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Balrog0 06/14/17 11:26:30 PM #1:	A neoliberal. Something about the overton window? Ask me anything I guess --- He would make his mark, if not on this tree, then on that wall; if not with teeth and claws, then with penknife and razor. <cite>Balrog0 posted [p:881131891] in I no longe... [t:75463082]...</cite> <quote>A neoliberal. Something about the overton window? Ask me anything I guess</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MakoReizei 06/14/17 11:27:17 PM #2:	why not a classical liberal. That's what I identify as --- http://i.imgur.com/K9jfKpU.png <cite>MakoReizei posted [p:881131934] in I no longe... [t:75463082]...</cite> <quote>why not a classical liberal. That's what I identify as</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Antifar 06/14/17 11:27:31 PM #3:	Why --- an aspirin the size of the sun. <cite>Antifar posted [p:881131953] in I no longe... [t:75463082]...</cite> <quote>Why</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
chill02 06/14/17 11:27:48 PM #4:	You ordered a cheeseburger and they added an extra cheese slice without realizing it, but they normally charge 50 cents for that what do you do --- Ave, true to Caesar. <cite>chill02 posted [p:881131973] in I no longe... [t:75463082]...</cite> <quote>You ordered a cheeseburger and they added an extra cheese slice without realizing it, but they normally charge 50 cents for that what do you do</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AlternativeFAQS 06/14/17 11:28:58 PM #5:	chill02 posted... You ordered a cheeseburger and they added an extra cheese slice without realizing it, but they normally charge 50 cents for that what do you do enjoy my extra cheese <cite>AlternativeFAQS posted [p:881132029] in I no longe... [t:75463082]...</cite> <quote><cite>chill02 posted...</cite> <quote>You ordered a cheeseburger and they added an extra cheese slice without realizing it, but they normally charge 50 cents for that what do you do</quote> enjoy my extra cheese</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ElatedVenusaur 06/14/17 11:29:21 PM #6:	Come now comrade, why not join the ranks of the Internationale? I jest. What draws you to the likes of Macron? <cite>ElatedVenusaur posted [p:881132057] in I no longe... [t:75463082]...</cite> <quote>Come now comrade, why not join the ranks of the Internationale? I jest. What draws you to the likes of Macron?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ForestLogic 06/14/17 11:30:26 PM #7:	I'm in a similar boat. Most of my ideology lines up with the concept of libertarianism, but most modern libertarians are too edgy, even for my standards. Like, they're not willing to budge on ANY stances regarding privatization/regulation and stuff. I agree with them on most of them, but the big turnoff for me is when it comes to environmental issues. I whole-heartedly wish free markets would solve all our environmental issues, but I feel like it's just too big of a risk to take. The anti-censorship and weapon rights and business rights and gay marriage and pot legalization and all that other good shit though, love it all. Despite that, can't really call myself a "libertarian". --- AKA Level 36 ForestWanderer / ObjectiveLogic http://www.poorcouplesfoodguide.com - Pizza Time! <cite>ForestLogic posted [p:881132120] in I no longe... [t:75463082]...</cite> <quote>I'm in a similar boat. Most of my ideology lines up with the concept of libertarianism, but most modern libertarians are too edgy, even for my standards. Like, they're not willing to budge on ANY stances regarding privatization/regulation and stuff. I agree with them on most of them, but the big turnoff for me is when it comes to environmental issues. I whole-heartedly wish free markets would solve all our environmental issues, but I feel like it's just too big of a risk to take. The anti-censorship and weapon rights and business rights and gay marriage and pot legalization and all that other good shit though, love it all. Despite that, can't really call myself a "libertarian".</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Balrog0 06/14/17 11:31:10 PM #8:	MakoReizei posted... why not a classical liberal. That's what I identify as Bourbon democrats and Goldwater Republicans are cool too, I'm just not one. I think social safety nets are better than bad, they're good. Antifar posted... Why I have accepted government as necessary, at least in current western culture. chill02 posted... You ordered a cheeseburger and they added an extra cheese slice without realizing it, but they normally charge 50 cents for that what do you do Depends entirely on what the cheeseburger typically costs, how much cheese it typically has, and what a hamburger costs. Most likely I'd eat it and not say anything though. --- He would make his mark, if not on this tree, then on that wall; if not with teeth and claws, then with penknife and razor. <cite>Balrog0 posted [p:881132158] in I no longe... [t:75463082]...