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Darmik
05/14/17 10:55:29 PM
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http://gematsu.com/2017/05/sega-planning-revival-major-ips


Packaged Games Field (example titles: Total War: Warhammer, Yakuza 6: The Song of Life, Football Manager 2017, and Persona 5)
•Expand existing IPs and obtain new IPs for North American and European PC games
•Build revenue base by being entrusted with outsourced development
•Challenge for new IPs
•Revival of major IPs
•Effective utilization of development engines

Digital Games Field (example titles: Puyo Puyo!! Quest, Hortensia Saga, Chain Chronicle 3, and Phantasy Star Online 2)
•Create titles that will become global hits
•Establish digital marketing business
•Expand overseas publishing business
•Maintain profits through long-term operation of existing titles
•Develop next-generation titles


Just release HD ports of JSRF and Skies of Arcadia already!
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Damn_Underscore
05/14/17 10:55:59 PM
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Sonic Adventure 3
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Scotty_Rogers
05/14/17 10:56:07 PM
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The irony. Sega's dead and they're bring something else back to life! XD
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apolloooo
05/14/17 10:58:33 PM
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Darmik posted...
Skies of Arcadia

i would literally cum if this happen. my second favorite jrpg aside from trails series
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Zack_Attackv1
05/14/17 10:59:36 PM
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I'll believe it when I see it.
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Super Saiyan 3 Goku
05/14/17 10:59:54 PM
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Anything from the PS2-era Shinobi? No? Don't care then.
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solosnake
05/14/17 11:00:07 PM
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Altered Beast
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wufei8706
05/14/17 11:00:22 PM
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Zack_Attackv1 posted...
I'll believe it when I see it.

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Rika_Furude
05/14/17 11:01:02 PM
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NickyTheNewt
05/14/17 11:01:02 PM
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Allanon23
05/14/17 11:01:07 PM
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Sorcerer's Kingdom or bust.
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ZombiePelican
05/14/17 11:01:23 PM
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Please give me another Jet Set Radio game Sega.

It's been 15 fucking years.
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wah_wah_wah
05/14/17 11:02:12 PM
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Sega is very sad
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Skye Reynolds
05/14/17 11:02:51 PM
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CruorComa
05/14/17 11:03:12 PM
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Not that I have any hope of them successfully revitalising old beat em ups after Golden Axe, but let's just say I miss Streets of Rage.
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Raikuro
05/14/17 11:04:27 PM
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never going to get a real Phantasy Star again though, unfortunately
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TheBiggerWiggle
05/14/17 11:08:56 PM
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Is piss myself if there was a Skies of Arcadia remake, and I'm not even a huge RPG guy. That was still an excellent game.

I'd love to play a Phantasy Star game too. I never played one myself but I've heard nothing but good things about it. With online being a major part of gaming now they could properly use the mechanics.
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tremain07
05/14/17 11:09:11 PM
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NiGHTs
Billy Hatcher
Alex Kidd
Vectorman
JSRF
Space Channel
Valkhyria Profile? Drive? the game with world war 2 technology and blue haired big boobed chicks
Sakura Wars
Streets of Rage
Virtual Fighter
Shinobi

Actually using several of these guys besides voiced cameos
RpbhCio

Yeah, I don't see it, Sega just does not have the talent or money necessary to make games for these guys and to be honest, not all of them were big sellers or left a super large demand to where Sega could see a profit for them, they are forever relics of the 90s, the only reason Sonic is still alive is because he's the only one who enjoyed some measure of near Mario level fame and his extremely loyal, crazy and hypocritical fanbase coming from various media like the archic comics, the dreamcast era, the classic era, the cartoon ara, where he had 2 siblings, where he had a naked chipmunk as a girlfriend and where he was basically blue bugs bunny. Sonic was more or less a hppy accident. the most Sega has on him now is japan only shit like Poyo Poyo, Hitsuni Miku, Yakuza and Se-ga Hard Girls. They are the Bollywood to Nintendo's Hollywood.
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wah_wah_wah
05/14/17 11:10:50 PM
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Sega should just go all-in on furry porn. It'll likely make more money than any half-assed shovelware aping on nostalgia they plan on making now
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Darmik
05/14/17 11:11:06 PM
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Thinking about it I'm not sure if any of their classic IP's (that aren't still being developed) would even be considered major overall. Biggest is probably something like Altered Beast lol.
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tremain07
05/14/17 11:16:01 PM
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Yeah, it's not gonna work, they try to make a new game on an old IP and it'll be completely destroyed by the critics for either being too much like the originals, being too little like the originals or being completely different from the originals. On top of that, they do not have the original talent that worked on those games anymore, they've either retired from the industry, died, become another company's bitch or went into the tier own ventures that turned out to be massive failures like Yuji Naka's company, Rodia the sky warrior was pure ass and we haven't heard anything from them since then.
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Bringit
05/14/17 11:20:10 PM
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A Streets of Rage title made in a similar vein to the Yakuza franchise could work pretty well. Not sure how hard they should go on the story, though. I think it could be awesome.
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Questionmarktarius
05/14/17 11:22:25 PM
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Yet still, no PSO2...
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tremain07
05/14/17 11:24:44 PM
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wah_wah_wah posted...
Sega should just go all-in on furry porn. It'll likely make more money than any half-assed shovelware aping on nostalgia they plan on making now

