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Balrog0 06/22/17 10:51:54 AM #1:	https://www.budget.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/SENATEHEALTHCARE.pdf --- He would make his mark, if not on this tree, then on that wall; if not with teeth and claws, then with penknife and razor. <cite>Balrog0 posted [p:881597738] in omfg guys ... [t:75489422]...</cite> <quote>https://www.budget.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/SENATEHEALTHCARE.pdf</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
prince_leo 06/22/17 10:56:48 AM #2:	page 8 (d) MODIFICATION OF DEFINITION OF QUALIFIED 2 HEALTH PLAN.— 3 (1) IN GENERAL.—Section 36B(c)(3)(A) of the 4 Internal Revenue Code of 1986 is amended by in- 5 serting before the period at the end the following: 6 ‘‘or a plan that includes coverage for abortions 7 (other than any abortion necessary to save the life 8 of the mother or any abortion with respect to a 9 pregnancy that is the result of an act of rape or in- 10 cest)’’. welp --- https://imgur.com/uHUvpSH http://error1355.com/ce/prince_leo.html <cite>prince_leo posted [p:881597965] in omfg guys ... [t:75489422]...</cite> <quote><cite>page 8</cite> <quote>(d) MODIFICATION OF DEFINITION OF QUALIFIED 2 HEALTH PLAN.— 3 (1) IN GENERAL.—Section 36B(c)(3)(A) of the 4 Internal Revenue Code of 1986 is amended by in- 5 serting before the period at the end the following: 6 ‘‘or a plan that includes coverage for abortions 7 (other than any abortion necessary to save the life 8 of the mother or any abortion with respect to a 9 pregnancy that is the result of an act of rape or in- 10 cest)’’.</quote> welp</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Balrog0 06/22/17 10:57:29 AM #3:	in a very savvy political move, they fixed the issue with people who are in poverty being ineligible for premium tax credit assistance -- this would be great for all the states that didn't expand medicaid, i.e. for the GOP senators who are gonna vote for it --- He would make his mark, if not on this tree, then on that wall; if not with teeth and claws, then with penknife and razor. <cite>Balrog0 posted [p:881598010] in omfg guys ... [t:75489422]...</cite> <quote>in a very savvy political move, they fixed the issue with people who are in poverty being ineligible for premium tax credit assistance -- this would be great for all the states that didn't expand medicaid, i.e. for the GOP senators who are gonna vote for it</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Antifar 06/22/17 10:57:51 AM #4:	~~It's trash.~~ --- an aspirin the size of the sun. <cite>Antifar posted [p:881598036] in omfg guys ... [t:75489422]...</cite> <quote>It's trash.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Balrog0 06/22/17 10:58:14 AM #5:	Antifar posted... ~~It's trash.~~ you havent even read it omg --- He would make his mark, if not on this tree, then on that wall; if not with teeth and claws, then with penknife and razor. <cite>Balrog0 posted [p:881598051] in omfg guys ... [t:75489422]...</cite> <quote><cite>Antifar posted...</cite> <quote>It's trash.</quote> you havent even read it omg</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Antifar 06/22/17 10:58:52 AM #6:	Balrog0 posted... Antifar posted... ~~It's trash.~~ you havent even read it omg Neither have half the senators who will vote for it. --- an aspirin the size of the sun. <cite>Antifar posted [p:881598090] in omfg guys ... [t:75489422]...</cite> <quote><cite>Balrog0 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Antifar posted...</cite> <quote>It's trash.</quote> you havent even read it omg</quote> Neither have half the senators who will vote for it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Balrog0 06/22/17 10:59:21 AM #7:	and they never will --- He would make his mark, if not on this tree, then on that wall; if not with teeth and claws, then with penknife and razor. <cite>Balrog0 posted [p:881598119] in omfg guys ... [t:75489422]...</cite> <quote>and they never will</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pikachupwnage 06/22/17 10:59:49 AM #8:	Jesus this is painful to read. Not talking about the contents BTW. --- I'm Mary Poppins y'all. http://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/665/328/d75.gif <cite>pikachupwnage posted [p:881598147] in omfg guys ... [t:75489422]...</cite> <quote>Jesus this is painful to read. Not talking about the contents BTW.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Balrog0 06/22/17 11:00:56 AM #9:	the actuarial value of a qualified plan is reduced to 58% instead of 70%, meaning that insurance is only required to pay for 58% of the costs of your medical care rather than 70% but I am still reading and do not know how cost sharing reduction subsidies play into this yet --- He would make his mark, if not on this tree, then on that wall; if not with teeth and claws, then with penknife and razor. <cite>Balrog0 posted [p:881598216] in omfg guys ... [t:75489422]...