</cite> <quote><cite>MakoReizei posted...</cite> <quote>why not a classical liberal. That's what I identify as</quote> Bourbon democrats and Goldwater Republicans are cool too, I'm just not one. I think social safety nets are better than bad, they're good. <cite>Antifar posted...</cite> <quote>Why</quote> I have accepted government as necessary, at least in current western culture. <cite>chill02 posted...</cite> <quote>You ordered a cheeseburger and they added an extra cheese slice without realizing it, but they normally charge 50 cents for that what do you do</quote> Depends entirely on what the cheeseburger typically costs, how much cheese it typically has, and what a hamburger costs. Most likely I'd eat it and not say anything though.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
myzz7 06/14/17 11:33:22 PM #9:	Balrog0 posted... I have accepted government as necessary, at least in current western culture. all political positions do except for anarchist and its derivatives this doesn't conflict with libertarinism. --- http://s10.postimage.org/mxioonsd1/gildavatar.gif http://gifgifs.com/res/0916/57ebaeea6c7a9047727112.gif <cite>myzz7 posted [p:881132275] in I no longe... [t:75463082]...</cite> <quote><cite>Balrog0 posted...</cite> <quote>I have accepted government as necessary, at least in current western culture.</quote> all political positions do except for anarchist and its derivatives this doesn't conflict with libertarinism.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Balrog0 06/14/17 11:37:27 PM #10:	ElatedVenusaur posted... Come now comrade, why not join the ranks of the Internationale? I jest. What draws you to the likes of Macron? I think markets are genuinely good, but especially the USA does too much to favor business, especially big business. But I think the interaction between labor and capital isn't bad per se; we just need to recognize that labor unions should be in equal footing with capital unions (ie, business). And, for another example, I prefer a carbon tax to complicated regulations or pure bans on emissions - problems like that require a 'technocracy' to solve, not a reliance on communism or capitalism in general. IMO. ForestLogic posted... I'm in a similar boat. Most of my ideology lines up with the concept of libertarianism, but most modern libertarians are too edgy, even for my standards. Like, they're not willing to budge on ANY stances regarding privatization/regulation and stuff. I agree with them on most of them, but the big turnoff for me is when it comes to environmental issues. I whole-heartedly wish free markets would solve all our environmental issues, but I feel like it's just too big of a risk to take. The anti-censorship and weapon rights and business rights and gay marriage and pot legalization and all that other good shit though, love it all. Despite that, can't really call myself a "libertarian". Pretty much, buddy. There are lots of wedge issues where I think I don't accept either libertarian or liberal/progressive stances. --- He would make his mark, if not on this tree, then on that wall; if not with teeth and claws, then with penknife and razor. <cite>Balrog0 posted [p:881132487] in I no longe... [t:75463082]...</cite> <quote><cite>ElatedVenusaur posted...</cite> <quote>Come now comrade, why not join the ranks of the Internationale? I jest. What draws you to the likes of Macron?</quote> I think markets are genuinely good, but especially the USA does too much to favor business, especially big business. But I think the interaction between labor and capital isn't bad per se; we just need to recognize that labor unions should be in equal footing with capital unions (ie, business). And, for another example, I prefer a carbon tax to complicated regulations or pure bans on emissions - problems like that require a 'technocracy' to solve, not a reliance on communism or capitalism in general. IMO. <cite>ForestLogic posted...</cite> <quote>I'm in a similar boat. Most of my ideology lines up with the concept of libertarianism, but most modern libertarians are too edgy, even for my standards. Like, they're not willing to budge on ANY stances regarding privatization/regulation and stuff. I agree with them on most of them, but the big turnoff for me is when it comes to environmental issues. I whole-heartedly wish free markets would solve all our environmental issues, but I feel like it's just too big of a risk to take. The anti-censorship and weapon rights and business rights and gay marriage and pot legalization and all that other good shit though, love it all. Despite that, can't really call myself a "libertarian".</quote> Pretty much, buddy. There are lots of wedge issues where I think I don't accept either libertarian or liberal/progressive stances.