Board 8 > 1990 lost to 2000?

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LukeInside
05/08/17 1:02:46 AM
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That's ridiculous to be honest. These "contests" seem to work as always - by "which games I like the most" method, while it should be judged objectively. Some titles are well respected and recognised, even if you didn't play every one of them :) When I done this by myself it came out that the winner was 1991. I hope that's possible...
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EmDubyaSee
05/08/17 1:04:25 AM
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LukeInside posted...
That's ridiculous to be honest. These "contests" seem to work as always - by "which games I like the most" method, while it should be judged objectively. Some titles are well respected and recognised, even if you didn't play every one of them :) When I done this by myself it came out that the winner was 1991. I hope that's possible...



98 wins in a landslide.

MM is a better game than SMB3 anyway.

Fair, next.
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ninkendo
05/08/17 1:08:07 AM
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LOLIAmAnAlt
05/08/17 1:20:42 AM
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EmDubyaSee posted...
MM is a better game than SMB3 anyway.

MM is the only Zelda I have ever put down without completing.
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EmDubyaSee
05/08/17 1:22:39 AM
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LOLIAmAnAlt posted...
EmDubyaSee posted...
MM is a better game than SMB3 anyway.

MM is the only Zelda I have ever put down without completing.


That's on you...,,
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darkrain108
05/08/17 1:24:25 AM
#6:


EmDubyaSee posted...
LukeInside posted...
That's ridiculous to be honest. These "contests" seem to work as always - by "which games I like the most" method, while it should be judged objectively. Some titles are well respected and recognised, even if you didn't play every one of them :) When I done this by myself it came out that the winner was 1991. I hope that's possible...



98 wins in a landslide.

MM is a better game than SMB3 anyway.

Fair, next.


Think it'll be close with 97
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LOLIAmAnAlt
05/08/17 1:29:23 AM
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EmDubyaSee posted...
LOLIAmAnAlt posted...
EmDubyaSee posted...
MM is a better game than SMB3 anyway.

MM is the only Zelda I have ever put down without completing.


That's on you...,,

Now your getting it!
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NFUN
05/08/17 1:29:33 AM
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In the words of one of the greatest artists of our time: Shake it off
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EmDubyaSee
05/08/17 1:31:05 AM
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darkrain108 posted...
EmDubyaSee posted...
LukeInside posted...
That's ridiculous to be honest. These "contests" seem to work as always - by "which games I like the most" method, while it should be judged objectively. Some titles are well respected and recognised, even if you didn't play every one of them :) When I done this by myself it came out that the winner was 1991. I hope that's possible...



98 wins in a landslide.

MM is a better game than SMB3 anyway.

Fair, next.


Think it'll be close with 97

I'd really like it if 97 or 95 gave it a run. But I really don't see it hapepning. Pretty sure 98 will just roll any and everything.
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Shaduln
05/08/17 1:32:24 AM
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In the words of one of the greatest artists of our time: Shake it off
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_SJimW_
05/08/17 1:42:27 AM
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LukeInside posted...
while it should be judged objectively.


there is no way to judge video game years objectively

also if everyone did that then everyone would vote the same
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LukeInside
05/08/17 1:48:42 AM
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ninkendo posted...
In the words of one of the greatest artists of our time: Shake it off


Taylor Swift = "one of the greatest artists of our time"? :D No wonder you don't know anything about games if you don't know anything about good music. Allow your game ratings to the public and I'll tell you who you are. You can shake it off yourself if you like it so much. Over and out...
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Bhaas1107
05/08/17 1:52:18 AM
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LukeInside posted...
ninkendo posted...
In the words of one of the greatest artists of our time: Shake it off


Taylor Swift = "one of the greatest artists of our time"? :D No wonder you don't know anything about games if you don't know anything about good music. Allow your game ratings to the public and I'll tell you who you are. You can shake it off yourself if you like it so much. Over and out...


It's the stupid whiners game. It coincides with the second you posted it at...
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LukeInside
05/08/17 1:54:53 AM
#14:


EmDubyaSee posted...


98 wins in a landslide.

MM is a better game than SMB3 anyway.

Fair, next.


Mmmkay...1990 had not only SMB3 but also first FF and a great RCR. As for the 2000's - as much as I love Diablo II and everything from Rare (Perfect Dark) I still think that it should lose. SMB3 did a lot for platformers and FF did a lot for jRPGs. That's why I think it was better as I decided to follow my brain than my heart.
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ZeldaTPLink
05/08/17 1:58:10 AM
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LukeInside posted...
EmDubyaSee posted...


98 wins in a landslide.

MM is a better game than SMB3 anyway.

Fair, next.


