Poll of the Day > Let's talk about Alien Covenant. (Only those who saw it. Spoilerz)

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IAmNowGone
05/20/17 12:18:37 AM
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I've got to say, while it definitely was a good Alien film, it's as if they completely erased Prometheus. Like they wanted to pretend it didn't happen. And by killing all the engineers AND killing Shaw they did just that. Prometheus was good and im probably the minority. If it had answered more questions than it posed, it would have been brilliant.

But now, it almost seems like those questions are NEVER going to be answered. Ever. And it sucks to think about that.
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Greenfox111
05/20/17 12:20:10 AM
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i didnt watch it but i felt compelled to reply since you said only those who saw it
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AdrammeIech
05/20/17 12:20:22 AM
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Greenfox111 posted...
i didnt watch it but i felt compelled to reply since you said only those who saw it
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IAmNowGone
05/20/17 12:32:08 AM
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Greenfox111 posted...
i didnt watch it but i felt compelled to reply since you said only those who saw it


Hey whatever floats your boat.

AdrammeIech posted...
Greenfox111 posted...
i didnt watch it but i felt compelled to reply since you said only those who saw it


You too. I only said it because of the spoilery nature of the thread.
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SushiSquid
05/20/17 12:51:02 AM
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AdrammeIech posted...
Greenfox111 posted...
i didnt watch it but i felt compelled to reply since you said only those who saw it

Also Prometheus was terrible. It's a real shame too, because if you've read about original plans for the story, you know how good it should have been.
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IAmNowGone
05/20/17 1:01:59 AM
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SushiSquid posted...
AdrammeIech posted...
Greenfox111 posted...
i didnt watch it but i felt compelled to reply since you said only those who saw it

Also Prometheus was terrible. It's a real shame too, because if you've read about original plans for the story, you know how good it should have been.


I know I know. I've beat myself up over it already. My only gripes were the unanswered questions. Sucks that scrapped most of the original plans for it. Really does. But rather than try to erase it. Answer the damn questions. It haunts me. I like horror and death as much as the next guy but i also love intrigue and deep thinking.

Tragic.
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IAmNowGone
05/20/17 6:32:14 AM
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DarkwingDidi
05/20/17 7:26:45 AM
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IAmNowGone posted...
I've got to say, while it definitely was a good Alien film, it's as if they completely erased Prometheus

and guess what?Giving the ending it will almost be as if this movie hasn't existed as well,since everything that happened could have been easily explained in a couple of minutes without for the movie at all.
So it kinda felt pointless in the long run.If Davids experiments and genoocide had been in it instead of just a small explanation/flashback it would have been a bit better imo.


The movie itself was allright though,except for the subpar pacing and the whiny female lead.

also:
Killing Shaw off-screen---wtf?

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ParanoidObsessive
05/20/17 7:53:32 AM
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AdrammeIech posted...
Greenfox111 posted...
i didnt watch it but i felt compelled to reply since you said only those who saw it

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OneTimeBen
05/20/17 8:19:44 AM
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Is it a good movie? And by good I mean entertaining. Worth watching and worth my time.
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Zangrief
05/20/17 8:26:41 AM
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OneTimeBen posted...
Is it a good movie? And by good I mean entertaining. Worth watching and worth my time.


If you like the Alien series, then I'd say yes.

It's a departure from the rest. But my wife and I enjoyed it.
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OneTimeBen
05/20/17 8:35:34 AM
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Zangrief posted...
OneTimeBen posted...
Is it a good movie? And by good I mean entertaining. Worth watching and worth my time.


If you like the Alien series, then I'd say yes.

It's a departure from the rest. But my wife and I enjoyed it.

Good enough for me. Thanks
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LeetCheet
05/20/17 8:51:11 AM
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It was worth a watch IMO.
The ending was really depressing though. Jesus...
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Zangrief
05/20/17 8:53:54 AM
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LeetCheet posted...
It was worth a watch IMO.
The ending wasreally depressing though. Jesus...


Lol. My wife didn't catch that it was David at first. She said she'd have to watch again to see when the switch happened. I told her because I noticed immediately.

The guy sitting next to me and someone else in his part kept saying Fuck at parts of the movie. You know that elongated Fuck like they're surprised.
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IAmNowGone
05/20/17 9:30:03 AM
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DarkwingDidi posted...
IAmNowGone posted...
I've got to say, while it definitely was a good Alien film, it's as if they completely erased Prometheus

and guess what?Giving the ending it will almost be as if this movie hasn't existed as well,since everything that happened could have been easily explained in a couple of minutes without for the movie at all.
So it kinda felt pointless in the long run.If Davids experiments and genoocide had been in it instead of just a small explanation/flashback it would have been a bit better imo.


The movie itself was allright though,except for the subpar pacing and the whiny female lead.

also:
Killing Shaw off-screen---wtf?



It's basically a reboot without it actually being a reboot. Completely disappointing the more I think about it. I'm hoping there's another gap between the genocide and David's descent. But I won't hold my breath. Motherfucking fuck I wanted answers. >:(
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IAmNowGone
05/20/17 9:30:42 AM
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OneTimeBen posted...
Is it a good movie? And by good I mean entertaining. Worth watching and worth my time.