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Balrog0 06/14/17 11:40:09 PM #11:	myzz7 posted... Balrog0 posted... I have accepted government as necessary, at least in current western culture. all political positions do except for anarchist and its derivatives this doesn't conflict with libertarinism. I don't really accept minarchism as coherent. Otherwise, I'd accept that my ideas fit a broadly libertarian ideology, but that itself is contextual. American libertarianism isn't in step with me, and the more encompassing definition that includes both left and right variants isn't accepted here --- He would make his mark, if not on this tree, then on that wall; if not with teeth and claws, then with penknife and razor. <cite>Balrog0 posted [p:881132639] in I no longe... [t:75463082]...</cite> <quote><cite>myzz7 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Balrog0 posted...</cite> <quote>I have accepted government as necessary, at least in current western culture.</quote> all political positions do except for anarchist and its derivatives this doesn't conflict with libertarinism.</quote> I don't really accept minarchism as coherent. Otherwise, I'd accept that my ideas fit a broadly libertarian ideology, but that itself is contextual. American libertarianism isn't in step with me, and the more encompassing definition that includes both left and right variants isn't accepted here</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ForestLogic 06/14/17 11:41:00 PM #12:	I also roll my eyes at how many in-disguise conservatives call themselves libertarians. You see it a lot on Facebook when relevant pages post stuff making fun of the GOP and like, and you see all the in-the-closet Republicans getting testy in the comment threads. --- AKA Level 36 ForestWanderer / ObjectiveLogic http://www.poorcouplesfoodguide.com - Pizza Time! <cite>ForestLogic posted [p:881132673] in I no longe... [t:75463082]...</cite> <quote>I also roll my eyes at how many in-disguise conservatives call themselves libertarians. You see it a lot on Facebook when relevant pages post stuff making fun of the GOP and like, and you see all the in-the-closet Republicans getting testy in the comment threads.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EpicMickeyDrew 06/15/17 12:05:36 AM #13:	We get it you like books, congrats on your new job but no body cares. --- Just how, pray tell, does your dick "take life"? How could a dick take a life? - XciteMe <cite>EpicMickeyDrew posted [p:881134025] in I no longe... [t:75463082]...</cite> <quote>We get it you like books, congrats on your new job but no body cares.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Balrog0 06/15/17 12:23:22 AM #14:	EpicMickeyDrew posted... We get it you like books, congrats on your new job but no body cares. How can you see through me so easily? Are you someone's alt? I'm genuinely embarrassed --- He would make his mark, if not on this tree, then on that wall; if not with teeth and claws, then with penknife and razor. <cite>Balrog0 posted [p:881135060] in I no longe... [t:75463082]...</cite> <quote><cite>EpicMickeyDrew posted...</cite> <quote>We get it you like books, congrats on your new job but no body cares.</quote> How can you see through me so easily? Are you someone's alt? I'm genuinely embarrassed</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lightsasori 06/15/17 12:26:00 AM #15:	What's a neoliberal? --- "Yare yare daze" ~ Jotaro Kujo "Children are pure, they know who's the strongest." ~ MaskDeSmith <cite>Lightsasori posted [p:881135198] in I no longe... [t:75463082]...</cite> <quote>What's a neoliberal?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Clad 06/15/17 12:26:50 AM #16:	ForestLogic posted... I'm in a similar boat. Most of my ideology lines up with the concept of libertarianism, but most modern libertarians are too edgy, even for my standards. Like, they're not willing to budge on ANY stances regarding privatization/regulation and stuff. I agree with them on most of them, but the big turnoff for me is when it comes to environmental issues. I whole-heartedly wish free markets would solve all our environmental issues, but I feel like it's just too big of a risk to take. The anti-censorship and weapon rights and business rights and gay marriage and pot legalization and all that other good shit though, love it all. Despite that, can't really call myself a "libertarian". same --- "Conservatives are Nazi's." - scoobydoobydont <cite>Clad posted [p:881135238] in I no longe... [t:75463082]...</cite> <quote><cite>ForestLogic posted...</cite> <quote>I'm in a similar boat. Most of my ideology lines up with the concept of libertarianism, but most modern libertarians are too edgy, even for my standards. Like, they're not willing to budge on ANY stances regarding privatization/regulation and stuff. I agree with them on most of them, but the big turnoff for me is when it comes to environmental issues. I whole-heartedly wish free markets would solve all our environmental issues, but I feel like it's just too big of a risk to take. The anti-censorship and weapon rights and business rights and gay marriage and pot legalization and all that other good shit though, love it all. Despite that, can't really call myself a "libertarian".