Current Events > Depression is self-induced.

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And I say that as someone who has been suffering from it for years.

How can a chemical imbalance in the brain be self-induced?

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SuperGamer5 posted...

How can a chemical imbalance in the brain be self-induced?

Attitude/beliefs influence your own brain's physical makeup. There is a definite mind/body connection.

You also said that the Warriors would lose to the Spurs.
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You're not a real doctor
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DoctorPiranha3 posted...

Attitude/beliefs influence your own brain's physical makeup. There is a definite mind/body connection.

Oh, you're stupid? Right on.

DoctorPiranha3 posted...

SuperGamer5 posted...

How can a chemical imbalance in the brain be self-induced?

Attitude/beliefs influence your own brain's physical makeup. There is a definite mind/body connection.

I mean, it's partially true, but it's not possible to have 100% control over your body.
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That's not true. The individual can take steps to overcome/cope with depression, which many are too unmotivated or otherwise unable (or even unaware) to do, but nobody just *decides* to be depressed.

Maybe it seems like that because you have depression
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reeekt posted...

That's not true. The individual can take steps to overcome/cope with depression, which many are too unmotivated or otherwise unable (or even unaware) to do, but nobody just *decides* to be depressed.

Okay, this is true. But on that token, none of us have freewill, and every emotion and action has been decided by our brain neurons.

The reason this topic smells like shit is because TC is talking out of his ass.
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Bandit_Keith posted...

The reason this topic smells like shit is because TC is talking out of his ass.

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People just abhor the truth. Case in point: this topic.

DoctorPiranha3 posted...

none of us have freewill, and every emotion and action has been decided by our brain neurons.

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The reason that depression is so high among young people today (especially high-school and college age students) is because the majority of them don't have a full-time job, and they have entirely too much free time. Young people are also spending way too much time indoors when they rave about wanting to go out into the world and explore nature, but make no effort to do so.

Our current culture also reinforces depression by making people think it's perfectly acceptable to be a lazy slug, lounge in your bed all day and think about how bored you are because you're "depressed". When young people put themselves into the mindset that their "depression" is a disease and they're supposed to just do as little as possible until they feel better, well, you're going to quickly have a lot of depressed people.

If someone opens up to you about their "depression", you will ultimately realize that 95% of the people who claim to have depression just describe depression as being tired (because they stay up too goddamn late on their phones or computers).

As someone who went through a month and a half of REAL depression (when my girlfriend was strangled by her step-father, the state did nothing about it, and we couldn't see each other for a long time.), 95% of people who claim to have depression do, in fact, inflict it on their selves.
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SuperGamer5 posted...

How can a chemical imbalance in the brain be self-induced?

https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/curious/201403/what-causes-depression-myths-about-chemical-imbalances
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DoctorPiranha3 posted...

People just abhor the truth. Case in point: this topic.

You are not a psychologist, or a therapist, or a medical professional, you just have a habit of making topics where you pretend to be deep despite lacking the knowledge and mental capacity to do so.

Stop digging yourself into a hole and close your account.
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Perascamin posted...

The reason that depression is so high among young people today (especially high-school and college age students) is because the majority of them don't have a full-time job, and they have entirely too much free time. Young people are also spending way too much time indoors when they rave about wanting to go out into the world and explore nature, but make no effort to do so.

Our current culture also reinforces depression by making people think it's perfectly acceptable to be a lazy slug, lounge in your bed all day and think about how bored you are because you're "depressed". When young people put themselves into the mindset that their "depression" is a disease and they're supposed to just do as little as possible until they feel better, well, you're going to quickly have a lot of depressed people.

If someone opens up to you about their "depression", you will ultimately realize that 95% of the people who claim to have depression just describe depression as being tired (because they stay up too goddamn late on their phones or computers).

As someone who went through a month and a half of REAL depression (when my girlfriend was strangled by her step-father, the state did nothing about it, and we couldn't see each other for a long time.), 95% of people who claim to have depression do, in fact, inflict it on their selves.

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Mods, lock this topic. This is a fucking lost cause.
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DoctorPiranha3 posted...

reeekt posted...

