o Son's School for FORCING his ALLEGIANCE to USA!!

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Full Throttle 06/09/17 10:41:55 PM #1:	Do you think the family should win their lawsuit? Yes No View Results Jamie Porter from Indiana is SUING her 8 y/o son's Teacher AND Principal claiming he was forced to recite the Pledge of Allegiance at School!! She said her son chose to sit quietly during the Pledge at Fuaqua(sp) Elementary in March and when asked why he wouldn't take part, the boy said he was protesting the US Government that he says are "Racist, Greedy and does not care about people" The teacher, Kelly McFarland then said to the child "then you should leave the country" and the grabbed him by the wrist and DRAGGED him to the principal's office. The mother is now seeking damages for compensation and punitive damages and for attorney fees. The lawsuit names both the Principal, Mary Beth Harris and Kelly McFarland. The Principal was said to have taken the boy out of the lunch line on the same day and FORCED him to recite the pledge with her as "practice". The lawsuit says the boy was made to "feel that he had done something terribly wrong and was in trouble" The school's lawyer, Jonathan Mayes said "The school corporation is reviewing the complaint with its counsel and has no comment at this time" Do you think the Mother should win the lawsuit? let's see what people think Kids reciting the pledge - http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2017/06/09/13/00459B6500000258-0-image-a-20_1497010040009.jpg http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2017/06/09/13/00459B7D00000258-0-image-a-21_1497010042231.jpg Mary Beth - Principal Heifer http://tinyurl.com/yb33n3qq --- call me mrduckbear, sweater monkeys. Everytime a GFAQS User Steps On A Bug, I'll Stop Posting for 24 HOURS I'm an Asian Liberal. RESIST The Alt-Right <cite>Full Throttle posted [p:880757471] in Indiana Mo... [t:75441560]...</cite> <quote> Do you think the family should win their lawsuit? Yes No View Results Jamie Porter from Indiana is SUING her 8 y/o son's Teacher AND Principal claiming he was forced to recite the Pledge of Allegiance at School!! She said her son chose to sit quietly during the Pledge at Fuaqua(sp) Elementary in March and when asked why he wouldn't take part, the boy said he was protesting the US Government that he says are "Racist, Greedy and does not care about people" The teacher, Kelly McFarland then said to the child "then you should leave the country" and the grabbed him by the wrist and DRAGGED him to the principal's office. The mother is now seeking damages for compensation and punitive damages and for attorney fees. The lawsuit names both the Principal, Mary Beth Harris and Kelly McFarland. The Principal was said to have taken the boy out of the lunch line on the same day and FORCED him to recite the pledge with her as "practice". The lawsuit says the boy was made to "feel that he had done something terribly wrong and was in trouble" The school's lawyer, Jonathan Mayes said "The school corporation is reviewing the complaint with its counsel and has no comment at this time" Do you think the Mother should win the lawsuit? let's see what people think Kids reciting the pledge - http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2017/06/09/13/00459B6500000258-0-image-a-20_1497010040009.jpg http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2017/06/09/13/00459B7D00000258-0-image-a-21_1497010042231.jpg Mary Beth - Principal Heifer http://tinyurl.com/yb33n3qq</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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gunplagirl 06/09/17 10:43:57 PM #3:	The teacher grabbed the student, and the ability to not participate in the pledge is lawfully defended free speech and there's plenty of cases where students won against their schools for it I hope the school loses badly --- Pokemon Moon FC: 1994-2190-5020 IGN: Vanessa <cite>gunplagirl posted [p:880757585] in Indiana Mo... [t:75441560]...</cite> <quote>The teacher grabbed the student, and the ability to not participate in the pledge is lawfully defended free speech and there's plenty of cases where students won against their schools for it I hope the school loses badly</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DarkChozoGhost 06/09/17 10:45:36 PM #4:	Fair, next. Regardless of how you feel about saying the pledge, i'ts not an absolute requirement, and that was extremely unprofessional. --- My sister's dog bit a hole in my Super Mario Land cartridge. It still works though - Skye Reynolds 3DS FC: 3239-5612-0115 <cite>DarkChozoGhost posted [p:880757663] in Indiana Mo... [t:75441560]...</cite> <quote>Fair, next. Regardless of how you feel about saying the pledge, i'ts not an absolute requirement, and that was extremely unprofessional.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
