Poll of the Day > Edgar Allen Poe married his 13 year old first cousin when he was 26.

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Dreaming_King
06/09/17 4:33:19 PM
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Why do we make kids in school read his stuff again?
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LaggnFragnLarry
06/09/17 4:36:34 PM
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i always thought the raven was overrated
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OhhhJa
06/09/17 4:41:10 PM
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Dreaming_King posted...
Why do we make kids in school read his stuff again?

If we held stuff like that against famous historical figures and artists we'd probably have to rule out just about everyone
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jamieyello3
06/09/17 4:48:28 PM
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OhhhJa posted...
If we held stuff like that against famous historical figures and artists we'd probably have to rule out just about everyone

Like Bill Cosby.
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Krow_Incarnate
06/09/17 4:49:19 PM
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Go back to making shitty weapons.
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InfernalFive
06/09/17 4:51:12 PM
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OhhhJa
06/09/17 5:00:32 PM
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jamieyello3 posted...
OhhhJa posted...
If we held stuff like that against famous historical figures and artists we'd probably have to rule out just about everyone

Like Bill Cosby.

Not really a valid comparison. Back when edgar Allen Poe was alive it wasn't out of the ordinary to marry either young girls or your 1st cousin . Of course it's gross now
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Dreaming_King
06/09/17 5:16:19 PM
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OhhhJa posted...
jamieyello3 posted...
OhhhJa posted...
If we held stuff like that against famous historical figures and artists we'd probably have to rule out just about everyone

Like Bill Cosby.

Not really a valid comparison. Back when edgar Allen Poe was alive it wasn't out of the ordinary to marry either young girls or your 1st cousin . Of course it's gross now

But both? Yeah it was weird back then too. He forged her signature on the marriage license and falsified her age by saying she was 21. Since otherwise it probably wouldn't have gone through.
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Dreaming_King
06/09/17 5:24:26 PM
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InfernalFive posted...
Got a pic of your latest sword design bruh?

No, been too busy to draw much, but I have the weekend off so I might whip something up.

I do have this intelligence test though, just match the correct weapon with its element. Easy.
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yutterh
06/09/17 5:27:28 PM
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Dreaming_King posted...
OhhhJa posted...
jamieyello3 posted...
OhhhJa posted...
If we held stuff like that against famous historical figures and artists we'd probably have to rule out just about everyone

Like Bill Cosby.

Not really a valid comparison. Back when edgar Allen Poe was alive it wasn't out of the ordinary to marry either young girls or your 1st cousin . Of course it's gross now

But both? Yeah it was weird back then too. He forged her signature on the marriage license and falsified her age by saying she was 21. Since otherwise it probably wouldn't have gone through.


yeah underage marriage was going out by his time. The cousin thing is actually pretty new by world history standards.
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OhhhJa
06/09/17 5:29:58 PM
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yutterh posted...
Dreaming_King posted...
OhhhJa posted...
jamieyello3 posted...
OhhhJa posted...
If we held stuff like that against famous historical figures and artists we'd probably have to rule out just about everyone

Like Bill Cosby.

Not really a valid comparison. Back when edgar Allen Poe was alive it wasn't out of the ordinary to marry either young girls or your 1st cousin . Of course it's gross now

But both? Yeah it was weird back then too. He forged her signature on the marriage license and falsified her age by saying she was 21. Since otherwise it probably wouldn't have gone through.


yeah underage marriage was going out by his time. The cousin thing is actually pretty new by world history standards.

Idk I've still heard lots of stories of people in the early 1900s marrying women in their early teens
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yutterh
06/09/17 5:45:24 PM
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OhhhJa posted...
yutterh posted...
Dreaming_King posted...
OhhhJa posted...
jamieyello3 posted...
OhhhJa posted...
If we held stuff like that against famous historical figures and artists we'd probably have to rule out just about everyone

Like Bill Cosby.

Not really a valid comparison. Back when edgar Allen Poe was alive it wasn't out of the ordinary to marry either young girls or your 1st cousin . Of course it's gross now

But both? Yeah it was weird back then too. He forged her signature on the marriage license and falsified her age by saying she was 21. Since otherwise it probably wouldn't have gone through.


yeah underage marriage was going out by his time. The cousin thing is actually pretty new by world history standards.

Idk I've still heard lots of stories of people in the early 1900s marrying women in their early teens


It was legal but you need the family to sign a document if they are under the age of 21. This happened mid 1600 century. then the napoleonic code in 1804 changed it to 15 for girls and 18 for boys. Poe was born in 1809. and by the time he married her i am sure the code was widely adopted by then. As for the cousin thing that didn't happen in the US tell 1880's and didn't start getting widely adopted tell 1920's. So yes uinderage marriage and 1st cousins is a new trend that happened in only the passed 200 years. Less time then how long long the united states has existed independently.

Sources
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cousin_marriage
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_of_consent
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Mead
06/09/17 6:00:13 PM
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Jerry Lee Lewis, the singer of Great Balls of Fire, did almost the same thing

Married his first cousin when he was 22 and she was 13, ended up having a couple kids with her. They ended up having to have a second ceremony because at the time he was still technically married to another woman.
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Sensual_T_Rex
06/09/17 6:00:19 PM
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Dreaming_King posted...
InfernalFive posted...
Got a pic of your latest sword design bruh?

No, been too busy to draw much, but I have the weekend off so I might whip something up.