That's not true. The individual can take steps to overcome/cope with depression, which many are too unmotivated or otherwise unable (or even unaware) to do, but nobody just *decides* to be depressed.

Okay, this is true. But on that token, none of us have freewill, and every emotion and action has been decided by our brain neurons.

So... How can it be "self-induced" if there is no free will by which to define a "self"?
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chill02 posted...

DoctorPiranha3 posted...

People just abhor the truth. Case in point: this topic.

You are not a psychologist, or a therapist, or a medical professional, you just have a habit of making topics where you pretend to be deep despite lacking the knowledge and mental capacity to do so.

Stop digging yourself into a hole and close your account.

U mad breh?

DoctorPiranha3 posted...

chill02 posted...

DoctorPiranha3 posted...

People just abhor the truth. Case in point: this topic.

You are not a psychologist, or a therapist, or a medical professional, you just have a habit of making topics where you pretend to be deep despite lacking the knowledge and mental capacity to do so.

Stop digging yourself into a hole and close your account.

U mad breh?

Case in point.
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Perascamin posted...

The reason that depression is so high among young people today (especially high-school and college age students) is because the majority of them don't have a full-time job, and they have entirely too much free time. Young people are also spending way too much time indoors when they rave about wanting to go out into the world and explore nature, but make no effort to do so.

Our current culture also reinforces depression by making people think it's perfectly acceptable to be a lazy slug, lounge in your bed all day and think about how bored you are because you're "depressed". When young people put themselves into the mindset that their "depression" is a disease and they're supposed to just do as little as possible until they feel better, well, you're going to quickly have a lot of depressed people.

If someone opens up to you about their "depression", you will ultimately realize that 95% of the people who claim to have depression just describe depression as being tired (because they stay up too goddamn late on their phones or computers).

As someone who went through a month and a half of REAL depression (when my girlfriend was strangled by her step-father, the state did nothing about it, and we couldn't see each other for a long time.), 95% of people who claim to have depression do, in fact, inflict it on their selves.

The worst thing about people suffering from your particular brand of stupidity is that that they're so sure and arrogant about the stupid shit they're saying.
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Perascamin posted...

As someone who went through a month and a half of REAL depression (when my girlfriend was strangled by her step-father, the state did nothing about it, and we couldn't see each other for a long time.)

thats all it took to send you into what you claim is a "REAL" depression? wow you're incredibly weak. it's actually really pathetic that you try to bring that up for depression credibility. you're an embarrassment

No it's not.

Millennials posted...

Perascamin posted...

As someone who went through a month and a half of REAL depression (when my girlfriend was strangled by her step-father, the state did nothing about it, and we couldn't see each other for a long time.)

thats all it took to send you into what you claim is a "REAL" depression? wow you're incredibly weak. it's actually really pathetic that you try to bring that up for depression credibility. you're an embarrassment

Makes me think/hope that post was just a joke or satire about people like TC
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embarrassing topic
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Delirious_Beard posted...

CE topic

Millennials posted...

Perascamin posted...

As someone who went through a month and a half of REAL depression (when my girlfriend was strangled by her step-father, the state did nothing about it, and we couldn't see each other for a long time.)

thats all it took to send you into what you claim is a "REAL" depression? wow you're incredibly weak. it's actually really pathetic that you try to bring that up for depression credibility. you're an embarrassment

Pray tell, what's a valid reason for entering depression besides having your most cherished loved one taken away from you?
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SuperGamer5 posted...

How can a chemical imbalance in the brain be self-induced?

Uhh, why couldn't it?
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Perascamin posted...

The reason that depression is so high among young people today (especially high-school and college age students) is because the majority of them don't have a full-time job, and they have entirely too much free time. Young people are also spending way too much time indoors when they rave about wanting to go out into the world and explore nature, but make no effort to do so.

Our current culture also reinforces depression by making people think it's perfectly acceptable to be a lazy slug, lounge in your bed all day and think about how bored you are because you're "depressed". When young people put themselves into the mindset that their "depression" is a disease and they're supposed to just do as little as possible until they feel better, well, you're going to quickly have a lot of depressed people.

