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Will446
05/02/17 7:13:39 PM
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When no one liked her Netflix show she complained and got her way and with Dear White People coming out I doubt it will be changed but is any one hear any news ?
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this_is_wow_huh
05/02/17 7:15:01 PM
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My rating system is still the star system....
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Lightsasori
05/02/17 7:16:21 PM
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No, Netflix was already having plans in changing the rating system for awhile now. Just like how Youtube changed theirs from star ratings to thumbs up and down. It's a proven fact that more people rate things using the thumbs up/down system rather than the star rating. Also with the star ratings, most people tend to vote in extremes anyways. Now the real question is, is the thumbs up/down rating system better than the star rating system? That I can't really answer.
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Raikuro
05/02/17 7:19:39 PM
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It's a reaction to their Adam Sandler deal that started years ago
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ZCheveyo
05/02/17 7:23:06 PM
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Lightsasori posted...
It's a proven fact that more people rate things using the thumbs up/down system rather than the star rating

I don't use Netflix that often, but my wife said that on Orange is the New Black she only had a thumbs up option, there was no thumbs down....?
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Sojy
05/02/17 7:25:55 PM
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Lightsasori posted...
No, Netflix was already having plans in changing the rating system for awhile now. Just like how Youtube changed theirs from star ratings to thumbs up and down. It's a proven fact that more people rate things using the thumbs up/down system rather than the star rating. Also with the star ratings, most people tend to vote in extremes anyways. Now the real question is, is the thumbs up/down rating system better than the star rating system? That I can't really answer.

They don't even directly show you the thumbs up/thumbs down ratio though.
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Axiom
05/02/17 7:26:20 PM
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Who even gives a fuck about streaming services rating system. I've been using them for years and not once have I bothered with it or let it influence what I watch
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Ararararagi
05/02/17 7:26:48 PM
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Asherlee10 posted...

This.

The new Netflix rating system was already in beta test before Schumer's special went live.

I believe a good portion of the people that say Schumer was the reason know this. But the internet has to stick to that anti-Schumer narrative.
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Borgnar
05/02/17 7:27:57 PM
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never knew people cared about ratings
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Ararararagi
05/02/17 7:28:26 PM
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Axiom posted...
Who even gives a f*** about streaming services rating system. I've been using them for years and not once have I bothered with it or let it influence what I watch

I'm sure the peeps at Netflix HQ have hard data on how often (some) people go from one show to the next based on the rating or recommendation.
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ZCheveyo
05/02/17 7:28:37 PM
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That's definitely not normal

Hmm, I'll tell her to check a different show.
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Sojy
05/02/17 7:28:57 PM
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Ararararagi posted...
Asherlee10 posted...

This.

The new Netflix rating system was already in beta test before Schumer's special went live.

I believe a good portion of the people that say Schumer was the reason know this. But the internet has to stick to that anti-Schumer narrative.

Or it doesn't matter if it was in beta test or not. All sorts of features that are in a site's beta test never get added to the main site. Look at all the beta test features in Gmail that have been there for years but never implemented.

What matters is how long the thumbs were in beta test. If it was recently, okay. If it was in beta for ages but ONLY added right after Schumer's special was slaughtered, that's a bit coincidental.
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voldothegr8
05/02/17 7:29:45 PM
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She wasn't the reason, but that incident was the catalyst that sped up the rollout.
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Sojy
05/02/17 7:32:47 PM
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Asherlee10 posted...
Ararararagi posted...
But the internet has to stick to that anti-Schumer narrative.


I'm sure it will die down, I'm sure.

Not really as the optics are bad and we're stuck with this bad Netflix change apparently forever.

The thumbs system is objectively worse than the stars system at the moment. The percentages seen on shows don't directly represent the thumbs ratings and instead incorporate your viewing history as well. They're matching shows to people by genre when what people actually want to see is whether or not people gave the show a good rating.
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Lightsasori
05/02/17 7:34:05 PM
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Raikuro posted...
It's a reaction to their Adam Sandler deal that started years ago


I remember reading an article about this.

Sojy posted...
They don't even directly show you the thumbs up/thumbs down ratio though.


Which does seem suspect I'll admit.
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Anarchy_Juiblex
05/02/17 7:35:15 PM
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The system is useless for me now.
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YellowSUV
05/02/17 7:35:42 PM
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I'm pretty sure this change is happening because Netflix thinks it will somehow make them more money, not because some people whined about the rating of some show.
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Will446
05/02/17 8:20:53 PM
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Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
The system is useless for me now.



