Current Events > Should fat Acceptance be a thing ?

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I think fat acceptance is a horrible thing. Like I have spoken about before I am carrying more pounds then I want. So I am not someone on the outside looking in just pointing and joking about people.

We can be real many people who attack bigger people are not doing it because they are worried about their health. They are just doing it since they are mean. And I don't think that should be accepted either

However people being proud of their bigness in a unironic fashion just isn't good. While no one should tell a person they should be happy with their size the idea that fatness doesn't led to bad things down the line is not good. As a society we have to say. It is not healthy to be that big.

Also forgive the odd wording I am trying to say this with out sounding like an asshole. My attend really isn't to hurt anyone or call anyone out.

You even have overweight models like Tess Holliday talking about how great it is to be fat. No it is not great to be overweight. You literally die sooner in many cases and if people care about you are leaving them because you didn't work out.
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Everyone should be treated with respect, including people who are overweight.

However, I think it's important to understand the science on the issue as well. There are serious health risks to obesity, and the US has a significant problem with obesity.

But still, shaming people who are overweight doesn't help them lose weight. It just makes them feel bad.
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Personally I think if people are comfortable with themselves thats all that matters. With that said I think its bullshit to say that being overweight can be healthy.
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#healthyatanysize

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I accept fat... as being gross and unhealthy.
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username191 posted...

Everyone should be treated with respect, including people who are overweight.

However, I think it's important to understand the science on the issue as well. There are serious health risks to obesity, and the US has a significant problem with obesity.

But still, shaming people who are overweight doesn't help them lose weight. It just makes them feel bad.

Exactly. Be comfortable with your body first and foremost. If health is a concern for you, work to improve it. For some people it's not a major concern.
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No. Fat people are unhealthy and at risk of dying far younger than they should be dying. That's not something to accept.

They shouldn't be treated like shit though.
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Dr. Robotnik lookin
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trappedunderice posted...

Dr. Robotnik lookin

Salad Dodgin
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refmon posted...

trappedunderice posted...

Dr. Robotnik lookin

Salad Dodgin

Lard garglin

To a certain degree... only as far as that it doesn't help to beat people while they're down. I'll be nice to fat people but I won't lie and say that it's healthy for them to stay that way. But ultimately it's their choice to fix it or not so I'm not gonna pressure them to change if they don't want to do.
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Feline_Heart posted...

refmon posted...

trappedunderice posted...

Dr. Robotnik lookin

Salad Dodgin

Lard garglin

grease guzzling

no, we shouldn't be doing things to normalize obesity.
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bretonftw posted...

#healthyatanysize

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It's funny because scientifically speaking the fat is literally directly linked to health problems, HAES is a myth.

I treat people the same way they treat me.
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We absolutely should not be disparaging or disrespecting people because they are overweight. But at the same time we shouldn't go so far in the other direction where we depict being overweight as a healthy alternative to not being overweight because that's ignoring the very real health and economic concerns that being overweight carries with it. America has an obesity problem that does need to be addressed, but it needs to be done in a respectful and humane manner.
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The problem is the fat acceptance movement (and I hesitate to associate them with any sort of movement at all, hence the obesity) has a pervasive problem of wanting to redefine "health" and "science" to suit their narratives.

We have only been this immobile and overfed as of recently as a species in light of all the time we had to be active. So a fat body is not our "natural" body as a species. Our body is meant to move, bare weight, carry shit, squat down and stand up, run, walk distances, climb, etc, all of which we've been doing as a collective more or less since the beginning of mankind. THAT is what is natural.

A grossly overweight person saying they don't have weight-related joint pain or dysfunction is either being outright dishonest to prop their narrative or they have just been in such shitty shape so long they no longer notice. Fat acceptance also seems to only see things in a binary sense. You are either in the fluffy/fat as shit camp or you are emaciated and need a sandwich. There is no athletic build, no true curves, nothing.

The movement seems to be composed of primarily fat fucking feminists who accomplish nothing outside of the movement and immerse themselves so fully in the rhetoric that their only sense of value is derived from the movement. There is no pride in willfully ignoring the problems associated with being out of shape, overly fat or overly skinny.

