Board 8 > A Feast For Crows Mafia: Topic 3 - Winter Friends Are Friends Forever

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MysteriousStan posted...

Han argues that Scare mentioned me as an easy mislynch so then I went on the defensive and voted him. Then turns around and says that I'm buddying up to Jeff because he suspects me. That's a no win scenario for me and is just Han trying to find reasons for his gut.

How do the points about Scare and Jeff supposedly contradict each other though?
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HanOfTheNekos posted...

As I said, Boko is known for being inactive. That's not an excuse. I do like that he's actually talking about the game now.

Is he?

Or is he just kind of whining that I voted for him?
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Leafeon13N posted...

The idea that boko only doesnt post day 1 is false. He also wont post any day after either.

That's not really fair to say, although I won't deny that this has happened in the past.
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HanOfTheNekos posted...

htaeD posted...

Stan, where was Hans big post about you?

I am going to blow your mind here.

Ok.


Get ready for this.


Press "ctrl+f".

I am beginning to think I have found the actual elite player!
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Turbo should be down on my list.

I changed his name from bngkier_mnwhatever and then forgot to move it around
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My Immortal posted...

Or is he just kind of whining that I voted for him?

uh, would you really define me probing you a bit on your reasoning as "whining?" I asked you like two questions.
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MI, how much would you say FFD has done relative to how much Boko has done?
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MajinZidane posted...

My Immortal posted...

Or is he just kind of whining that I voted for him?

uh, would you really define me probing you a bit on your reasoning as "whining?" I asked you like two questions.

Okay fair.

So I suppose the question should be worded:

Is he actually talking about the game or is he just talking about the fact that I voted for him.
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VeryInsane posted...

MI, how much would you say FFD has done relative to how much Boko has done?

It feels like more to start and then he just hasn't been around lately, but I'd have to go back and re-read to confirm that.
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https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/75445380/880909970

But I assume it was this post Stan talks about?
didnt help that Han made it long after he voted Stan
though I dont see Han claiming Stan didnt pace his posts out well or anything
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My Immortal posted...

Is he actually talking about the game or is he just talking about the fact that I voted for him.

How is asking someone about their vote not talking about the game? :)
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Boko does seem to be focusing on himself more than others
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MajinZidane posted...

My Immortal posted...

Is he actually talking about the game or is he just talking about the fact that I voted for him.

How is asking someone about their vote not talking about the game? :)

smiley face
kill it

more serious, Boko do you have a top scum/top town yet?
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I'm also still not a fan of Death, I still feel like his vote on Scare seemed extremely weak and doesn't seem like he's pressuring other suspicions of his (Stan/Leo IIRC)
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htaeD posted...

Boko does seem to be focusing on himself more than others

Thank you for stating more concisely what I was failing to.
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I think that's pretty atypical of Boko though

Reread B8MM2 a few months back and most of Boko's content in the earlier days was defending himself
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Or typical rather
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My Immortal posted...

htaeD posted...

Boko does seem to be focusing on himself more than others

Thank you for stating more concisely what I was failing to.

This is my memory of Boko to a tee


@MajinZidane please present a minimum 100 words on your mafia MO. I feel like the game needs it at this point. You are this enigma who had a fabled history but also turned into a filthy inactive after a while
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htaeD posted...

https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/75445380/880909970

But I assume it was this post Stan talks about?
didnt help that Han made it long after he voted Stan
though I dont see Han claiming Stan didnt pace his posts out well or anything

I'm 95% sure that's the correct post, yes.


My Immortal posted...

HanOfTheNekos posted...

As I said, Boko is known for being inactive. That's not an excuse. I do like that he's actually talking about the game now.

Is he?

Or is he just kind of whining that I voted for him?

It's way more than he provided the first topic!
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VeryInsane posted...

