Current Events > 4 White Kids SUE their School for SUSPENDING them after LIKING a RACIST Pic!!

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mrduckbear
05/05/17 10:36:40 PM
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Do you think these brats were rightfully suspended?


4 White Students in California are SUING their School District after they were Suspended for LIKING and COMMENTING a racist instagram picture of one of their peers and said it violates their students' free speech rights!!

They accused the Albany Unified School District for unjustly suspending them because the offensive posts they made were on a PRIVATE ACCOUNT that had no connection with any school activity or school account.

The posts were found on another suspended student's account that included NOOSES drawn around the necks of a black student AND their school coach.

Alan Beck, their attorney said "This to me is no different than having a private drawing book and making some offensive drawings at home and sharing them with a couple of friends. Does the school have the right to ruin my life over something i was doing at my house"

Legal experts said the Trump administration will be dragged into this as their lawsuit will present federal courts with another opportunity to decide how schools and regulate student free speech

It raises the question on whether "likes" on social media are treated as original osts as likes can be ambiguous which could be saying "This is funny, i agree with it. Or i don't agree with it but i want to stand up for your right to say it" said Eugene Volkh who teaches free speech.

That specific picture they were bumped out of school for was because it also included a picture of a black student at their school next to an Ape and jokes about their weight and looks.

Albany is an affluent community next to Berkeley which prides itself in liberalism and Political Correctness

Valerie Williams, the superintendent said they pride themselves in being an inclusive and respectful environment as they will take appropriate action

The original student who posted that image to his friends is also facing EXPULSION as his name is not being released

Students said that account was targeting "only black people" as the suspended students were outed by peers and were "publicly shamed" where they were cursed and jeered at.

A protest quickly formed after the incident was revealed back in late march where students and the community were outraged over the posts

The 4 want unspecified damages and a court order to remove their suspensions as one of them said it was their RIGHT to say whatever he wanted out of school time..

Do you think these 4 brats were rightfully suspended?

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http://i.dailymail.co.uk/1/2017/05/05/09/wire-517127-1493972574-962_634x443.jpg
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DarkChozoGhost
05/05/17 10:59:02 PM
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They're pieces of shit but the school doesn't have grounds to suspend them over that.
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Psycho_Poodle
05/05/17 11:00:20 PM
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dont be an idiot with social media
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Sativa_Rose
05/05/17 11:03:45 PM
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It's pretty stupid how schools think it's perfectly fine for them to invade every last nook and cranny of their students' personal lives just because they are students at a school.
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jenningsnash313
05/05/17 11:03:52 PM
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Yeah, I don't know if the school should suspend them for that. They're idiots, but I don't think a like warrants a suspension.

The kid that made the drawing? Absolutely should be suspended, at LEAST. Though I'd almost consider kicking the kid out, it's not fair to make the victim have to live with that guy around. But a like is too ambiguous, I've liked photos without even really looking at them. Are they stupid and need some minor punishment/talking to? Absolutely. but suspension is too much.
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Akagami_Shanks
05/05/17 11:04:12 PM
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if people can lose their jobs, then they can be kicked out of school. Good riddance
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Sativa_Rose
05/05/17 11:04:48 PM
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Akagami_Shanks posted...
if people can lose their jobs, then they can be kicked out of school. Good riddance


I don't like this comparison because you're forced to go to school by the government. Unless you're drafted into the military or at jury duty, the government never actually forces you to go work somewhere.
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3rd_Best_Master
05/05/17 11:04:53 PM
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DarkChozoGhost posted...
They're pieces of shit but the school doesn't have grounds to suspend them over that.

Why don't they? The school has an authority to act in case a student is caught making threatening gestures or writing harmful material against another student. What's the difference between that and liking a post that shows a student with a noose around his neck? It's also a threatening image towards another student,why should the school steer clear when his safety is being threatened?
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Borgnar
05/05/17 11:06:21 PM
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damn obama, he made it way too hard to be racist in america

thanks obama
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Borgnar
05/05/17 11:07:11 PM
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Sativa_Rose posted...
Akagami_Shanks posted...
if people can lose their jobs, then they can be kicked out of school. Good riddance


I don't like this comparison because you're forced to go to school by the government. Unless you're drafted into the military or at jury duty, the government never actually forces you to go work somewhere.

you're forced to behave at school
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Sativa_Rose
05/05/17 11:07:36 PM
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Borgnar posted...
Sativa_Rose posted...
Akagami_Shanks posted...
if people can lose their jobs, then they can be kicked out of school. Good riddance


I don't like this comparison because you're forced to go to school by the government. Unless you're drafted into the military or at jury duty, the government never actually forces you to go work somewhere.

you're forced to behave at school


You must have missed the part where this didn't happen at school
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3rd_Best_Master
05/05/17 11:08:38 PM
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Sativa_Rose posted...
Borgnar posted...
Sativa_Rose posted...
Akagami_Shanks posted...
if people can lose their jobs, then they can be kicked out of school. Good riddance