That's probably what the new character in Forces is gonna be, I'd like to believe sega isn't stupid enough to make a brand new useless character with a horrible gimmick when the fanbase and anti fanbase alike absolutely loath anybody whose not Sonic, Tails, Knuckles, Metal Sonic or Eggman, especially if it's a 3D Sonic forcing a new playable on them. Tails and Knuckles are only allowed in 2D games like Mania and even then, they were so scared of pissing people off with Sonic 4 episode 2 having Tails playable they completely busted him down to a help button.
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Neo7
05/14/17 11:26:30 PM
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They did do Tetris and Puyo Puyo much needed justice with their latest release on NS and PS4.
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Darmik
05/14/17 11:29:24 PM
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I wonder how Sonic Team developers feel when they play 3D Mario games. Their focuses are completely different. I don't get how they look at the reception and success of those and decide to double down on everything that the Mario games don't. Let's add bullshit voice acting, gimmicks like being a werewolf and a new Sonic friend to play as! Good grief.

Sonic Colors and Generations looked like they finally had the right idea. And then they go right back into doing everything wrong again.

Now their tactic seems to be "Remember Green Hill Zone?! Play it again! Now with some extra bullshit and physics that are no where near as good as games that came out two decades ago!"
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Sputnik1337
05/14/17 11:30:32 PM
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tremain07 posted...
Valkhyria Profile? Drive? the game with world war 2 technology and blue haired big boobed chicks

Chronicles? Theres a spin off coming out next month.
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tremain07
05/14/17 11:36:18 PM
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Sputnik1337 posted...
tremain07 posted...
Valkhyria Profile? Drive? the game with world war 2 technology and blue haired big boobed chicks

Chronicles? Theres a spin off coming out next month.

They'll never make a sequel because then they won't be able to shove that big boobed blank wall of a character in it.

Darmik posted...
I wonder how Sonic Team developers feel when they play 3D Mario games. Their focuses are completely different. I don't get how they look at the reception and success of those and decide to double down on everything that the Mario games don't. Let's add bullshit voice acting, gimmicks like being a werewolf and a new Sonic friend to play as! Good grief.

Sonic Colors and Generations looked like they finally had the right idea. And then they go right back into doing everything wrong again.

Now their tactic seems to be "Remember Green Hill Zone?! Play it again! Now with some extra bullshit and physics that are no where near as good as games that came out two decades ago!"

Nope, Colors and Generations were bad,too. Classic Sonic's playstyle was an insult to how he was in the games he was from, you can't roll to gain speed, you have to use the spin dash, tons of automated paths, then they even given him the homing attack because obviously he needed that, as for the voices, The only time they've sounded good is in the Sonic Boom cartoon where they don't have the shitty game voice director and writers and even then, Booms humor relies on meta shit like Knuckles being from Angel Island, watchers knowing about Chris-Chan, Sonic Passion, Sanic memes, the general dislike of Shadow the hedgehog's fanbase,political bullshit jokes about climate change and SJWs and Sticks being a the same character tons of other modern day cartoon characters are, random, dumb, crazy and a lunatic.
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FightingGames
05/14/17 11:36:55 PM
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all exclusive to the dreamcast 2 which will be revealed for E3 2017
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l33t_iRk3n_Rm33
05/14/17 11:38:39 PM
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Man, what is a major IP to them? Hard to say just what is a major SEGA franchise when all it's been putting out is Sonic and Yakuza.