I do have this intelligence test though, just match the correct weapon with its element. Easy.
ki5hRpQ


Hammer= lighting
Bow= wind
Axe= fire
Sword= ice
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ParanoidObsessive
06/09/17 6:13:53 PM
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OhhhJa posted...
Not really a valid comparison. Back when edgar Allen Poe was alive it wasn't out of the ordinary to marry either young girls or your 1st cousin . Of course it's gross now

And 500 years from now, plenty of things we take for granted make be considered terrible.

This is how human ethnocentricity works. Everyone thinks their own personal morality should apply to everyone else across space/time, and everyone else thinks they're an asshole.


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Mead
06/09/17 6:37:24 PM
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I wonder what things we do now that future people will be all wtf about

I bet it is wasting so much water in toilets
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Bugmeat
06/09/17 7:00:18 PM
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It's still legal to marry your first cousin in about half the U.S.
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OhhhJa
06/09/17 7:03:41 PM
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I think, by and large, people are turds and devoid of morality by default. Society just does a solid job of conditioning us out of our shittyness
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rjsilverthorn
06/09/17 7:37:24 PM
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Bugmeat posted...
It's still legal to marry your first cousin in about half the U.S.


It is legal to marry minors in a lot of states too https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_of_marriage_in_the_United_States
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yutterh
06/09/17 7:39:57 PM
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rjsilverthorn posted...
Bugmeat posted...
It's still legal to marry your first cousin in about half the U.S.


It is legal to marry minors in a lot of states too https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_of_marriage_in_the_United_States


Yes, but you have to have parental consent and judicial court papers. It isn't anywhere to how it was before.
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Mead
06/09/17 7:43:54 PM
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rjsilverthorn posted...
Bugmeat posted...
It's still legal to marry your first cousin in about half the U.S.


It is legal to marry minors in a lot of states too https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_of_marriage_in_the_United_States


Okay New Hampshire what the fuck
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rjsilverthorn
06/09/17 7:46:35 PM
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Mead posted...
rjsilverthorn posted...
Bugmeat posted...
It's still legal to marry your first cousin in about half the U.S.


It is legal to marry minors in a lot of states too https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_of_marriage_in_the_United_States


Okay New Hampshire what the fuck

This is actually a slightly better chart https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/table_marriage
But yeah, there is still a good bit of WTF on there.
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Mead
06/09/17 7:49:29 PM
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rjsilverthorn posted...
Mead posted...
rjsilverthorn posted...
Bugmeat posted...
It's still legal to marry your first cousin in about half the U.S.


It is legal to marry minors in a lot of states too https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_of_marriage_in_the_United_States


Okay New Hampshire what the fuck

This is actually a slightly better chart https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/table_marriage
But yeah, there is still a good bit of WTF on there.


Massachusetts why don't you take a seat over there
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Bugmeat
06/09/17 7:54:38 PM
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Mead posted...
rjsilverthorn posted...
Bugmeat posted...
It's still legal to marry your first cousin in about half the U.S.


It is legal to marry minors in a lot of states too https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_of_marriage_in_the_United_States

Okay New Hampshire what the fuck

Why are they worse than all of those states that have no minimum age?
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Mead
06/09/17 8:26:31 PM
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Bugmeat posted...
Mead posted...
rjsilverthorn posted...
Bugmeat posted...
It's still legal to marry your first cousin in about half the U.S.


It is legal to marry minors in a lot of states too https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_of_marriage_in_the_United_States

Okay New Hampshire what the fuck

Why are they worse than all of those states that have no minimum age?


Because they are all contigent on parental permission and more importantly a superior court judge approval
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yutterh
06/09/17 8:49:25 PM
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Mead posted...
Bugmeat posted...
Mead posted...
rjsilverthorn posted...
Bugmeat posted...
It's still legal to marry your first cousin in about half the U.S.


It is legal to marry minors in a lot of states too https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_of_marriage_in_the_United_States

Okay New Hampshire what the fuck

Why are they worse than all of those states that have no minimum age?


Because they are all contigent on parental permission and more importantly a superior court judge approval

Just because it is legal doesn't mean it is looked down upon. Most of the world would find that relationship disgusting and destroy them on social media. There is a reason why we don't hear any of this actually happening except super rare cases. Because it just isn't practically done.

http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2016/11/01/child-marriage-is-rare-in-the-u-s-though-this-varies-by-state/

Of the 57,800 Americans ages 15 to 17 who were married in 2014, an estimated 31,644 were girls and 26,156 were boys, with 55% being female and 45% male.


If you minus the boys from the girls, the minimum amount that males are over the age group is 5488. This is also assumed all those married in the age groups were in the same group. So we can't really know how many but it is only 31,644 girls of the age of 15-17 that get married. Which i am sure is a small percentage of the total american population of 15-17. So it is quite rare.
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RoboXgp89
06/09/17 8:58:07 PM
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with your first cousin you only have a 25% chance of having a deformed child so for the majority of people it's no big deal unless their kids have sex with another set of first cousins

It probably wasn't a big deal . Most mammals either don't live long enough or are smart enough not to have sex with their adult kids
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jamieyello3
06/09/17 9:06:50 PM
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RoboXgp89 posted...
25% chance of having a deformed child

It's waay less than that, idk where you got that number from.
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Conner4REAL
06/09/17 11:59:33 PM
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Dreaming_King posted...
Why do we make kids in school read his stuff again?



Cause Stephen king is too good a writer for kids to start off with and Clive barker is a more intense horror writer, but that's only course he is actually bat shit crazy and probably has axe murdered people (or worse. I'm not as inventive as him).
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