I don't like this comparison because you're forced to go to school by the government. Unless you're drafted into the military or at jury duty, the government never actually forces you to go work somewhere.

you're forced to behave at school


You must have missed the part where this didn't happen at school

Since when are schools forced to condone threats made against other students?
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Borgnar
05/05/17 11:08:41 PM
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So? Just because you're forced to go to school doesn't mean you get to act any kind of way.
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Akagami_Shanks
05/05/17 11:11:47 PM
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Sativa_Rose posted...
Akagami_Shanks posted...
if people can lose their jobs, then they can be kicked out of school. Good riddance


I don't like this comparison because you're forced to go to school by the government. Unless you're drafted into the military or at jury duty, the government never actually forces you to go work somewhere.

you're not forced to go to school just like you're not forced to go to work. you can go and drop right out of school whenever you want as(legally at 16), just like you can stop working and die in a hole somewhere because you can't afford anything. If they're old enough to do stupid shit like this then they're old enough to know the consequences
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Sputnik1337
05/05/17 11:14:49 PM
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mrduckbear posted...
The posts were found on another suspended student's account that included NOOSES drawn around the necks of a black student AND their school coach.

Fair, next.
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Ving_Rhames
05/05/17 11:17:53 PM
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Fair, next. It was directed at a student in their school, they had every right to be suspended for it. Anyone who thinks otherwise is either stupid or racist.
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blablablax17
05/05/17 11:20:12 PM
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Why do people forget that minors basically have no rights?
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Sativa_Rose
05/05/17 11:20:48 PM
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blablablax17 posted...
Why do people forget that minors basically have no rights?


it's just dumb that they don't
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DarkChozoGhost
05/05/17 11:21:18 PM
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I didn't read the whole thing, yeah they're completely justified. It was a threat about another student and faculty.
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Blue_Inigo
05/05/17 11:21:39 PM
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Sputnik1337 posted...
mrduckbear posted...
The posts were found on another suspended student's account that included NOOSES drawn around the necks of a black student AND their school coach.

Fair, next.

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Trigg3rH4ppy
05/05/17 11:22:24 PM
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People saying that it's fair are responding with emotion instead of logic. They're pieces of shit but they absolutely don't have the right to suspend them for liking the image. The kid who created the image can be punished because that would be considered a threat, and depending what the comments said could also be grounds for punishment. If a student only 'liked' an image though they're going to win that case.
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Freddie_Mercury
05/05/17 11:25:45 PM
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why can't they be tolerant of my intolerance
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Borgnar
05/05/17 11:26:46 PM
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why can't they suspend them for liking it?

its akin to them screaming "i agree that black people are slaves"

they put their business out where everyone can see it
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darkbuster
05/06/17 12:16:18 AM
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I personally don't feel as if the school has the right to weigh in on their personal lives, but then again, the nature of the internet really blurs the line of what's personal & what's public. Though really, we all know that children don't possess any rights socially, beyond protections from abuse; it's why we can impose so many restrictions on their actions that would never fly against most other social demographics.
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RussianLegSweep
05/06/17 1:04:28 AM
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This is just using technology as an excuse. A private online account doesn't exist in its own little space in the world. They could've been on their smart phones in class liking the picture. They could've been in class or in the hall with the kid they targeted cracking up about an image of him being murdered.

Aside from that, and more importantly, the effects of what they did carry over into the school and can cause problems there. Imagine you go to school and see a kid who liked a picture of someone making threatening and racist images about you. That "like" is no longer just in cyber space. It's an expression of real world thoughts and feelings of a person passing you in the hall, sitting behind you in class, etc. I think of it as less about punishing the racist pieces of shit and more about standing up for and protecting the targeted kid, letting him know they have his safety in mind, keeping him safe from people who, regardless of the medium, condoned an image of him being killed.

One more key point, this more than likely did not start off of school grounds and is an extension of bullying or turmoil that started at the campus further giving them a right to punish them.
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Axiom
05/06/17 1:07:27 AM
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mrduckbear posted...
They accused the Albany Unified School District for unjustly suspending them because the offensive posts they made were on a PRIVATE ACCOUNT that had no connection with any school activity or school account.

I tried saying this after getting in trouble for a fight that was off campus and had nothing to do with school. It didn't work >_>

Also fair next considering it involved nooses around students and teachers
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MixedRaceBaby
05/06/17 1:10:09 AM
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hold on

DUCKBEAR?!
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Phantom_Nook
05/06/17 1:33:01 AM
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Sputnik1337 posted...
mrduckbear posted...
The posts were found on another suspended student's account that included NOOSES drawn around the necks of a black student AND their school coach.

Fair, next.

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kuwab0
05/06/17 2:03:16 AM
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Hadoken92
05/06/17 2:17:17 AM
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So those kids were free to go?
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