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thompsontalker7 05/17/17 4:17:36 PM #51: |
SF_Okami posted...
thompsontalker7 posted...SF_Okami posted...I hate almost all JRPGs so....meh yeah I get that I've been partial to more WRPGs the older I get actually --- You haven't set a signature for the message boards yet. Might wanna get on that, yeah? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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darkphoenix181 05/17/17 4:17:51 PM #52: |
thompsontalker7 posted...
I haven't touched Disgaea since 2012 thompsontalker7 posted... Tappor posted...i'm a nintendrone and don't see anything wrong with disgaea--or any game that isn't really available on nintendo consoles, really--being put on the switch https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Fire_Emblem_video_games Fire Emblem is a series of tactical role-playing video games developed by Intelligent Systems and published by Nintendo. Its first game released in Japan in 1990, and is credited with both originating and popularizing its genre. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tactical_role-playing_game However, the genre did not become prolific until Nintendo released and published the game that set the template for tactical wargame RPGs, Fire Emblem: Ankoku Ry%u016B to Hikari no Tsurugi, created and developed by Intelligent Systems for the NES. Released in Japan in 1990, Fire Emblem was an archetype for the whole genre, establishing gameplay elements that are still used in tactical RPGs today, if it wasn't an imitation it wouldn't be an srpg since fire emblem cemented the elements that make a game part of the genre like how ridiculous to get triggered by people given the game that defined the genre the credit for defining the genre --- sigless user is me or am I? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SF_Okami 05/17/17 4:27:14 PM #53: |
Disagea, Final Fantasy, and especially fucking Kingdom Heart with the fucking Disney characters I can't take seriously.
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thompsontalker7 05/17/17 4:28:42 PM #54: |
that's not what I said though
I said you can't call something an imitation just because someone else has been doing it longer was Tekken an imitation Virtua Fighter because VF came out first --- You haven't set a signature for the message boards yet. Might wanna get on that, yeah? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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darkphoenix181 05/17/17 4:30:49 PM #55: |
thompsontalker7 posted...
that's not what I said though then the error seems to be on your part not understanding that it isn't because fire emblem was simply doing it longer but because fire emblem defined the genre --- sigless user is me or am I? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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thompsontalker7 05/17/17 5:25:50 PM #56: |
I can tell you just wanna argue seeing as how you somehow reached that conclusion when I was just initially explaining why people didn't play Disgaea on the fucking DS of all systems lol
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Spidey5 05/17/17 5:28:55 PM #57: |
Nintendo fans aren't very smart when it comes to Japanese games that are too Japanese. Whatever that means.
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darkphoenix181 05/17/17 7:16:26 PM #58: |
thompsontalker7 posted...
I can tell you just wanna argue seeing as how you somehow reached that conclusion when I was just initially explaining why people didn't play Disgaea on the fucking DS of all systems lol im·i·ta·tion thompsontalker7 posted... I said you can't call something an imitation just because someone else has been doing it longer being that disgaea is not a new genre maker, it didn't make a new genre, it is by all definitions an imitation it takes the mold that fire emblem created and uses that just cause you maybe don't like fire emblem doesn't mean people who call it an imitation are wrong, and I doubt they are even saying that negatively like "omg they copying fire emblem!!" infact what was quoted earlier shows they didn't do that, they said "this game seems similar" as in, it has elements of it is taken from the mold of so no, you are dead wrong I reached no conclusion, I simply quoted what you said it is very obvious you probably had no idea that fire emblem essentially is what made the genre and thus you got butthurt that people dared suggest disgaea copied from fire emblem but it cannot be denied that indeed disgaea did copy from fire emblem when it is the genre setter, else the game would be in a different genre but now that you know it made the genre, you can't admit you were wrong, shame --- sigless user is me or am I? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Axiom 05/17/17 7:17:45 PM #59: |
Did you really expect Switch owners to like Disgaea. Have you seen the games that Nintendo typically releases on their consoles
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Cookie Bag 05/17/17 7:20:05 PM #60: |
Axiom posted...
Did you really expect Switch owners to like Disgaea. Have you seen the games that Nintendo typically releases on their consoles To be honest it takes a special kind of person to fully enjoy the disgaea games, they're the epitome of "Grindy" gameplay, and i love it lol. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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thompsontalker7 05/17/17 7:21:30 PM #61: |
You're wrong on your whole "imitation=precedent" insane troll logic because the two games share almost no similarities besides having a grid system and turn based combat
No one's trying to take anything away from Fire Emblem, you know? But no, you're convinced that I'm trying to downplay Fire Emblem's importance for the genre despite that having absolutely no bearing in what I said previously All this because you're fucking pissed that I didn't imply that a few people played the DS Disgaea lol ffs I thought that was more straightforward do you still think I'm a Sony shill or something lol --- You haven't set a signature for the message boards yet. Might wanna get on that, yeah? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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thompsontalker7 05/17/17 7:22:00 PM #62: |
Cookie Bag posted...