cjsdowg 06/09/17 10:46:27 PM #5:	Forcing someone to say the pledge kind of nullifies the pledge. --- Bender: Well, everybody, I just saved a turtle. What have you done with your lives? <cite>cjsdowg posted [p:880757711] in Indiana Mo... [t:75441560]...</cite> <quote>Forcing someone to say the pledge kind of nullifies the pledge.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Vicious_Dios 06/09/17 10:57:25 PM #6:	It could have been handled better, I agree. They shouldn't have touched him at all. However, I do find this to be rather ironic that the mother is now crying to the government for compensation after shitting all of her cockomamy theories bitching about the evil, spooky government on to this child who clearly doesn't know any better. --- S / K / Y / N / E Twitch/YouTube/GT: *Adzeta* <cite>Vicious_Dios posted [p:880758327] in Indiana Mo... [t:75441560]...</cite> <quote>It could have been handled better, I agree. They shouldn't have touched him at all. However, I do find this to be rather ironic that the mother is now crying to the government for compensation after shitting all of her cockomamy theories bitching about the evil, spooky government on to this child who clearly doesn't know any better.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Skye Reynolds 06/09/17 11:02:38 PM #7:	If the case takes place in Indiana, the mother will probably be awarded $5 in damages and a coupon for a free meal at Denny's. <cite>Skye Reynolds posted [p:880758636] in Indiana Mo... [t:75441560]...</cite> <quote>If the case takes place in Indiana, the mother will probably be awarded $5 in damages and a coupon for a free meal at Denny's.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Skye Reynolds 06/09/17 11:05:15 PM #8:	This kinda seems like a story where everyone's the villain. I hate to see someone push their hatred for their country on their child like that. That 8 year old boy didn't make up his mind that the government is greedy and racist. At the same time, you can't mandate allegiance and you can't physically drag a kid by their wrist for being unpatriotic. <cite>Skye Reynolds posted [p:880758797] in Indiana Mo... [t:75441560]...</cite> <quote>This kinda seems like a story where everyone's the villain. I hate to see someone push their hatred for their country on their child like that. That 8 year old boy didn't make up his mind that the government is greedy and racist. At the same time, you can't mandate allegiance and you can't physically drag a kid by their wrist for being unpatriotic.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
iPhone_7 06/09/17 11:05:31 PM #9:	People should be forced to do the pledge of allegiance at least once every day. Those that disagree are commies. --- Sig User Logic http://i.imgur.com/lA5fm7w.jpg <cite>iPhone_7 posted [p:880758814] in Indiana Mo... [t:75441560]...</cite> <quote>People should be forced to do the pledge of allegiance at least once every day. Those that disagree are commies.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bloodychess 06/09/17 11:05:55 PM #10:	Full Throttle posted... the boy said he was protesting the US Government that he says are "Racist, Greedy and does not care about people" Oh, to be a fly on the wall in that household --- Knowledge is power, power corrupts. Study hard and become evil. <cite>Bloodychess posted [p:880758844] in Indiana Mo... [t:75441560]...</cite> <quote><cite>Full Throttle posted...</cite> <quote>the boy said he was protesting the US Government that he says are "Racist, Greedy and does not care about people"</quote> Oh, to be a fly on the wall in that household</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
YookaLaylee 06/09/17 11:06:52 PM #11:	Skye Reynolds posted... This kinda seems like a story where everyone's the villain. I hate to see someone push their hatred for their country on their child like that. That 8 year old boy didn't make up his mind that the government is greedy and racist. At the same time, you can't mandate allegiance and you can't physically drag a kid by their wrist for being unpatriotic. This --- https://media.giphy.com/media/26gsuNHaqCPgziZYA/giphy.gif <cite>YookaLaylee posted [p:880758889] in Indiana Mo... [t:75441560]...</cite> <quote><cite>Skye Reynolds posted...</cite> <quote>This kinda seems like a story where everyone's the villain. I hate to see someone push their hatred for their country on their child like that. That 8 year old boy didn't make up his mind that the government is greedy and racist. At the same time, you can't mandate allegiance and you can't physically drag a kid by their wrist for being unpatriotic.