</cite> <quote>the actuarial value of a qualified plan is reduced to 58% instead of 70%, meaning that insurance is only required to pay for 58% of the costs of your medical care rather than 70% but I am still reading and do not know how cost sharing reduction subsidies play into this yet</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darkman124 06/22/17 11:02:32 AM #10:	Balrog0 posted... the actuarial value of a qualified plan is reduced to 58% instead of 70%, meaning that insurance is only required to pay for 58% of the costs of your medical care rather than 70% ugh i cannot imagine such a plan being worth a damn prince_leo posted... welp man i had thought the leaked info was they were not doing this --- And when the hourglass has run out, eternity asks you about only one thing: whether you have lived in despair or not. <cite>Darkman124 posted [p:881598298] in omfg guys ... [t:75489422]...</cite> <quote><cite>Balrog0 posted...</cite> <quote>the actuarial value of a qualified plan is reduced to 58% instead of 70%, meaning that insurance is only required to pay for 58% of the costs of your medical care rather than 70% </quote> ugh i cannot imagine such a plan being worth a damn <cite>prince_leo posted...</cite> <quote> welp</quote> man i had thought the leaked info was they were not doing this</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Antifar 06/22/17 11:04:02 AM #11:	https://twitter.com/JHWeissmann/status/877901580887928832 --- an aspirin the size of the sun. <cite>Antifar posted [p:881598377] in omfg guys ... [t:75489422]...</cite> <quote>https://twitter.com/JHWeissmann/status/877901580887928832</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darkman124 06/22/17 11:09:56 AM #12:	is this text any different from this one, @Balrog0 https://www.congress.gov/115/bills/hr1628/BILLS-115hr1628pcs.pdf i am sharing on social media and trying not to use an incorrect link --- And when the hourglass has run out, eternity asks you about only one thing: whether you have lived in despair or not. <cite>Darkman124 posted [p:881598673] in omfg guys ... [t:75489422]...</cite> <quote>is this text any different from this one, @Balrog0 https://www.congress.gov/115/bills/hr1628/BILLS-115hr1628pcs.pdf i am sharing on social media and trying not to use an incorrect link</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Webmaster4531 06/22/17 11:11:34 AM #13:	Balrog0 posted... in a very savvy political move, they fixed the issue with people who are in poverty being ineligible for premium tax credit assistance -- this would be great for all the states that didn't expand medicaid, i.e. for the GOP senators who are gonna vote for it I'm really surprised. --- Ad Hominem. <cite>Webmaster4531 posted [p:881598776] in omfg guys ... [t:75489422]...</cite> <quote><cite>Balrog0 posted...</cite> <quote>in a very savvy political move, they fixed the issue with people who are in poverty being ineligible for premium tax credit assistance -- this would be great for all the states that didn't expand medicaid, i.e. for the GOP senators who are gonna vote for it</quote> I'm really surprised.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Balrog0 06/22/17 11:11:48 AM #14:	Darkman124 posted... is this text any different from this one, @Balrog0 https://www.congress.gov/115/bills/hr1628/BILLS-115hr1628pcs.pdf i am sharing on social media and trying not to use an incorrect link I don't think they're the same, no, just from skimming it at least. Let me see if I can find another link, this one was given to me internally. Not sure where they found it --- He would make his mark, if not on this tree, then on that wall; if not with teeth and claws, then with penknife and razor. <cite>Balrog0 posted [p:881598790] in omfg guys ... [t:75489422]...</cite> <quote><cite>Darkman124 posted...</cite> <quote>is this text any different from this one, @Balrog0 https://www.congress.gov/115/bills/hr1628/BILLS-115hr1628pcs.pdf i am sharing on social media and trying not to use an incorrect link</quote> I don't think they're the same, no, just from skimming it at least. Let me see if I can find another link, this one was given to me internally. Not sure where they found it</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darkman124 06/22/17 11:12:22 AM #15:	there's a bunch of versions and we need to get our info straight 3 separate versions on congress.gov --- And when the hourglass has run out, eternity asks you about only one thing: whether you have lived in despair or not. <cite>Darkman124 posted [p:881598833] in omfg guys ... [t:75489422]...</cite> <quote>there's a bunch of versions and we need to get our info straight 3 separate versions on congress.gov</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Balrog0 06/22/17 11:12:42 AM #16:	yeah that's old, this is being called the ‘Better Care Reconciliation Act of 2017' not the AHCA --- He would make his mark, if not on this tree, then on that wall; if not with teeth and claws, then with penknife and razor. <cite>Balrog0 posted [p:881598849] in omfg guys ... [t:75489422]...