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this_is_wow_huh 05/06/17 2:58:07 PM #1: |
http://www.cbr.com/pepe-frog-creator-kills-white-supremacist-icon/
After fighting an uphill battle to reclaim the feel-good image of his popular character after it was perverted by a culture of hate, cartoonist Matt Furie laid to rest Pepe the Frog in Fantagraphics’ Free Comic Book Day offering, “World’s Greatest Cartoonists.” In a one-page strip, Pepe lies in an open casket while “Boy’s Club” friends Landwolf, Brett and Andy mourn him in their irreverent fashion. Furie debuted Pepe and the “Boy’s Club” characters on his MySpace blog in 2005 and published four issues of the crew’s adventures through Buenaventura Press, stories that were collected into a single volume by Fantagraphics in 2016. Pepe, as seen in “Boy’s Club,” is a mellow dude getting stoned with his friends, regularly engaging in gross-out humor. But more recently, Pepe has been adopted as an icon and mascot by the extreme conservative “alt-right” movement, and as memes showing the chill frog promoting white nationalist and anti-semitic messages graduated from 4chan and Reddit into the mainstream, the Anti-Defamation League last year designated Pepe a hate symbol. Furie and Fantagraphics denounced the “alt-right’s” use of Pepe. “It’s completely insane that Pepe has been labeled a symbol of hate,” he wrote in an essay for Time magazine. “It’s a nightmare, and the only thing I can do is see this as an opportunity to speak out against hate.” “Before Pepe the Frog was a meme designated a hate symbol by the Anti-Defamation League, he began his life as a blissfully stoned frog in my comic book ‘Boy’s Club,’ where he enjoyed a simple life of snacks, soda and pulling his pants all the way down to go pee,” Furie wrote in Time. As early Pepe memes elevated his popularity and Furie was entertaining multiple licensing deals, the cartoonist recalls thinking, “Memes rule!” “But that was before 2016, a time when our culture evolved to include Internet culture in this election (mostly to seek out the Millennial vote). A smug Trump-Pepe was shared by Trump himself on Twitter in the beginning of the election race, a move I assumed was a nod to young voters. Or perhaps it was a more sinister nod to some fringe, racist groups that used Pepe as a mascot for their agenda. Or just another famous person sharing a Pepe meme because it’s cool (like Katy Perry and Nicki Minaj did in the past). I have no idea.” Furie ended his essay by stating that “Pepe is love,” and soon responded with a new comic showing Pepe horrified at what he’s become. Now, it would seem, that day has come. The rehabilitation of Pepe was always going to be a struggle, and it’s hard to imagine Furie taking much joy in creating new Pepe strips knowing that, whatever his own intentions, the character would read through tinted lenses. While it’s unlikely Pepe’s official death will stop extremists from co-opting his image, this was, perhaps, the most effective way for Furie to reclaim his character; Pepe’s soul has returned to his creator. Rest in Peace. Pepe will continue to live in our hearts <3 --- this is still huh wow! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Ampelas 05/06/17 3:06:43 PM #2: |
/pol/ lost their only friend
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bluezero 05/06/17 3:10:05 PM #3: |
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SoraOwnsOctopus 05/06/17 3:11:11 PM #4: |
I only knew him as the "feels good man" frog >_>
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Nazanir 05/06/17 3:12:38 PM #5: |
People actually bought this white supremacist bullshit?
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TheoryzC 05/06/17 3:14:11 PM #6: |
Rest in Pepe
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Ampelas 05/06/17 3:14:36 PM #7: |
Nazanir posted...
People actually bought this white supremacist bullshit? Uh, the literal white supremacists from The_Donald and /pol/ co-opted him into a symbol for themselves. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LethalAffinity 05/06/17 3:15:05 PM #8: |
Nazanir posted...
People actually bought this white supremacist bullshit? It's hilarious that it's gotten to the point where the creator of Pepe has to kill him off in order to not associate himself as the purveyor of a "symbol of hate". A cartoon frog can have this much influence in 2017. Lmao. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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l33t_iRk3n_Rm33 05/06/17 3:15:23 PM #9: |
Nazanir posted...
People actually bought this white supremacist bullshit? It was a self-fulfilling prophecy. --- I cannot believe it! http://i.imgur.com/QiEb7.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SoraOwnsOctopus 05/06/17 3:16:06 PM #11: |
Is there an image of his funeral?
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LethalAffinity 05/06/17 3:16:46 PM #12: |
SoraOwnsOctopus posted...
Is there an image of his funeral? https://twitter.com/desertislandbk/status/860890357462163456 --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Tropicalwood 05/06/17 3:19:46 PM #13: |
Nazanir posted...
People actually bought this white supremacist bullshit? One of the 4chan boards had an op where they would associate rage comics with racism because hot topic was making shirts, they managed to convince the press that it was racist thus causing hot topic to pull the product. Basically people will buy anything they see in the headlines, in fact 60% of people don't read past the headlines much less look into the claims. --- ayy lmao ayy lmao || oaml oaml yya yya ayy lmao ayy lmao || oaml oaml yya yya ... Copied to Clipboard!