</quote> This</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ThePieReborn 06/09/17 11:07:31 PM #12:	Skye Reynolds posted... This kinda seems like a story where everyone's the villain. I hate to see someone push their hatred for their country on their child like that. That 8 year old boy didn't make up his mind that the government is greedy and racist. At the same time, you can't mandate allegiance and you can't physically drag a kid by their wrist for being unpatriotic. Frankly it boils down to the kid not wanting to say the pledge. Barnette doesn't make any narrow statement on the justification for not wanting to say the pledge, it just says a kid can't be forced by the school to say the pledge. Unless the school has a dramatically different story to spin on the events, this is an incredibly straightforward case that boggles me that the teacher/principal in question wouldn't have been briefed on. Wiki page for anyone interested: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_Virginia_State_Board_of_Education_v._Barnette --- Party leader, passive-aggressive doormat, pasta eater extraordinaire! <cite>ThePieReborn posted [p:880758930] in Indiana Mo... [t:75441560]...</cite> <quote><cite>Skye Reynolds posted...</cite> <quote>This kinda seems like a story where everyone's the villain. I hate to see someone push their hatred for their country on their child like that. That 8 year old boy didn't make up his mind that the government is greedy and racist. At the same time, you can't mandate allegiance and you can't physically drag a kid by their wrist for being unpatriotic.</quote> Frankly it boils down to the kid not wanting to say the pledge. Barnette doesn't make any narrow statement on the justification for not wanting to say the pledge, it just says a kid can't be forced by the school to say the pledge. Unless the school has a dramatically different story to spin on the events, this is an incredibly straightforward case that boggles me that the teacher/principal in question wouldn't have been briefed on. Wiki page for anyone interested: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_Virginia_State_Board_of_Education_v._Barnette</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Omnislasher 06/09/17 11:10:45 PM #13:	Skye Reynolds posted... This kinda seems like a story where everyone's the villain. I hate to see someone push their hatred for their country on their child like that. That 8 year old boy didn't make up his mind that the government is greedy and racist. At the same time, you can't mandate allegiance and you can't physically drag a kid by their wrist for being unpatriotic. you ppl that accuse any dissenters, usually conscientious and rational, of 'hating their country' enable fascism and are stupid as shit fuck you <cite>Omnislasher posted [p:880759109] in Indiana Mo... [t:75441560]...</cite> <quote><cite>Skye Reynolds posted...</cite> <quote>This kinda seems like a story where everyone's the villain. I hate to see someone push their hatred for their country on their child like that. That 8 year old boy didn't make up his mind that the government is greedy and racist. At the same time, you can't mandate allegiance and you can't physically drag a kid by their wrist for being unpatriotic.</quote> you ppl that accuse any dissenters, usually conscientious and rational, of 'hating their country' enable fascism and are stupid as shit fuck you</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
scoobydoobydont 06/09/17 11:12:22 PM #14:	Full Throttle posted... and the grabbed him by the wrist and DRAGGED him to the principal's office. Literally textbook assault. Hope they win, the teacher and principal were completely out of line. --- http://i.imgur.com/z16bN1C.gif <cite>scoobydoobydont posted [p:880759205] in Indiana Mo... [t:75441560]...</cite> <quote><cite>Full Throttle posted...</cite> <quote>and the grabbed him by the wrist and DRAGGED him to the principal's office.</quote> Literally textbook assault. Hope they win, the teacher and principal were completely out of line.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bloodychess 06/09/17 11:12:22 PM #15:	Omnislasher posted... --- Knowledge is power, power corrupts. Study hard and become evil. <cite>Bloodychess posted [p:880759206] in Indiana Mo... [t:75441560]...</cite> <quote><cite>Omnislasher posted...</cite> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Omnislasher 06/09/17 11:13:48 PM #16:	Bloodychess posted... <cite>Omnislasher posted [p:880759277] in Indiana Mo... [t:75441560]...</cite> <quote><cite>Bloodychess posted...</cite> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hexenherz 06/09/17 11:14:16 PM #17:	Any time I see that someone is touched / dragged publicly I instantly feel like they're entitled to some sort of recompense. In the military people aren't allowed to touch you for any reason unless it's an absolute must for safety reasons. I just feel like elementary schools shouldn't be treating people harsher than the military does >_>. <cite>Hexenherz posted [p:880759299] in Indiana Mo... [t:75441560]...