Poll of the Day > Where is the evidence that supports that Russia interfered with the US Election?

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Because I'm really honest. "I can't discuss this in an open setting" is not a valid reason when we know that events like the Gulf of Tonkin were completely fabricated by the US Government in the past.
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Is testimony not considered evidence?
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Mead posted...

Is testimony not considered evidence?

Can people lie?

Better yet, can people be given false information and believe they are telling the truth?
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Judgmenl posted...

Mead posted...

Is testimony not considered evidence?

Can people lie?

Better yet, can people be given false information and believe they are telling the truth?

Yeah

You didn't answer my question though. I have no choice but to declare that you are rude.
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Is Testimony evidence? Yes.

Is the Testimony reputable? There's no way to tell.

You want a primary source for this kind of thing. I wouldn't consider an executive's testimony as primary evidence. Executives can be given wrong or misleading information.

Am I still rude?
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Because they can't believe that Hillary could possibly lose without outside interference.
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It's really quite amazing how many people don't understand you don't just release evidence you have during an active investigation.
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Erik_P posted...

It's really quite amazing how many people don't understand you don't just release evidence you have during an active investigation.

This, or how time consuming multiple ongoing investigations are

Also glad that Comey called out how media outlets trying to report on classified information leads to miscommunication.
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didn't they say it was because there were multiple russian IP addresses that were associated with...somewhere in the US?

Let's be honest here. This whole investigation began because of a completely fabricated story by left wing media about Trump and Putin's "suspiciously close relationship and how it must mean putin helped him get elected. Its some tinfoil hat shit tbh. There was never any real evidence to open an investigation into Trump

Mead posted...

Is testimony not considered evidence?

Is the testimony from somebody who was in the room to witness the act?

Judgmenl posted...

Mead posted...

Is testimony not considered evidence?

Can people lie?

Better yet, can people be given false information and believe they are telling the truth?

Pretty much what got us into war with Iraq in the 90s when a diplomat's daughter, posing as a nurse, gave testimony that soldiers were going into hospitals and murdering infants then stealing the equipment. No evidence of any of that was ever found afterward.

Erik_P posted...

It's really quite amazing how many people don't understand you don't just release evidence you have during an active investigation.

Says the guy who used the existence of an investigation to assume guilt. Plus there *are* certain kinds of evidence which can be publicly released, especially when that part of the investigation is concluded. I believe that the intelligence agencies *still* haven't been allowed access to the servers themselves which were given to a DNC-hired third-party consulting firm which provided the intelligence agencies with their findings.

Of course, Erik is a German plant trying to further a divide with Russia. I'd give you guys the proof, but the investigation is still ongoing!
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I'm in a weird spot - I don't doubt that the election was hacked by Russians, but I think it was just some kids or something
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Lokarin posted...

I'm in a weird spot - I don't doubt that the election was hacked by Russians, but I think it was just some kids or something

The election wasn't hacked, which was already proven by the recount.
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Well we aren't the only ones to get attacked by Russia.

Unless you're going to argue the entire western world is in on this conspiracy.

Zeus is shook. His attempts at spinning Comey's testimony is really sad and pitiful to watch.
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If your government makes a claim without showing any evidence and takes actions based on just that claim you need to take to their word for it and never question your superior overlords for any of their actions.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BrDg8a0J4jE
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Erik_P posted...

Zeus is shook. His attempts at spinning Comey's testimony is really sad and pitiful to watch.

it's literally just like watching you

literally all zeus is doing is pretending to be a you that likes trump. he isn't even exaggerating anything, he's perfectly emulating you.

The only thing we've really came anywhere close to pinning on Russia is the leaking of Hillary's e-mails, and that's not really established. The whole thing with voter fraud or whatnot doesn't really have any weight to it. It's just something that got tacked on. It's also something MSNBC will never shut up about because if they talked about welfare or real problems they might accidentally expose one of the neo-liberal Democrats they're in bed with.

RCtheWSBC posted...

Also glad that Comey called out how media outlets trying to report on classified information leads to miscommunication.

Ha. That's a lie so blatant it's believable.

Erik_P posted...

Zeus is shook. His attempts at spinning Comey's testimony is really sad and pitiful to watch.

Erik is shook. His attempts to spin Comey's testimony into something meaningful is really sad and pathetic to watch, especially since Comey has repeatedly admitted that Trump was never a subject of the investigation which is something you've been insisting all along despite every fact saying otherwise.

It also confirmed that there's nothing concrete to any obstruction charge, given that Trump wasn't being investigated and the conversations themselves (which just comes down to Trump's word against Comey's) don't exactly support a claim of obstruction.

helly posted...

Erik_P posted...

Zeus is shook. His attempts at spinning Comey's testimony is really sad and pitiful to watch.

it's literally just like watching you

literally all zeus is doing is pretending to be a you that likes trump. he isn't even exaggerating anything, he's perfectly emulating you.

I'm not doing a damn thing. I've never professed any great like for Trump and pointing out the hilariously huge holes in arguments against him -- such as when Erik said that Trump rolling back an Obama-era EO would mean that nobody could breathe (despite the EO actually focusing on carbon output) -- doesn't mean any allegiance.

If I wanted to emulate Erik, it would involve shitposting tons of topics which amount to poorly-considered and worse-researched speculation. usually from either shady or biased sources. Of course, it's tough to go low enough to emulate Erik because it's an limbo pole of awfulness.
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