Yes. Very entertaining but as a huge fan of Prometheus, I am disappoint.
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Jen0125
05/20/17 10:21:18 AM
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I thought it was boring and the dialogue kept making me laugh. :/ but the little white alien babies were sooo cute
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IAmNowGone
05/20/17 11:50:45 AM
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Jen0125 posted...
I thought it was boring and the dialogue kept making me laugh. :/ but the little white alien babies were sooo cute


Cute? Bitch those things were terrifyingly awesome.
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Jen0125
05/20/17 4:42:21 PM
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They were so adorable :3
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Cacciato
05/20/17 7:36:34 PM
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So did David actually kill all those people at that city?
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IAmNowGone
05/20/17 7:39:04 PM
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Cacciato posted...
So did David actually kill all those people at that city?


Yes. He wiped out all the engineers for no actual reason.
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Cacciato
05/20/17 7:42:37 PM
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IAmNowGone posted...
Cacciato posted...
So did David actually kill all those people at that city?


Yes. He wiped out all the engineers for no actual reason.

It just seemed out of nowhere. They were on the original planet from Prometheus, right?
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Lil69Leo
05/20/17 7:48:03 PM
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IAmNowGone posted...
Cacciato posted...
So did David actually kill all those people at that city?


Yes. He wiped out all the engineers for no actual reason.


I believe the reasoning was that he was playing god like they did.
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IAmNowGone
05/20/17 7:56:04 PM
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Cacciato posted...
IAmNowGone posted...
Cacciato posted...
So did David actually kill all those people at that city?


Yes. He wiped out all the engineers for no actual reason.

It just seemed out of nowhere. They were on the original planet from Prometheus, right?


No. Different planet. The Engineers homeworld.

Lil69Leo posted...
IAmNowGone posted...
Cacciato posted...
So did David actually kill all those people at that city?


Yes. He wiped out all the engineers for no actual reason.


I believe the reasoning was that he was playing god like they did.


Idk. Seems cheap to me. Easy way for Ridley to be like "lol u thought u were getting answers "
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Cacciato
05/20/17 7:57:30 PM
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IAmNowGone posted...
No. Different planet. The Engineers homeworld.

Oh word. I dont know how I missed that part.

Oh shit, that's right, they dipped out at the end of Prometheus.
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KogaSteelfang
05/20/17 8:29:31 PM
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IAmNowGone posted...
Cacciato posted...
So did David actually kill all those people at that city?


Yes. He wiped out all the engineers for no actual reason.

What I don't get... did he pilot the ship there perfectly, wipe them out, then crash trying to escape? Because his ship was clearly crashed in the mountains above the city, but in the flashback he docked at that scorpion tail thing in the jockey city.

Also, I was surprised his hair grew. That just seemed odd.
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Jen0125
05/20/17 8:33:27 PM
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Hey Kwame remember that little rover that came out of the ship when they landed on the unknown planet?

It reminded me of Ernie because he seemed like he was following his owner lovingly :3
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IAmNowGone
05/20/17 8:39:29 PM
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KogaSteelfang posted...
IAmNowGone posted...
Cacciato posted...
So did David actually kill all those people at that city?


Yes. He wiped out all the engineers for no actual reason.

What I don't get... did he pilot the ship there perfectly, wipe them out, then crash trying to escape? Because his ship was clearly crashed in the mountains above the city, but in the flashback he docked at that scorpion tail thing in the jockey city.

Also, I was surprised his hair grew. That just seemed odd.


Holes inside of holes inside of holes. Maybe he crashed during the whole confusion.

Jen0125 posted...
Hey Kwame remember that little rover that came out of the ship when they landed on the unknown planet?

It reminded me of Ernie because he seemed like he was following his owner lovingly :3


Now instead of the rover im picturing ernie and its so cute
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Zangrief
05/20/17 9:08:15 PM
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Elizabeth probably fought him after he released the pathogen, which lead to the crashing of the ship.
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KogaSteelfang
05/20/17 9:19:11 PM
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Zangrief posted...
Elizabeth probably fought him after he released the pathogen, which lead to the crashing of the ship.

That makes sense. I wish they'd gone into a bit more detail about what happened to her.
He did say she died during the crash after all.
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DarkwingDidi
05/21/17 5:13:59 AM
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KogaSteelfang posted...
I wish they'd gone into a bit more detail about what happened to her

Wasn't she lying there with a ripped up belly? I tought he died some experiments to her to to work on the new alien forms.
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Blitzoff1987
05/21/17 5:22:07 AM
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Zangrief posted...
OneTimeBen posted...
Is it a good movie? And by good I mean entertaining. Worth watching and worth my time.


If you like the Alien series, then I'd say yes.

It's a departure from the rest. But my wife and I enjoyed it.


It's terrible as an Alien movie. It shat all over the established lore and mythos and answered practically nothing.

It's entertaining for what it is, though.
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KogaSteelfang
05/21/17 7:11:43 AM
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DarkwingDidi posted...
KogaSteelfang posted...
I wish they'd gone into a bit more detail about what happened to her

Wasn't she lying there with a ripped up belly? I tought he died some experiments to her to to work on the new alien forms.

