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Terra-enforcer
05/29/17 12:55:11 AM
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-Several new Street Fighter V Updates (with even more coming and potentially even a new story mode according to recent leaks)

-Injustice 2 (personally my favorite so far and has lasted me for weeks and I feel like I'm just getting started. Plus all the new DLC Comes out soon, and they constantly update it with free costumes and gear)

-Ultra Street Fighter 2 (hella overpriced, but looks like it'll be a great update once it gets a price drop)

-Tekken 7 (Out next week)

-Marvel vs Capcom Infinite

-Guilty Gear Xrd Rev 2

-ARMS (technically counts)


People say this is a huge year for other genre, but this is the year of RPG and Fighting games, which is awesome because those happen to be my two favorite genre.
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Zack_Attackv1
05/29/17 12:56:35 AM
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ManSpread
05/29/17 1:01:54 AM
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SFV is trash and will continue to be (fun fact, several prominent Japanese tournaments have been dropping it)
MvCI I have little hope for (see above)
USF2 will be irrelevant in the grand scheme cause its on the Switch and the people who buy the Switch cant do 1f links (see: popularity of Smash), not to mention the Switch is stupidly hard to obtain compared to literally any other FG platform available
REV 2 IS FUCKING HYPE
Never played Tekken, so no comment on it, however the game is exploding in interest with the Western release imminent
Injustice 2 will go the same route of every other NRS game most likely (dead within a year because NRS is somehow worse than Capcom at balancing a game, shitty PC support and the game already being dead on arrival when it finally comes out a year later on PC)

all in all, its not a great year for FGs with only 2 titles having any hype
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Milkman5
05/29/17 1:02:25 AM
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Those are all bad except ARMS
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thompsontalker7
05/29/17 1:10:13 AM
#5:


Oh BlazBlue Central Fiction

You could've been part of this but you had to fuck it up
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ManSpread
05/29/17 1:11:35 AM
#6:


thompsontalker7 posted...
Oh BlazBlue Central Fiction

You could've been part of this but you had to fuck it up

still salty its getting a sunday slot over GG

like

fucking nobody plays BB in the west compared to GG

i dont understand mr mcrib at all, GG has always pulled in bigger numbers over BB
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thompsontalker7
05/29/17 1:13:03 AM
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ManSpread posted...
thompsontalker7 posted...
Oh BlazBlue Central Fiction

You could've been part of this but you had to fuck it up

still salty its getting a sunday slot over GG

like

fucking nobody plays BB in the west compared to GG

i dont understand mr mcrib at all, GG has always pulled in bigger numbers over BB


What's even more terrible is how there has been ZERO BALANCE UPDATES despite the game being in desperate need for them

So basically all you'll be seeing is Carl/Susanno/Izanami players in every round

tbh I think they don't want to alienate the few people that will be at EVO for this by rebalancing it beforehand

such a shit show

and the localization is probably the worst in the series so far
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Terra-enforcer
05/29/17 1:16:56 AM
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ManSpread posted...
SFV is trash and will continue to be (fun fact, several prominent Japanese tournaments have been dropping it)

It's the Japanese and there's no arcade version. Not sure how that's supposed to mean much. Still growing in the west. And have you played it? It's not trash at all. Far from being close to the best in the series, but it's definitely not a bad game and has plenty of content now.

ManSpread posted...
Injustice 2 will go the same route of every other NRS game most likely (dead within a year because NRS is somehow worse than Capcom at balancing a game, shitty PC support and the game already being dead on arrival when it finally comes out a year later on PC)

Eh, that doesn't make it not good. That just means it has a heavy casual following as opposed to a standard hardcore fanbase.

