Current Events > Child support is the worst system ever.

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How the fuck does the custodial parent not have to account for the money that's spent?

I'm glad I don't have a shitty woman tbh.
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Feminism wins, children lose.
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Ideally it's supposed to assist woman who can't work to raise their kids. Because you know, misogyny. But it, like a lot of good ideas, has become warped into an unrecognizable shell of its former self.
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Howl posted...

How the fuck does the custodial parent not have to account for the money that's spent?

I'm glad I don't have a shitty woman tbh.

Account to who exactly?
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I just don't understand how the fuck such an obviously terrible system remains in place as law.
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thelovefist posted...

Howl posted...

How the fuck does the custodial parent not have to account for the money that's spent?

I'm glad I don't have a shitty woman tbh.

Account to who exactly?

The parent who's paying the child support. The AG, the State. Anyone really would be better than no one.
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Howl posted...

thelovefist posted...

Howl posted...

How the fuck does the custodial parent not have to account for the money that's spent?

I'm glad I don't have a shitty woman tbh.

Account to who exactly?

The parent who's paying the child support. The AG, the State. Anyone really would be better than no one.

but what if the man disapproves of all the money going into the mothers makeup and clothes? thats no good, child support needs to be unregulated, except for the mans payments which needs to be regulated so heavily he goes to prison for missing a payment
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Howl posted...

thelovefist posted...

Howl posted...

How the fuck does the custodial parent not have to account for the money that's spent?

I'm glad I don't have a shitty woman tbh.

Account to who exactly?

The parent who's paying the child support. The AG, the State. Anyone really would be better than no one.

I pay my ex spouse about $2,000 a month in child support. The amount paid is relative to what my income is and what she makes or what her monthly expenses are are irrelevant. The logic being that the child(ren) should reap the benefits of whatever the paying for parent makes.

Accounting for every purchase / dollar spent of this month would be impractical. If they're spending on frivalous things and the child(ren) are not reaping the benefit then this is considered a grievance which would be settled in court.
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thelovefist posted...

Accounting for every purchase / dollar spent of this month would be impractical. If they're spending on frivalous things and the child(ren) are not reaping the benefit then this is considered a grievance which would be settled in court.

It rarely ever ends in favor of the complainant...
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This is why you should be 100% sure you are willing to stay married to your husband/wife before having kids.
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thelovefist posted...

Accounting for every purchase / dollar spent of this month would be impractical.

How difficult is it to keep receipts? That's not even remotely impractical. Lol
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It should be capped at 2500 per month regardless of the payers income level. I get that people sometimes use it for BS but I have much less issue with CS than alimony
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Howl posted...

I just don't understand how the fuck such an obviously terrible system remains in place as law.

Because the government gets a cut of it. That's why.

clearaflagrantj posted...

Howl posted...

I just don't understand how the fuck such an obviously terrible system remains in place as law.

Because the government gets a cut of it. That's why.

No they don't...
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clearaflagrantj posted...

Howl posted...

I just don't understand how the fuck such an obviously terrible system remains in place as law.

Because the government gets a cut of it. That's why.

no they don't. in most cases the check goes directly from one parent to the other.
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ChromaticAngel posted...

clearaflagrantj posted...

Howl posted...

I just don't understand how the fuck such an obviously terrible system remains in place as law.

Because the government gets a cut of it. That's why.

no they don't. in most cases the check goes directly from one parent to the other.

Not in Texas. The non-custodial parent pays the State of Texas directly, and the State sends a check to the custodial parent.
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I guess parents can spend it on whatever they want.
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Ex wife support tbh
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Duncanwii posted...

This is why you should be 100% sure you are willing to stay married to your husband/wife before having kids.

I was. I wanted to spend the rest of my life with her.

Now I'm homeless because I have to pay a third of my pay in child support.
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JJWatt posted...

Ex wife support tbh

And tbh they would much rather have it in CS than alimony because alimony is taxed, CS isn't
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Tbqh most men I've known who pay child support accuse the ex of spending it on herself. It's because they're bitter about having to pay at all. But in most cases where I know both of the parents, they couldn't be more wrong. Raising kids is expensive. I'm sure a small minority take advantage, but that doesn't make the whole system bad.

Hell, my own dad used to say this about my mom, and he was only paying $400 a month for two children. My mom was not living some lavish lifestyle on his dime.
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eston posted...

Tbqh most men I've known who pay child support accuse the ex of spending it on herself. It's because they're bitter about having to pay at all. But in most cases where I know both of the parents, they couldn't be more wrong. Raising kids is expensive. I'm sure a small minority take advantage, but that doesn't make the whole system bad.