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COVxy 05/06/17 3:21:19 PM #14: |
*a sect of white supremacists appropriate pepe*
"Why would anyone think this meme is a symbol for racism?!?!?" The clearly feigned ignorance every single time this is brought up is just so transparent. --- =E[(x-E[x])(y-E[y])] ... Copied to Clipboard!
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gamepimp12 05/06/17 3:21:47 PM #15: |
Nazanir posted...
People actually bought this white supremacist bullshit? Richard spencer was wearing a pepe pin when he got punched Pepe himself might not be racist. But he was co-oped by racist --- we rich now but used to be slaves,we pushing whips now we used to be whipped,rockin chains when we used to be in 'em ... Copied to Clipboard!
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FightingGames 05/06/17 3:22:44 PM #16: |
pepe itself is a stock template for any response. You'll find pepe edits for liberal agendas as well
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MARKINGRAM22 05/06/17 3:24:02 PM #17: |
COVxy posted...
*a sect of white supremacists appropriate pepe* Just cause someone uses a meme literally everyone uses doesn't make it a white supremacist symbol. It is just fear mongering and using it as another excuse to yell nazi at more people. White supremacist watch tv, guess we shouldn't watch it since it is entertainment for white supremacist. --- "That man practices Islam. Are you happy he was taken out since according to you he believes what terrorists do?" -VipaGTS to me ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MARKINGRAM22 05/06/17 3:24:57 PM #18: |
gamepimp12 posted...
Nazanir posted...People actually bought this white supremacist bullshit? He was co-opted by everyone. Why are you giving white nationalists ownership? --- "That man practices Islam. Are you happy he was taken out since according to you he believes what terrorists do?" -VipaGTS to me ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ultimate reaver 05/06/17 3:26:54 PM #19: |
MARKINGRAM22 posted...
COVxy posted...*a sect of white supremacists appropriate pepe* Stop being intellectually dishonest. I remember during election time twitter was full of fifty bazillion people with stupid pepe meme avatars screeching alt right junk at any given time. I don't blame the creator for feeling uncomfortable with a bunch of idiots taking it and running with it. I wouldn't want to be associated with it either at this point. --- butts ... Copied to Clipboard!
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gamepimp12 05/06/17 3:28:39 PM #20: |
MARKINGRAM22 posted...
gamepimp12 posted...Nazanir posted...People actually bought this white supremacist bullshit? He was co-opted by many different people for many different reasons. Then a large amount of people co-opted him for a single reason and the meaning of Pepe changed. Don't know what's hard to understand about that, no one gave them ownership, they took it. --- we rich now but used to be slaves,we pushing whips now we used to be whipped,rockin chains when we used to be in 'em ... Copied to Clipboard!
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COVxy 05/06/17 3:32:11 PM #21: |
MARKINGRAM22 posted...
COVxy posted...*a sect of white supremacists appropriate pepe* You might have a point if it weren't preferentially adopted by a certain group at a rate much higher than any normal group of people. Feigning ignorance just makes you seem like you're trying to create some form of "plausible deniability". Better to just admit that it was indeed co-opted by a hate group. --- =E[(x-E[x])(y-E[y])] ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Hicks233 05/06/17 3:32:30 PM #22: |
So what are the ADL going to get butt hurt over next?
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Solar_Crimson 05/06/17 3:34:23 PM #24: |
gamepimp12 posted...
Pepe himself might not be racist. But he was co-oped by racist --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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gamepimp12 05/06/17 3:35:28 PM #25: |
DuranOfForcena posted...
gamepimp12 posted...and the meaning of Pepe changed. If the meaning of Pepe didn't change he wouldn't of been classified as a hate symbol. --- we rich now but used to be slaves,we pushing whips now we used to be whipped,rockin chains when we used to be in 'em ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LethalAffinity 05/06/17 3:37:00 PM #26: |
All this really does is create martyr memes.
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gamepimp12 05/06/17 3:40:31 PM #27: |
LethalAffinity posted...
All this really does is create martyr memes. It's also conceding Pepe to the alt right so that's all he stands for now. --- we rich now but used to be slaves,we pushing whips now we used to be whipped,rockin chains when we used to be in 'em ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MARKINGRAM22 05/06/17 3:45:04 PM #28: |
COVxy posted...
MARKINGRAM22 posted...COVxy posted...*a sect of white supremacists appropriate pepe* Maybe I'm taking this different than you said it, but are trying to suggest I'm a white nationalist lol? The meme was already insanely popular long before white nationalists use it so maybe your the one feigning ignorance. --- "That man practices Islam. Are you happy he was taken out since according to you he believes what terrorists do?" -VipaGTS to me ... Copied to Clipboard!
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COVxy 05/06/17 3:48:47 PM #30: |
No, I was suggesting that actively denying something obvious gives wind of motivated reasoning, which makes you look bad when the topic is about appropriation by white supremacists.
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UnholyMudcrab 05/06/17 3:53:08 PM #31: |
gamepimp12 posted...