ManSpread posted...
all in all, its not a great year for FGs with only 2 titles having any hype

Opinions exist so I'm not going to argue that part with you. But seems like you aren't all that in to fighting games to begin with. As an avid fan this year has been great so far and looks like it'll only get better. MvC Infinite has already proven itself to me imo, especially with a story mode now, and especially if some of the hot leaks are true.
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ManSpread
05/29/17 1:16:56 AM
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thompsontalker7 posted...
ManSpread posted...
thompsontalker7 posted...
Oh BlazBlue Central Fiction

You could've been part of this but you had to fuck it up

still salty its getting a sunday slot over GG

like

fucking nobody plays BB in the west compared to GG

i dont understand mr mcrib at all, GG has always pulled in bigger numbers over BB


What's even more terrible is how there has been ZERO BALANCE UPDATES despite the game being in desperate need for them

So basically all you'll be seeing is Carl/Susanno/Izanami players in every round

tbh I think they don't want to alienate the few people that will be at EVO for this by rebalancing it beforehand

such a shit show

and the localization is probably the worst in the series so far

at least nine is a top tier waifu i guess

never was a fan of BB in all honesty
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Albel-Nox
05/29/17 1:19:26 AM
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Sorry Capcom. I wanted X in MvsC3, it's too late now.

Where's Under Night?
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Terra-enforcer
05/29/17 1:21:43 AM
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Terra-enforcer posted...
ManSpread posted...
SFV is trash and will continue to be (fun fact, several prominent Japanese tournaments have been dropping it)

It's the Japanese and there's no arcade version. Not sure how that's supposed to mean much. Still growing in the west. And have you played it? It's not trash at all. Far from being close to the best in the series, but it's definitely not a bad game and has plenty of content now.

ManSpread posted...
Injustice 2 will go the same route of every other NRS game most likely (dead within a year because NRS is somehow worse than Capcom at balancing a game, shitty PC support and the game already being dead on arrival when it finally comes out a year later on PC)

Eh, that doesn't make it not good. That just means it has a heavy casual following as opposed to a standard hardcore fanbase.

ManSpread posted...
all in all, its not a great year for FGs with only 2 titles having any hype

Opinions exist so I'm not going to argue that part with you. But seems like you aren't all that in to fighting games to begin with. As an avid fan this year has been great so far and looks like it'll only get better. MvC Infinite has already proven itself to me imo, especially with a story mode now, and especially if some of the hot leaks are true.

To add to this, You should probably say not a good year for YOU, because in general a LOT is being offered for those of us with a large interest in most games in the genre. I haven't seen any MvC fan NOT hyped as hell for Infinite, so you'd definitely be wrong to undermine the hype there. And those who still play SFV are still really into it, especially with the recent updates and speculation on new characters. It's also really silly to discount Tekken just because YOU don't like it. That doesn't make it have any less hype.
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ManSpread
05/29/17 1:21:54 AM
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Terra-enforcer posted...
ManSpread posted...
SFV is trash and will continue to be (fun fact, several prominent Japanese tournaments have been dropping it)

It's the Japanese and there's no arcade version. Not sure how that's supposed to mean much. Still growing in the west. And have you played it? It's not trash at all. Far from being close to the best in the series, but it's definitely not a bad game and has plenty of content now.

ManSpread posted...
Injustice 2 will go the same route of every other NRS game most likely (dead within a year because NRS is somehow worse than Capcom at balancing a game, shitty PC support and the game already being dead on arrival when it finally comes out a year later on PC)

Eh, that doesn't make it not good. That just means it has a heavy casual following as opposed to a standard hardcore fanbase.

ManSpread posted...
all in all, its not a great year for FGs with only 2 titles having any hype

Opinions exist so I'm not going to argue that part with you. But seems like you aren't all that in to fighting games to begin with. As an avid fan this year has been great so far and looks like it'll only get better. MvC Infinite has already proven itself to me imo, especially with a story mode now, and especially if some of the hot leaks are true.

no, im pretty big into FGs, i just dont like shit games like SFV

the balance sucks and none of capcoms decisions make any sense, like getting rid of invincible DPs on wakeup, nerfing fang in s2, everyone's meaty option is cr.mp, v trigger is basically x factor minus the health regen (or for certain characters hardly a relevant mechanic at all)

like, so many of the pros at this game have shown so much disdain for the game on a competitive level, even bonchan said you literally just press random shit and win

SFV is not growing in the west, many people have been jumping ship to injustice 2, t7, and rev 2

combo breaker had a whopping five more entrants for SFV than last year while REV 2 doubled its entrants

also where do you get that i discounted tekken? i even praised it as being one of the games people are hype for

as for infinite, i grew up in the arcades when mvc2 and third strike was the shit to be playing

i am not hyped for mvci at all after playing sfv and the fact it looks like a mobile game
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thompsontalker7
05/29/17 1:22:44 AM
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ManSpread posted...
thompsontalker7 posted...
ManSpread posted...
thompsontalker7 posted...
Oh BlazBlue Central Fiction