If someone opens up to you about their "depression", you will ultimately realize that 95% of the people who claim to have depression just describe depression as being tired (because they stay up too goddamn late on their phones or computers).

As someone who went through a month and a half of REAL depression (when my girlfriend was strangled by her step-father, the state did nothing about it, and we couldn't see each other for a long time.), 95% of people who claim to have depression do, in fact, inflict it on their selves.

-or also being 30k in debt from school
-finding it hard to find a decent job, especially a full time one
-standard of living is so fucking expensive

if anything milennials are hustling to make a living. The claims about milennials being lazy or wanting handouts are untrue. We got dealt with a bad hand from previous generations


but this doesn't include depression from traumatic events like losing a loved one

Anyway, if you are depressed for a long time, your brained is wired differently and its hard to get out of what you feel as it eventually becomes natural.
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Not a bad topic

And the long posts weren't that bad either

I've got my moments, but I keep it together for the most part

I do think a lot of sadness is often caused by the depressed person themselves. There are things that depressed people do that makes them more depressed later on... like cutting themselves off from their friends and family. Not answering calls and shit. There are people trying to help and a lot of times they aren't welcomed by the depressed. Then they stop communicating altogether.

If you make no effort to be happy, you won't be. You have to try to connect. Tell a joke. Do it in a funny way or something. Shit, it's what I do.
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kewldude475 posted...

It's not self-induced, it's caused by a chemical imbalance in the brain and can be exacerbated by stressful real-life concerns. Depression medication helps put the chemicals back in order.

They can also ensure your brain is incapable of regulating itself ever again.
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um no.

i didn't decide to become depressed and start seriously thinking about killing myself. if i hadn't reached out to my mom for help and started taking antidepressants i'm pretty sure i would have actually committed suicide.

same for my little brother, mom, multiple aunts, and my grandma. all of them went through serious bouts of depession where they wanted to kill themselves. got help and put on antidepressants and have lived successful lives.

it comes from my maternal grandmother's family. she has sisters and cousins that actually killed themselves.

tell me that isn't something more than "self-induced"

i fucking dare you.
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Perascamin posted...

Millennials posted...

Perascamin posted...

As someone who went through a month and a half of REAL depression (when my girlfriend was strangled by her step-father, the state did nothing about it, and we couldn't see each other for a long time.)

thats all it took to send you into what you claim is a "REAL" depression? wow you're incredibly weak. it's actually really pathetic that you try to bring that up for depression credibility. you're an embarrassment

Pray tell, what's a valid reason for entering depression besides having your most cherished loved one taken away from you?

Something that doesn't wear off after 1 1/2 fucking months. Seriously, depression is like that, but 6+ months and for seemingly no reason other than your brain wasn't wired correctly.
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Yeah, no. Not taking this bait.
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Just FYI the "chemical imbalance" thing is no longer taken seriously by psychiatrists anymore. Your brain is more complex than just a bunch of chemicals being in the right amounts. Depression isn't just "oh I'm lacking serotonin for some genetic reason outside of my control, I need more serotonin and the only way to get that is through medication". Depression is absolutely influenced by your outlook, and is usually caused by environmental circumstances, some of which you have control over.

And before you say anything, I went through it once before and I'm going through it again. I can pinpoint the reasons and circumstances. It isn't just a chemical imbalance out of nowhere.
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weapon_d00d816 posted...

Just FYI the "chemical imbalance" thing is no longer taken seriously by psychiatrists anymore. Your brain is more complex than just a bunch of chemicals being in the right amounts. Depression isn't just "oh I'm lacking serotonin for some genetic reason outside of my control, I need more serotonin and the only way to get that is through medication". Depression is absolutely influenced by your outlook, and is usually caused by environmental circumstances, some of which you have control over.

And before you say anything, I went through it once before and I'm going through it again. I can pinpoint the reasons and circumstances. It isn't just a chemical imbalance out of nowhere.

I thought it was also hereditary, no?

weapon dude is right
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DoctorPiranha3 posted...

