Current Events > Why was Bioshock Infinite SO bad

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It was a corridor with small pockets of non-descript enemies. Shit sucked.
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Weird, because it received good reviews, critical praise, and sold fairly well. One of my favorite video game environments and stories ever. But hey, this is CE, and people seem to have trouble understanding how opinions work around here. (Maybe more social experience would help them?)
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I liked it more than the first game tbqh
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It wasn't.
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The world and environmental design is easily the best and frankly only good part of that game. I'm a mechanics focused gamer and I thought the dumbed down gunplay was fucking atrocious.
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I liked it
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It wasn't/
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It was a great game, just different. Just because it wasn't set in Rapture doesn't make it bad.
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Twinmold posted...

Weird, because it received good reviews, critical praise, and sold fairly well. One of my favorite video game environments and stories ever. But hey, this is CE, and people seem to have trouble understanding how opinions work around here. ()

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It wasn't
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The main game was so good, if a little easy.

But fuck Burial At Sea so hard. Even with playable Elizabeth it managed to completely ruin the game's lore so quickly.
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Game's real good.

Cool to hate it.

There are some flaws, but it's fun, good story, good characters, pretty tight gameplay, great setting.
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TropicMoon10 posted...

The world and environmental design is easily the best and frankly only good part of that game. I'm a mechanics focused gamer and I thought the dumbed down gunplay was fucking atrocious.

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I hated it

Tried to play it three times got bored 30 mins into it each time
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rip dasuber
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TropicMoon10 posted...

The world and environmental design is easily the best and frankly only good part of that game. I'm a mechanics focused gamer and I thought the dumbed down gunplay was fucking atrocious.

Bingo.

The gameplay was some toddler shit.
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I played it for the first time on hard mode.

It's fun so far. I am a bit disappointed in how some weapons are inherently better than others. Shields also make the game very simplistic, especially when you get the upgrade that gives you invulnerability for jumping off a hook.
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game turned into convoluted time travel garbage
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thompsontalker7 posted...

The main game was so good, if a little easy.

But fuck Burial At Sea so hard. Even with playable Elizabeth it managed to completely ruin the game's lore so quickly.

i liked all, though the game got really challenging on the last mode with the damn boss towards the end the ghost woman nearly ****ed me over. all i could do was wait for ammo and then attack.
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To me:

Bioshock = Evil Dead
Bioshock Infinite = Evil Dead II

Kind of felt like an awesome parody where everything was opposite of the first.

Bioshock -- Infinite
Undersea -- Sky
Angry Enemies -- Happy Enemies
Plasmids -- Tonics
Centralized Story -- Huge Story
Quiet Main -- Talkative Main
By Yourself -- AI counterpart
Claustrophobic -- Wide Open
Openish Exploration -- Closed Exploration
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It's just like the epitome of AAA garbage for me. All style, no substance, big "WHOOAAAAA MAN THAT'S LIKE SO TOTALLY CRAZY DUDE" plot twist. Flashy visuals with half-baked, dirt-eating dumb gameplay, full of gimmick horseshit mechanics they didn't bother to flesh out beyond their handful of "HEY REMEMBER YOU CAN DO THIS" appearances.

It ain't good.
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I'm sure Kevin Levine is crying about your criticism from under his accolades and money.
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It wasn't bad at all. It was actually fantastic.

I liked it. The gunplay was... pretty generic, to be honest, but the environments looked great and there was some interesting lore behind it. Burial At Sea was awful, though.
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SSJGrimReaper posted...

game turned into convoluted time travel garbage

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I dug this game despite the simple shooter mechanics, was a lot of fun to look around in
don't care to play the other games though
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Twinmold posted...

Weird, because it received good reviews, critical praise, and sold fairly well. One of my favorite video game environments and stories ever. But hey, this is CE, and people seem to have trouble understanding how opinions work around here. (Maybe more social experience would help them?)

Undertale also had all of that yet you babies can not stop crying over it. And unlike Infinite its critical praise and legacy continued months after release.
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Maeiv posted...

SSJGrimReaper posted...

game turned into convoluted time travel garbage

There was nothing convoluted about it.

It was still better then BioShock 2.
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Undertale also had all of that yet you babies can not stop crying over it.

Who are you talking to? I liked Undertale.

And unlike Infinite its critical praise and legacy continued months after release.

Unsubstantiable.
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great game for a single playthrough.
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bioshock infinite was a steaming pile of garbage

it took all the atmosphere, nuance, and concepts of the first bioshock and dumped them all directly into the trash. end result is a boring, bland bro shooter with a nonsensical plot, lame set pieces, etc. just a crappy CoD clone sequel to one of my favorite games
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creativerealms posted...