You could've been part of this but you had to fuck it up

still salty its getting a sunday slot over GG

like

fucking nobody plays BB in the west compared to GG

i dont understand mr mcrib at all, GG has always pulled in bigger numbers over BB


What's even more terrible is how there has been ZERO BALANCE UPDATES despite the game being in desperate need for them

So basically all you'll be seeing is Carl/Susanno/Izanami players in every round

tbh I think they don't want to alienate the few people that will be at EVO for this by rebalancing it beforehand

such a shit show

and the localization is probably the worst in the series so far

at least nine is a top tier waifu i guess

never was a fan of BB in all honesty


I'm even saltier than you can possibly imagine since my bae Izanami ended up being playable in the version where everyone stopped caring

I really hope they can bring it back around with a proper fucking dub since pretty much only the fans of the lore are gonna keep this series alive
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Terra-enforcer
05/29/17 1:23:08 AM
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Albel-Nox posted...
Sorry Capcom. I wanted X in MvsC3, it's too late now.

Where's Under Night?

It was such a missed opportunity in MvC3, but I don't see why it would be too late. Hell, if anything the fact that he;s at center stage and even one of his main antagonists is the main villain of the game more than makes up for all the MegaMan trolling and then some.
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Terra-enforcer
05/29/17 1:29:49 AM
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ManSpread posted...
SFV is not growing in the west, many people have been jumping ship to injustice 2, t7, and rev 2

Based on sheer numbers SFV is growing still apparently. And even if it weren't, that does nothing to discount the fact that Capcom is gracious in their support for the game. Still has its issues, but they've been pushing it pretty hard. The TBS ELeague was pretty hype. It's far from a "Trash" game. The characters feel fun to play as and it's a good point of entry for newcomers as well as catering to competitive players. Say what you want, but that doesn't take away from the fact that it is yet another fighting game that is receiving a lot of support and is loved by those who still stick with it.

ManSpread posted...
also where do you get that i discounted tekken? i even praised it as being one of the games people are hype for

It was hard to tell which games you were referring to as "hype." You used your opinion and random excuses to seemingly negate a majority of the list (and you ignored ARMS all together). I couldn't tell. You just sound really pessimistic and quick to outright dismiss things you don't agree with, which is pretty silly. Like seriously saying MvC doesn't have any hype. I don't even...


And can you think of a better year for fighting game releases?
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thompsontalker7
05/29/17 1:33:52 AM
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Tekken 7 is gonna be the first major fighting game that will get nearly everything right the first time around and that's what gives me more confidence than the other fighters, especially since I played it back in 2015 when it was in the US as an arcade cabinet.
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Albel-Nox
05/29/17 1:34:18 AM
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Terra-enforcer posted...
Albel-Nox posted...
Sorry Capcom. I wanted X in MvsC3, it's too late now.

Where's Under Night?

It was such a missed opportunity in MvC3, but I don't see why it would be too late. Hell, if anything the fact that he;s at center stage and even one of his main antagonists is the main villain of the game more than makes up for all the MegaMan trolling and then some.

Well if I ever do cave in it'll be solely for X. What they're doing with him sounds interesting.
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Darmik
05/29/17 1:34:31 AM
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Terra-enforcer posted...
Based on sheer numbers SFV is growing still apparently.


Didn't they only sell something like 100k copies for an entire year? lol
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ManSpread
05/29/17 1:36:38 AM
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Terra-enforcer posted...
ManSpread posted...
SFV is not growing in the west, many people have been jumping ship to injustice 2, t7, and rev 2

Based on sheer numbers SFV is growing still apparently. And even if it weren't, that does nothing to discount the fact that Capcom is gracious in their support for the game. Still has its issues, but they've been pushing it pretty hard. The TBS ELeague was pretty hype. It's far from a "Trash" game. The characters feel fun to play as and it's a good point of entry for newcomers as well as catering to competitive players. Say what you want, but that doesn't take away from the fact that it is yet another fighting game that is receiving a lot of support and is loved by those who still stick with it.