If that means NiGHTS (side note: it doesn't) I will shit my pants
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tremain07
05/14/17 11:38:57 PM
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Well, at the very least, they probably wouldn't do as bad as Microsoft's Xbone/Scorpio thing. I don't think I've seen a single person excited for it or really care about the Xbone at all
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Questionmarktarius
05/14/17 11:39:32 PM
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FightingGames posted...
all exclusive to the dreamcast 2 which will be revealed for E3 2017

Between Sega and Atlus, it might just work?
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l33t_iRk3n_Rm33
05/14/17 11:40:06 PM
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The word "major" there does, of course, completely stamp out that tiny speck of hope that they could mean Ristar.
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Terra-enforcer
05/14/17 11:41:35 PM
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Zack_Attackv1 posted...
I'll believe it when I see it.

This. Well, I do kind of believe it. A resurgence of 10 or so mobile games and more Sonic spin offs on consoles. I don't see this being anything serious though.
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Terra-enforcer
05/14/17 11:47:44 PM
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@Darmik posted...
Thinking about it I'm not sure if any of their classic IP's (that aren't still being developed) would even be considered major overall. Biggest is probably something like Altered Beast lol.

I was thinking the same thing pretty much some other time I was contemplating who Sega could revive.

I think their best and obvious bet would be what they kind of did around the Wii era: pander to Nintendo fans. It's crazy how I can vividly remember the two companies being situated as rivals, now it seems like Nintendo fans are the biggest Sega fans.

Samba de Amigo apparently sold close to a million copies on the Wii, NiGHTS sold about half a mill, and Super Monkey Ball generally sells well too, so I think if they stick with games like those and the crossover that sold as well (also for Smash Bros esque exposure) they can get a decent profit with the Switch as they did with the Wii since they sell surprisingly well on their platforms.
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tremain07
05/14/17 11:47:53 PM
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l33t_iRk3n_Rm33 posted...
Man, what is a major IP to them? Hard to say just what is a major SEGA franchise when all it's been putting out is Sonic and Yakuza.

If that means NiGHTS (side note: it doesn't) I will shit my pants

Would you really want more of this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UzQkr4026Y8


British woman NiGHTs can stay in the forgotten past.
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Turbam
05/14/17 11:48:46 PM
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Shit I'd buy a straight port of Skies of Arcadia.
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Terra-enforcer
05/14/17 11:49:40 PM
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tremain07 posted...
l33t_iRk3n_Rm33 posted...
Man, what is a major IP to them? Hard to say just what is a major SEGA franchise when all it's been putting out is Sonic and Yakuza.

If that means NiGHTS (side note: it doesn't) I will shit my pants

Would you really want more of this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UzQkr4026Y8


British woman NiGHTs can stay in the forgotten past.

I'll take that any day if I can also get more of:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dLwkPOFXBec

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PYFXn-VWnWU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EdMtdXwk8Yo

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Darmik
05/14/17 11:52:30 PM
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Terra-enforcer posted...
@Darmik posted...
Thinking about it I'm not sure if any of their classic IP's (that aren't still being developed) would even be considered major overall. Biggest is probably something like Altered Beast lol.

I was thinking the same thing pretty much some other time I was contemplating who Sega could revive.

I think their best and obvious bet would be what they kind of did around the Wii era: pander to Nintendo fans. It's crazy how I can vividly remember the two companies being situated as rivals, now it seems like Nintendo fans are the biggest Sega fans.

Samba de Amigo apparently sold close to a million copies on the Wii, NiGHTS sold about half a mill, and Super Monkey Ball generally sells well too, so I think if they stick with games like those and the crossover that sold as well (also for Smash Bros esque exposure) they can get a decent profit with the Switch as they did with the Wii since they sell surprisingly well on their platforms.


I hope they can at least throw some damn Genesis ROMS on the Switch. Though their 3DS ports were pretty excellent.

They could throw on some digital only sequels to games like Streets of Rage and Golden Axe. Similar to what Sonic Mania is doing.
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Terra-enforcer
05/14/17 11:59:11 PM
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Darmik posted...
Terra-enforcer posted...
@Darmik posted...
Thinking about it I'm not sure if any of their classic IP's (that aren't still being developed) would even be considered major overall. Biggest is probably something like Altered Beast lol.

I was thinking the same thing pretty much some other time I was contemplating who Sega could revive.

I think their best and obvious bet would be what they kind of did around the Wii era: pander to Nintendo fans. It's crazy how I can vividly remember the two companies being situated as rivals, now it seems like Nintendo fans are the biggest Sega fans.