Same here
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voldothegr8
05/02/17 8:29:08 PM
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Asherlee10 posted...
voldothegr8 posted...
She wasn't the reason, but that incident was the catalyst that sped up the rollout.


Mind sharing a source? I haven't seen that.

Do you really think it's coincidence they announced the quick rollout a day after the incident when there was no news recently prior except spinets about how they were beta testing?
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pegusus123456
05/03/17 8:47:24 AM
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Sojy posted...

The thumbs system is objectively worse than the stars system at the moment. The percentages seen on shows don't directly represent the thumbs ratings and instead incorporate your viewing history as well. They're matching shows to people by genre when what people actually want to see is whether or not people gave the show a good rating.

You know the stars did that too, right?
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DEKMStephens
05/03/17 8:53:20 AM
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Yeah it's pretty irritating. It is hard to separate the good from the mediocre within a genre when Netflix recommends me shows now.
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Will446
05/03/17 12:48:40 PM
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DEKMStephens posted...
Yeah it's pretty irritating. It is hard to separate the good from the mediocre within a genre when Netflix recommends me shows now.



That's why they need to change it back but I know the Dear White People 1 star would get them being called a racist
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Ammonitida
05/03/17 1:34:45 PM
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I can no longer tell if the movies are highly rated or not.
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youngfossil
05/03/17 1:38:51 PM
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Asherlee10 posted...
Will446 posted...
DEKMStephens posted...
Yeah it's pretty irritating. It is hard to separate the good from the mediocre within a genre when Netflix recommends me shows now.



That's why they need to change it back but I know the Dear White People 1 star would get them being called a racist


You know the star rating wasn't universal, right? It was based on what Netflix thought you might like.



Hmmm maybe, but after the thumbs system came out they recommended me the new Adam Sandler movie with a 96% match and I always rate his movies one star and never once watch one. Also they have been making it harder and harder to read users reviews.
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nclrwntr
05/03/17 1:40:28 PM
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Sojy posted...
Lightsasori posted...
No, Netflix was already having plans in changing the rating system for awhile now. Just like how Youtube changed theirs from star ratings to thumbs up and down. It's a proven fact that more people rate things using the thumbs up/down system rather than the star rating. Also with the star ratings, most people tend to vote in extremes anyways. Now the real question is, is the thumbs up/down rating system better than the star rating system? That I can't really answer.

They don't even directly show you the thumbs up/thumbs down ratio though.


There's no point in showing the ratio because the ratings you see now and what you saw before were based on what Netflix thought you'd rate it. Even with the star system, it wasn't an amalgamation of all Netflix user ratings. It was what Netflix and other people with similar tastes as you would give for a rating. Now it's like-minded people's and your rating/viewing history determining a 0-100 percentage likelihood of how much you'd like/dislike it.
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youngfossil
05/03/17 1:49:03 PM
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Asherlee10 posted...
youngfossil posted...
Asherlee10 posted...
Will446 posted...
DEKMStephens posted...
Yeah it's pretty irritating. It is hard to separate the good from the mediocre within a genre when Netflix recommends me shows now.



That's why they need to change it back but I know the Dear White People 1 star would get them being called a racist


You know the star rating wasn't universal, right? It was based on what Netflix thought you might like.



Hmmm maybe, but after the thumbs system came out they recommended me the new Adam Sandler movie with a 96% match and I always rate his movies one star and never once watch one. Also they have been making it harder and harder to read users reviews.


The rating system is not (and never was) 100% based on your individual ratings of content. It is an algorithm that includes other people. If people with your same taste have been rating Adam Sandler movies at a higher rate, the algorithm suggests that you would probably like it, too. It can be hard to cover outliers.

For example, Netflix would probably push Game of Thrones really hard on me, if it was available and rate it 5 stars/98% match. I love medieval era movies, I like political dramas, fantasy, and action films. I makes perfect sense that I would love GoT. Turns out, I couldn't get in to it.



??? I wasnt disagreeing with you. I was saying this new system seems to want to push the shit they paid for and lost money on. Your GoT analogy doesn't really apply here. I rated ALL SANDLER MOVIES 1 STAR. There was no indication that I would like it, Hell even before the thumb system his movies were like 2 stars on my netflix. Now its 96%? Get the fuck outta here(not you netflix).
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Ammonitida
05/03/17 1:51:46 PM
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Asherlee10 posted...
Ammonitida posted...
I can no longer tell if the movies are highly rated or not.