It was still better then BioShock 2.

*nibbles*
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Twinmold posted...

Weird, because it received good reviews, critical praise, and sold fairly well. One of my favorite video game environments and stories ever. But hey, this is CE, and people seem to have trouble understanding how opinions work around here. (Maybe more social experience would help them?)

reviews are subjective

sales reflect popularity, not quality

"critical praise"; what does that even mean for a video game? is it not just a glorified review?
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UnholyMudcrab posted...

It wasn't.

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Twinmold posted...

Undertale also had all of that yet you babies can not stop crying over it.

Who are you talking to? I liked Undertale.

And unlike Infinite its critical praise and legacy continued months after release.

Unsubstantiable.

Wrong poster, though I'm sure there are plenty of high selling games with critical praise you dislike.
And Undertale is still getting remixes of its music and player mods to this day while everyone's already forgotten about BI by the next year other than reminiscing (usually negatively) about it once in a blue moon like with many other forgettable AAA games that come and go. When people still bring up BI, it's to talk about the disappointing regression it made from the previous games and the fanfiction tier plot.
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It was a good game.
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Ulyanyx posted...

Twinmold posted...

Weird, because it received good reviews, critical praise, and sold fairly well. One of my favorite video game environments and stories ever. But hey, this is CE, and people seem to have trouble understanding how opinions work around here. (Maybe more social experience would help them?)

reviews are subjective

sales reflect popularity, not quality

"critical praise"; what does that even mean for a video game? is it not just a glorified review?

game journalism & reviews are some of the lowest forms of journalism out there. it is barely a step above those guys that review fast food items they eat in their car.

we know that a game review score means absolutely nothing because:

1. it is a proven fact that review scores are influenced by $$$ (i.e. that guy from Gamespot getting fired for giving Kane and Lynch a low score)

2. We know a lot of reviewers are unqualified to review games or provide any significant critical insight (i.e. that Polygon video of the person playing DOOM 2016, where the player acted like he or she had never played a video game before and was shooting health packs and shit)

3. We know that reviewers are susceptible to hype and are unable to look at the big picture (i.e. GTA4 has a higher metacritic score than GTA5, even though the vast majority of people would argue that 5 is a better game and that 4 had a lot of flaws, or MGSV getting 10s across the board the day the game came out and then was absolutely ignored afterwards)


so basically you need to view game reviews as a sort of PR. really all they are good for is letting you know if a game has some massive glaring issue that is so bad that even Ubisoftbux and OMG HYPE cannot compensate for, like constant crashing, game-breaking bugs, etc
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found the gamergatergoober
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Sexypwnstar posted...

found the gamergatergoober

nah i dont care about the gender shit or "ethics in journalism" stuff, i have nothing invested

i just think 99% of game reviews are PR bullshit in disguise
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nonsensical plot

I haven't played the game since it came out, and so I've likely forgotten some stuff, but what made the plot nonsensical?
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bluezero posted...

I liked it

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boxington posted...

I haven't played the game since it came out, and so I've likely forgotten some stuff, but what made the plot nonsensical?

Everything
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I enjoyed it very much.

boxington posted...

nonsensical plot

I haven't played the game since it came out, and so I've likely forgotten some stuff, but what made the plot nonsensical?

The way it jumps around from city in the sky, the vox/whatever conflict, alternate dimensions, then proceeding to ignore and not resolving any of them in favor of the personal drama between Booker and Elizabeth culminating into a dumb ending that was just meant to go "WHAT A TWIST DOWNER ENDING" and was quickly overturned and made moot by Burial at Sea anyway.
Also, the way Levine tried to make it so that the whole universe was apparently set up to make Bioshock 1 happen (which is a fanfiction plot) so badly that he didnt care how badly the story and plot holes became.
For example, how was Rapture supposed to have been influenced by Columbia when the ending was supposed to have wiped it away from existence and never happening? Why was Elizabeth (who should've been wiped away at the ending) suddenly turned mortal from going into the real world when the luteces was in the real world all the time in the main story? How did Elizabeth get wiped by a big daddy when she could control time and space and beat Songbird while doing so?

tldr It became dumb fanficton/comic book quality writing. And it's not like the gunplay that regressed from the previous games makes up for it. The main redeeming feature of Infinite was the graphics and settings which was definitely amazing but doesn't excuse the inferior gameplay and writing.
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