Axiom posted...Did you really expect Switch owners to like Disgaea. Have you seen the games that Nintendo typically releases on their consoles I like the over-the-top animations and character designs myself --- You haven't set a signature for the message boards yet. Might wanna get on that, yeah? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Axiom 05/17/17 7:23:33 PM #63: |
Cookie Bag posted...
Axiom posted...Did you really expect Switch owners to like Disgaea. Have you seen the games that Nintendo typically releases on their consoles I like it too. I remember playing the first Disgaea on a lark and ending up loving it but yeah this game is definitely not for the typical nintendo crowd ... Copied to Clipboard!
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darkphoenix181 05/17/17 7:25:50 PM #64: |
thompsontalker7 posted...
You're wrong on your whole "imitation=precedent" insane troll logic because the two games share almost no similarities besides having a grid system and turn based combat if they are so different, then why are they in the same genre?
and no I am not pissed at all you are the one who said you got triggered and I am giving you the information to make the correct decision to not be triggered by actual historical facts you can't deny disgaea is in the same genre because it imitiates the elements, it is as simple as that like the first rapper set what it means to be a rap, the next guy imitates him, and they guy after imitates him as well they can bring new things to rap, but to have their music still be labeled rap it must imitate the first elements the first dude who rapped set as the foundation what part of that is hard to understand? the next guy who tries to be super revolutionary instead winds up not making rap but a whole new genre, he then isn't an imitator but a trend setter but disgeae didn't make a new genre --- sigless user is me or am I? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Megaman50100 05/17/17 7:26:38 PM #65: |
Disgaea 5 is going to be my second physical switch game.
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thompsontalker7 05/17/17 7:28:08 PM #66: |
darkphoenix181 posted...
obviously. your mistake is thinking that being in the same genre equals imitation of Fire Emblem darkphoenix181 posted...
nothing you have said so far has been fact outside of those random definitions you posted don't start with me kiddo I'm in a debating mood tonight --- You haven't set a signature for the message boards yet. Might wanna get on that, yeah? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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steveoSEK 05/17/17 7:28:38 PM #67: |
I was looking into getting it in switch
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Mist_Turnips 05/17/17 7:30:31 PM #68: |
How can Disgaia be an imitation of Fire Emblem when Disgaia is actually good?
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Axiom 05/17/17 7:32:51 PM #69: |
Mist_Turnips posted...
How can Disgaia be an imitation of Fire Emblem when Disgaia is actually good? Wait did someone call it an imitation of Fire Emblem in this topic. Lmao. If you're going to call it an imitation of anything then it should be Final Fantasy Tactics ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Leanaunfurled 05/17/17 7:35:36 PM #70: |
He said imitation in the same vein someone would use rip-off, it really doesn't take a genius to realize that. You know, like Dark Souls - > Lords of the Fallen. Disgaea and Fire Emblem have the same tactical combat and...that's it. You'd have to be a joke poster to insist Disgaea an imitation.
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FighterStreet 05/17/17 7:42:30 PM #71: |
NinjaPirateDood posted...
EbonTitanium posted...LightHawKnight posted...FighterStreet posted...creativerealms posted...When did SRPGs start being known as TRPGs? it's amazing how many people dont actually click the link and read the first couple of lines your answer is in there ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Cookie Bag 05/17/17 9:07:14 PM #72: |
Axiom posted...
Cookie Bag posted...Axiom posted...Did you really expect Switch owners to like Disgaea. Have you seen the games that Nintendo typically releases on their consoles I would say typical anything crowd, not just nintendo, the game revolves around grinding, not everyone likes that sort of shit. Edit: then again this topic was made specifically to take a dump on people that play on nintendo consoles so eh --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KLouD_KoNNeCteD 05/17/17 9:09:22 PM #73: |
Who cares about the Nintendo Shitch??
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Megaman50100 05/17/17 9:32:47 PM #74: |
Axiom posted...