ManSpread posted...
also where do you get that i discounted tekken? i even praised it as being one of the games people are hype for

It was hard to tell which games you were referring to as "hype." You used your opinion and random excuses to seemingly negate a majority of the list (and you ignored ARMS all together). I couldn't tell. You just sound really pessimistic and quick to outright dismiss things you don't agree with, which is pretty silly. Like seriously saying MvC doesn't have any hype. I don't even...


And can you think of a better year for fighting game releases?

SFV does not cater to pros

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iSgA_nK_w3A

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CWJmnaHfvaI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DIqxJAyXPqA


I could dig up more and more examples of pro players disliking the game
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meestermj
05/29/17 1:37:19 AM
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Literally defending SFV.
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ManSpread
05/29/17 1:37:46 AM
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Darmik posted...
Terra-enforcer posted...
Based on sheer numbers SFV is growing still apparently.


Didn't they only sell something like 100k copies for an entire year? lol

https://www.eventhubs.com/news/2016/oct/27/street-fighter-5-ships-less-100k-units-between-months-april-and-september-street-fighter-5-currently-capcoms-46th-highest-selling-game/

the game STILL doesnt have an arcade mode

its barebones over a year after release
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Terra-enforcer
05/29/17 1:38:38 AM
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Albel-Nox posted...
Terra-enforcer posted...
Albel-Nox posted...
Sorry Capcom. I wanted X in MvsC3, it's too late now.

Where's Under Night?

It was such a missed opportunity in MvC3, but I don't see why it would be too late. Hell, if anything the fact that he;s at center stage and even one of his main antagonists is the main villain of the game more than makes up for all the MegaMan trolling and then some.

Well if I ever do cave in it'll be solely for X. What they're doing with him sounds interesting.

Wow really? lol

I like Marvel, and Capcom is (or used to be idk) one of my top three video game developers so those games always had a ton for me to love. I just hope they have more MM characters other than Sigma and X. Would it kill them to add Bass.EXE or Mega Man Zero? Like seriously come on Capcom!
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Albel-Nox
05/29/17 1:40:30 AM
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I would rather have EXE over X tbh.
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Veggeta X
05/29/17 1:40:31 AM
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Most people on CE will disagree because most people on CE don't know how to play fighting games.
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Terra-enforcer
05/29/17 1:40:40 AM
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ManSpread posted...
Darmik posted...
Terra-enforcer posted...
Based on sheer numbers SFV is growing still apparently.


Didn't they only sell something like 100k copies for an entire year? lol

https://www.eventhubs.com/news/2016/oct/27/street-fighter-5-ships-less-100k-units-between-months-april-and-september-street-fighter-5-currently-capcoms-46th-highest-selling-game/

the game STILL doesnt have an arcade mode

its barebones over a year after release

Lacking an arcade mode =/= barebones.

It's pretty dumb to call it barebones now. You were right about certain balancing issues, plus online still isn't fixed, but come on now. If you have the game you know it's more than complete now. I'd say it was complete by the second month or two. It's a fighting game, so I'm not really sure what all you expected mode wise. One or two modes outside of normal versus is standard fair for fighting games, and it had that much at launch.

But I digress. That doesn't even have much to do with how it is now in 2017 which this topic is about. More than complete even if it has its issues.
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thompsontalker7
05/29/17 1:41:10 AM
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Veggeta X posted...
Most people on CE will disagree because most people on CE don't know how to play fighting games.


Or even worse, bring up ARMS as one of the better fighters because of reasons that have nothing to do with it as a fighter.
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Darmik
05/29/17 1:41:42 AM
#27:


ManSpread posted...
Darmik posted...
Terra-enforcer posted...
Based on sheer numbers SFV is growing still apparently.


Didn't they only sell something like 100k copies for an entire year? lol

https://www.eventhubs.com/news/2016/oct/27/street-fighter-5-ships-less-100k-units-between-months-april-and-september-street-fighter-5-currently-capcoms-46th-highest-selling-game/

the game STILL doesnt have an arcade mode

its barebones over a year after release


Looking at the current figure it's now up to 1.6 million as of March 31 2017.