Mmmkay...1990 had not only SMB3 but also first FF and a great RCR. As for the 2000's - as much as I love Diablo II and everything from Rare (Perfect Dark) I still think that it should lost. SMB3 did a lot for platformers and FF did a lot for jRPG. That's why I think it was better as I decided to follow my brain than my heart.


If only you followed your brain when making the bracket too...
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LukeInside
05/08/17 1:58:19 AM
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Bhaas1107 posted...


It's the stupid whiners game. It coincides with the second you posted it at...


Nah dude. It was clear when those who love MM posted their toxic stuff. Cheers.
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XIII_rocks
05/08/17 1:58:57 AM
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Wow I didn't think we'd actually get topics like this for this contest
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LukeInside
05/08/17 2:00:03 AM
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ZeldaTPLink posted...


98 wins in a landslide.

MM is a better game than SMB3 anyway.

If only you followed your brain when making the bracket too...


Well, for now I have everything right apart from that. What's your score whimp? Your nick says everything sad and childish person :)
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_SecretSquirrel
05/08/17 2:00:22 AM
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Now, this is the perfect topic to use the whiner seconds game on.
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Bhaas1107
05/08/17 2:01:14 AM
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LukeInside posted...
ZeldaTPLink posted...


98 wins in a landslide.

MM is a better game than SMB3 anyway.

If only you followed your brain when making the bracket too...


Well, for now I have everything right apart from that. What's your score whimp? Your nick says everything sad and childish person :)



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xp1337
05/08/17 2:01:20 AM
#21:


I'm #2 on the leaderboard.

does that mean you all have to defer to me?

oh ya unlimited power
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VeryInsane
05/08/17 2:01:33 AM
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XIII_rocks posted...
Wow I didn't think we'd actually get topics like this for this contest


There are many people on the internet who would love to argue about literally anything
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Bhaas1107
05/08/17 2:02:09 AM
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xp1337 posted...
I'm #2 on the leaderboard.

does that mean you all have to defer to me?

oh ya unlimited power



Like a thousand of us are tied....
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LukeInside
05/08/17 2:09:24 AM
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VeryInsane posted...
XIII_rocks posted...
Wow I didn't think we'd actually get topics like this for this contest


There are many people on the internet who would love to argue about literally anything


There wasn't a slightest whining in my comment. I'm just ultimately surprised people voted for 2000's, while also "not surprised" at all that such "contests" go this way. I'm not from the US nor Canada so I can't win anything in this one anyway. Go figure dude. Would I care for absurd bragging points here? Problem is that people will always rate with their heart, not with their brain. It seems you can't even have an intelligent discussion with fanboys of certain game series. People and their childish idols, sheesh :)
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xp1337
05/08/17 2:11:00 AM
#25:


Objectively 2000 > 1990

it's just math
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LukeInside
05/08/17 2:14:10 AM
#26:


xp1337 posted...
Objectively 2000 > 1990

it's just math


Not if you consider how many SMB fanatics there are. Not many voted for Diablo II or Perfect Dark I guess. Mostly Zelda fanboys ranked up the score :)
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xp1337
05/08/17 2:14:55 AM
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No, I'm fairly certain that 2000 is a larger integer than 1990.

If we're comparing them objectively, that is.
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LukeInside
05/08/17 2:17:10 AM
#28:


xp1337 posted...
No, I'm fairly certain that 2000 is a larger integer than 1990.

If we're comparing them objectively, that is.

It depends actually. Only this topic alone shows how many Zelda series fanboys there are. Multiply it by a couple thousands.
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NFUN
05/08/17 2:29:48 AM
#29:


2000 - 1990 = 10 > 0
%u2234 2000 > 1990
QED

Why

Why do the triple "therefore" dots show up in the comment editor but not the fucking post? 1990 should've won; this site hasn't reached the year 2000 yet.
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LukeInside
05/08/17 2:39:04 AM
#30:


NFUN posted...
2000 - 1990 = 10 > 0
%u2234 2000 > 1990
QED

Why

Why do the triple "therefore" dots show up in the comment editor but not the fucking post? 1990 should've won; this site hasn't reached the year 2000 yet.


Well, I'm not saying that the 1990 "should have won". I'm just stating that it's ridiculous because most of the time people rate without thinking. I've literally spend some time on every single "battle" to actually THINK what year has done more FOR THE GAMING, as it's not called "rate your favourite year in gaming". I know it's supposed to be for fun but I thought that there will be some professionalism here and knowledge about gaming. I was wrong ;)
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TheMissingShoe
05/08/17 2:44:17 AM
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LukeInside posted...
I've literally spend some time on every single "battle" to actually THINK what year has done more FOR THE GAMING

I'm sorry to be the one to inform you but you voted wrong.
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FLOUR
05/08/17 2:44:36 AM
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Imagine voting for a crappy movie over a revered movie you've never seen. That's what this contest has become.