</cite> <quote>Any time I see that someone is touched / dragged publicly I instantly feel like they're entitled to some sort of recompense. In the military people aren't allowed to touch you for any reason unless it's an absolute must for safety reasons. I just feel like elementary schools shouldn't be treating people harsher than the military does >_>.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Omnislasher 06/09/17 11:18:07 PM #18:	Hexenherz posted... Any time I see that someone is touched / dragged publicly I instantly feel like they're entitled to some sort of recompense. In the military people aren't allowed to touch you for any reason unless it's an absolute must for safety reasons. I just feel like elementary schools shouldn't be treating people harsher than the military does >_>. what about the more basic question of whether the child was in the wrong at all in the first place? just whether or not physically assaulting him was a too harsh or not too harsh reaction.. booooring <cite>Omnislasher posted [p:880759545] in Indiana Mo... [t:75441560]...</cite> <quote><cite>Hexenherz posted...</cite> <quote>Any time I see that someone is touched / dragged publicly I instantly feel like they're entitled to some sort of recompense. In the military people aren't allowed to touch you for any reason unless it's an absolute must for safety reasons. I just feel like elementary schools shouldn't be treating people harsher than the military does >_>.</quote> what about the more basic question of whether the child was in the wrong at all in the first place? just whether or not physically assaulting him was a too harsh or not too harsh reaction.. booooring</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ThePieReborn 06/09/17 11:19:36 PM #19:	Omnislasher posted... what about the more basic question of whether the child was in the wrong at all in the first place? That question was already answered in 1943. --- Party leader, passive-aggressive doormat, pasta eater extraordinaire! <cite>ThePieReborn posted [p:880759640] in Indiana Mo... [t:75441560]...</cite> <quote><cite>Omnislasher posted...</cite> <quote>what about the more basic question of whether the child was in the wrong at all in the first place?</quote> That question was already answered in 1943.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hexenherz 06/09/17 11:20:21 PM #20:	Uh... last I checked it's a free country with freedom of expression and speech and people aren't (or shouldn't be) forced to recite something for the sake of reciting it, especially when they don't really have a good understanding of the meaning of that thing. <cite>Hexenherz posted [p:880759688] in Indiana Mo... [t:75441560]...</cite> <quote>Uh... last I checked it's a free country with freedom of expression and speech and people aren't (or shouldn't be) forced to recite something for the sake of reciting it, especially when they don't really have a good understanding of the meaning of that thing.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Crazyman93 06/09/17 11:21:03 PM #21:	He has a right not to say it. On the other hand... Parents are probably awful if he's using "I hate the Government" as his excuse rather than the typical childhood excuse of "I don't feel like it." --- let's lubricate friction material! ~nickels, Cars & Trucks <cite>Crazyman93 posted [p:880759740] in Indiana Mo... [t:75441560]...</cite> <quote>He has a right not to say it. On the other hand... Parents are probably awful if he's using "I hate the Government" as his excuse rather than the typical childhood excuse of "I don't feel like it."</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JE19426 06/09/17 11:21:24 PM #22:	Omnislasher posted... what about the more basic question of whether the child was in the wrong at all in the first place? Wrong in what way? He has every right to refuse to take the pledge of allegiance, and that's what he was apparently punished for. <cite>JE19426 posted [p:880759765] in Indiana Mo... [t:75441560]...</cite> <quote><cite>Omnislasher posted...</cite> <quote>what about the more basic question of whether the child was in the wrong at all in the first place? </quote> Wrong in what way? He has every right to refuse to take the pledge of allegiance, and that's what he was apparently punished for.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