Remember that Capcom wanted it to sell 2 million at launch...
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Terra-enforcer
05/29/17 1:44:41 AM
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Albel-Nox posted...
I would rather have EXE over X tbh.

Same.

@thompsontalker7 posted...
Veggeta X posted...
Most people on CE will disagree because most people on CE don't know how to play fighting games.


Or even worse, bring up ARMS as one of the better fighters because of reasons that have nothing to do with it as a fighter.

Who said one of the "better fighters"? I never said nor insinuated it's "OMG BEST FIGHTER 2017" I just listed every fighting game I knew of coming out this year and it's definitely among them. It almost went to E3 as that ninth mystery pick people voted on. No it'll never be anywhere close to big in the FGC, hell, I don't think it will take off much at all, but it's still a fighter whether you like it or not.
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Holy_Cloud105
05/29/17 1:48:40 AM
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ManSpread posted...
thompsontalker7 posted...
Oh BlazBlue Central Fiction

You could've been part of this but you had to fuck it up

still salty its getting a sunday slot over GG

like

fucking nobody plays BB in the west compared to GG

i dont understand mr mcrib at all, GG has always pulled in bigger numbers over BB

They put BB over GG on Sunday because BB always has a hype top 8. And fucking Fenrich da gawd is coming for Evo. Jin it to win it. Also, BB is bigger in Japan than GG is now, or maybe was so maybe Wizard was trying to draw more internationals. BB managed to dethrone SF4 and Gundam VS as the most played fighting game in arcades for years after all. Either way, numbers for Evo all around are down. SFV really did a lot of damage.
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Darmik
05/29/17 1:49:32 AM
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Terra-enforcer posted...
It's pretty dumb to call it barebones now. You were right about certain balancing issues, plus online still isn't fixed, but come on now. If you have the game you know it's more than complete now. I'd say it was complete by the second month or two. It's a fighting game, so I'm not really sure what all you expected mode wise.


Arcade mode for one. That's like an absolutely basic and barebones mode and they still don't have that? Why? It helps these games sell when they at least try to have some sort of offline content for players to have fun with (not that it would even be considered offline content at this point considering you need to be online to download it). Hell that's why the Netherrealm games absolutely dominate sales wise and don't even need to worry about the competitive community.

I thought that was meant to come within like 6 months of release anyway? Wtf happened. This game is close to being a year and a half old now.
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thompsontalker7
05/29/17 1:51:35 AM
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Maybe that was true in the past, but current BB is a shit show and won't make it to another EVO at this rate. The devs just absolutely do not care about showing support after its initial release, and they fucking hate the western audience by not giving it the consistently good localization it normally got.
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Holy_Cloud105
05/29/17 1:53:49 AM
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thompsontalker7 posted...
Maybe that was true in the past, but current BB is a shit show and won't make it to another EVO at this rate. The devs just absolutely do not care about showing support after it's initial release, and they fucking hate the western audience by not giving it the consistently good localization it normally got.

I mean, despite what you think, BB is still going strong in Japan. Granted that doesn't mean much for the west so yeah. Mori said years ago they were done after CF came out too so it's not like "They don't care" or anything. Whenever they decide to pick up the series again we'll see.
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ManSpread
05/29/17 1:53:51 AM
#33:


Holy_Cloud105 posted...
ManSpread posted...
thompsontalker7 posted...
Oh BlazBlue Central Fiction

You could've been part of this but you had to fuck it up

still salty its getting a sunday slot over GG

like

fucking nobody plays BB in the west compared to GG

i dont understand mr mcrib at all, GG has always pulled in bigger numbers over BB

They put BB over GG on Sunday because BB always has a hype top 8. And fucking Fenrich da gawd is coming for Evo. Jin it to win it. Also, BB is bigger in Japan than GG is now, or maybe was so maybe Wizard was trying to draw more internationals. BB managed to dethrone SF4 and Gundam VS as the most played fighting game in arcades for years after all. Either way, numbers for Evo all around are down. SFV really did a lot of damage.

Yeah, BB memes all over everything in Japan, its insane how big it is over there
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Dragonblade01
05/29/17 1:55:16 AM
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UNIB is so underrated.
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thompsontalker7
05/29/17 1:56:36 AM
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Terra-enforcer posted...