Hell, my own dad used to say this about my mom, and he was only paying $400 a month for two children. My mom was not living some lavish lifestyle on his dime.

this
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Means well.

Law and its intent was made when family meant something in society. Nowadays, couples rather let the law govern their relationship than actually make the relationship work.
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eston posted...

Tbqh most men I've known who pay child support accuse the ex of spending it on herself. It's because they're bitter about having to pay at all. But in most cases where I know both of the parents, they couldn't be more wrong. Raising kids is expensive. I'm sure a small minority take advantage, but that doesn't make the whole system bad.

Hell, my own dad used to say this about my mom, and he was only paying $400 a month for two children. My mom was not living some lavish lifestyle on his dime.

Lol. Literally all the single mothers I know abuse the money they get from their exes/the government and spend it on themselves. Don't be such a white knight. There's nothing wrong with expecting the father to pay something but currently they ask for way too much and often financially ruin the fathers and it isn't right.
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Child Support and Alimony were created because for decades if a married couple got divorced the wife was just up shit's creek. Usually a very poor paying job if any at all as most families could afford to live on just the husband's salary for a while, kids, may or may not have a place to live, and unlikely to be able to find another husband.

I believe these days there are enough social programs that make these things not necessary.
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Howl posted...

The parent who's paying the child support. The AG, the State. Anyone really would be better than no one.

I would be okay with them being accountable to the state if the state would be more proactive in collecting child support payments, instead of putting the onus on the women to pursue legal action on their own behalf.
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YourDrunkFather posted...

eston posted...

Tbqh most men I've known who pay child support accuse the ex of spending it on herself. It's because they're bitter about having to pay at all. But in most cases where I know both of the parents, they couldn't be more wrong. Raising kids is expensive. I'm sure a small minority take advantage, but that doesn't make the whole system bad.

Hell, my own dad used to say this about my mom, and he was only paying $400 a month for two children. My mom was not living some lavish lifestyle on his dime.

Lol. Literally all the single mothers I know abuse the money they get from their exes/the government and spend it on themselves. Don't be such a white knight. There's nothing wrong with expecting the father to pay something but currently they ask for way too much and often financially ruin the fathers and it isn't right.

Literally all of them eh
Sorry but this is not a believable claim based on my experience. And child support is based on income, so it isn't a matter of the mom "asking for too much."
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So are you people against it saying the wife should be barred from spending any money on anything but basic necessities on the kids?

How do you know she's spending CS money on it vs her own money?
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I don't know how it works in the US but in Canada if you're a single mother the government will pay your end and give you up to $500+ per child and that's not even including what they can get from the fathers. And yes. They all abuse it.

Also, you misquoted me. I didn't specify specifically "the mothers ask for too much" but the system in general. Men do not deserve to be subjected to financial ruin or have to pay thousands of dollars per month to their ex just because they're not in a relationship with them anymore. It's messed up
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YourDrunkFather posted...

Lol. Literally all the single mothers I know abuse the money they get from their exes/the government and spend it on themselves. Don't be such a white knight. There's nothing wrong with expecting the father to pay something but currently they ask for way too much and often financially ruin the fathers and it isn't right.

This kids is how to shit post.
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YourDrunkFather posted...

I don't know how it works in the US but in Canada if you're a single mother the government will pay your end and give you up to $500+ per child and that's not even including what they can get from the fathers. And yes. They all abuse it.

Also, you misquoted me. I didn't specify specifically "the mothers ask for too much" but the system in general. Men do not deserve to be subjected to financial ruin or have to pay thousands of dollars per month to their ex just because they're not in a relationship with them anymore. It's messed up

Are you a single mother?
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Sage JJ posted...

Rika_Furude posted...

Howl posted...

thelovefist posted...

Howl posted...

How the fuck does the custodial parent not have to account for the money that's spent?

I'm glad I don't have a shitty woman tbh.

Account to who exactly?

The parent who's paying the child support. The AG, the State. Anyone really would be better than no one.

but what if the man disapproves of all the money going into the mothers makeup and clothes? thats no good, child support needs to be unregulated, except for the mans payments which needs to be regulated so heavily he goes to prison for missing a payment

Child support isnt for the mothers makeup and clothing its for the childs needs which are discussed in court and the sum is based around. Its not difficult nor unfair to provide proof in the form of receipts that the money went where it was supposed to.

The problem is proving which money was used from the father and which money came from the mother.
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thelovefist posted...

YourDrunkFather posted...

I don't know how it works in the US but in Canada if you're a single mother the government will pay your end and give you up to $500+ per child and that's not even including what they can get from the fathers. And yes. They all abuse it.