I don't understand. The star rating system was not pulled from a source like Rotten Tomatoes or IMDB. It was an estimation of what Netflix thought you would rate it based on your history.


Holy fuck, I did not know that.
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youngfossil
05/03/17 2:01:10 PM
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Asherlee10 posted...
youngfossil posted...
Asherlee10 posted...
youngfossil posted...
Asherlee10 posted...
Will446 posted...
DEKMStephens posted...
Yeah it's pretty irritating. It is hard to separate the good from the mediocre within a genre when Netflix recommends me shows now.



That's why they need to change it back but I know the Dear White People 1 star would get them being called a racist


You know the star rating wasn't universal, right? It was based on what Netflix thought you might like.



Hmmm maybe, but after the thumbs system came out they recommended me the new Adam Sandler movie with a 96% match and I always rate his movies one star and never once watch one. Also they have been making it harder and harder to read users reviews.


The rating system is not (and never was) 100% based on your individual ratings of content. It is an algorithm that includes other people. If people with your same taste have been rating Adam Sandler movies at a higher rate, the algorithm suggests that you would probably like it, too. It can be hard to cover outliers.

For example, Netflix would probably push Game of Thrones really hard on me, if it was available and rate it 5 stars/98% match. I love medieval era movies, I like political dramas, fantasy, and action films. I makes perfect sense that I would love GoT. Turns out, I couldn't get in to it.



??? I wasnt disagreeing with you. I was saying this new system seems to want to push the shit they paid for and lost money on. Your GoT analogy doesn't really apply here. I rated ALL SANDLER MOVIES 1 STAR. There was no indication that I would like it, Hell even before the thumb system his movies were like 2 stars on my netflix. Now its 96%? Get the fuck outta here(not you netflix).


I didn't say you were disagreeing with me. I corrected your perception that you shouldn't be seeing highly matched Adam Sandler movies because you never rate them high.

What you are not understanding is that the rating system you see is not based 100% on your ratings alone. It is an algorithm based on people with your similar tastes. Please re-read what I wrote. Also read @nclrwntr post above, he/she is stating the same thing.

I know its not based on my rating alone, hence why I added Hell even before the thumb system his movies were like 2 stars on my netflix
All of a sudden in one day the rating of all like minded people went from 20% to 96%? If the thumb system came and went and the suggestions on my netflix were the same or similar it wouldnt be that big of a deal. But now it seem they are suggesting things that no one likes (low rating on IMBD AND RT) with 90% plus on my netflix. I'm not going all conspiracy theory here. Just making a frustrating observation.
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parkman32
05/03/17 2:01:40 PM
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Who even rates things on Netflix anyway? I don't watch things on Netflix because of their ratings, I watch them because I either have a personal interest, or hear they're good from other places/people.
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youngfossil
05/03/17 2:02:37 PM
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parkman32 posted...
Who even rates things on Netflix anyway? I don't watch things on Netflix because of their ratings, I watch them because I either have a personal interest, or hear they're good from other places/people.

Well if you rate thing netflix will try and suggest stuff you may have never heard of or seen that you will like. I ran across multiple movies and shows this way.
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youngfossil
05/03/17 2:07:38 PM
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Asherlee10 posted...
youngfossil posted...
I know its not based on my rating alone, hence why I added Hell even before the thumb system his movies were like 2 stars on my netflix
All of a sudden in one day the rating of all like minded people went from 20% to 96%? If the thumb system came and went and the suggestions on my netflix were the same or similar it wouldnt be that big of a deal. But now it seem they are suggesting things that no one likes (low rating on IMBD AND RT) with 90% plus on my netflix. I'm not going all conspiracy theory here. Just making a frustrating observation.


You didn't convey that you understand the concept. When I explained it the first time, you said, "Hmm maybe."

This sentence: "Hmmm maybe, but after the thumbs system came out they recommended me the new Adam Sandler movie with a 96% match and I always rate his movies one star and never once watch one." does not suggest you understand. There is no need to be so defense about it. I am just explaining how the system works. Cool your jets.

I'm not mad at you sorry if came off that way. I just REALLY hate Adam Sandler and I dont like that they are trying to suggest that I would even want to see a trailer of his trash.
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