I'm also still not a fan of Death, I still feel like his vote on Scare seemed extremely weak and doesn't seem like he's pressuring other suspicions of his (Stan/Leo IIRC)

I did kinda forget that in the middle of all my eating/ISOing I confess
Leo's been softening me up by just being here and Stan I weakened on after I realized he was mostly asleep for the suspicious gap of activity
am trying to ask questions there tho
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...did you ever ISO me death
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and I still dont have a direct reason to think of Scare as town
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HanOfTheNekos posted...

As I said, Boko is known for being inactive. That's not an excuse. I do like that he's actually talking about the game now.

And I do feel better about Jeff as well.

MysteriousStan posted...

So getting to Han's big post about me. Seems he has a problem with the spacing of my posts at the beginning of the day. Well yeah, they were spaced out because I was playing a game and checking on this every so often.

That's not really the gist of it. I mean, I was really distracted yesterday and still am getting distracted today. It's not the spacing, it's the content.

Han argues that Scare mentioned me as an easy mislynch so then I went on the defensive and voted him. Then turns around and says that I'm buddying up to Jeff because he suspects me. That's a no win scenario for me and is just Han trying to find reasons for his gut.

It's completely different. Scare barely said a word about you - just that he thought you'd be an easy lynch. You moving on that is weird, and it only seems justified with you thinking that him saying that is dangerous to you.

JZ straight up said you were suspicious. That's a completely different situation, and your response was "yeah, I like you new guy".

I mean, there wasn't a lot of content going around during that time anyway so I was just commenting on stuff that I felt like commenting on. Granted, wasn't much cause I was doing other things as well.

Scare and JZ are not who I would consider active lynch leaders. There's really no reason for me to suspect/buddy up to them respectively simply because they commented on or suspected me.

VeryInsane posted...

...did you ever ISO me death

you were part of it yeah
you're just taking longer because you actually post a lot
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*are part of it
I should say
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I do like Hanof slightly more now that I have done my ISO of him
or at least he's not as uninvolved as my memory made him out to be
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bng_mmmk posted...

MysteriousStan posted...

Han argues that Scare mentioned me as an easy mislynch so then I went on the defensive and voted him. Then turns around and says that I'm buddying up to Jeff because he suspects me. That's a no win scenario for me and is just Han trying to find reasons for his gut.

How do the points about Scare and Jeff supposedly contradict each other though?

Well let's say I started targeting Jeff instead. Then it's counter-suspicion. If I say that Scare looks good, I could still be called out on buddying up to him so that he doesn't have a mind to vote for the easy lynch guy. Han could flip this anyway to make it align with his gut.

MysteriousStan posted...

Scare and JZ are not who I would consider active lynch leaders. There's really no reason for me to suspect/buddy up to them respectively simply because they commented on or suspected me.

If you are Scum (hint: you are), then there are very good reasons to suspect/buddy up with them!

The main issue with Scare - you going after him is someone looking for a reason to go after somebody. It's flimsy and transparent as hell.
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Do you currently suspect Han, Stan?
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MysteriousStan posted...

bng_mmmk posted...

MysteriousStan posted...

Han argues that Scare mentioned me as an easy mislynch so then I went on the defensive and voted him. Then turns around and says that I'm buddying up to Jeff because he suspects me. That's a no win scenario for me and is just Han trying to find reasons for his gut.

How do the points about Scare and Jeff supposedly contradict each other though?

Well let's say I started targeting Jeff instead. Then it's counter-suspicion. If I say that Scare looks good, I could still be called out on buddying up to him so that he doesn't have a mind to vote for the easy lynch guy. Han could flip this anyway to make it align with his gut.

So to be clear, you think Han is town?
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Damn very insane ninjas
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MysteriousStan posted...

If I say that Scare looks good, I could still be called out on buddying up to him so that he doesn't have a mind to vote for the easy lynch guy.

No because that's dumb as hell.

You were directly in communication with Jeff, who directly said you were suspicious UNLIKE Scare.