Who said one of the "better fighters"? I never said nor insinuated it's "OMG BEST FIGHTER 2017" I just listed every fighting game I knew of coming out this year and it's definitely among them. It almost went to E3 as that ninth mystery pick people voted on. No it'll never be anywhere close to big in the FGC, hell, I don't think it will take off much at all, but it's still a fighter whether you like it or not.


You're waaaayyyyy in defensive mode ITT for no reason lol

Ask anyone on the Switch boards why ARMS is any good and they'll say the usual. It's a first party title. It's a Switch exclusive. It's a potential system seller. It's alleviating what is perceived as a drought in games. None of which has anything to do with the game itself.
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thompsontalker7
05/29/17 1:56:58 AM
#36:


Dragonblade01 posted...
UNIB is so underrated.


Can someone please explain wtf is this

Google doesn't help with this particular acronym
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Holy_Cloud105
05/29/17 2:01:38 AM
#37:


thompsontalker7 posted...
Dragonblade01 posted...
UNIB is so underrated.


Can someone please explain wtf is this

Google doesn't help with this particular acronym

Under Night in Birth. Made by the creators of Melty Blood.
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Terra-enforcer
05/29/17 2:01:50 AM
#38:


Darmik posted...
Terra-enforcer posted...
It's pretty dumb to call it barebones now. You were right about certain balancing issues, plus online still isn't fixed, but come on now. If you have the game you know it's more than complete now. I'd say it was complete by the second month or two. It's a fighting game, so I'm not really sure what all you expected mode wise.


Arcade mode for one. That's like an absolutely basic and barebones mode and they still don't have that? Why? It helps these games sell when they at least try to have some sort of offline content for players to have fun with (not that it would even be considered offline content at this point considering you need to be online to download it). Hell that's why the Netherrealm games absolutely dominate sales wise and don't even need to worry about the competitive community.

I thought that was meant to come within like 6 months of release anyway? Wtf happened. This game is close to being a year and a half old now.

You don't seem to know what barebones means. A game lacking one mode while replacing it with several others does not make it "barebones" or "incomplete." That logic makes absolutely no sense. It's like saying a full time student isn't a full time student anymore because he's taking different classes. Uh, no, the number of course dictates the status, not the specific courses being taken. SFV is most definitely a complete game by now no questions asked.

As for the community aspect, different strokes different folks. I definitely think IJ2 is much better game, but I'd rather have a game with a constant stream of updates and a consistent competitive community than be like MKX where the online dies down a lot just a few months after release and the competitive community is nigh nonexistent.

The main barrier now with SFV and casuals is the stigma of the initial release which most casuals don't even know enough about to get over.
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Darmik
05/29/17 2:03:33 AM
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Terra-enforcer posted...
You don't seem to know what barebones means. A game lacking one mode while replacing it with several others does not make it "barebones" or "incomplete." That logic makes absolutely no sense. It's like saying a full time student isn't a full time student anymore because he's taking different classes. Uh, no, the number of course dictates the status, not the specific courses being taken. SFV is most definitely a complete game by now no questions asked.


What was it replaced with?

Terra-enforcer posted...
The main barrier now with SFV and casuals is the stigma of the initial release which most casuals don't even know enough about to get over.


If they're not over that barrier by now it's not gonna happen. Capcom will be lucky if they ever crack that 2 million sold barrier.
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Terra-enforcer
05/29/17 2:05:07 AM
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@thompsontalker7 posted...
Terra-enforcer posted...

Who said one of the "better fighters"? I never said nor insinuated it's "OMG BEST FIGHTER 2017" I just listed every fighting game I knew of coming out this year and it's definitely among them. It almost went to E3 as that ninth mystery pick people voted on. No it'll never be anywhere close to big in the FGC, hell, I don't think it will take off much at all, but it's still a fighter whether you like it or not.


You're waaaayyyyy in defensive mode ITT for no reason lol

Ask anyone on the Switch boards why ARMS is any good and they'll say the usual. It's a first party title. It's a Switch exclusive. It's a potential system seller. It's alleviating what is perceived as a drought in games. None of which has anything to do with the game itself.