And they have this ridiculous tendency to shout anyone down who dares to point out the risks or be proud of their own fit body.

The entire movement is a sham almost exclusively for a useless minority of women to feel like their lives are being well-lived and have purpose. Their entire identity is the movement.

All that said, bullying them, being cruel, etc is not acceptable. And i mean actual bullying. Not a doctor telling some pig bitch she'll die if she doesn't manage to shrink her FUPA. But at a certain point the truth has to be allowed to be the truth regardless of feelings.

That last bit goes for any identity movement by the way. Left wing, right wing, fat acceptance, whatever.

fat acceptance is the only movement that would be solved with actual movement

i will post this in any and every fat acceptance topic i ever see
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There shouldn't be either shaming or acceptance. People have created situations themselves where cigarettes, alcohol, and very unhealthy food is everywhere. Its like creating bunch of addicts and then instead of trying to solve the problem at the root we only laugh at consequence.

Now, if one has right to destroy their health with alcohol and cigarettes, people have equal right to ruin their health with crap food. If seeing bunch of fatties bother you, either shut up, or try to affect the food culture itself.

Saying that people should just have disiciple, is only partially correct. Its still, not the real cause. Real cause is that its become accepted that food manufacturers produce extremely unhealthy food, and that eating junk food has become the norm. Some people learn that kind of shitty life style since kids, junk food/sugar addiction can also be very powerful for some.
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Discipline is one. Information is the second.

It all boils down to 1 simple principal. As long as your food is single ingredient and as close to its natural state as possible, you can pretty much eat as much as you want, stay active, and be perpetually fit. That's it. No specific diet, no real need to even calorie count. No need for non GMO or only organic or any of that shit. Just eat sensibly as defined by those standards and you will be better off.

It is very simple, just not as easy as it should be for a lot of people.

As a fatty fat guy myself, FUCK. NO.

Fat acceptance isn't cool. It's encouraging and that's no good. Period.

Depends on the definition. If you are obese, absolutely not. If you are a little thick that's fine.
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_RETS_ posted...

Discipline is one. Information is the second.

It all boils down to 1 simple principal. As long as your food is single ingredient and as close to its natural state as possible, you can pretty much eat as much as you want, stay active, and be perpetually fit. That's it. No specific diet, no real need to even calorie count. No need for non GMO or only organic or any of that shit. Just eat sensibly as defined by those standards and you will be better off.

It is very simple, just not as easy as it should be for a lot of people.

RETS pls

If I ate 4000 "natural" calories I'd become obese after a few months.

username191 posted...

Everyone should be treated with respect, including people who are overweight.

However, I think it's important to understand the science on the issue as well. There are serious health risks to obesity, and the US has a significant problem with obesity.

But still, shaming people who are overweight doesn't help them lose weight. It just makes them feel bad.

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fat acceptance is ok but it shouldn't be like "being fat is amazing and beautiful and great uwu~~"
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clearaflagrantj posted...

_RETS_ posted...

Discipline is one. Information is the second.

It all boils down to 1 simple principal. As long as your food is single ingredient and as close to its natural state as possible, you can pretty much eat as much as you want, stay active, and be perpetually fit. That's it. No specific diet, no real need to even calorie count. No need for non GMO or only organic or any of that shit. Just eat sensibly as defined by those standards and you will be better off.

It is very simple, just not as easy as it should be for a lot of people.

RETS pls

If I ate 4000 "natural" calories I'd become obese after a few months.

Try to eat 4000 calories of meat, veggies, and limited starches/rice/fruit that follow the parameters I mentioned. In most ordinary, consistent circumstances You will get to "as much as you want" before you get to levels that would make you obese or even gain any significant fat.

bretonftw posted...

#healthyatanysize

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Fat acceptance in that it's not okay to treat someone like shit because they're fat? I'm okay with that.

Fat acceptance as in pretending obesity is healthy? Not so much.

Be happy with yourself but always try to work on making yourself better.
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