How is this distinction hard for you? Only Scum pays this little attention to what they're doing in game.
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be wary of absolutes, Han
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with that I mean, town can absolutely pay little attention too
(and in fact I'd expect scum to pay more attention)
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Town are truthful though, and Scum are lying.

This defense is so convoluted it hurts.
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I think Han's town yeah. I mentioned earlier that there was only a small group of players that Han could be referring to as his number one scum target in his first post. I was in that group and he pretty much immediately votes me. I like the consistency there.

Immediately votes me when he got back that is.

HanOfTheNekos posted...

Town are truthful though, and Scum are lying.

This defense is so convoluted it hurts.

are you still talking about his posts or mine?
because I wasnt defending so much as questioning your worldview
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Ah, alright, I thought it was kinda weird you were insisting Han was trying to make up reasons for his gut.
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MysteriousStan posted...

I think Han's town yeah. I mentioned earlier that there was only a small group of players that Han could be referring to as his number one scum target in his first post. I was in that group and he pretty much immediately votes me. I like the consistency there.

Han wouldn't make such a basic mistake as scum, anyway. He's above average on the "calculated" scale.
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htaeD posted...

HanOfTheNekos posted...

Town are truthful though, and Scum are lying.

This defense is so convoluted it hurts.

are you still talking about his posts or mine?
because I wasnt defending so much as questioning your worldview

His.

And trust me Death, I am more anti-absolute than anybody. I'm the guy who will say "I know the confirmed cop scanned this guy innocent and this guy led the lynch on Scum but we should just keep in mind that it's still possible he is Scum".

I'm very headstrong on my suspicions though, because if I'm not then I won't get my voice heard.
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bng_mmmk posted...

MysteriousStan posted...

I think Han's town yeah. I mentioned earlier that there was only a small group of players that Han could be referring to as his number one scum target in his first post. I was in that group and he pretty much immediately votes me. I like the consistency there.

Han wouldn't make such a basic mistake as scum, anyway. He's above average on the "calculated" scale.

Well, not if you ask Chris.
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and I am starting to realize I cant see what Chris is seeing in VI because I dont really have a good grasp of VI's usual playstyle to begin with
the ISO doesnt make him look bad to me
rocky start sure, but all of topic1 was rocky and jokey
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Death you've played with me for 7 years >_>
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Granted my playstyle has changed considerably since I first started but yeah
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yes
and still I dont have any proper tells on you
aside from you liking to ask other players a lot of questions which you did here too a bit
doesnt help that I am not good at remembering when your last scumgame was
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It was that Ulti game where you had a detective scan that inadvertently revealed my role

"Fun"
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bng_mmmk posted...

MysteriousStan posted...

I think Han's town yeah. I mentioned earlier that there was only a small group of players that Han could be referring to as his number one scum target in his first post. I was in that group and he pretty much immediately votes me. I like the consistency there.

Han wouldn't make such a basic mistake as scum, anyway. He's above average on the "calculated" scale.

Maybe but I still think it's a point in his favor and...

HanOfTheNekos posted...

htaeD posted...

HanOfTheNekos posted...

Town are truthful though, and Scum are lying.

This defense is so convoluted it hurts.

are you still talking about his posts or mine?
because I wasnt defending so much as questioning your worldview

His.

And trust me Death, I am more anti-absolute than anybody. I'm the guy who will say "I know the confirmed cop scanned this guy innocent and this guy led the lynch on Scum but we should just keep in mind that it's still possible he is Scum".

I'm very headstrong on my suspicions though, because if I'm not then I won't get my voice heard.

I also know I'm town so Han being so adamant about my lynch right off the bat and continuing to do so makes me feel good about him.

Stan, is there anyone you dislike other than Scare?
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VeryInsane posted...

It was that Ulti game where you had a detective scan that inadvertently revealed my role

"Fun"

see
I cant even picture that moment in my head anymore
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