Call it defensive or whatever the hell you want, I couldn't care less. That does nothing to take away from the point I'm making in any way whatsoever.

First off, you're dead wrong on what you said there. Plenty of people on the Switch board hype up the competitive aspect. Not sure how you don't know that unless you really haven't been there much.

Second, that still does nothing to deter from the fact that it's still a fighting game, and one that plays really well and is supposed to be pushed by Nintendo as a competitive fighting game. Like I said before, I think it has no chance of taking off, but that doesn't make it not a fighting game for some reason.
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Calwings
05/29/17 2:07:38 AM
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*sits at the foot of Soul Calibur's deathbed and cries*
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Darmik
05/29/17 2:09:17 AM
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Arms probably won't be some competitive darling in the fighting game scene (it'll be its own thing just like Splatoon) but it'll succeed. Testpunch seems to have a good reception overall and the gameplay is casual enough to be appealing for a broad audience (motion controls help here too) while also having enough depth for people to get into the ranked mode and take it seriously.

Probably gonna sell a chunk more than Street Fighter V but that doesn't mean much lol.
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Mako_Sharknado
05/29/17 2:11:21 AM
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Ah hell yeah dawg. SFV's super fun'n even tho I ain't as big on anime fighters GG's p cool too. Injustice ain't bad either

Tekken'll be good'n Mahvel baybee's the hypest shit

Not gettin' a Switch but ARMS looks neat
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ManSpread
05/29/17 2:12:00 AM
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Terra-enforcer posted...
Darmik posted...
Terra-enforcer posted...
It's pretty dumb to call it barebones now. You were right about certain balancing issues, plus online still isn't fixed, but come on now. If you have the game you know it's more than complete now. I'd say it was complete by the second month or two. It's a fighting game, so I'm not really sure what all you expected mode wise.


Arcade mode for one. That's like an absolutely basic and barebones mode and they still don't have that? Why? It helps these games sell when they at least try to have some sort of offline content for players to have fun with (not that it would even be considered offline content at this point considering you need to be online to download it). Hell that's why the Netherrealm games absolutely dominate sales wise and don't even need to worry about the competitive community.

I thought that was meant to come within like 6 months of release anyway? Wtf happened. This game is close to being a year and a half old now.

You don't seem to know what barebones means. A game lacking one mode while replacing it with several others does not make it "barebones" or "incomplete." That logic makes absolutely no sense. It's like saying a full time student isn't a full time student anymore because he's taking different classes. Uh, no, the number of course dictates the status, not the specific courses being taken. SFV is most definitely a complete game by now no questions asked.

As for the community aspect, different strokes different folks. I definitely think IJ2 is much better game, but I'd rather have a game with a constant stream of updates and a consistent competitive community than be like MKX where the online dies down a lot just a few months after release and the competitive community is nigh nonexistent.

The main barrier now with SFV and casuals is the stigma of the initial release which most casuals don't even know enough about to get over.

casuals dont play SFV for the reasons they do play injustice

tons of single player+unlockable content

guess what sfv has practically 0 of?

no arcade mode and no singleplayer content other than a memeworthy story mode

unlike SF4, the only thing keeping SFV afloat is CPT money
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Dragonblade01
05/29/17 2:13:39 AM
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Holy_Cloud105 posted...
thompsontalker7 posted...
Dragonblade01 posted...
UNIB is so underrated.


Can someone please explain wtf is this

Google doesn't help with this particular acronym

Under Night in Birth. Made by the creators of Melty Blood.

Yeah, a new update of the game is finally coming to PS4 in Japan this July.
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Terra-enforcer
05/29/17 2:15:34 AM
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Darmik posted...
What was it replaced with?

Survival mode was its replacement at launch. Last time I played it they implemented the "Cinematic" Story Mode, Challenge mode, and Missions. No clue if there's been anything since then.
And like I said before, most people consider fighting games "complete" with just one or two standard modes outside of online and versus. SFV launched with two, and has more now.

Darmik posted...
If they're not over that barrier by now it's not gonna happen. Capcom will be lucky if they ever crack that 2 million sold barrier.

...okay? Not sure what you're on about man. You can only say it sold poorly so many times before you're beating the shattered remains of what was formerly a dead horse lol. People have been saying the sales figures have been disappointing for months, and you've said as much multiple times itt. Not sure what you're trying to accomplish anymore by continuing to repeat it.