Also, you misquoted me. I didn't specify specifically "the mothers ask for too much" but the system in general. Men do not deserve to be subjected to financial ruin or have to pay thousands of dollars per month to their ex just because they're not in a relationship with them anymore. It's messed up

Are you a single mother?

Obviously not. But that's completely irrelevant. Plus aren't you like a 30 year old virgin? Wtf do you know about any of this shit? I've actually lived through it
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i feel like alimony is worse

at least child support i supposed to be helping a child
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YourDrunkFather posted...

thelovefist posted...

YourDrunkFather posted...

I don't know how it works in the US but in Canada if you're a single mother the government will pay your end and give you up to $500+ per child and that's not even including what they can get from the fathers. And yes. They all abuse it.

Also, you misquoted me. I didn't specify specifically "the mothers ask for too much" but the system in general. Men do not deserve to be subjected to financial ruin or have to pay thousands of dollars per month to their ex just because they're not in a relationship with them anymore. It's messed up

Are you a single mother?

Obviously not. But that's completely irrelevant. Plus aren't you like a 30 year old virgin? Wtf do you know about any of this shit? I've actually lived through it

thelovefist posted...

I pay my ex spouse about $2,000 a month in child support. The amount paid is relative to what my income is and what she makes or what her monthly expenses are are irrelevant. The logic being that the child(ren) should reap the benefits of whatever the paying for parent makes.

Accounting for every purchase / dollar spent of this month would be impractical. If they're spending on frivalous things and the child(ren) are not reaping the benefit then this is considered a grievance which would be settled in court.

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Howl posted...

I just don't understand how the fuck such an obviously terrible system remains in place as law.

Because the system doesn't give a shit about building families

They only care about making money

thelovefist posted...

YourDrunkFather posted...

thelovefist posted...

YourDrunkFather posted...

I don't know how it works in the US but in Canada if you're a single mother the government will pay your end and give you up to $500+ per child and that's not even including what they can get from the fathers. And yes. They all abuse it.

Also, you misquoted me. I didn't specify specifically "the mothers ask for too much" but the system in general. Men do not deserve to be subjected to financial ruin or have to pay thousands of dollars per month to their ex just because they're not in a relationship with them anymore. It's messed up

Are you a single mother?

Obviously not. But that's completely irrelevant. Plus aren't you like a 30 year old virgin? Wtf do you know about any of this shit? I've actually lived through it

thelovefist posted...

I pay my ex spouse about $2,000 a month in child support. The amount paid is relative to what my income is and what she makes or what her monthly expenses are are irrelevant. The logic being that the child(ren) should reap the benefits of whatever the paying for parent makes.

Accounting for every purchase / dollar spent of this month would be impractical. If they're spending on frivalous things and the child(ren) are not reaping the benefit then this is considered a grievance which would be settled in court.

That's nice. If you're actually defending being bent over like that then it's no wonder she left you. You're clearly an emasculated weakling
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YourDrunkFather posted...

thelovefist posted...

YourDrunkFather posted...

thelovefist posted...

YourDrunkFather posted...

I don't know how it works in the US but in Canada if you're a single mother the government will pay your end and give you up to $500+ per child and that's not even including what they can get from the fathers. And yes. They all abuse it.

Also, you misquoted me. I didn't specify specifically "the mothers ask for too much" but the system in general. Men do not deserve to be subjected to financial ruin or have to pay thousands of dollars per month to their ex just because they're not in a relationship with them anymore. It's messed up

Are you a single mother?

Obviously not. But that's completely irrelevant. Plus aren't you like a 30 year old virgin? Wtf do you know about any of this shit? I've actually lived through it

thelovefist posted...

I pay my ex spouse about $2,000 a month in child support. The amount paid is relative to what my income is and what she makes or what her monthly expenses are are irrelevant. The logic being that the child(ren) should reap the benefits of whatever the paying for parent makes.

Accounting for every purchase / dollar spent of this month would be impractical. If they're spending on frivalous things and the child(ren) are not reaping the benefit then this is considered a grievance which would be settled in court.

That's nice. If you're actually defending being bent over like that then it's no wonder she left you. You're clearly an emasculated weakling

#NUKEDEPLOYED
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It's a scam
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eston posted...

And child support is based on income, so it isn't a matter of the mom "asking for too much."

This in a lot of cases is entirely the case of the woman asking for too much. Think about situations where a guy gets a promotion or a new job and the woman takes him back to court to increase her CS order.

How is it fair for her to get more money now just because the man earns more? Her expenses haven't magically increased because the guy is making more money.

Basically this is a form of slavery where the non-custodial parent is no longer "entitled to the sweat of their brow."

Edit: I know I said the guy earlier but it could be a woman paying support as well but that's much less common.
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