Yeah, but it didn't really say whether he killed her himself, if she really did die in the crash, or if she died from his experiments. Just seeing her body dissected didn't really answer much imo.
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Blitzoff1987
05/21/17 9:30:35 AM
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KogaSteelfang posted...
DarkwingDidi posted...
KogaSteelfang posted...
I wish they'd gone into a bit more detail about what happened to her

Wasn't she lying there with a ripped up belly? I tought he died some experiments to her to to work on the new alien forms.

Yeah, but it didn't really say whether he killed her himself, if she really did die in the crash, or if she died from his experiments. Just seeing her body dissected didn't really answer much imo.


It wasn't said specifically, but his reaction to Walter's question made it pretty obvious.
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ReggieTheReckless
05/21/17 9:39:53 AM
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Not going to watch it, but its basically the prequel that tells what happened to the ship they find in the first alien, right?

So instead of another sequel they can now release "Alien HD"as a followup :p

Shit, I don't even like the second movie in the series and I think I'm alone in that. Too actiony.
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IAmNowGone
05/21/17 12:22:08 PM
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ReggieTheReckless posted...
Not going to watch it, but its basically the prequel that tells what happened to the ship they find in the first alien, right?

So instead of another sequel they can now release "Alien HD"as a followup :p

Shit, I don't even like the second movie in the series and I think I'm alone in that. Too actiony.


Nah. That was Prometheus. Covenant is the sequel to Prometheus. It feels very hollow in the sense that practically no questions were answered and the most interesting parts of Prometheus were killed in favor of crazy David and lots of gore and killing.
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IAmNowGone
05/22/17 9:22:31 AM
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Zangrief
05/22/17 9:32:34 AM
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KogaSteelfang posted...
Zangrief posted...
Elizabeth probably fought him after he released the pathogen, which lead to the crashing of the ship.

That makes sense. I wish they'd gone into a bit more detail about what happened to her.
He did say she died during the crash after all.


Supposedly the next movie will answer all of that and be set between Prometheus and Covenant.

Ridley has already said he wants to do 3 more after that if it does well.
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Zangrief
05/22/17 9:35:33 AM
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Blitzoff1987 posted...
Zangrief posted...
OneTimeBen posted...
Is it a good movie? And by good I mean entertaining. Worth watching and worth my time.


If you like the Alien series, then I'd say yes.

It's a departure from the rest. But my wife and I enjoyed it.


It's terrible as an Alien movie. It shat all over the established lore and mythos and answered practically nothing.

It's entertaining for what it is, though.


It hasn't shit on anything. It just didn't spoon feed answers.

Yes, it made more questions than it answered, but that doesn't make it a bad movie for me.

Then again, I only love the Alien universe. Except Resurrection and Requiem.

Makes me want to go back and read The Female War.
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DarkwingDidi
05/22/17 10:02:44 AM
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Zangrief posted...
Ridley has already said he wants to do 3 more after that if it does wel

I thought he just just wanted to make 4 prequels?
I honestly don't know how he will drag on this shit for 3 more movies.
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Zangrief
05/22/17 10:10:23 AM
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DarkwingDidi posted...
Zangrief posted...
Ridley has already said he wants to do 3 more after that if it does wel

I thought he just just wanted to make 4 prequels?
I honestly don't know how he will drag on this shit for 3 more movies.


That may have been what he meant. But what I read said he wants to do 3 more. This was after Covenant was already done and talking about Awakening. Either way.

And there's plenty to drag out. I almost can't get enough of Aliens series. >_>

Makes me want to go start reading my old pen and paper RPG manual for it.
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DarkwingDidi
05/22/17 10:18:35 AM
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Zangrief posted...
And there's plenty to drag out. I almost can't get enough of Aliens

I would have no issue with more movies in general,though the prequels that close in from Prometheus to Alien don't have neccesary that much to cover in my opinion.

If there would be movies that take place after Resurection,or betwen Alien and Aliens in example ,it would be fine.

But not more prequels just for the sake of making prequels.
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Zangrief
05/22/17 10:21:32 AM
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DarkwingDidi posted...
Zangrief posted...
And there's plenty to drag out. I almost can't get enough of Aliens

I would have no issue with more movies in general,though the prequels that close in from Prometheus to Alien don't have neccesary that much to cover in my opinion.

If there would be movies that take place after Resurection,or betwen Alien and Aliens in example ,it would be fine.

But not more prequels just for the sake of making prequels.


The best way I've seen this put is that it's a reboot without actually rebooting.

It might tie directly into Alien at some point. But it looks like it'll just kind of putz around on its own in different parts of space.
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ernieforss
05/22/17 1:35:54 PM
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i saw it this weekend. it felt like Prometheus 2 rather than an Alein movie.

I feel like Ridly Scott should have just made the Blade Runner movie and keep androids out of aliens. I hope this is a some kind of joke that they are playing with us. Blade Runner going to be more about Aliens rather than Androids and their evolutions.
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