And I say that as someone who has been suffering from it for years.

And I say it's a reaction to circumstances around you that you have no real control over. And I'm clinically diagnosed.
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Dash_Harber posted...

weapon_d00d816 posted...

Just FYI the "chemical imbalance" thing is no longer taken seriously by psychiatrists anymore. Your brain is more complex than just a bunch of chemicals being in the right amounts. Depression isn't just "oh I'm lacking serotonin for some genetic reason outside of my control, I need more serotonin and the only way to get that is through medication". Depression is absolutely influenced by your outlook, and is usually caused by environmental circumstances, some of which you have control over.

And before you say anything, I went through it once before and I'm going through it again. I can pinpoint the reasons and circumstances. It isn't just a chemical imbalance out of nowhere.

I thought it was also hereditary, no?

Some people are more susceptible to it, yes, but it isn't the sole cause.
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You really think antidepressants are helping you?
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weapon_d00d816 posted...

Dash_Harber posted...

weapon_d00d816 posted...

Just FYI the "chemical imbalance" thing is no longer taken seriously by psychiatrists anymore. Your brain is more complex than just a bunch of chemicals being in the right amounts. Depression isn't just "oh I'm lacking serotonin for some genetic reason outside of my control, I need more serotonin and the only way to get that is through medication". Depression is absolutely influenced by your outlook, and is usually caused by environmental circumstances, some of which you have control over.

And before you say anything, I went through it once before and I'm going through it again. I can pinpoint the reasons and circumstances. It isn't just a chemical imbalance out of nowhere.

I thought it was also hereditary, no?

Some people are more susceptible to it, yes, but it isn't the sole cause.

But you said it had nothing to do with genes, right?

Perascamin posted...

As someone who went through a month and a half of REAL depression (when my girlfriend was strangled by her step-father, the state did nothing about it, and we couldn't see each other for a long time.), 95% of people who claim to have depression do, in fact, inflict it on their selves.

Right fam, the depression I was experiencing earlier this year over being diagnosed as a stage iv colon cancer patient is just "self-inflicted"

Protip: Fuck off.
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weapon_d00d816 posted...

Just FYI the "chemical imbalance" thing is no longer taken seriously by psychiatrists anymore. Your brain is more complex than just a bunch of chemicals being in the right amounts. Depression isn't just "oh I'm lacking serotonin for some genetic reason outside of my control, I need more serotonin and the only way to get that is through medication". Depression is absolutely influenced by your outlook, and is usually caused by environmental circumstances, some of which you have control over.

And before you say anything, I went through it once before and I'm going through it again. I can pinpoint the reasons and circumstances. It isn't just a chemical imbalance out of nowhere.

It's not the entire picture, but it's incorrect to go as far as to say it's not relevant anymore.

There are several neurotransmitters implicated, and neurons aren't the most plastic of tissues, which explains the long delay before SSRIs even take an effect. Acknowledging that doesn't mean the environment doesn't play a role, however. The nature/nurture debate has been "settled" for some time and it's a combination of both. Most people have a very elementary understanding of genetics. They don't understand gene expression or epigenetics.

So having the "wrong" genes doesn't necessarily imply a problem will express itself, and just because the environment impacts how genes are expressed doesn't mean things like serotonin, norepinephrine, dopamine, etc aren't dysregulated as an effect of this pathology.
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Perascamin posted...

They can also ensure your brain is incapable of regulating itself ever again.

Someone with high blood pressure can't regulate that system either, and if they don't take the meds, they die. Someone with diabetes can't regulate their insulin receptor sensitivity.

Most people who take your stance have a very fundamental misunderstanding of basic physiology.
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Perascamin posted...

The reason that depression is so high among young people today (especially high-school and college age students) is because the majority of them don't have a full-time job, and they have entirely too much free time. Young people are also spending way too much time indoors when they rave about wanting to go out into the world and explore nature, but make no effort to do so.

Ughhh most youngsters are depressed because they have been brought up to be entitled just to get hit in the face with reality. It's the way they are brought up. There's a good ass video pretty much pinpointing this I can't find it rn though
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