Pepe himself might not be racist. But he was co-oped by racist More or less my thoughts. I can't see Pepe and not immediately associate him with the alt-right. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Damn_Underscore 05/06/17 4:06:18 PM #33: |
The group that said it is a white supremacist symbol literally said "it is a white supremacist symbol only when it is being used as one"
Then fake news sources just all-out called it a white supremacist symbol. --- Shenmue II = best game of all time Shenmue = 2nd best game of all time ... Copied to Clipboard!
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The Great Muta 22 05/06/17 4:07:38 PM #34: |
I still don't understand why people ever liked the stupid thing
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psvitantifail 05/06/17 4:08:48 PM #35: |
Damn it chan 4
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Ivynn 05/06/17 4:12:59 PM #36: |
The Great Muta 22 posted...
I still don't understand why people ever liked the stupid thing --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Roxborough4Ever 05/06/17 4:15:08 PM #37: |
imagine thinking you could kill an idea
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Capn Circus 05/06/17 4:25:56 PM #38: |
This is Trump's frog now!
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bob742omb 05/06/17 4:27:13 PM #39: |
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kingdrake2 05/06/17 4:29:11 PM #40: |
i heard doing the "ok" sign in certain country's pisses people off, looks like brazil (antagonizes them like the chihuahua dog when given the finger).
RIP pepe he is hilarious. --- There's just a level of difference between people, and it translates into some pizzas: DifferentialEquation ... Copied to Clipboard!
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PostCrisisJ2 05/06/17 5:32:28 PM #41: |
If it makes people feel better, it seems like Pepe was the only thing that was successfully co-opted by /pol/. And really that was only because of the Clinton campaign. Things like Trash Doves and the OK symbol haven't really permeated outside the, uh, circle.
They're going to keep trying the co-opting thing because they really have nothing else to do and eventually grow bored of it when they'll never reach the same level of success they did with Pepe. --- spritual powah will never die Don't be shy to drop a PM to me, I'm always open for conversation. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Silver_Reaper 05/06/17 5:35:13 PM #42: |
This is so dumb.
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Axiom 05/06/17 5:35:48 PM #43: |
Neo nazis ruin everything they touch
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MARKINGRAM22 05/06/17 5:39:02 PM #44: |
COVxy posted...
No, I was suggesting that actively denying something obvious gives wind of motivated reasoning, which makes you look bad when the topic is about appropriation by white supremacists. I'm not denying anything though. I'm saying it is ridiculous to say it is some white nationalists symbol when everyone uses it. It is the same as saying nikes are gang related or you shouldn't own an ak cause terrorists are known for using it. --- "That man practices Islam. Are you happy he was taken out since according to you he believes what terrorists do?" -VipaGTS to me ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Hash-Brown 05/06/17 5:45:15 PM #45: |
Nazanir posted...
People actually bought this white supremacist bullshit? Liberals will buy anything as long as you tell them they are a victim. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Ampelas 05/06/17 5:46:50 PM #46: |
Capn Circus posted...
This is Trump's frog now! No. THIS is Trump's frog http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-4478286/Artist-paints-frogs-Donald-Trump-s-chin.html You can't unsee the frog on his chin ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Vyrulisse 05/06/17 5:47:08 PM #47: |
PostCrisisJ2 posted...
If it makes people feel better, it seems like Pepe was the only thing that was successfully co-opted by /pol/. And really that was only because of the Clinton campaign. Things like Trash Doves and the OK symbol haven't really permeated outside the, uh, circle. It wasn't co-opted by them, they jumped on the bandwagon. Pepe was a perpetual meme for literally everything before they began using it. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Hash-Brown 05/06/17 5:51:49 PM #48: |
PostCrisisJ2 posted...
Things like Trash Doves and the OK symbol haven't really permeated outside the, uh, circle. The OK thing was made up just to fuck with liberals. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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gamepimp12 05/06/17 5:54:27 PM #49: |
MARKINGRAM22 posted...
COVxy posted...No, I was suggesting that actively denying something obvious gives wind of motivated reasoning, which makes you look bad when the topic is about appropriation by white supremacists. If Pepe means a million different things to a million different people But also means 1 thing to 500000 people The second is its first meaning. --- we rich now but used to be slaves,we pushing whips now we used to be whipped,rockin chains when we used to be in 'em ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Monday 05/06/17 5:56:09 PM #50: |
If you say a lie enough times, it can become the truth. God Bless America.
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TaiIs82 05/06/17 5:58:13 PM #51: |
Pepe "died" the moment Hillary gave her big speech against conservatives on the internet. A whole speech against Pepe! Total Streisand Effect, and it was pretty funny. The smartest, most experienced candidate in the world couldn't handle an internet meme. She was so petty and the whole thing sounded like "I'm scaaaared of this newfangled 'internet' thing!"
For those who complain that the right "ruined" Pepe, well, now you guys know what it's like after the hundreds of times Hollywood said "Make Ghostbusters with Vaginas!" and "Make James Bond a black bisexual transvestite. That's totally faithful to his character!" --- Hero/Legend of 261. Lover of life,free speech,etc. http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/1196- The man who cared too much. Providing trickle-down knowledge since 2009 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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