Board 8 > lmfao! FFVII is actually losing!

(+) Yeah! (+)

Well I guess I was wrong! hahahahaha
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lmfao!
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ecks dee!
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EL Oh El
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There goes bracket!
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FF7 has actually gotten quite a bit weaker over the years.

In another games bracket I'd actually strongly consider taking Pokemon RBY > FF7 as a last-ditch make-or-break pick at this point.

EDIT: Actually, I forgot that Melee beat FF7 last year. Screw make-or-break, RBY is probably the favorite to beat FF7 at this point.
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AdmiralZephyr posted...

FF7 has actually gotten quite a bit weaker over the years.

In another games bracket I'd actually strongly consider taking Pokemon RBY > FF7 as a last-ditch make-or-break pick at this point.

EDIT: Actually, I forgot that Melee beat FF7 last year. Screw make-or-break, RBY is probably the favorite to beat FF7 at this point.

Yeah, Square in general doesn't seem to be quite as strong as it used to be. The top games are still on the "elite" tier, but they're the lower end of it; I wouldn't be surprised if the top 5 games on this site now were all Nintendo--OoT and Melee obviously, and probably ALttP, SM64, and RBY, with an off-chance of Majora's Mask taking down RBY. Yes, Majora's Mask totally proved its legitimacy last time, nearly holding up to ALttP. But since I doubt that's even the most surprising assertion in that sentence, allow me to elaborate.

Yes, Super Mario 64 is insanely strong. Let's look at its contest history:

In 2004, Ceej and his obsession with making the brackets into SFF fests pitted it against OoT in Round 2, and after nearly getting 85% in R1 on a game that probably only made the field because of the nutty nomination form (one nomination per console, and the Sega Saturn didn't really have many worthy nominees), it got crushed by the legend. Link has always owned Mario, though, and OoT might be even stronger than Link the character.

In 2009, Mario starts off by SFFing Kirby Super Star into getting doubled by second-place SotN and nearly doubled by third-place RE1, then gets joined for Round 2 by Chrono Trigger and Yoshi's Island and still manages to easily take first place despite there being a second Mario game in the poll. Against Chrono Trigger. Oh, and it SFFed Yoshi's Island so hard that SotN still managed to double it despite barely breaking 28% on second-place Chrono Trigger. Round 3, uh...CT actually manages to get closer with FFVII in the poll, suggesting that SM64 was somehow hurt more by being on the same console as Goldeneye than being from the same series as Yoshi's Island, even though CT is from the same genre, developer, and partially the same console as FFVII. Finally, it bowed out in Round 4 when, of course, a Zelda game entered the picture (namely Link to the Past), and it was a pretty close match (although if you believe that "same console matters more" theory, ALttP would've been weakened by FFVI's presence every bit as much as FFVII should've been, so this is actually a disappointment.)

2015, though, is pure god-tier. 80% in an SFF beatdown in Round 1, nearly doubling FFT in Round 2, finally getting over the hump against Zelda with an "Ulti-style blowout" of Twilight Princess in Round 3, an impressive 61-39 win over Skyrim in Round 4 (yes, that is impressive; look at the opponents Skyrim beat to get that far. Goldeneye and Metroid Prime have both been legit in these contests, and I now firmly believe that it was Skyrim, not some out-of-nowhere "wait, is Skyward Sword ahead of Twilight Princess in the Zelda hierarchy?", that gave 2011 the upset over 2006), and here's the kicker: 48.67% on Undertale one round after Pokémon RBYG, which was supposed to be our great hope for a counterrally, managed only 48.48%, and one round before Melee, which we know was counterrallying, got 48.80%. And this can't just be some "freakin' Mario" thing because SMW barely broke 45%. (Undertale's highest percentage actually came in the finals, which is hilarious.) L-Block's 2007 run proved that these rallies build momentum, so how did SM64 outdo RBYG's percentage in a later round? Simple: regardless of what the bonus poll said about the two in a direct matchup (a 57.67% win for RBYG), Super Mario 64 is clearly the stronger game indirectly!
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Lmao
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TsunamiXXVIII posted...

a game that probably only made the field because of the nutty nomination form (one nomination per console, and the Sega Saturn didn't really have many worthy nominees)

Not to mention the one-per-series-per-division rule as well, which Ceej himself confirmed snubbed FF8, and I refuse to believe Majora's Mask didn't get enough noms to make the bracket otherwise as well.
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