Samba de Amigo apparently sold close to a million copies on the Wii, NiGHTS sold about half a mill, and Super Monkey Ball generally sells well too, so I think if they stick with games like those and the crossover that sold as well (also for Smash Bros esque exposure) they can get a decent profit with the Switch as they did with the Wii since they sell surprisingly well on their platforms.


I hope they can at least throw some damn Genesis ROMS on the Switch. Though their 3DS ports were pretty excellent.

They could throw on some digital only sequels to games like Streets of Rage and Golden Axe. Similar to what Sonic Mania is doing.

That would be nice, but I'm hoping more from them if they make announcements like this. Wii felt like a weird Sega revival and those games actually sold well, and I'm sure they could see similar results with the Switch.
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tremain07
05/15/17 12:01:05 AM
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Darmik posted...
They could throw on some digital only sequels to games like Streets of Rage and Golden Axe. Similar to what Sonic Mania is doing.

No they can't Sonic Mania is a game made by a team of Sonic fanatics who did this shit of their own accord and got noticed by Sega, A sonic game pandering to the old days of Sega is what Sonic 4 episodes 1 and 2 were and a Sonic game of old by Sega is what Sonic the hedgehog on the GBA was, we all remember this nightmare,right? It came right on the heels of 06
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=34gRxbHPTaY

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Darmik
05/15/17 12:03:49 AM
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tremain07 posted...
Darmik posted...
They could throw on some digital only sequels to games like Streets of Rage and Golden Axe. Similar to what Sonic Mania is doing.

No they can't Sonic Mania is a game made by a team of Sonic fanatics who did this shit of their own accord and got noticed by Sega, A sonic game pandering to the old days of Sega is what Sonic 4 episodes 1 and 2 were and a Sonic game of old by Sega is what Sonic the hedgehog on the GBA was, we all remember this nightmare,right? It came right on the heels of 06
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=34gRxbHPTaY


There was some Streets of Rage Remake that was really good. Got shut down by Sega though. I guess timing matters.
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Terra-enforcer
05/15/17 12:04:24 AM
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tremain07 posted...
Darmik posted...
They could throw on some digital only sequels to games like Streets of Rage and Golden Axe. Similar to what Sonic Mania is doing.

No they can't Sonic Mania is a game made by a team of Sonic fanatics who did this shit of their own accord and got noticed by Sega, A sonic game pandering to the old days of Sega is what Sonic 4 episodes 1 and 2 were and a Sonic game of old by Sega is what Sonic the hedgehog on the GBA was, we all remember this nightmare,right? It came right on the heels of 06
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=34gRxbHPTaY

Mania isn't a fanmade game or anything. I'm not sure why people say that just because it's not made by Sega Team. Chris Whitehead has worked with Sega before on official releases. He's not just "some fanatic."

And technically Sonic Advance 1-3 were also games that "pandered to the old days" and were some of the best GBA games there were.
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ChromaticAngel
05/15/17 12:05:30 AM
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tremain07 posted...
Actually using several of these guys besides voiced cameos

Nobody wants these people to be used. If there was a Mario Party with sonic characters, most of them wouldn't make the cut for being too stupid and unliked, and Mario Party has Daisy.
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Raikuro
05/15/17 12:08:19 AM
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ChromaticAngel posted...
If there was a Mario Party with sonic characters

*another
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Darmik
05/15/17 12:08:37 AM
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Virtua Fighter could make a comeback maybe.

Crazy to think back in the day that the big fighting game debate was between Tekken and Virtua Fighter.
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tremain07
05/15/17 12:08:45 AM
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Terra-enforcer posted...
I'll take that any day if I can also get more of:

Why did you do this? You know using music form a NiGHTS game is just as much cheating as it is for a Sonic game! I always thought NiGHTS existed in Sonic's world in dreams and that's why he was always cameo'd in them such as Battle, Riders, Adventures 1 and 2 and Pinball
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ChromaticAngel
05/15/17 12:09:17 AM
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Raikuro posted...
ChromaticAngel posted...
If there was a Mario Party with sonic characters

*another

I meant in a sense of "Sonic Party" as in It's a sonic game featuring predominantly Sonic characters.
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Darmik
05/15/17 12:09:22 AM
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https://twitter.com/Obsidian/status/863948426626572289

I wonder if this is a hint for something. They've worked with Sega in the past.
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