scoobydoobydont 06/09/17 11:23:09 PM #23:	Omnislasher posted... what about the more basic question of whether the child was in the wrong at all in the first place? The child is 100% right. Demanding nationalistic "loyalty", from children no less, is morally reprehensible. It's literally indoctrination. --- http://i.imgur.com/z16bN1C.gif <cite>scoobydoobydont posted [p:880759873] in Indiana Mo... [t:75441560]...</cite> <quote><cite>Omnislasher posted...</cite> <quote>what about the more basic question of whether the child was in the wrong at all in the first place?</quote> The child is 100% right. Demanding nationalistic "loyalty", from children no less, is morally reprehensible. It's literally indoctrination.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Skye Reynolds 06/09/17 11:34:14 PM #24:	Omnislasher posted... you ppl that accuse any dissenters, usually conscientious and rational, of 'hating their country' enable fascism and are stupid as shit Yeah, yeah, yeah. To an extremist, anyone who isn't like-minded is the opposite extreme. <cite>Skye Reynolds posted [p:880760465] in Indiana Mo... [t:75441560]...</cite> <quote><cite>Omnislasher posted...</cite> <quote>you ppl that accuse any dissenters, usually conscientious and rational, of 'hating their country' enable fascism and are stupid as shit</quote> Yeah, yeah, yeah. To an extremist, anyone who isn't like-minded is the opposite extreme.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gunplagirl 06/10/17 3:29:19 PM #25:	Skye Reynolds posted... This kinda seems like a story where everyone's the villain. I hate to see someone push their hatred for their country on their child like that. That 8 year old boy didn't make up his mind that the government is greedy and racist. At the same time, you can't mandate allegiance and you can't physically drag a kid by their wrist for being unpatriotic. I can name entire countries where most if not all the childen hate or fear the united States. It isn't surprising at all that children in our own country know how terrible we are. --- Pokemon Moon FC: 1994-2190-5020 IGN: Vanessa <cite>gunplagirl posted [p:880791103] in Indiana Mo... [t:75441560]...</cite> <quote><cite>Skye Reynolds posted...</cite> <quote>This kinda seems like a story where everyone's the villain. I hate to see someone push their hatred for their country on their child like that. That 8 year old boy didn't make up his mind that the government is greedy and racist. At the same time, you can't mandate allegiance and you can't physically drag a kid by their wrist for being unpatriotic.</quote> I can name entire countries where most if not all the childen hate or fear the united States. It isn't surprising at all that children in our own country know how terrible we are.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Skye Reynolds 06/10/17 3:30:06 PM #26:	gunplagirl posted... how terrible we are. I thought you were Canadian. <_< <cite>Skye Reynolds posted [p:880791147] in Indiana Mo... [t:75441560]...</cite> <quote><cite>gunplagirl posted...</cite> <quote>how terrible we are.</quote> I thought you were Canadian. <_<</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sanktu_Vyvorant 06/10/17 3:41:08 PM #27:	The whole "pledge of allegiance" thing is stupid to begin with --- "You know that NATO didn't exist before 9/11, right?" - Mal_Fet https://imgur.com/a/TmVPI <cite>Sanktu_Vyvorant posted [p:880791823] in Indiana Mo... [t:75441560]...</cite> <quote>The whole "pledge of allegiance" thing is stupid to begin with</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gunplagirl 06/10/17 3:44:58 PM #28:	Skye Reynolds posted... gunplagirl posted... how terrible we are. I thought you were Canadian. <_< No, but if I could be I would be --- Pokemon Moon FC: 1994-2190-5020 IGN: Vanessa <cite>gunplagirl posted [p:880792054] in Indiana Mo... [t:75441560]...</cite> <quote><cite>Skye Reynolds posted...</cite> <quote><cite>gunplagirl posted...</cite> <quote>how terrible we are.</quote> I thought you were Canadian. <_<</quote> No, but if I could be I would be</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
eston 06/10/17 3:50:55 PM #29:	My first reaction was "is that really something an 8 year old would come up with?" But upon further reflection, I have a friend whose son is 9 and that 100% sounds like something he would say and do. Sometimes we don't give kids enough credit --- http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i215/estonc/grizzly_bear_chairs_2.jpg http://i.imgur.com/8kjZU.jpg <cite>eston posted [p:880792446] in Indiana Mo... [t:75441560]...</cite> <quote>My first reaction was "is that really something an 8 year old would come up with?" But upon further reflection, I have a friend whose son is 9 and that 100% sounds like something he would say and do. Sometimes we don't give kids enough credit</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Current Events > Indiana Mom is SUING her 8 y/o Son's School for FORCING his ALLEGIANCE to USA!! (+) Yeah! (+)

Current Events > Indiana Mom is SUING her 8 y/o Son's School for FORCING his ALLEGIANCE to USA!!