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NFUN
05/08/17 2:58:33 AM
#33:


LukeInside posted...
NFUN posted...
2000 - 1990 = 10 > 0
%u2234 2000 > 1990
QED

Why

Why do the triple "therefore" dots show up in the comment editor but not the fucking post? 1990 should've won; this site hasn't reached the year 2000 yet.


Well, I'm not saying that the 1990 "should have won". I'm just stating that it's ridiculous because most of the time people rate without thinking. I've literally spend some time on every single "battle" to actually THINK what year has done more FOR THE GAMING, as it's not called "rate your favourite year in gaming". I know it's supposed to be for fun but I thought that there will be some professionalism here and knowledge about gaming. I was wrong ;)

Ok this is getting old I'm going to ruin everybody's fun and point it out in the most simple of terms.

The post in question:
xp1337 posted...
Objectively 2000 > 1990

it's just math

2000, two thousand, the unitless number 2000, is being compared to 1990, one thousand nine hundred and ninety, not a year, a number. The number 2000 is a bigger number than 1990. If you count up from 1990, you will reach 2000, as 2000 is larger than 1990. 2000 is the greater quantity.

I will provide an example, because these are large numbers and this might be difficult to grasp.

3 is bigger than 2. You can count: 1, 2, 3. Notice that 3 is after 2? That is because 3 is a larger number than 2. If Tim has 3 apples, and Mike has 2, Tim has more apples. If you took away 2 apples from both of them, Mike wouldn't have any apples, but Tim would have 1. That's because Tim has more apples than Mike, because 3 is greater than 2.

Now here's the tricky part: ">"

This symbol means "greater than". It signifies that one number is greater than another. Like, in our example, 3 and 2. 3 is greater than 2, so 3 > 2. This applies to even very large numbers like 2000 and 1990. 2000 is bigger than 1990, so 2000 > 1990.

Now here's the really hard part. You can't objectively justify one year being more important than another. There are many different metrics, and the importance of each one is up to the participant. Nobody can comprehend the true impact or importance of everything, and judging the most well-regarded titles to be the best is the opposite of objective. It's a fool's errand, and if you believe that you are voting only for the objectively correct answer every time, you're an arrogant bastard and probably can't emphasize with somebody who may have a different opinion (yes, they're opinions) than you. Your lack of empathy is also noted in the fact you seem to be completely incapable of understanding that people are joking. Math is the only objective metric, and math says that 2000 > 1990.

Please reply if you have any questions.
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bryans7
05/08/17 3:29:16 AM
#34:


LukeInside posted...
ninkendo posted...
In the words of one of the greatest artists of our time: Shake it off


Taylor Swift = "one of the greatest artists of our time"? :D No wonder you don't know anything about games if you don't know anything about good music. Allow your game ratings to the public and I'll tell you who you are. You can shake it off yourself if you like it so much. Over and out...


Seems like you are seeing red my friend, really letting the sparks fly there. No reason for this sort of bad blood just because of a disagreement; personally that's not my style. Maybe when I was fifteen or 22, but this is just mean. Never in my wildest dreams did I think I'd see such blatant character attacks on gamefaqs.

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Steiner
05/08/17 4:28:16 AM
#35:


LukeInside posted...
by "which games I like the most" method, while it should be judged objectively


this is why there are votes and allen didn't just publish a bracket and the 'objective' results

majora's mask and final fantasy ix are objectively better than every game released in 1990 also
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Steiner
05/08/17 4:29:13 AM
#36:


LukeInside posted...
ninkendo posted...
In the words of one of the greatest artists of our time: Shake it off


Taylor Swift = "one of the greatest artists of our time"? :D No wonder you don't know anything about games if you don't know anything about good music. Allow your game ratings to the public and I'll tell you who you are. You can shake it off yourself if you like it so much. Over and out...


what a quality post
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SwiftyDC
05/08/17 4:47:32 AM
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Tay-Tay love
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JDPizza
05/08/17 5:49:47 AM
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Honestly guys, I think Bad Blood is better for this topic than Shake It Off. >_>
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ZeldaTPLink
05/08/17 5:50:56 AM
#39:


xp1337 posted...
I'm #2 on the leaderboard.

does that mean you all have to defer to me?

oh ya unlimited power


It means all your opinions are right unless the guy on 1st place disagrees with then.
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ZeldaTPLink
05/08/17 5:54:20 AM
#40:


Anyway, I was going to say MM is objectively better than SMB3, but I guess my opinion is worthless because I have a "sad" username.

