, and then the casuals stroll in with nary a memory of all she's done and is capable of doing to say Dems should take her down just like the Republicans want them to do.
Under Boehner and now Ryan, she has outmaneuvered the majority party on a number of occasions to force favorable outcomes for the Democrats, when the situation seemed hopeless.
Throughout her career she has single handedly raised nearly half a billion dollars for the party, something no other congressman can compare to. Under the Bush years, she leveraged this and her remarkable political acumen to usher in a blue wave. She then used that majority under Obama to help perform the Herculean feat of healthcare expansion and reform, which multiple Supreme Court lawsuits and full Republican control of our government has not been able to undo. Obama gets all the credit due to the moniker Obamacare has been given, but she was the one who actually convinced him that it could still be done when he had lost hope following the Massachusetts special Senate election that fell to Republicans. She skillfully showed she was right.
If the Democrats were smart, they'd shut the fuck up and support one of their finest in the face of opposition rather than throw one of their best assets in the garbage bin just because Republicans attacked her and won a squeaker in a district that was heavily in their favor.

This is just going to get skipped over despite how true it is.
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Republicans=The Empire
Democrats= Wookies, Ewokes, Jedi and whatever the fuck Jar-Jar is, cept they have no Luke, they have no princess and they have no Han or plot armor.

Welcome to reality,dems. unite or perish
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https://newrepublic.com/article/143471/defense-nancy-pelosi

Nancy Pelosi is fine. People always just look for a singular person to blame.
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Hinakuluiau posted...

Do you ever see Republicans saying it's time for people like McConnell or McCain to go? No? That's why they're winning, that's why they have power. Party over country might be an abhorrent philosophy but it still works, because a sound and unified party is nearly untouchable.
Pelosi is just fine where she is. As long as she's fit to serve, she is an asset to the Democratic party. The rest of the Democrats need to band together, not snipe at each other. That's exactly what Republicans and Putin want
This last highly publicized GA election had the Republicans attacking the Dem candidate by constantly attacking Pelosi. And now Dems are calling for Pelosi's head. Tell me that's not weakness. Dems are still getting played by high school mind games.

She did a great job getting dems to fall in line on important House votes in the past (and as mentioned even this year) so she is a good leader in that regard as well.


Republicans attack her precisely because of how formidable and brilliant she is, and then the casuals stroll in with nary a memory of all she's done and is capable of doing to say Dems should take her down just like the Republicans want them to do.
Under Boehner and now Ryan, she has outmaneuvered the majority party on a number of occasions to force favorable outcomes for the Democrats, when the situation seemed hopeless.
Throughout her career she has single handedly raised nearly half a billion dollars for the party, something no other congressman can compare to. Under the Bush years, she leveraged this and her remarkable political acumen to usher in a blue wave. She then used that majority under Obama to help perform the Herculean feat of healthcare expansion and reform, which multiple Supreme Court lawsuits and full Republican control of our government has not been able to undo. Obama gets all the credit due to the moniker Obamacare has been given, but she was the one who actually convinced him that it could still be done when he had lost hope following the Massachusetts special Senate election that fell to Republicans. She skillfully showed she was right.
If the Democrats were smart, they'd shut the fuck up and support one of their finest in the face of opposition rather than throw one of their best assets in the garbage bin just because Republicans attacked her and won a squeaker in a district that was heavily in their favor.

this paints a ludicrously favorable picture of pelosi when the truth, as a progressive, is completely the opposite. pelosi has overseen an unimaginably bad stretch as part of the party leadership as the party has lost thousands of seats at the state and national levels over the past decade under her watch. she is maligned by independants and progressives and her prescence in democratic leadership only harms candidates as she has no draw power and only acts as a repellant.

ousting pelosi is not capitulation to republicans, it is cutting out an obvious liability. pelosi is a hypocritical, shady politician who openly rebuffs transparency and inspires zero enthusiasm from the base outside or her district. her voting record is shitty and she has the same corporate ties the rest of the democrats that gave us trump have. pelosi, much like clinton, is a loser and is responsible with the rest of the most recent establishment for the complete annhilation of the democratic party to the worst republican party in history. we shouldn't continue rewarding losers while we are losing every race we get in
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I'm curious CJ, who do you want to replace Pelosi with?

andel posted...

Throughout her career she has single handedly raised nearly half a billion dollars for the party, something no other congressman can compare to. Under the Bush years, she leveraged this and her remarkable political acumen to usher in a blue wave. She then used that majority under Obama to help perform the Herculean feat of healthcare expansion and reform, which multiple Supreme Court lawsuits and full Republican control of our government has not been able to undo.

Her fundraising ability and political acumen have not helped Democrats win seats in the last eight years, in large part because Democrats, having passed massive healthcare reform, were buried under the weight of its failures.
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andel posted...

under her watch.

she's house leader not DNC leader

DWS was practically tarred and feathered (and deserved to be)
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I'm glad she's staying. Whatever it takes for the Salty Liberal Cucks to lose pwoer.
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This woman has annoyed me for years.
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who dat
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