</quote> same</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kineth 06/15/17 12:30:21 AM #17:	I'm pretty much a Social Democrat at this point. --- If you're not looking for any honest discussion, agreement, meeting halfway or middle ground, don't bother arguing with me. Selfish narcissists need not apply. <cite>Kineth posted [p:881135429] in I no longe... [t:75463082]...</cite> <quote>I'm pretty much a Social Democrat at this point.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AmonAmarth 06/15/17 12:33:12 AM #18:	ElatedVenusaur posted... Come now comrade, why not join the ranks of the Internationale? I jest. What draws you to the likes of Macron? there is both Liberal Internationalism and Socialist Internationalism which one are you speaking of? ah you said comrade nvm --- i7-4790@ 3.6GHZ \| GA-Z97-HD3 \| ASUS GTX 960 2GB \| Samsung 850 EVO 250GB \| 1TB HDD \| CX750M \| 12GB DDR3 <cite>AmonAmarth posted [p:881135558] in I no longe... [t:75463082]...</cite> <quote><cite>ElatedVenusaur posted...</cite> <quote>Come now comrade, why not join the ranks of the Internationale? I jest. What draws you to the likes of Macron?</quote> there is both Liberal Internationalism and Socialist Internationalism which one are you speaking of? ah you said comrade nvm</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AmonAmarth 06/15/17 12:35:08 AM #19:	Lightsasori posted... What's a neoliberal? a modern politico-economic theory favouring free trade, privatization, minimal government intervention in business, reduced public expenditure on social services, etc -dictionary.com --- i7-4790@ 3.6GHZ \| GA-Z97-HD3 \| ASUS GTX 960 2GB \| Samsung 850 EVO 250GB \| 1TB HDD \| CX750M \| 12GB DDR3 <cite>AmonAmarth posted [p:881135646] in I no longe... [t:75463082]...</cite> <quote><cite>Lightsasori posted...</cite> <quote>What's a neoliberal?</quote> a modern politico-economic theory favouring free trade, privatization, minimal government intervention in business, reduced public expenditure on social services, etc -dictionary.com</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CE_gonna_CE 06/15/17 12:35:13 AM #20:	Liherals <cite>CE_gonna_CE posted [p:881135647] in I no longe... [t:75463082]...</cite> <quote>Liherals</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Pastryarchy 06/15/17 12:37:29 AM #21:	Balrog0 posted... neoliberal That was the guy from The Matrix, right? --- Let them eat cake. http://tryimg.com/8/2017/06/05/3BY9w.gif http://tryimg.com/8/2017/06/05/3Bstc.jpg <cite>Pastryarchy posted [p:881135748] in I no longe... [t:75463082]...</cite> <quote><cite>Balrog0 posted...</cite> <quote>neoliberal</quote> That was the guy from The Matrix, right?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ForestLogic 06/15/17 6:43:14 PM #22:	AmonAmarth posted... Lightsasori posted... What's a neoliberal? a modern politico-economic theory favouring free trade, privatization, minimal government intervention in business, reduced public expenditure on social services, etc -dictionary.com Doesn't that basically just describe the Tea Party movement? --- AKA Level 36 ForestWanderer / ObjectiveLogic http://www.poorcouplesfoodguide.com - Pizza Time! <cite>ForestLogic posted [p:881185196] in I no longe... [t:75463082]...</cite> <quote><cite>AmonAmarth posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Lightsasori posted...</cite> <quote>What's a neoliberal?</quote> a modern politico-economic theory favouring free trade, privatization, minimal government intervention in business, reduced public expenditure on social services, etc -dictionary.com</quote> Doesn't that basically just describe the Tea Party movement?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kineth 06/16/17 5:40:56 AM #23:	Tea Party isn't for free trade. --- If you're not looking for any honest discussion, agreement, meeting halfway or middle ground, don't bother arguing with me. Selfish narcissists need not apply. <cite>Kineth posted [p:881215074] in I no longe... [t:75463082]...</cite> <quote>Tea Party isn't for free trade.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ForestLogic 06/16/17 12:24:41 PM #24:	Kineth posted... Tea Party isn't for free trade. Ew. Fucking losers. --- AKA Level 36 ForestWanderer / ObjectiveLogic http://www.poorcouplesfoodguide.com - Pizza Time! <cite>ForestLogic posted [p:881230435] in I no longe... [t:75463082]...</cite> <quote><cite>Kineth posted...</cite> <quote>Tea Party isn't for free trade.</quote> Ew. Fucking losers.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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