And they're not over the barrier because of the reason I said. They could add 10 more modes, but they need an actual soft-relaunching of the game to get any momentum. Or just going Free to play.
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thompsontalker7
05/29/17 2:16:30 AM
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Terra-enforcer posted...

Call it defensive or whatever the hell you want, I couldn't care less. That does nothing to take away from the point I'm making in any way whatsoever.


You got all pissy because you thought my comment was directed towards you, when it was a general observation.

Terra-enforcer posted...

First off, you're dead wrong on what you said there. Plenty of people on the Switch board hype up the competitive aspect. Not sure how you don't know that unless you really haven't been there much.


Of course they would. Do I expect to see ARMS at EVO anytime soon because of the competitive aspect? Probably not. There's no one best way to play it and that's gonna hurt.

Terra-enforcer posted...

Second, that still does nothing to deter from the fact that it's still a fighting game, and one that plays really well and is supposed to be pushed by Nintendo as a competitive fighting game. Like I said before, I think it has no chance of taking off, but that doesn't make it not a fighting game for some reason.


Okay, okay, I don't know where you got the idea that I'm on some crusade to discredit ARMS. It's just the least interesting fighting game to me right now, even with the Testpunch.
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Terra-enforcer
05/29/17 2:20:40 AM
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ManSpread posted...
casuals dont play SFV for the reasons they do play injustice

tons of single player+unlockable content

guess what sfv has practically 0 of?

no arcade mode and no singleplayer content other than a memeworthy story mode

unlike SF4, the only thing keeping SFV afloat is CPT money

There's still plenty of single player content. Again, I'm not sure if you're just trolling, but if you're a fighting game fan I don't know how you ever thought a game has to have arcade mode or it's "incomplete." The individual stories plus the updated story mode plus Survival is plenty of single player content. To call it barebones at this point is straight up lying.

Is it even close to the SP content of NRS games? Hell no, but I already explained that above. There's a reason why MKX's online has dropped like crazy and the competitive scene has been dead for years. Different strokes, different folks. No need to bash one side or the other. This isn't middle school. If SFV isn't for you, say it and move on. No need to dwell on how much you dislike it. Nothing you say isn't going to change how the game actually plays, nor will it change anyone's mind about it.
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ManSpread
05/29/17 2:22:22 AM
#49:


Terra-enforcer posted...
ManSpread posted...
casuals dont play SFV for the reasons they do play injustice

tons of single player+unlockable content

guess what sfv has practically 0 of?

no arcade mode and no singleplayer content other than a memeworthy story mode

unlike SF4, the only thing keeping SFV afloat is CPT money

There's still plenty of single player content. Again, I'm not sure if you're just trolling, but if you're a fighting game fan I don't know how you ever thought a game has to have arcade mode or it's "incomplete." The individual stories plus the updated story mode plus Survival is plenty of single player content. To call it barebones at this point is straight up lying.

Is it even close to the SP content of NRS games? Hell no, but I already explained that above. There's a reason why MKX's online has dropped like crazy and the competitive scene has been dead for years. Different strokes, different folks. No need to bash one side or the other. This isn't middle school. If SFV isn't for you, say it and move on. No need to dwell on how much you dislike it. Nothing you say isn't going to change how the game actually plays, nor will it change anyone's mind about it.

you do realize the biggest complaint for SFV (from the casual playerbase) was no arcade mode, right?
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thompsontalker7
05/29/17 2:23:07 AM
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Terra-enforcer posted...

There's still plenty of single player content. Again, I'm not sure if you're just trolling, but if you're a fighting game fan I don't know how you ever thought a game has to have arcade mode or it's "incomplete." The individual stories plus the updated story mode plus Survival is plenty of single player content. To call it barebones at this point is straight up lying.


Saying survival counts is like saying the firing range in Call of Duty counts. The only reason it exists is to provide a medium to grind for in-game money without getting rekt online, really.

Those character stories are both brief and aimless, and can be done in minutes. They don't really do anything justice for the characters, besides a general overview of what they're like. I'm worried Tekken 7 is taking this approach for its less important characters, too.
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