</cite> <quote>yeah that's old, this is being called the ‘Better Care Reconciliation Act of 2017' not the AHCA</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Antifar 06/22/17 11:14:37 AM #17:	https://twitter.com/crulge/status/877903646876250113 This guy knows more than I do, but what I glean from this is - states will be able to offer more flexible (that is, worse) medicaid plans in 2020. - Standards known as "essential health benefits," which state plans must provide, will no longer exist as of 2020. - The ACA had requirements for the portion of premium revenue that must go towards healthcare (as opposed to profit, advertising, or administration). The new bill will do away with this. --- an aspirin the size of the sun. <cite>Antifar posted [p:881598938] in omfg guys ... [t:75489422]...</cite> <quote>https://twitter.com/crulge/status/877903646876250113 This guy knows more than I do, but what I glean from this is - states will be able to offer more flexible (that is, worse) medicaid plans in 2020. - Standards known as "essential health benefits," which state plans must provide, will no longer exist as of 2020. - The ACA had requirements for the portion of premium revenue that must go towards healthcare (as opposed to profit, advertising, or administration). The new bill will do away with this.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Antifar 06/22/17 11:16:08 AM #18:	https://twitter.com/MattLaslo/status/877905179135365120 --- an aspirin the size of the sun. <cite>Antifar posted [p:881599019] in omfg guys ... [t:75489422]...</cite> <quote>https://twitter.com/MattLaslo/status/877905179135365120</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darkman124 06/22/17 11:16:40 AM #19:	Balrog0 posted... yeah that's old, this is being called the ‘Better Care Reconciliation Act of 2017' not the AHCA ok so this is most recent --- And when the hourglass has run out, eternity asks you about only one thing: whether you have lived in despair or not. <cite>Darkman124 posted [p:881599049] in omfg guys ... [t:75489422]...</cite> <quote><cite>Balrog0 posted...</cite> <quote>yeah that's old, this is being called the ‘Better Care Reconciliation Act of 2017' not the AHCA </quote> ok so this is most recent</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
mario2000 06/22/17 11:17:41 AM #20:	Are we great yet? --- Arrrr the SS Goku, Mighty fine boat... -fatmatt Hope Frieza doesn't chuck an Iceberg at the Goku, otherwise it's all over. -Nekoslash <cite>mario2000 posted [p:881599111] in omfg guys ... [t:75489422]...</cite> <quote>Are we great yet?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darkman124 06/22/17 11:24:04 AM #21:	i am not seeing any language about pre-existing conditions at all does that mean they kept that part in? that would still make this less terrible in the end than the house bill --- And when the hourglass has run out, eternity asks you about only one thing: whether you have lived in despair or not. <cite>Darkman124 posted [p:881599405] in omfg guys ... [t:75489422]...</cite> <quote>i am not seeing any language about pre-existing conditions at all does that mean they kept that part in? that would still make this less terrible in the end than the house bill</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Balrog0 06/22/17 11:25:53 AM #22:	Darkman124 posted... i am not seeing any language about pre-existing conditions at all does that mean they kept that part in? that would still make this less terrible in the end than the house bill My understanding is that it does include those. My boss and I think the marketplace stuff looks good from skimming it. The Medicaid cuts aren't much worse than the house bill, either. But they are still terrible. Antifar is suggesting differently, so I'll take another look --- He would make his mark, if not on this tree, then on that wall; if not with teeth and claws, then with penknife and razor. <cite>Balrog0 posted [p:881599494] in omfg guys ... [t:75489422]...</cite> <quote><cite>Darkman124 posted...</cite> <quote>i am not seeing any language about pre-existing conditions at all does that mean they kept that part in? that would still make this less terrible in the end than the house bill</quote> My understanding is that it does include those. My boss and I think the marketplace stuff looks good from skimming it. The Medicaid cuts aren't much worse than the house bill, either. But they are still terrible. Antifar is suggesting differently, so I'll take another look</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Balrog0 06/22/17 11:45:26 AM #23:	yeah essential health benefits go away in 2020, which is worse than the house bill which just let states opt out of them --- He would make his mark, if not on this tree, then on that wall; if not with teeth and claws, then with penknife and razor. <cite>Balrog0 posted [p:881600501] in omfg guys ... [t:75489422]...</cite> <quote>yeah essential health benefits go away in 2020, which is worse than the house bill which just let states opt out of them</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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