I need to create an alt with a happier username, I see.
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EmDubyaSee
05/08/17 5:56:03 AM
#41:


Steiner posted...
LukeInside posted...
by "which games I like the most" method, while it should be judged objectively


this is why there are votes and allen didn't just publish a bracket and the 'objective' results

majora's mask and final fantasy ix are objectively better than every game released in 1990 also



This too.
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ChichiriMuyo
05/08/17 6:36:59 AM
#42:


ninkendo posted...
In the words of one of the greatest artists of our time: Shake it off


I'd shake her off after a double O, ;)

This result was a bit of an upset, though.
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ChichiriMuyo
05/08/17 6:39:14 AM
#43:


Steiner posted...
LukeInside posted...
by "which games I like the most" method, while it should be judged objectively


this is why there are votes and allen didn't just publish a bracket and the 'objective' results

majora's mask and final fantasy ix are objectively better than every game released in 1990 also


Not objectively. I really like those games, a lot, but not everyone thinks they's better. Or did I miss the first match where there were 0 votes for the losing side?
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ZeeksFire
05/08/17 6:42:00 AM
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I'm not suprised 1990 lost to 2000, after all, that was one of the best years for games for the worst advertised system out there, of which none of the games from it showed up on the important game list. Yes, I'm talking about the Dreamcast. Quantity and quality is what let 2000 beat 1990 (and the ps2 release didn't hurt either)
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Steiner
05/08/17 6:49:31 AM
#45:


ChichiriMuyo posted...
Steiner posted...
LukeInside posted...
by "which games I like the most" method, while it should be judged objectively


this is why there are votes and allen didn't just publish a bracket and the 'objective' results

majora's mask and final fantasy ix are objectively better than every game released in 1990 also


Not objectively. I really like those games, a lot, but not everyone thinks they's better. Or did I miss the first match where there were 0 votes for the losing side?


congratulations you spotted the point of my post.
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StealThisSheen
05/08/17 8:17:37 AM
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This topic was funny until I noticed names that I actually recognized complaining, too
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metroid composite
05/08/17 11:09:30 AM
#47:


LukeInside posted...
When I done this by myself it came out that the winner was 1991.

Wait, really? Why? If we're being strictly objective, SMB3 was considered a much better game than SMW at the time. (More levels, more worlds, more varied power ups, more balanced power ups, sticks closer to Mario iconography with goombas looking like they do in the rest of the series). Final Fantasy 4 is only really liked by people who are full of nostalgia for whom it was their first RPG. If you have people go back after both games came out, and play both FF4 and FF6, pretty much everyone agrees that FF6 is objectively the better game, for instance.

Like...the only way I can see trying to argue that 1991 is the best year on some kind of objective level would be pretty much entirely due to Street Fighter II. And I suppose you could make that argument.

But like...on an objective level even if you want to heavily weigh tournament fighters...let's see...what year did SSBM come out? 2001? Yeah, I'd take that over 1991. Both games with lasting tournament scenes, but SSBM is still standing the test of time, often gets the most viewers at EVO, and is actually currently growing as a tournament scene. Whereas SF2...occasionally gets a spot at EVO once every few years as a novelty.

Or like...what year did Starcraft Brood War come out? 1998? That game looks like it's about to outlive its sequel in terms of tournament longevity as everyone hops off SC2 and onto SC HD remake. People have stopped trying to make tournament RTS games because nobody thinks they can compete with Starcraft. Also birthed e-sports as we know it, saved a country's economy etc.
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Steiner
05/08/17 11:21:43 AM
#48:


uh, mc, did you just ignore the SNES, super mario world and sonic 1 all coming out in the same year? those three things in tandem are the reason for 1991's strength - possibly intangibles causing it to be stronger than the sum of its parts
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Zero_Maniac
05/08/17 11:22:15 AM
#49:


EmDubyaSee posted...
darkrain108 posted...
EmDubyaSee posted...
LukeInside posted...
That's ridiculous to be honest. These "contests" seem to work as always - by "which games I like the most" method, while it should be judged objectively. Some titles are well respected and recognised, even if you didn't play every one of them :) When I done this by myself it came out that the winner was 1991. I hope that's possible...



98 wins in a landslide.

MM is a better game than SMB3 anyway.

Fair, next.


Think it'll be close with 97

I'd really like it if 97 or 95 gave it a run. But I really don't see it hapepning. Pretty sure 98 will just roll any and everything.

97:

-Castlevania: Symphony of the Night
-Final Fantasy VII
-Mega Man X4 (the last good MMX game)
-Mario Kart 64
-Fallout
-Breath of Fire III
-Shadow Warrior
-Star Fox 64
-Age of Empires


98:

-Ocarina of Time
-Metal Gear Solid
-Half-Life
-Resident Evil 2
-Grim Fandango
-Fallout 2
-Xenogears
-Parasite Eve
-Baldur's Gate

It'll be close.
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VeryInsane
05/08/17 11:32:08 AM
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98 also has Pokemon Red/Blue so it won't lose
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