Wait did someone call it an imitation of Fire Emblem in this topic. Lmao. If you're going to call it an imitation of anything then it should be Final Fantasy Tactics which is an imitation of Tactics Ogre, down to the same art style. --- move all remaining groundhog mercenaries to the front lines. Have sheep troopers squadrons A and B flank the cows. They're using DC-17 hoof blasters. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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GiftedACIII 05/17/17 11:30:00 PM #75: |
What? From what I've seen Switch fans uphold that game as a reason to get Switch. It's not like Switch has any other games out there besides Zelda right now anyway.
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thompsontalker7 05/18/17 12:16:15 AM #76: |
GiftedACIII posted...
What? From what I've seen Switch fans uphold that game as a reason to get Switch. It's not like Switch has any other games out there besides Zelda right now anyway. It does have the best version of Puyo Puyo for some reason Keep in mind if you told me about that game a month ago I would've laughed it off --- You haven't set a signature for the message boards yet. Might wanna get on that, yeah? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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darkphoenix181 05/18/17 12:19:37 PM #77: |
Megaman50100 posted...
Axiom posted...Wait did someone call it an imitation of Fire Emblem in this topic. Lmao. If you're going to call it an imitation of anything then it should be Final Fantasy Tactics which is an imitiation of fire emblem https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Fire_Emblem_video_games Fire Emblem is a series of tactical role-playing video games developed by Intelligent Systems and published by Nintendo. Its first game released in Japan in 1990, and is credited with both originating and popularizing its genre. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tactical_role-playing_game
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darkphoenix181 05/18/17 12:22:01 PM #78: |
Leanaunfurled posted...
He said imitation in the same vein someone would use rip-off, it really doesn't take a genius to realize that. You know, like Dark Souls - > Lords of the Fallen. Disgaea and Fire Emblem have the same tactical combat and...that's it. You'd have to be a joke poster to insist Disgaea an imitation. except tc is the one who used imitiation when the people who triggered him didn't actually say imitiation but things like "are these games similar?" "this is like fire emblem" imitation as a word doesn't mean rip off though, it literally just means to imitate something, which means take from which is undisputable when fire emblem set the genre, of course if you have a game in the same genre, you are mimicking or imitating the element that make fire emblem an srpg else you made no srpg here is what triggers tc thompsontalker7 posted... Turbam posted...Also, where are all these switch owners that are looking at D5 negatively? --- sigless user is me or am I? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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thompsontalker7 05/18/17 2:33:05 PM #79: |
shut the fuck up Rika
no one cared what you thought to begin with --- You haven't set a signature for the message boards yet. Might wanna get on that, yeah? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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GiftedACIII 05/18/17 4:05:27 PM #80: |
thompsontalker7 posted...
shut the fuck up Rika lol wrong topic? He hasn't posted in here --- </topic> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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darkphoenix181 05/18/17 4:10:48 PM #81: |
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Rika_Furude 05/18/17 4:23:34 PM #82: |
Who knows wtf goes on in that clowns head
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thompsontalker7 05/18/17 4:32:01 PM #83: |
why are you talking to yourself
I don't think it's possible for two separate people to be this dense but there you go --- You haven't set a signature for the message boards yet. Might wanna get on that, yeah? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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darkphoenix181 05/18/17 4:40:07 PM #84: |
wut
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thompsontalker7 05/18/17 4:42:35 PM #85: |
you used the word imitation in the wrong context not me
suck it up build a bridge /slammed --- You haven't set a signature for the message boards yet. Might wanna get on that, yeah? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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darkphoenix181 05/18/17 5:07:01 PM #86: |
thompsontalker7 posted...
you used the word imitation in the wrong context not me thompsontalker7 posted... Tappor posted...i'm a nintendrone and don't see anything wrong with disgaea--or any game that isn't really available on nintendo consoles, really--being put on the switch thompsontalker7 posted... Turbam posted...Also, where are all these switch owners that are looking at D5 negatively? no one actually called it an imitation one of the threads you linked as why you made this topic says and I quote "Wow that Disgae 5 is weird. But not bad. Reminds me a bit of fire emblem in gameplay. I wouldn't pay $59 for it though. Dialogue is very strange (Japanese) for me. Any thoughts?" oh my goodness! How dare they suggest Disgaea is at all similar to Fire Emblem who made the genre! triggered! --- sigless user is me or am I? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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GiftedACIII 05/18/17 7:26:43 PM #87: |
thompsontalker7 posted...
why are you talking to yourself Darkphoenix is clearly not Rika, dude. --- </topic> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Darmik 05/18/17 7:33:55 PM #88: |
lol good ol' thompsontalker is literally the only account that has blocked me because he thought it was absolutely ridiculous that Nintendo would use cartridges for the Switch (NX back then) and I was a ridiculous fanboy for not thinking that it was a terrible idea.
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